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Nbadan
09-18-2006, 02:38 AM
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Since 2001, the health-care industry has added 1.7 million jobs. The rest of the private sector? None

What's Really Propping Up The Economy



If you really want to understand what makes the U.S. economy tick these days, don't go to Silicon Valley, Wall Street, or Washington. Just take a short trip to your local hospital. Park where you don't block the ambulances, and watch the unending flow of doctors, nurses, technicians, and support personnel. You'll have a front-row seat at the health-care economy.

For years, everyone from politicians on both sides of the aisle to corporate execs to your Aunt Tilly have justifiably bemoaned American health care -- the out-of-control costs, the vast inefficiencies, the lack of access, and the often inexplicable blunders.

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But the very real problems with the health-care system mask a simple fact: Without it the nation's labor market would be in a deep coma. Since 2001, 1.7 million new jobs have been added in the health-care sector, which includes related industries such as pharmaceuticals and health insurance. Meanwhile, the number of private-sector jobs outside of health care is no higher than it was five years ago.

Sure, housing has been a bonanza for homebuilders, real estate agents, and mortgage brokers. Together they have added more than 900,000 jobs since 2001. But the pressures of globalization and new technology have wreaked havoc on the rest of the labor market: Factories are still closing, retailers are shrinking, and the finance and insurance sector, outside of real estate lending and health insurers, has generated few additional jobs.

Perhaps most surprising, information technology, the great electronic promise of the 1990s, has turned into one of the biggest job-growth disappointments of all time. Despite the splashy success of companies such as Google (GOOG ) and Yahoo! (YHOO ), businesses at the core of the information economy -- software, semiconductors, telecom, and the whole gamut of Web companies -- have lost more than 1.1 million jobs in the past five years. Those businesses employ fewer Americans today than they did in 1998, when the Internet frenzy kicked into high gear.

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Meanwhile, hospitaL administrators like Steven Altschuler, president of Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, are on a hiring spree. Altschuler has added the equivalent of 4,000 new full-time jobs since he took over six years ago, almost doubling the hospital's workforce. To put this in perspective, all the nonhealth-care businesses in the Philadelphia area combined added virtually no jobs over the same stretch.

Altschuler plans to add 3,000 more employees over the next five years as the hospital, one of the nation's leading pediatric centers, spends $1.7 billion to expand. Next up is a new 1.2 million-square-foot research facility that will be packed with well-paid scientists and support staff. "Health care is the major engine for the economy of the city of Philadelphia," says Altschuler.

The City of Brotherly Love is hardly alone. Across the country, state and local politicians, desperate for growth, are crafting their economic development strategies around biotech and health care. California will pour $3 billion into stem cell research over the next 10 years, and other areas are on the same path. "Our downtown business leaders and politicians have traditionally considered health care as a cost center, not as an economic engine," says Baiju R. Shah, a former McKinsey & Co. consultant who runs Cleveland's BioEnterprise, a nonprofit founded four years ago to stimulate the local health-care and bioscience industries. "But people are waking up."

What they're waking up to is the true underpinnings of the much vaunted American job machine. The U.S. unemployment rate is 4.7%, compared with 8.2% and 8.9%, respectively, in Germany and France. But the health-care systems of those two countries added very few jobs from 1997 to 2004, according to new data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation & Development, while U.S. hospitals and physician offices never stopped growing. Take away health-care hiring in the U.S., and quicker than you can say cardiac bypass, the U.S. unemployment rate would be 1 to 2 percentage points higher.

Almost invisibly, health care has become the main American job program for the 21st century, replacing, at least for the moment, all the other industries that are vanishing from the landscape. With more than $2 trillion in spending -- half public, half private -- health care is propping up local job markets in the Northeast, Midwest, and South, the regions hit hardest by globalization and the collapse of manufacturing (map).

