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Mr.Bottomtooth
09-10-2006, 08:56 AM
September 10, 2006 -- Ron Artest continued his assault on USA Basketball last night, saying sneaker companies have too much of a say in who competed at the World Championships last month in Japan. Still smarting after not even getting a tryout for the squad, Artest also blamed politics for his being snubbed.

"They didn't even give me a chance to represent them," Artest said before last night's All-Star Classic for Wheelchair Charities at the Garden. "I was one of like 10 players in the league that came out and said I want to play, and they didn't even give me a chance to play."

While Artest has made it a mission to help Wheelchair Charities, an organization that provides specialized beds, wheelchairs and transportation for those in need, Knicks guard Stephon Marbury was a no-show at last night's annual fundraiser. Originally scheduled to appear, Marbury blew off the game so he could continue his sneaker-selling tour instead.

boutons_
09-10-2006, 09:37 AM
Psycho, you "represented" the USA once already in Nov 04, to world-wide amazement and scorn.

ChumpDumper
09-10-2006, 12:15 PM
Artest Mad
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041120/041120_ron_artest_hmed6p.h2.jpg

Mr.Bottomtooth
09-10-2006, 12:29 PM
:lol

Fillmoe
09-10-2006, 12:43 PM
if artest was on the team, we would probably have won gold!

Mr.Bottomtooth
09-10-2006, 12:49 PM
Then Nikos Zisis would be suing him instead of Varejao! :lol

Fillmoe
09-10-2006, 12:49 PM
Then Nikos Zisis would be suing him instead of Varejao! :lol


:lol :lol

ChumpDumper
09-10-2006, 12:54 PM
Artest has "international incident" written all over him. Why are he and his apologists so oblivious to the fact he blacklisted himself?

freedom&justice
09-10-2006, 01:17 PM
Artest sure does crave attention and controversy. He is such a whiny little wanna-be tough guy.

Bob Lanier
09-10-2006, 02:29 PM
He's also the best 3 in the NBA. If he kills an opponent, so what? You can put His Holiness LeBron into the game. You'll lose all the perimeter defense from that position, but you won't lose any offense and will even pick up some rebounding. It's worth the risk.

TheSanityAnnex
09-10-2006, 02:37 PM
Since when is the teams appearance more important than their performance?

Artest and Bowen would have helped that team tremendously. Bowen at least got a shot. People are getting caught up in politics. I don't give a fuck what our USA team "looks" like, I want to win.

ChumpDumper
09-10-2006, 02:50 PM
Since when is the teams appearance more important than their performance?
Since Artest went into the stands to beat up fans.

gus
09-10-2006, 03:08 PM
if artest was on the team, we would probably have won gold!

I have no doubt of this.

With artest youŽd have two options:

Gold or an International Incident.

Even though he is a Hannibal Lecter Pycho personality he can play.

I wouldn`t say the same of many USA Basket players (Including Lebronze)

Gus

ChumpDumper
09-10-2006, 03:10 PM
If they had Bowen instead of Miller they probably wold've won.

If they had Kobe they would've won.

If they had Marion they would've won.

If they had a coach who knew the names of opposing players they would've won.

If they had a coach that didn't rely on a gimmick defense and isolation offense they would've won.

Artest was not necessary for gold.

pussyface
09-10-2006, 05:31 PM
hey chumpdumper.
if your going to be the morals and values police, as you clearly are interested in being in this case, why stop with artest?

Kobe Bryant is off for adultery. He too is a sinner.

Artest would bring the kind of toughness that the team sorely lacked. He has paid a hefty price for his indescrition (unlike Bryant who got off with a high priced lawyer and a multimillion dollar bribe to his wife.)

Leave your value judgements out of it...let's stick to basketball evaluations.

later, cool guy!

pussyface
09-10-2006, 05:33 PM
chumpdumper..."this guy dumps chumps!"

it has recently occured to me just how lame your little online name is. it is exemplary of your tendency to try to be funny, while only managing to be irritating and obnoxious.

