St Louis is choking

[Jimcs50]

6 days ago, they were 8 1/2 ahead of my Astros, now they are 2 1/2 ahead.

:elephant

If SD sweeps St Louis in the next 2 games and if Astros sweep the 4 against Pittsburgh, then Astros-Atlanta series could decide the pennant.

[TheSanityAnnex]

TPark counted his chickens too soon.

[leemajors]

shhhhhhhh.

[johngateswhiteley]

shhhhhhhh.

no kidding, lets not jinx our team yet. long way to go...

[Jimcs50]

shhhhhhhh.


oops.

:oops

[Das Texan]

the astros are still dead.


gotta love the false hope though.

[T Park]

Gotta love Jimmy hopping bandwagons.

[T Park]

Also,


If there was anyone to know about choking, it would be a Red Sox fan.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

6 days ago, they were 8 1/2 ahead of my Astros, now they are 2 1/2 ahead.

:elephant

If SD sweeps St Louis in the next 2 games and if Astros sweep the 4 against Pittsburgh, then Astros-Atlanta series could decide the pennant.

How many teams do you have, man?

All I know is, if there's a playoff, I'm going to really try and go.

[T Park]

Cards up 5-2 in the sixth...

[TheSanityAnnex]

TPark, where's the most recent update?



Cards down 1 in the top of the 7th! Go Padres!

[T Park]

Nothing like the fan of a team that hasn't ever done shit talking shit.

[Das Texan]

cardinals are putting on one of the all time best choke jobs here in september.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Tpark,

I addressed you in the sd vs la thread after you dismissed the Padres completely. You failed to respond. Now they are handing your team their ass and have a better record. Go cry to someone else.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Just you and me here TPark.


Go ahead, talk shit on what my team hasn't done in the past, I'll continue talking about what they are doing in the present.

[johngateswhiteley]

san diego just took lead in 8th on st. louis

[TheSanityAnnex]

actually it was in the 7th.

[TheSanityAnnex]

But they did further the lead in the 8th.

Thanks again Texas for A.Gonzalez.

[johngateswhiteley]

But they did further the lead in the 8th.

Thanks again Texas for A.Gonzalez.

sweet! yeah its now 7-5.

[TheSanityAnnex]

sweet! yeah its now 7-5.And not a peep out of TPark:lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

One more out TPark :cry

[TheSanityAnnex]

:cry

[Melmart1]

Well, at least you guys took Chan Ho off our hands :lol I am all about the Padres and Twins this year, I really like the heart and hustle of both those teams and they deserve to win, imho.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Take notice how TPark ceased responses after the Padres had a 4 run 7th inning and took the lead.


Can anyone say BEOTCH!!!

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'd also like the thank Texas for Chris Young.

[StylisticS]

I'd also like the thank Texas for Chris Young.


you're welcome:cuss

[johngateswhiteley]

unreal, i love the padres! i knew there was a reason i use to go see the padres play when i lived in Cali.

[TheSanityAnnex]

unreal, i love the padres! i knew there was a reason i use to go see the padres play when i lived in Cali.
was his name Tony Gwynn?




Anyways, just stopped by again to say TPark is a Bitch.

[johngateswhiteley]

was his name Tony Gwynn?




Anyways, just stopped by again to say TPark is a Bitch.

nah, my ex-girlfriend's parents live in San Diego and they use to get us tickets to the games all the time when we would come down from LA. though i did enjoy watching Gwynn at the end of his career.

[NorCal510]

tpark masturbates to albert pujols

[BeerIsGood!]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/60012~Houston-Astros-Posters.jpg

1 1/2 Games.

I want to see Rocket, Oswalt, and Pettite pitch in the playoffs one more year. Let's Get It Done.

[MajorMike]

The strobes are playing their abosolute best of the season while the Cards play thier worst. Is what happened in NCLS last year. The thing I love is how all the media outlets keep saying how the Cards aren't a very good team right now (4 All Stars on the DL will do that to you) which is true.... and yet they are still better than the strobes. So what does that make them?

[King]

I'm a huge Cards fan, too - but even if they do manage to salvage this, and clinch the central, it's usually the team that gets hot at the right time that rolls. Not the team that backs in.

They're simply not good enough to make any noise in the playoffs.

[MajorMike]

I agree. They are way too injured right now to go anywhere. I see the same for the Mets. They are coasting and not playing good ball. Looks like will be one of the West teams in the WS against the Twins.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Padres seem to be rolling at the right time, and if Giles gets hot, it could prove troublesome for other teams. Klesko and Greene are making their returns as well. We shall see.

