View Full Version : It's a good thing the Texans Drafted Mario Williams
Aggie Hoopsfan
09-17-2006, 07:17 PM
He made a huge impact in their game against the Colts today, just what they drafted him for. :lmao
Two tackles, and they got spanked. :lmao
samikeyp
09-17-2006, 07:18 PM
Somewhere, Charley Casserly is laughing his ass off.
T Park
09-17-2006, 07:46 PM
Yup, totally Mario Williams's fault.
Reggie Bush would've helped defend the WRs of the Colts too.
Oh wait.....
MannyIsGod
09-17-2006, 07:47 PM
Reggie Bush > Mario Williams > Healthy Davis > Fucked Davis
samikeyp
09-17-2006, 08:17 PM
Yup, totally Mario Williams's fault.
Reggie Bush would've helped defend the WRs of the Colts too.
Oh wait.....
No one is blaming Williams....just the Texans for drafting him.
NorCal510
09-17-2006, 08:18 PM
TPark shut the fuck up you sound like a dumbass saying that
Aggie Hoopsfan
09-17-2006, 08:42 PM
Yup, totally Mario Williams's fault.
Reggie Bush would've helped defend the WRs of the Colts too.
Oh wait.....
Hey dumbfuck, the Texans passed on him because they said Williams would help them stop Peyton and the Colts.
How well did that work out?
They lost by 3 TDs, which Reggie could have done more towards taking care of than Williams can ever hope to do with a couple of marginal tackles.
T Park
09-17-2006, 08:49 PM
They lost by 3 TDs, which Reggie could have done more towards
:lol
Whatever.
Reggie Bush isn't doin much on a Saints team that has more talent, so how exactly does that happen?
Hey dumbfuck
Sigh,
more brilliance.
MannyIsGod
09-17-2006, 08:53 PM
Not doing much? He's splitting time in the backfield and still has nearly 200 all purpose yards in 2 games. First Pennington is weak armed and now Reggie Bush "isn't doing much"?
Dude, what NFL are you watching?
T Park
09-17-2006, 08:55 PM
Well if hes as fantastic and the unstoppable guy that he supposedly is, he would have more.
On top of that, they are playing him at wideout and Mcallister is the primary runningback.
I watched the game today and thats how they played it.
First Pennington is weak armed
I didn't know yards after the catch constituted great throwing arm.
In that case Matt Leinhart has a robo arm.
NorCal510
09-17-2006, 09:19 PM
TPark you are hilariously retarded
MannyIsGod
09-17-2006, 09:20 PM
You understand the game of football incredibly well, Tpark. I see now why you dominate fantasy football. Carry on.
FromWayDowntown
09-17-2006, 09:25 PM
If Reggie Bush were worth a damn, he'd have already rushed for 1,000 yards, scored 20 touchdowns, and his team would have like 5-7 wins from the 2 games that they've played to this point. Come on, people.
I'm waiting for the thread where AHF states that the Earth is round and is called a dumbass by TPark.
Aggie Hoopsfan
09-17-2006, 09:37 PM
:lol Oh man Tpark...
In week 1 Reggie had about 200 all purpose yards
In week 2 Reggie had just north of 100 all purpose, with Green Bay keying on him
Meanwhile, Mario Williams has....wait for it.... 4 tackles, zero for a loss, in two games so far.
I wish I was playing fantasy football against you, because you're a moron.
johngateswhiteley
09-17-2006, 11:05 PM
Not doing much? He's splitting time in the backfield and still has nearly 200 all purpose yards in 2 games. First Pennington is weak armed and now Reggie Bush "isn't doing much"?
Dude, what NFL are you watching?
no shit, what the fuck is Tpark talking about. Bush would not only make the texans offense much better than it is now, he would be the featured back b/c of Davis's injury. although, even if Davis never got hurt they still should have drafted him b/c of his flexibility on offense.....that and mario williams sucks (as the #1 pick).