Health care is highly labor intensive, so most of that $2 trillion ends up in the pockets of workers. And at least so far, there's little leakage abroad in terms of patient care. "Health care is all home-produced," says Princeton University economist and health-care expert Uwe Reinhardt. The good news is that if the housing market falls into a deep swoon, health care could provide enough new jobs to prevent a wider recession. In August, health-services employment rose by 35,000, double the increase in construction and far outstripping any other sector.

John Maynard Keynes would nod approvingly if he were alive. Seventy years ago, the elegant British economist proposed that in tough times the government could and should spend large sums of money to create jobs and stimulate growth. His theories are out of fashion, but substitute "health care" for "government," and that's exactly what is happening today.

Make no mistake, though: The U.S. could eventually pay a big economic price for all these jobs. Ballooning government spending on health care is a major reason why Washington is running an enormous budget deficit, since federal outlays for health care totaled more than $600 billion in 2005, or roughly one quarter of the whole federal budget. Rising prices for medical care are making it harder for the average American to afford health insurance, leaving 47 million uninsured.

Moreover, as the high cost of health care lowers the competitiveness of U.S. corporations, it may accelerate the outflow of jobs in a self-reinforcing cycle. In fact, one explanation for the huge U.S. trade deficit is that the country is borrowing from overseas to fund creation of health-care jobs.

There's another enormous long-term problem: If current trends continue, 30% to 40% of all new jobs created over the next 25 years will be in health care. That sort of lopsided job creation is not the blueprint for a well-functioning economy. One solution would be to make health care less labor-intensive by investing a lot more in information technology. "Low productivity in health is mostly a product of low investment," says Harvard University economist Dale Jorgenson.

For now, though, health-care hiring is providing a safety net in areas where manufacturing and retailing are no longer dependable sources of jobs.

Business Week (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_39/b4002001.htm)

boutons_
09-18-2006, 05:46 AM
I've already posted an article about the economy being driven by sickness (healthcare)

velik_m
09-18-2006, 07:25 AM
i will just comment on this part:


The U.S. unemployment rate is 4.7%, compared with 8.2% and 8.9%, respectively, in Germany and France.

you cannot compare unemployment rates from different countries like that, because different countries have different definitions of what "unemployed person" is and thus different methods of counting them.

101A
09-18-2006, 07:41 AM
The baby boomers are aging.

Old people, especially myopic, hypchondriac, old people, utilize the hell out of healthcare.

Does this surprise anyone?

This industry will surge, and then retreat, just like every other one the bubble of baby boomers has passed through. Ever notice what happened to Harley Davidson stock when they began trying to re-live their youth?

johnsmith
09-18-2006, 08:06 AM
I've already posted an article about the economy being driven by sickness (healthcare)


Dude, you've posted an article about everything.........no one reads your shit, this is like new to us.

Kevin Trudeau
09-18-2006, 09:05 AM
Healthcare is a scam.

Hook Dem
09-18-2006, 10:07 AM
"I'm blowing the whistle on the Government, the F.D.A. (The US Food and Drug Administration) and the Pharmaceutical companies.
There are Natural Cures that "They" Don't Want You To Know About, because they make too much money from you being sick and from you buying their drugs and having expensive surgeries."
More truth in that than you realize! :depressed

DarkReign
09-18-2006, 10:27 AM
"I'm blowing the whistle on the Government, the F.D.A. (The US Food and Drug Administration) and the Pharmaceutical companies.
There are Natural Cures that "They" Don't Want You To Know About, because they make too much money from you being sick and from you buying their drugs and having expensive surgeries."
More truth in that than you realize! :depressed

Buy his book then. You and the other fanatics can take herbal medicine and wipe cream on cancer.

Its a joke, btw. Dont get to crazy....

Hook Dem
09-18-2006, 10:39 AM
Buy his book then. You and the other fanatics can take herbal medicine and wipe cream on cancer.

Its a joke, btw. Dont get to crazy....
I was not really advocating "herbal medicine". More people are on medications than are needed. It's a billion dollar industry! Check with some of the people taking statin drugs but do it soon. They may not have their memory for long!

Kevin Trudeau
09-18-2006, 02:23 PM
Buy his book then. You and the other fanatics can take herbal medicine and wipe cream on cancer...