[T Park]

Yeah the Cardinals are in a tailspin, and there is no stopping it.


How I'm a bitch, I don't know.

Congrats to the Astros, they are getting red hot at the right time, and they are doing very very well.


I hope the Cardinals don't lose this lead, but the team looks so uptight and worn out that it doesn't look good.


Anthony Reyes going tonight vs red hot Chris Young.


I think the key point to last night's game, was they had bases loaded with 1 out, and Molina pops out.

If they pinch hit for him there, suicide squeeze, something, and turn that game around, then we are obviously talking about a totally different story.

[Spurminator]

Man I've been so busy at work lately I haven't paid ANY attention to baseball... For the last two weeks I've been assuming the Astros were mathematically eliminated.

Shit! I've missed all the excitement!

[Jimcs50]

TPark, the Red Sox do not choke. They have had more injuries this year than ny team in the MLs. They are the only team to come back from 0-3 in baseball to win a series....that is clutch.

The Astros are my team too, anyone can tell you that. I have one AL team and one NL team, just like most people.

Now, if St Louis does not win division, it will be the biggest fold in the history of sports. 9 games up with 2 wks to go and lose the division???? That would be horrible for the state of Missouri.


It will still be almost impossible for the Astros to catch them, but it sure make it fun to watch.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

TPark, the Red Sox do not choke.

Game 6.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/curse/gfx/buckner_bill_1986.jpg

Game 7.

http://www.nytstore.com/ProdImages/NSAPMI66L_large.jpg

[T Park]

Now, if St Louis does not win division, it will be the biggest fold in the history of sports. 9 games up with 2 wks to go and lose the division????


Get the facts right Jimmy.

8 1/2.

It would've been 2 had the Cards been able to play that rained out game VS San Fran.

[T Park]

oh

Go Pirates and Go Marlins.

[T Park]

That would be horrible for the state of Missouri.


God babble about extremes much?

The STATE!?

:yawn

[T Park]

Take notice how TPark ceased responses after the Padres had a 4 run 7th inning and took the lead.


Can anyone say BEOTCH


Take notice how you obviously have no life.

[T Park]

Cards down 1-0 after 1.

Astros down 6-1 at the end of 5 innings.

Reds losing too.

[T Park]

top 3 1-0 Padres

Top 6 Berkman hits 2 run homer, Astros cut the lead to 6-4.

Bottom 5 Marlins lead Reds 4-2.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I'm a huge Cards fan, too - but even if they do manage to salvage this, and clinch the central, it's usually the team that gets hot at the right time that rolls. Not the team that backs in.

They're simply not good enough to make any noise in the playoffs.

Ummm, the CWS backed into the playoffs last year and I think it worked out pretty well for them...

[Spurminator]

Tying run on in the 9th for the Astros, with Lamb and Berkman due up.

I hope I'm not cursing them by actually paying attention...

[Spurminator]

2 on 2 out for Luke Scott.

[Spurminator]

Tie Game!!!!

[T Park]

Pujols three run homer to take the lead in the bottom of the 8th, 4-2.

Now if the stupid bullpen can hold on.

Doubtfull though.


Pirates and Astros top of 12th 6-6 game.


Reds lose, magic number for the cards to eliminate the Reds is 3 I believe.

[Spurminator]

Damn, Pujols just hit a bomb to give the Cards the lead....

[T Park]

game over.

Cards win 4-2.

Adam Wainwright comes in and shuts em down.


The homer by Pujols hit Big Mac land.

Third tier, about 480 490 feet more than likely.


Kind of a no doubter.

THE SCHNIDE IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!


WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!


Magic number down to 4, and if the Pirates can help, its down to 3.


The bitch about the game tonight.

Tyler Johnson gets the win, when, hes prob the second worst pitcher out of the bullpen.

Reyes was absolutely nails tonight going 6 good innings.

Tip of the cap to Antny.

[T Park]

Ausmus sac fly top of the 15th, gives the Astros a 7-6 lead.

man on first 2 out.

[T Park]

Trevar Miller comes in and gets the save.

Astros win 7-6 in 15.


Magic number, is 4.

[T Park]

Phillies and Washington is still going....

Bases loaded bottom of the 14th inning.


Wild card depends on that.


If LA wins, its Mets Dodgers Central division V Padres

AS OF RIGHT NOW.

[King]

Ummm, the CWS backed into the playoffs last year and I think it worked out pretty well for them...

Ok, I'm sorry. Generally, the team that runs the table in the playoffs is the team that gets hot at the right time. Not the team that backs in.

Although, there may be exceptions to this, such as the 2005 Chicago White Sox.