...but i am pretty sure Reggie is happy @ 2-0 right now, i don't care who the Saints have played.
FromWayDowntown
09-18-2006, 06:56 AM
Pennington is weak-armed, though.
PixelPusher
09-18-2006, 11:51 AM
arm strength is the most overrated aspect of quarterbacking. Jeff George had the greatest arm of any QB that ever lived.
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
09-18-2006, 12:17 PM
Pennington has a noodle arm.
And passing on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams was a typical Detroit Lions move. Welcome to the club!
kskonn
09-18-2006, 02:32 PM
I think we are seeing a very good understanding by payton on how to use the talents he has on offense. Bush has looked great in his roll and so has mcallister. They are 2-0 so why change things? Bush has done extremelly well and has done everything and more that he was asked to do.
mario williams has looked horrible in his roll and has not done anything close to what they have asked him to do.
Drive Like Jehu
09-18-2006, 04:05 PM
A good running back can shut down the other team's offense by controling the clock. The Colts WRs can't score if they are standing on the sideline.
midgetonadonkey
09-18-2006, 10:37 PM
Give the kid a fucking chance. It was his second NFL game ever. Bush wouldn't have been able to do shit with the terrible offensive line they have. Williams will be a Pro Bowler in a few seasons.
NorCal510
09-18-2006, 11:37 PM
wheres the village idiot tpark at
Johnny_Blaze_47
09-18-2006, 11:38 PM
wheres the village idiot tpark at
Designing a second sig picture for you.
MannyIsGod
09-19-2006, 01:48 AM
Give the kid a fucking chance. It was his second NFL game ever. Bush wouldn't have been able to do shit with the terrible offensive line they have. Williams will be a Pro Bowler in a few seasons.Anyway you slice it, it was a fucked up first pick. You don't build teams around Defensive fucking Ends.
slayermin
09-19-2006, 03:23 AM
Give the kid a fucking chance. It was his second NFL game ever. Bush wouldn't have been able to do shit with the terrible offensive line they have. Williams will be a Pro Bowler in a few seasons.
He isn't Reggie White. And it remains to be seen if he's Courtney Brown.
The Texans deserve to be cursed passing on Bush.
FromWayDowntown
09-19-2006, 07:05 AM
Anyway you slice it, it was a fucked up first pick. You don't build teams around Defensive fucking Ends.
Well, to be fair, that's basically what the Bills did, starting in about 1985 when they drafted Bruce Smith #1 overall. At that point, they didn't have most of the gang that would go to 4 straight Super Bowls -- the only guy defensive guy who was there already was Darryl Talley -- so Smith was the defensive guy they built around.
I suspect that if someone told the Texans during last year's draft that if they built a defense around Mario Williams, they'd be going to Super Bowls within 5 years and would make 4 appearances before Williams retired, they'd take it. I'm not saying that Williams is Bruce Smith and I'm not saying that the Texans are going to a Super Bowl anytime soon, but it's not an unprecedented line of thinking to build a defense first and then concern themselves with offense. The Bills 1985 draft isn't a perfect analogy, largely because the game-breaking offensive player that year, Jerry Rice, didn't go until #14. The first nine players selected in that draft were either DL or OL.
Aggie Hoopsfan
09-19-2006, 08:03 AM
The problem is, what did Mario Williams do in college? He had one good game all year long that made everyone think he was a player. And the Texans bought into the fool's gold.
It's not unprecedented to think defense, but you need a franchise runningback to be successful in this league, and all the Texans had when they drafted was a gimpy ass Domanick Davis.
Dumb pick.
That's like the guy in one of my fantasy leagues that picked the Pittsburgh defense in the third round, because defense wins :lol Thanks for your donation to the league pot, have a nice season. :lmao
FromWayDowntown
09-19-2006, 09:44 AM
The problem is, what did Mario Williams do in college? He had one good game all year long that made everyone think he was a player. And the Texans bought into the fool's gold.