Well, it's not as simple as rubbing cream on cancer, but alternative solutions do work, but this government doesn't want you to know about them.

I guess you think that the poison "chemo radiation" helps...

You're lucky if the chemo doesn't kill you before the cancer. But the cancer industry makes too much money to let people know about real natural cures.

It would bankrupt them.

Keep an open mind and see how Dr. Lorainne Day M.D. refused to undergo traditional cancer treatemets and healed herself using simple, inexpensive natural remedies and about the lies and scams of the cancer industry.

Dr. Loraine Day (http://naturalcures.com/NC/dr-day-infomercial.aspx)

bendmz
09-18-2006, 06:34 PM
imagine that, no more Jerry Lewis on Labor Day.....

Ozzman
09-18-2006, 07:07 PM
I personally expect to see a Socialist Medical system nere in the next ten years or so. Mainly cause of all of the Fat people. I also think there will be a drop in life expectancy because of the very same thing.

101A
09-19-2006, 10:41 AM
I personally expect to see a Socialist Medical system nere in the next ten years or so. Mainly cause of all of the Fat people. I also think there will be a drop in life expectancy because of the very same thing.

We already have a socialist healthcare system (Medicare and Medicaid, as well as the Social Security Administration spend more $$$ on healthcare than the private sector. Factor in county & state hospitals, the VA and TriCare and it isn't even close.

I think what you meant to say is "Universal" healthcare.

Ozzman
09-19-2006, 05:33 PM
I mean like what Canada has....really crappy.

Nbadan
09-19-2006, 06:16 PM
We already have a socialist healthcare system (Medicare and Medicaid, as well as the Social Security Administration spend more $$$ on healthcare than the private sector. Factor in county & state hospitals, the VA and TriCare and it isn't even close.

I think what you meant to say is "Universal" healthcare.

:wtf

That's one hellava 'socialist' health care system. Your confusing everybody pays with everybody receives the same level of health care service.

Yonivore
09-19-2006, 06:17 PM
:wtf

That's one hellava 'socialist' health care system. Your confusing everybody pays with everybody receives the same level of health care service.
So, who pays for your universal health care?

Nbadan
09-19-2006, 06:22 PM
So, who pays for your universal health care?

Nobody wants universal health-care, at least, not in the Canadian health-care system sort of way. Just a new way to pay for health-care for the more than 42 million Americans currently uninsured, so that the rest of us don't have to pay for the majority of the cost when the insured absolutely, positively need medical care.

Nbadan
09-26-2006, 03:50 PM
One obvious side-effect of a health-care industry driven economy is escalating health insurance costs - estimated at twice the rate of inflation on a slow year...

Health Insurance Is Twice Inflation Rate
Tuesday September 26, 10:13 am ET
By Kevin Freking, Associated Press Writer



WASHINGTON (AP) -- Workers won't find much comfort in the smallest increase in health insurance premiums since 1999. The 7.7 percent increase this year was still more than twice the rate of inflation.

"To working people and business owners, a reduction in an already very high rate of increase just means you're still paying more," said Dr. Drew Altman, president and chief executive officer of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health care research organization that annually tracks the cost of health insurance.

Altman said the rising gap between premium growth and wages is particularly startling when one takes a longer look back. Since 2000, health insurance premiums have gone up 78 percent; wages 20 percent.

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The rising cost of health insurance is one reason that employers are finding it an increasingly difficult benefit to give their workers. Since 2000, the percentage of firms offering health benefits has fallen to 61 percent from 69 percent. This year, however, the deterioration appeared to stop, particularly among small businesses.

Yahoo News (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060926/insurance_rising_premiums.html?.v=3)

Yonivore
09-26-2006, 03:55 PM
.wrong thread.

101A
09-26-2006, 09:34 PM
:wtf

That's one hellava 'socialist' health care system. Your confusing everybody pays with everybody receives the same level of health care service.


Socialist = Govt Pays = What (to a large degree) we already have. I am not confused.