[T Park]

The Red Sox weren't exactly tearing things up going in.

The Marlins IIRC barely got the wild card.


Thats what TLR has been saying since the end of August.

Get there and you never know what happens.

[leemajors]

Ok, I'm sorry. Generally, the team that runs the table in the playoffs is the team that gets hot at the right time. Not the team that backs in.

Although, there may be exceptions to this, such as the 2005 Chicago White Sox.

i think the sox did sweep the tribe to get some momentum before the playoffs last year.

[Jimcs50]

Get the facts right Jimmy.

8 1/2.

It would've been 2 had the Cards been able to play that rained out game VS San Fran.


You get the facts right!!!!

9 gamesd back in loss column!!!!


That is the 9 games that matter.

[Extra Stout]

Ok, I'm sorry. Generally, the team that runs the table in the playoffs is the team that gets hot at the right time. Not the team that backs in.

Although, there may be exceptions to this, such as the 2005 Chicago White Sox.
Backing in at 99-63 is not quite the same as backing in at 83-78.

[T Park]

Backing in at 99-63 is not quite the same as backing in at 83-78.



Id say having a healthier team than the Cardinals was quite the difference.

The Cardinals haven't had their full team since about, middle of July.

[T Park]

9 gamesd back in loss column!!!!


That is the 9 games that matter


and the Astros have played 1 more game than the Cards.

So get off the high horse Red Sox boy.

[T Park]

According to my Cardinal buddies, its supposed to rain all day in Pittsburgh.

If THAT happens, that really throws a wrench in the whole damn process.

ESPECIALLY, if they finish the season and the Cards only have a 1 game lead.

If the dudnals can finish 2 games up, then both teams wouldn't have to play the makeup, and there wouldn't be that stupid 1 game playoff tuesday, wich for some unknown reason would be played in Houston.

[T Park]

Yeah its raining pretty darn good right now.

Supposedly once that moves through, they are gonna give it a shot.

What hurts the Stros, is if Oswalt goes and pitches only about 2 or 3 innings, then they delay again, and have to go to a really tired bullpen.

Wheeler went 3 innings, Lidge 2, Sampson went 2 and 1/3.

Guys available would be I assume Miller, Nieve, Qualls, and others that I don't know about.

But, rain has reallllly throw a wrench into this baseball season, two weeks ago with San Fran and STL, and now today.

[leemajors]

the astros won a coin flip during the card/stros series in houston, that's why they get home field for the playoff (if it occurs).

[MajorMike]

The Cards have a makeup; the strobes don't.

Therefore, the game-up will be a half. If StL is 1.5 up or more, there will be no make up game. If StL is only .5 up, there will be.

In that situation, if StL wins, they win. If StL loses, it's a tie.

[Jimcs50]

The Cards have a makeup; the strobes don't.

Therefore, the game-up will be a half. If StL is 1.5 up or more, there will be no make up game. If StL is only .5 up, there will be.

In that situation, if StL wins, they win. If StL loses, it's a tie.

If St Louis is 1/2 up or behind, then they play SF. If they are behind 1/2 and they win, then they play at Houston.

TPark, Houston won season series, so they deserve hca in one game playoff.

[MajorMike]

If St Louis is 1/2 up or behind, then they play SF. If they are behind 1/2 and they win, then they play at Houston.

Look at the big brain on Brad. Thanks for saying what I just said.

[T Park]

TPark, Houston won season series, so they deserve hca in one game playoff.

Oh do they...


Too bad there won't be one spanky.

[T Park]

After a 3 and ahalf hour delay, the game is getting underway finally.

Oswalt going for the Astros

Tom Gorzelanny for the Pirates.

[T Park]

I think the lineup for the Astros is


Taveras in center
Ensburg at 3rd
Berkman at first
Scott in left
Burke at second
Lane in right
Everett at short
Ausmas catching
and Oswalt pitching

[T Park]

lol

the Astros announcer is sitting in right field, and has COUNTED the amount of people there.

Between 3 and 500 :lmao

The rain all day plus a bad team PLUS a day game, doesnt help.

[T Park]

Astros go 1.2.3 at the top of the first

nothing nothing.

[T Park]

Pirates up to bat now, and on cue, the rain starts again.....


Owalt strikes out Duffy.

lineup for Pittsburgh

Duffy in center
Wilson at shorrt
Sanchez at 3rd
Bay in left
Doumit thefuckingstiff at first
Nady in right
Castillo at second
Maldonado catching
and Grozelanny pitching


and Jack Wilson gets a double after the strikeout of Duffy.