It's not unprecedented to think defense, but you need a franchise runningback to be successful in this league, and all the Texans had when they drafted was a gimpy ass Domanick Davis.
Dumb pick.
That's like the guy in one of my fantasy leagues that picked the Pittsburgh defense in the third round, because defense wins :lol Thanks for your donation to the league pot, have a nice season. :lmao
Oh, in this case, I certainly agree. The Bills precedent is strong -- the Bills teams of the mid-80's looked a whole lot like the Texans look these days, but they jumped at the chance to take a once-in-a-generation sort of defender.
It's preposterous to me to say that Mario Williams could even hold Bruce Smith's jock.
AHF, I want to play in your fantasy league next year if that guy stays in. :)
BeerIsGood!
09-19-2006, 02:40 PM
A good running back can shut down the other team's offense by controling the clock. The Colts WRs can't score if they are standing on the sideline.
That running back needs an O Line to block. The Texans dont have an O Line. I like Bush's game as a specialty back who can be lined up in the slot, but he wouldn't be helping the Texans right now. If he was the featured back for the Texans he'd be getting killed behind that weak O Line. The Texans passing on him was the best thing that ever happened to Reggie Bush.
johngateswhiteley
09-19-2006, 02:58 PM
That running back needs an O Line to block. The Texans dont have an O Line. I like Bush's game as a specialty back who can be lined up in the slot, but he wouldn't be helping the Texans right now. If he was the featured back for the Texans he'd be getting killed behind that weak O Line. The Texans passing on him was the best thing that ever happened to Reggie Bush.
1. i agree that it was the best thing that could have happened to Bush; said as much earlier
2. but, he would be helping the texans right now...there is no doubt about that
ducks
09-19-2006, 03:09 PM
Hey dumbfuck, the Texans passed on him because they said Williams would help them stop Peyton and the Colts.
How well did that work out?
They lost by 3 TDs, which Reggie could have done more towards taking care of than Williams can ever hope to do with a couple of marginal tackles.
bush did nothing against green bay
bush looked good in game one
against the great d packers he looked like an ass
ducks
09-19-2006, 03:11 PM
He isn't Reggie White. And it remains to be seen if he's Courtney Brown.
The Texans deserve to be cursed passing on Bush.
because bush sure killed those packers sunday right :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
BeerIsGood!
09-20-2006, 01:35 PM
1. i agree that it was the best thing that could have happened to Bush; said as much earlier
2. but, he would be helping the texans right now...there is no doubt about that
I disagree that he would be helping the Texans as a featured running back. He would help on special teams returning kicks, but as a featured back on that team he would be in that "15 rush for 34 yards" category. That said they should have drafted him because if they ever do get an O Line together he and Carr would probably be very productive.
Aggie Hoopsfan
09-20-2006, 06:06 PM
bush did nothing against green bay
bush looked good in game one
against the great d packers he looked like an ass
Green Bay geared their whole defense around Reggie Bush, which allowed Donte and Drew to hurt them and win the game for NO.
Yeah, Reggie didn't help at all :rolleyes
Between LeBron and Reggie, I'm seeing a trend with you ducks.
ducks
09-20-2006, 06:34 PM
bush and lebron both took $ and gifts when in school and lebron got away with it
bush will to
watch
johngateswhiteley
09-20-2006, 10:20 PM
because bush sure killed those packers sunday right :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
1. 8 catches 68 yards. what the hell do you want from the guy; thats pretty good #'s. and i am pretty sure even the best backs in the NFL don't have over 100 yards every game. (see Alexander week 1)
2. shut up
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
09-20-2006, 10:26 PM
When are they moving Mario Williams to WR?*
*Couldn't resist...
johngateswhiteley
09-20-2006, 10:49 PM
When are they moving Mario Williams to WR?*
*Couldn't resist...