Mr.Bottomtooth
09-10-2006, 05:43 PM
chumpdumper..."this guy dumps chumps!"

it has recently occured to me just how lame your little online name is. it is exemplary of your tendency to try to be funny, while only managing to be irritating and obnoxious.
:wtf The hell are you talking about? It's just a name. You think yours is better?

ChumpDumper
09-10-2006, 05:45 PM
Don't mind him, he's got a crush on me.

And as for Kobe, he didn't run into the stands and attack fans. It's not a value judgement, it's a plain fact. We're talking about why Ron isn't on the team, idiot. I don't expect you to be smart enough to understand.

mavsfan1000
09-10-2006, 06:34 PM
Artest instead of Lebronze or Carmarshmelo and the USA wins Gold. The biggest strength in Artest's game is defense and that is what USA lacked.

ATX Spur
09-10-2006, 08:13 PM
hey chumpdumper.
if your going to be the morals and values police, as you clearly are interested in being in this case, why stop with artest?

Kobe Bryant is off for adultery. He too is a sinner.

Artest would bring the kind of toughness that the team sorely lacked. He has paid a hefty price for his indescrition (unlike Bryant who got off with a high priced lawyer and a multimillion dollar bribe to his wife.)

Leave your value judgements out of it...let's stick to basketball evaluations.

later, cool guy!

Who's making a value judgment? Why are you talking about sin?

ATX Spur
09-10-2006, 08:16 PM
Listen, Artest forfeited the right to control his destiny more when he made the NBA look like ultimate fighting. He can pay his penance, and that and time will certainly help his image, but that doesn't say anything towards his being able to represent the USA in international play. I hope he never does. He's an accident waiting to happen.

pussyface
09-10-2006, 10:48 PM
congratulations, moral majority. you win this time.

pussyface
09-10-2006, 10:49 PM
:wtf The hell are you talking about? It's just a name. You think yours is better?

Yes

pussyface
09-10-2006, 10:51 PM
Who's making a value judgment? Why are you talking about sin?

"chumphumper" is making a value judgement when he goes all jerry fallwell on Ron Artest and ignores his abilities on the basketball floor to say he deserves no shot.

i invoked the notion of "sin" because it was funny to me that he and his ilk are standing in judgement of ron artest etc. Ive done some bad things in my life too, but i'd still like to be considered for Team USA if I was (arguably) the greatest defensive basketball player in the world as well.

pussyface
09-10-2006, 10:53 PM
Don't mind him, he's got a crush on me.

And as for Kobe, he didn't run into the stands and attack fans. It's not a value judgement, it's a plain fact. We're talking about why Ron isn't on the team, idiot. I don't expect you to be smart enough to understand.

"He's got a crush on me." I read this and thought, okay that was a very 5th grade type of insult.

"I dont expect you to be smart enough to understand." No wait, that was even more so of a lame grade school dorky insult.

Your rhetoric in arguing/talking shit is sorely lacking.
Hows this one...chumpdumper is gayer than AIDS.

Your move, ya cake eating son of a bitch.

ATX Spur
09-11-2006, 12:25 AM
"chumphumper" is making a value judgement when he goes all jerry fallwell on Ron Artest and ignores his abilities on the basketball floor to say he deserves no shot.

i invoked the notion of "sin" because it was funny to me that he and his ilk are standing in judgement of ron artest etc. Ive done some bad things in my life too, but i'd still like to be considered for Team USA if I was (arguably) the greatest defensive basketball player in the world as well.

No one is saying that Ron Artest is a bad person because he went into the stands. That is a value judgement.

What I and some of the other posters are saying is there are much better solutions to the US team trying to win the gold than putting someone on the team who is emotionally a trainwreck.

ChumpDumper
09-11-2006, 12:59 AM
"He's got a crush on me." I read this and thought, okay that was a very 5th grade type of insult.Yeah, maybe a little tough for you, but I think you should work for it.
"I dont expect you to be smart enough to understand." No wait, that was even more so of a lame grade school dorky insult.Merely stating a fact. I still suspect you're just pretending to know.
Your rhetoric in arguing/talking shit is sorely lacking.
Hows this one...chumpdumper is gayer than AIDS.