[T Park]

Snachez grounds out, and there is 2 down.

[T Park]

walk to bay makes it first and third

Ryan Doumit up to bat now.

[T Park]

Oswalt strikes out Doumit.

2 on 1 hit

end of 1, 0-0....

[T Park]

Grozelanny pitches so quick at the top of the 2nd, I miss it lol.

Astros go 1.2.3 again.

0-0 middle of the 2nd.

[T Park]

Nady grounds out to Oswalt, 1 out.

[T Park]

Castillo grounds out to short, 2 down.

[T Park]

Maldanado flys out to right.

Buckos go down 1.2.3

Top of the 3rd, 0-0.

[T Park]

Everett grounds out to short 1 out.

Ausmus grounds out to the pitcher 2 out.

[T Park]

Oswalt flys out to deep center field.

1.2.3 go the Astros again.

zip zip bottom of the 3rd.

[T Park]

BTW,

Texas DOT, or whoever runs the commercials.

Get rid of the old guys talking whatever, "hip" i guess.


Its disturbing and akward.

[T Park]

Oswalt strikes out Gorzelanny on 3 pitches.

1 down.

[T Park]

Oswalt strikes out Duffy on a nasty curve.

2 down.


Sidenote, Oswalt now has 4 strikeouts, pretty much doing what I expected against these stiffs.

[T Park]

Oswalt walks Jack Wilson on 4 straight inside.

NL soon to be batting champ Freddy Sanchez up now.

[T Park]

Sanchez grounds to Ensberg, who forces out Wilson at third.

Through 3 innings, 0-0.

[T Park]

Taveras grounds out to 3rd.

Ensberg check swing grounds out to the pitcher.

2 outs.

[T Park]

Berkman strikes out looking.

1.2.3 go the Astros.

0-0 after 3 and a half.

[T Park]

Bay hits a looping single to left.

Leadoff man on.

[T Park]

Doumit bounces to second for a 4 6 3 twin killing.

Two outs.
Nady hits a loooon liner to right on the first pitch to lane who makes the catch.

technically, 3 up 3 down.


through 4 innings, 0-0.

[T Park]

Wild Card race update

Dodgers who were up 8-3, are now tied 8-8 in the bottom of the 4th inning.

[T Park]

Luke Scott strikes out looking, and there is 1 out.

[T Park]

Chris Burke hits a basehit to left, ending the perfect game.

[T Park]

Lane hits a broken bat blooper to left.

2 on 1 out for Everett.

[T Park]

Everett hits a basehit up the middle

Burke scores
and its 1-0 Astros.... :depressed

[T Park]

Ausmus is hit by the pitch.

Bases are loaded, 1 out for Roy Oswalt.

[T Park]

Oswalt is walked, and the Astros score another, its 2-0 Astros.

Pretty much making the game out of reach :lol

[T Park]

Taveras grounds to the pitcher, who tosses home for 1 out.

2 outs, bases still loaded for Morgan Ensberg.

[T Park]

Gorzelanny walks Ensberg.

3-0 Astros now....

[T Park]

Berkman grounds to short, who tosses to second for the force.

4 and a half innings, Astros lead 3-0.

[T Park]

Castillo grounds out to Berkman, who flips to Oswalt for the out.

1 down.

[T Park]

Maldonado strikes out, and there is 2 outs.

[T Park]

Oswalt strikes out Gorzelanny for his sixth strikeout.

Through five innings making it an official game, 3-0 Astros.

[T Park]

Scott grounds out to the catcher. 1 out.

[T Park]

Burke bunt flys out to Gorzelanny.

[T Park]

Lane flys out to first.

End of 5 and a half 3-0 Astros.

[T Park]

Duffy grounds out to Oswalt.


1 out

[T Park]

Jack Wilson hits a soft bloops to left for a basehit.

[T Park]

Freddy Sanchez flys out to short.

[T Park]

Bay hits a basehit to center, and its 1st and 3rd with 2 outs for Doumit, who more than likely will crap out.

[T Park]

Doumit is hit by the pitch.

Bases loaded, 2 outs, and Xavier Nady steps to the plate.

[T Park]

Nady grounds out to short.

end of 6 innings, 3-0 Astros.

[T Park]

Everett flys out to left thanksto a tremendous play by Bay to rob him of a home run.

1 out.

[T Park]

Dodgers take the lead in Colorado in the top of the 6th, its now 14-10 Rams over Broncos :drunk


Ausmus walks, 1 on, 1 out for Roy Oswalt.

[T Park]

Oswalt sacrafices Ausmus to second.

Oswalt sets a new team record for sacrafices by a pitcher as an Astro.

