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Nbadan
09-13-2006, 12:45 AM
If you want to see the beauty of body language at work, watch this interview. First, Bush is all over Matt Lauer -- check out the pointing and the aggressiveness. Then, when it's clear that Lauer's not buying it, he starts saying that he won't talk about what he's already been talking about.

Matt Lauer Corners Bush on Torture (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mp4vLBvU1bA)

P3wnd!

PixelPusher
09-13-2006, 12:55 AM
Why the hell is he smiling when he's talking about "them coming to kill your family"? Look at his face...it's practically beaming with happy bemusement.

Nbadan
09-13-2006, 12:59 AM
Looks like even Dubya is having trouble believing that one, but people do some crazy shit when their scared, like vote Repubican.

boutons_
09-13-2006, 05:52 AM
"them coming to kill your family"

Because the Repugs have lied profusely and repeatedly about so miuch in 5 years, "some" have been asking, while not trying to minimize or disregard terrrorism which nobody seriously denies, whether the absence of attacks in USA in 5 years is due to defense, OR because the attacks, which even OBL says are extremely hard to carry out in USA, are being over-exagerrated by the Repugs to scare everybody and claim credit for a situation that really doesn't exist.

The Repugs were on guard duty when OBL hit the WTC. That should be enough to impeach dubya/dickhead/condi/head of FAA/etc for derelicton of duty and incompetence.

"nobody could have stopped the WTC attack" is the spin the Repugs put out to cover their lying, venal, murderous asses.

George W Bush
09-13-2006, 09:35 AM
lying, venal, murderous asses.

Some of my better qualities. :tu

101A
09-13-2006, 10:35 AM
I guess this is eye of the beholder material; I don't see Bush as pwned in this at all. He stayed on message which was:

1. When we capture a potential intelligence asset on the battlefield, that person is the single greatest opportunity we have at gathering real information about what the enemy might be planning.

2. We interrogate that person w/in the confines of the law (the DOJ's lawyers have defined the limits for the WH)

3. We will not discuss ANY specific techniques (and he didn't), because we don't want the enemy to be able to train their agents to tolerate those techniques.

Perfectly logical/reasonable explanations given by the President, IMO.

Bush also claimed that REAL information had been obtained using the process, and that actual attacks have been foiled.

I think y'all are just so blinded by your hatred for Bush and his mannerisms that you can't see beyond that.

nkdlunch
09-13-2006, 10:40 AM
Beware of the terrorist hiding behind the closet. They are out to get us!

boutons_
09-13-2006, 10:48 AM
"person is the single greatest opportunity"

... which is not the same as useful. Many military people say coerced info is not only often of little accuracy but purposely incorrect.

....confines of the "law". over which puto Gonzales et al have been kicked in the teeth over by the SC.

People who have a strong spiritual orientation like many Muslim jihadists/suicidal fighters can have the same mental strength to resist torture as Christians think captives Christians would have.

"blinded by your hatred for Bush" I read, listened, watched the guy so closely, blinding doesn't apply. He was a superficial, ignorant, repulsive jerk when he debuted on the national scene as a figure of ridicule and he has remained so, compounded by his power to start phony wars.

Yonivore
09-13-2006, 10:58 AM
Beware of the terrorist hiding behind the closet. They are out to get us!
Meanwhile, back in the real world:

WANTED: Adnan Jumaa for Suspected Nuclear Attack on US (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/09/wanted-adnan-jumaa-for-suspected.html)


http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/seekinfo.gif
Adnan G. El Shukrijumah
http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/elshukrijumah1.jpg

http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/elshukrijumah.htm

101A
09-13-2006, 11:06 AM
"person is the single greatest opportunity"

... which is not the same as useful. Many military people say coerced info is not only often of little accuracy but purposely incorrect.

....confines of the "law". over which puto Gonzales et al have been kicked in the teeth over by the SC.

People who have a strong spiritual orientation like many Muslim jihadists/suicidal fighters can have the same mental strength to resist torture as Christians think captives Christians would have.

Granted, but Bush states that usefull information has, in fact, been gained. I'm sure some DOJ's would have problems with whatever THIS one has approved, but take the president at his word that what we have done is within the law as defined right now. If not, the new Congress, I am sure, will investigate it.


"blinded by your hatred for Bush" I read, listened, watched the guy so closely, blinding doesn't apply. He was a superficial, ignorant, repulsive jerk when he debuted on the national scene as a figure of ridicule and he has remained so, compounded by his power to start phony wars.

I have consistently cringed just about any time I have seen Bush speak since '99. He is not a good, clear, voice for the conservative point of view, and makes those of us who subscribe to it easy targets of criticism. It doesn't change the fact, however, that in our system, I have been left with the choice of a leader who has consistently demostrated very poor communication skills, that often make him appear, frankly, incompetent, and his opponents, whom I either simply completely disagree with politically, or I can't trust anything they have said because their opinions seem governed by the popular views of the moment. I chose the one who would vote most like I would - although I certainly don't agree with everything he does, or how he does it.

RandomGuy
09-13-2006, 11:59 AM
Meanwhile, back in the real world:

WANTED: Adnan Jumaa for Suspected Nuclear Attack on US (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/09/wanted-adnan-jumaa-for-suspected.html)
[picture deleted for brevity--rg]
http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/elshukrijumah.htm

Gee let's go out and build another hundred nuclear plants. The world needs more poisonous radioactive material moving around. :rolleyes

Sort of off topic, but just thought I would make that particular point. Nukes suck.

Clandestino
09-14-2006, 05:07 AM
i didn't think bush was owned either..