Your move, ya cake eating son of a bitch.I don't even know why I should be talking shit to you. Honestly I don't remember much about you except you're another douche mavfan who fails miserably at trying to post like Marcus Bryant. It's obvious you care much more than I do, because you simply aren't on my radar except for these drive-by stalking incidents.
"chumphumper" is making a value judgement when he goes all jerry fallwell on Ron Artest and ignores his abilities on the basketball floor to say he deserves no shot.mavfan is in such a lather over me that he fails to realize I'm simply talking about Ron's chances of making Team USA and my amusement at anyone who thinks he seriously could have been considered to represent this country after running into the stands to attack fans on national tv is an idiot. If that group of idiots includes pussyface, I'm not at all surprised.

Kings241
09-11-2006, 01:37 AM
Artest should of at least got a try out. Artest is much better than Bowen, Miller, or Jamenson.

Pero
09-11-2006, 05:46 AM
Artest instead of Lebronze or Carmarshmelo and the USA wins Gold. The biggest strength in Artest's game is defense and that is what USA lacked.


That`s rediculous. Without Carmelo the US might not have come even to the semifinals...

mavsfan1000
09-11-2006, 10:36 AM
That`s rediculous. Without Carmelo the US might not have come even to the semifinals...
Hello USA had no problems with scoring. It was their defense that failed them. You don't need 5 players that are superstars. A lineup of Billups, Wade, Artest, Bosh, and Brand would have plenty offense and some defense as well. Unfortunately Billups and Artest didn't get to play this year on that team.

ChumpDumper
09-11-2006, 11:27 AM
Artest should of at least got a try out.Artest should have at least never run into the stands to attack fans. It's not my value judgment, it's the judgment of every official on USA Basketball. Why deny that it ever happened?

cheguevara
09-11-2006, 11:28 AM
Doesn't FIBA have minimum IQ requirement for these competitions? Artest doesn't qualify

it would be fun to see what Artest does in Japan though, :lol

Marklar MM
09-11-2006, 11:39 AM
Doesn't FIBA have minimum IQ requirement for these competitions? Artest doesn't qualify

it would be fun to see what Artest does in Japan though, :lol

He will probably talk about being a Tru Warier, and how the samurai were Tru Warier's also. He will also tell us he has always wanted to be a samurai.

pussyface
09-11-2006, 12:59 PM
coolguy-
its not really stalking when you come across someone posting and disagree with their moralistic bullshit. thats what this board is about.

also, you have misrepresented yourself. you were not merely reporting that Artest does not have a chance at making Team USA, you were actively advocating that he was not worthy of one.

also, who is marcus bryant?

anyway, in conclusion, kill yourself

SpellCheckChic
09-11-2006, 06:29 PM
If they had Bowen instead of Miller they probably wold've won.

If they had Kobe they would've won.

If they had Marion they would've won.

If they had a coach who knew the names of opposing players they would've won.

If they had a coach that didn't rely on a gimmick defense and isolation offense they would've won.

Artest was not necessary for gold.You used this word five times.

Next time copy and paste. :rolleyes

Drachen
09-11-2006, 07:14 PM
"chumphumper" is making a value judgement when he goes all jerry fallwell on Ron Artest and ignores his abilities on the basketball floor to say he deserves no shot.

i invoked the notion of "sin" because it was funny to me that he and his ilk are standing in judgement of ron artest etc. Ive done some bad things in my life too, but i'd still like to be considered for Team USA if I was (arguably) the greatest defensive basketball player in the world as well.


I am sure they considered him, but since Team USA is a representative, ambassador type of position as well as a basketball position, Im sure they didnt want anyone who would be any more inflammatory than the people who are already on it.

trueD
09-11-2006, 11:09 PM
While the negativity towards Artest is completely understandable, try to remember that this is a man who used black permanent marker on his white court shoes for his first game with Kings (which was away).