[T Park]

Taveras grounds out to second to end the inning.

3-0 Astros through 6 and a half.

[T Park]

Castillo flys out to center.

Maldonado grounds out to third

and Najei Davis pinch hits for Gorzelanny.

[T Park]

Davis flys out to center.

1,2,3 go the Buckos.

3-0 Astros after 7 innings.


Nice win today 'Stros.

[T Park]

Trever Miller comes in for Oswalt, and strikes out Duffy.

Qualls now coming in for Miller.


Oops,

Stros went 1.2.3 in the top of the 8th.

[T Park]

Wilson hits a slow chopper to second, and is safe on the late throw by Burke.

[T Park]

Sanchez grounds into a 5 4 3 double play.

1 hit no runs

3-0 Astros after 8 innings.

[T Park]

Burke flys out to second base, and there is 1 out in the top of the 9th.

Huff pinch hits for Jason Lane.

[T Park]

Huff walks...

[T Park]

Jimerson is pinch running for Aubrey Huff.

[T Park]

Everett flys out to right field, 2 outs...

[T Park]

Charlton Jimerson steals second..

[T Park]

Ausmus flys out to right, Jimerson stranded at second.

Going to the bottom of the 9th, Brad lidge coming on to close it out, and its 3-0 Astros.

[T Park]

Bay flys out to center.

1 out.

[T Park]

Doumit grounds out to short stop, 2 outs.

[T Park]

Lidge strikes out Nady, and the game is OFFICIALLY over.


Winning streak to 9, and that was a nice quick pathetic effort by the Pirates :lol

[leemajors]

don't worry, ATL will be much tougher. before pujols, chipper was the original astro killer :( go stros!

[Jimcs50]

:elephant

Astros win again!!!! Sweep is complete.

:smokin




GO BREWERS!!!!!!!!

[T Park]

Settle down Red Sox honk. You beat the Pirates, akin to beating the Lansing Lugnuts.


don't worry, ATL will be much tougher. before pujols, chipper was the original astro killer

Im hoping Atlanta matches their play against the Astros, that they showed against the Mets.

That would help things tremendously.

[johngateswhiteley]

brew crew up 4-0 top 2nd.

[Das Texan]

brew crew up 4-0 top 2nd.


7-0 in the third.


the cardinals are pathetic.

[johngateswhiteley]

Settle down Red Sox honk. You beat the Pirates, akin to beating the Lansing Lugnuts.



Im hoping Atlanta matches their play against the Astros, that they showed against the Mets.

That would help things tremendously.

umm, lest you forget the Stros swept 4 against St. Louis, beat Cincy 2 of 3 before that and then beat Philly before sweeping pitts...thats damn good. don't criticise...

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Mil 9 Stl 1 bottom of the 4th

[T Park]

umm, lest you forget the Stros swept 4 against St. Louis, beat Cincy 2 of 3 before that and then beat Philly before sweeping pitts...thats damn good. don't criticise...

yippie.


Brewers win tonight.

Hopefully Weaver comes out tommarow night and does a better job.


Looks like they might have to play San Fran on monday.

[Das Texan]

Looks like they might have to play San Fran on monday.



probably not.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

FU Minnesota.

That is all.

[T Park]

probably not.


Yeah.

Im still holding out the faintest of hopes that Atlanta continues to play out of their minds, and the Cardinals, by some miracle, win against the Brewers.

[Das Texan]

Yeah.

Im still holding out the faintest of hopes that Atlanta continues to play out of their minds, and the Cardinals, by some miracle, win against the Brewers.


oh i didnt mean cause hte cardinals clinch before monday....

[T Park]

I know you didnt.

Nice little run in the 8th inning but too much pathetic pitching from nutcase good riddance Marquis.

Preston Wilson with 3 RBis tonight a homer and a double.


Theres always tommorow, but its Chris Capuano vs Weaver.

If Weaver can pitch like he did Sunday they should be fine.

But, Capuano is one of the underrated pitchers in the league, and one of the better ones.

If I was a betting man, Houston will be in first by friday night.

[Jimcs50]

:elephant


Astros are in driver's seat now. They can sweep Atlanta, with The Rocket, Andy and the platoon in the 3 starts, and the Cards are not going to win 3 straight...no way.

Tomorrow, they have the hack Weaver pitching for them and he will probably give up 5 runs in first 5 innings.

[Jimcs50]

Also, if it does go to playoff with Cards...guess who will be pitching?


Roy O, baby.

[NBA Junkie]

FU Minnesota.

That is all.