LOVE IT! btw, it's more like...when are they moving Mario to FB?
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
09-20-2006, 11:30 PM
Actually, it's: when are they moving Mario Williams to LT?
johngateswhiteley
09-20-2006, 11:39 PM
Actually, it's: when are they moving Mario Williams to LT?
or, when are they moving williams to the bench?
Squid
09-21-2006, 12:20 AM
Que gatchos!!
mardigan
09-21-2006, 01:58 PM
Domanick Davis was getting 1300 combined yards his first 3 years behind a horrible O line, so if were healthy, I really dont think everyone would be bitching as much about Reggie not being taken.Mario is having to move up and down the line, playing positions that are new, and playing next to guys who dont get any sacks themselves. I mean were you guys really expecting him to be Julius Peppers in his first 2 games? And did anyone actually watch the Colts Texans game? Mario might have only had 2 tackles, but I aslo saw him make Peyton Manning throw 2 or 3 bad/hurried passes. If only the Texans had anyone else who was a threat things might be easier on him. Anthony Weaver is ok, but he isnt going to draw any double teams. Reggie just has more oppurtunities to be on the field and be seen than Williams, he will still end up with 6 or more sacks
BeerIsGood!
09-21-2006, 02:34 PM
Domanick Davis was getting 1300 combined yards his first 3 years behind a horrible O line, so if were healthy, I really dont think everyone would be bitching as much about Reggie not being taken.Mario is having to move up and down the line, playing positions that are new, and playing next to guys who dont get any sacks themselves. I mean were you guys really expecting him to be Julius Peppers in his first 2 games? And did anyone actually watch the Colts Texans game? Mario might have only had 2 tackles, but I aslo saw him make Peyton Manning throw 2 or 3 bad/hurried passes. If only the Texans had anyone else who was a threat things might be easier on him. Anthony Weaver is ok, but he isnt going to draw any double teams. Reggie just has more oppurtunities to be on the field and be seen than Williams, he will still end up with 6 or more sacks
I am willing to bet a large number of those were receiving yards he earned without having to run behind that o line.
50 cent
09-21-2006, 02:48 PM
Houston sucks and will continue to suck for a long time.
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
09-21-2006, 02:52 PM
Domanick Davis was getting 1300 combined yards his first 3 years behind a horrible O line, so if were healthy, I really dont think everyone would be bitching as much about Reggie not being taken.Mario is having to move up and down the line, playing positions that are new, and playing next to guys who dont get any sacks themselves. I mean were you guys really expecting him to be Julius Peppers in his first 2 games? And did anyone actually watch the Colts Texans game? Mario might have only had 2 tackles, but I aslo saw him make Peyton Manning throw 2 or 3 bad/hurried passes. If only the Texans had anyone else who was a threat things might be easier on him. Anthony Weaver is ok, but he isnt going to draw any double teams. Reggie just has more oppurtunities to be on the field and be seen than Williams, he will still end up with 6 or more sacks
Umm, isn't that why he was drafted #1 overall, to be like a Peppers? I know it's early, but he doesn't look like a dominant DL to me.
johngateswhiteley
09-21-2006, 03:40 PM
Umm, isn't that why he was drafted #1 overall, to be like a Peppers? I know it's early, but he doesn't look like a dominant DL to me.
when are they moving him to FB?
mardigan
09-21-2006, 05:19 PM
Umm, isn't that why he was drafted #1 overall, to be like a Peppers? I know it's early, but he doesn't look like a dominant DL to me.
Yeah but Peppers already had other good d line players around him as well, like Kris Jenkins and Brentson Buckner. And Domanick Davis would have put up his 3rd straight 1000 yard season last year if he hadnt been held to 11 games. 03- 1031 rushing yards, 8 td, 351 recieving, 04-1188 rushing yards, 13 td, 588 recieving, 1 recieving td, 05- 976 rushing, only 2 td, 337 recieving 4 td
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