An apologist I'm not, however he revamped our team with his mere presence on the court. Single handedly, like some kind of god!

Sure he's a bit short on headmass and a little long on emotion, but honestly that's what makes him work the way he does. He doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks, he just plays and plays and plays.

I'd rather have an unbalanced Artest than an underachieving piece of crap player who believes, deep down inside, that he's better than all others in his class.

See, Ron knows he's good, and he wants a piece of the action in every way imaginable. The difference is he's willing to work for it. No one's going to hand him something, he takes nothing for granted. Pure idealist on the court with 100% heart to back it up.

ChumpDumper
09-12-2006, 02:32 AM
You used this word five times.

Next time copy and paste. :rolleyesFour out of five is absolutely awesome for me.

leemajors
09-12-2006, 08:47 AM
No one is saying that Ron Artest is a bad person because he went into the stands. That is a value judgement.

What I and some of the other posters are saying is there are much better solutions to the US team trying to win the gold than putting someone on the team who is emotionally a trainwreck.

you are attempting to use reason on a pussyface.

Samr
09-12-2006, 09:56 AM
Why didn't Artest get a call? Oh, I don't know, maybe because he PUMMELED A FAN AFTER HE GOT SAND IN HIS VAGINA. I mean really, if that guy were to set foot on any international floor with the USA written on his jersey, we'd have to scramble fighters to escort him to the lane. We've sent safter projectiles into Baghdad. There is a concept called risk vs. reward, which I am sure he doesn't understand.

Because he charged into the stands, throwing away his season and, arguably, his career, just to remove some sand.

Fillmoe
09-12-2006, 10:20 AM
If they had Bowen instead of Miller they probably wold've won.

If they had Kobe they would've won.

If they had Marion they would've won.

If they had a coach who knew the names of opposing players they would've won.

If they had a coach that didn't rely on a gimmick defense and isolation offense they would've won.

Artest was not necessary for gold.


:lol :lol


neither one of them would have gotten any real playing time.... it really doesnt make that much of a difference

mavsfan1000
09-12-2006, 11:47 AM
I don't get all the Artest hate here. Sure he has a couple screw loose but he is a good teammate to play with. Sacramento I'm sure is happy he is on their team rather than on another team.

Drachen
09-12-2006, 02:32 PM
I don't get all the Artest hate here. Sure he has a couple screw loose but he is a good teammate to play with. Sacramento I'm sure is happy he is on their team rather than on another team.


Yeah, he did a great job throwing away Reggie Miller's last chance at a title. What a teammate.

ChumpDumper
09-12-2006, 02:35 PM
:lol :lol


neither one of them would have gotten any real playing time.... it really doesnt make that much of a differenceDid you not see Coach K's substitutions when he got desperate? You can't tell me he would not have put Bowen in there.

leemajors
09-12-2006, 03:46 PM
I don't get all the Artest hate here. Sure he has a couple screw loose but he is a good teammate to play with. Sacramento I'm sure is happy he is on their team rather than on another team.

i don't think it is artest hate - it's pretty clear dude wasn't selected because of his past behavior. he's now living with the consequences of his actions.

BUMP
09-12-2006, 05:18 PM
i don't think it is artest hate - it's pretty clear dude wasn't selected because of his past behavior. he's now living with the consequences of his actions.

:clap

trueD
09-13-2006, 12:18 AM
Yeah, he did a great job throwing away Reggie Miller's last chance at a title. What a teammate.I freaking LOVED Reggie Miller, he's right up there with Stockton, Allen, Garnett, & Kidd - who should have all won a ring. Well Garnett & Kidd may still, but you know....

Artest was Miller's teammate for just over three years, total. Reggie Miller played for 19 years. You see where I'm going with this? :rolleyes

ATX Spur
09-13-2006, 12:34 AM
you are attempting to use reason on a pussyface.

This is true. :drunk