What the hell are you so mad about? You get the pansy Royals for the final three games of the season, while the Twins get the slumping, but much better ChiSox.

ADVANTAGE DETROIT!!!

[T Park]

Tomorrow, they have the hack Weaver pitching for them and he will probably give up 5 runs in first 5 innings.

You mean the guy who pitched right with Roger Clemens?

He might.

But hes pitched pretty solid for the birds since they acquired him.

Hes a solid number 5 guy.


Astros are in driver's seat now. They can sweep Atlanta, with The Rocket, Andy and the platoon in the 3 starts

They are still a half game behind, and you think they are gonna win saturday with a guy who pitched 2 and 2 thirds last night?

They probobly will, but your cockyness mr Spurs just acquired Kurt Thomas, is a little annoying.

Town it down spunky.


and the Cards are not going to win 3 straight...no way.


Probobly not.

But gotta love your objectiveness here.

[T Park]

What the hell are you so mad about? You get the pansy Royals for the final three games of the season, while the Twins get the slumping, but much better ChiSox.

ADVANTAGE DETROIT

Royals can be a bitch.

Ask the Twins, and the Cardinals.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

What the hell are you so mad about? You get the pansy Royals for the final three games of the season, while the Twins get the slumping, but much better ChiSox.

ADVANTAGE DETROIT!!!


Not mad, just annoyed. Detroit does have the advantage since the Twins have to win the division outright. GL, and may the better team win.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Royals can be a bitch.

Ask the Twins, and the Cardinals.

Detroit owns a 14-1 record against KC this year.

[MajorMike]

Royals can be a bitch.

Ask the Twins, and the Cardinals.

Or Don Denkinger.

[Jimcs50]

You mean the guy who pitched right with Roger Clemens?

He might.

But hes pitched pretty solid for the birds since they acquired him.

Hes a solid number 5 guy.



They are still a half game behind, and you think they are gonna win saturday with a guy who pitched 2 and 2 thirds last night?

They probobly will, but your cockyness mr Spurs just acquired Kurt Thomas, is a little annoying.

Town it down spunky.



Probobly not.

But gotta love your objectiveness here.


TPark, how can I tone it down???

My team has underachieved all year, they made no moves before trading deadline to add pop to their anemic lineup, they totally disappointed all of us Astros fans all year, they were DEAD in the water just 10 days ago. But they actually have a good chance to not only make the playoffs, they have the best chance to make the World Series, if they do get in post season, given the Mets' problems, especially the season ending injury to Pedro.

You Tpark, would be just as "spunky" if the tables were turned, yes?

[MajorMike]

Hey, don't forget about that Aubury Huff guy. He's a monster.

[BeerIsGood!]

The St Louis fan(s) in here seem pretty defeated at this point. I'm thinking the team has to feel the same way.

[MajorMike]

I think we are a better team. I think our injuries are dragging us down. Can't be a contender when your #2 and All Star pitcher has been hurt all season and is now out, your All Star closer has been suffering from complecations of hip surgery all season and is now out, your All Star, Golden Glove, and 2-time reigning Defensive Player of the Year Center Fielder has been out for 2 months with post-concussion syndrome and is still having vertigo issues, and your All Star and Golden Glove Short Stop has been out for 2 months with injuries.

No excuses, just facts. Our pitching sucks and we have relied on offense and outstanding defense. Our 2 best defensive players are gone, and we have no offensive continuity.

This team will have at least a top 2 in each of MVP, Cy Young, and Comeback Player (Rolen) and also a top 5 Rookie of Year (Duncan) and likely 2 Gold Gloves (Al, Rolen) and yet is going no where. Its a tuff call... do you want to win the Central and get blasted in the playoffs or just go home? Sure I want to win the Central (to make it 6 in 7 years?) but still the team is injured bad right now.

[johngateswhiteley]

The St Louis fan(s) in here seem pretty defeated at this point. I'm thinking the team has to feel the same way.


...i hope so.

[dmac]

...
Hes a solid number 5 guy.



...The problem with the Cardinals is they have 1 #1 starter and 4 #5 starters.
then there's the bullpen...

[T Park]

The St Louis fan(s) in here seem pretty defeated at this point. I'm thinking the team has to feel the same way.

Not defeated at all.

The team is struggling due to injuries, and its an uphill battle.

Its tough to watch a team busting their collective butts and ZIPPO is going right.

[T Park]

The problem with the Cardinals is they have 1 #1 starter and 4 #5 starters

Anthony Reyes and Suppan are not #5 starters give me a break.

Suppan has the lowest ERA in the major leagues after the all star break.

#5 guys don't do that.

[T Park]

8-1 Cardinals bottom of the 5th

Astros just lost 4-1 to the Braves.


Magic numero es un tres :)

[T Park]

Cards win 10-5.


Playing the rememberence highlights from 06.

Its always bittersweet this time of year, its awesome to get close tot he postseason, but the season is almost over.

Last game of the year on FSN all that stuff.

Oh well.

Come on Cards, lets finish the deal.


Oh yeah, BTW Jim.

Weaver

5 1/3rd, 3 runs, a few strikeouts,

So, uh, yeah, way to go Spicoli.

Under 4 ERA since joining the Cardinals.

Guess hes not as bad as everyone thinks.

Magic number.

2

[T Park]

Oh yeah,

heres a note to you St Louis people.

If you morons, run out Tony La Russa, cause your brains are the size fo freaking olives, then Im gonna be one pissed off fan.

[T Park]

SPANK THAT BREWER ASS BOYS!!!!!!





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[T Park]

Nice job tonight Spicoli.

Silence the hatas :fro

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[T Park]

Thank you again Houston for Preston Wilson BTW.


Homer, 3 RBIs tonight :) :fro :fro :fro

[T Park]

This team will have at least a top 2 in each of MVP, Cy Young, and Comeback Player (Rolen) and also a top 5 Rookie of Year (Duncan) and likely 2 Gold Gloves (Al, Rolen) and yet is going no where. Its a tuff call... do you want to win the Central and get blasted in the playoffs or just go home? Sure I want to win the Central (to make it 6 in 7 years?) but still the team is injured bad right now.



I dunno Mike.


I like the addage used since July by Larussa.

"Get there, and just see what happens"


Ya never know.

[NorCal510]

TPark sucks that pee pee

[TheSanityAnnex]

Nice job tonight Spicoli.

Silence the hatas :fro

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I am hoping to face your shitty team come playoff time to get some revenge

[T Park]

Bring it on.

El Hombre will nail the pitchers like he did wednesday night :)

[T Park]

Honestly Im hoping the way it goes.

Dodgers win the divison, Padres play the Mets, beat the mets in 5 in looong games.

Cards play the equally depleted Dodgers and hopefully beat htem.


That would be ideal.

[NBA Junkie]

If there was anyone to know about choking, it would be a Red Sox fan.

Wouldn't that be the same team that swept your Cardinals in the World Series back in 2004?

[T Park]

Wouldn't that be the same team that swept your Cardinals in the World Series back in 2004?

Uh yeah...

So what.

[MajorMike]

Cards win, again. Magic # is 1.

If the strobes tank tonight, we can shelve Carpenter and save him for the playoffs, and there will be no makeup game. If they win, he will pitch tomorrow.

[T Park]

Hell of a win today.

Fantastic pitching by Sup all day long.

He is MORE than in playoff form.

He will pitch game 3 against LA/SD first game at home.

If he can keep up his performance post All Star, and Carp can regain his form, these RedBirds have just as much a shot as anyone going in.

[T Park]

Well the Astros are gonna win this one.

They have literally been handed this game thanks to Edgar Renteria and Marcus Giles.


Absolutely pathetic defense.


Fucking Astros get HANDED a game. Just GIVEN. DIdn't even have to work for it.

[T Park]

Thanks to the Braves inept and Tampa Bay Devil Ray play, the Cardinals will have to pitch Carpenter tommorow.

All because the Braves are fucking idiots.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

All because the Braves are fucking idiots.

I guess that 8 game losing streak by the Cardinals had nothing to do with it

[MajorMike]

Again, Cards had an unimaginable losing streak and the strobes had an unimaginable winning streak. A real odd thing. Like to save Chris for the playoffs, but who better to pitch your way into the Central title than him and with Smoltz pitching his last game in a Braves uniform against the strobes.

On a side note... I listened to the Atl game and I couldn't help but hear about how Berkman was having the best season ever for Houst. I just thought it was weird that the best ever strobe season won't even get the poor guy in the top 3 in MVP voting.

[leemajors]

berkman is doing it with little to no protection in the lineup too. it took garner a long time to realize scott should be hitting right behind him. he deserves to be talked about for MVP just as much as pujols or howard.

[MajorMike]

True, but no one is giving him ANY run for it.

On a lighter note, the Cy Young will be decided tomorrow, as both Webb and Chris pitch. Webb is up against the red-hot Padres still fighting for the division crown. He beats them and goes around 7, he wins. If the DBacks lose and Chris shuts down the Brewers, he wins.

[T Park]

I guess that 8 game losing streak by the Cardinals had nothing to do with it

Yet they are still up 1.5.


I know all of ESPN and Baseball hates the Cardinals are gonna be there.

[leemajors]

True, but no one is giving him ANY run for it.

On a lighter note, the Cy Young will be decided tomorrow, as both Webb and Chris pitch. Webb is up against the red-hot Padres still fighting for the division crown. He beats them and goes around 7, he wins. If the DBacks lose and Chris shuts down the Brewers, he wins.

i would give it to zambrano, he has had a ridiculously good season for an absolutely horrible team. there's no way he will win it though.

[T Park]

Can't give it to someone who has been medically diagnosed physchoticly crazy.

[MajorMike]

Wow, we didn't pitch Carpenter. Tony has balls of steel. Good thing the strobes really DO suck.

[Horry For 3!]

Cardinals won't do anything in the playoffs but they made it.

[Brutalis]

Why does ESPN hate the Cards?

[Trainwreck2100]

Why does ESPN hate the Cards?

Does ant team in the NL really matter, it's gonna be a playoff competition to see who gets the honor of being swept by the American League Champs

[T Park]

Cardinals won't do anything in the playoffs but they made it.


Thats fine.

Hope everyone thinks that.

Everyone said that about the Angels, Marlins, and others.



Does ant team in the NL really matter, it's gonna be a playoff competition to see who gets the honor of being swept by the American League Champs




Theres no one in the American league that is unbeatable.

The Tigers limped in.

The Twins won in.

The A's don't have the starting pitching.

The Yankees starting pitching definately isn't good enough.


Everyteam in the postseason has holes, and has their questionmarks.


Eckstein and Spiezio were both on the radio in St Louis right now, and said this team reminds them of the Angels team in 02.

3 solid rotation guys. Young pitchers in the bully.

1 big stud and solid role players around him.



"get there and see what happens"

[Extra Stout]

Why does ESPN hate the Cards?

Are they the New York Cardinals?

The Los Angeles Cardinals?

The Chicago Cardinals?

The San Francisco Cardinals?

The Philadelphia Cardinals?

The Washington Cardinals?

The Boston Cardinals?

No?

That's why.

[MajorMike]

Small market team does good. StL is the best baseball town in the US, the fans are rabid about their team, but big markets hate them because they are good and a small market.

See the Spurs as an example.

[T Park]

Cards are going in as the big underdog.

The last two years it didnt work being the hunted.

Pujols and others have already said, its gonna be fun to just go out there and ball.

No worries, no expectations just let it all hang out and have alot of fun.

[resistanze]

Holy shit @ Pujols hitting a career-high 49 homers and missing about 20 games. I stopped keeping track months ago. MVP race is tighter than I initially thought.

[leemajors]

Wow, we didn't pitch Carpenter. Tony has balls of steel. Good thing the strobes really DO suck.

or he was worried and saving him for the extra game/next series. beyond carpenter the card don't have much in the way of starters, and he has been shaky lately.

[T Park]

or he was worried and saving him for the extra game/next series

Common sense.

Carps been tired, give him two days of extra rest, and let him be ready to go up against Peavy on tuesday afternoon.


beyond carpenter the card don't have much in the way of starters

Nah.

Only Suppan who has the lowest ERA of any pitcher since the all star break, under 2.

Weaver, who is 4-0 on the road with a 3 50 ERA.

Totally can see how you can make that "judgement"

[leemajors]

weaver, who serves up premium gopher balls. suppan has had a nice second half, but you're hyping dude up a little much. as a stros fan the last 2 years in the playoffs we would look forward to facing suppan. carpenter was usually a loss for us, but the rest were up for grabs.

[MajorMike]

cardinals are putting on one of the all time best choke jobs here in september.

Good thing Sept ended.

[MajorMike]

Does ant team in the NL really matter, it's gonna be a playoff competition to see who gets the honor of being swept by the American League Champs

:elephant

[MajorMike]

Cardinals won't do anything in the playoffs but they made it.

:elephant

[T Park]

oh man just rename the tbhread, Crow central

[MajorMike]

weaver, who serves up premium gopher balls. suppan has had a nice second half, but you're hyping dude up a little much. as a stros fan the last 2 years in the playoffs we would look forward to facing suppan. carpenter was usually a loss for us, but the rest were up for grabs.

:sucker

[leemajors]

:sucker


suppan and weaver sure proved me wrong. :madrun

[T Park]

Yeah now the Cardinals unfortunately MIGHT have to choose either or.

Suppan will prob get HUGE dinero from the Yankees.

Fucking steinbrenner.

[ducks]

Yeah now the Cardinals unfortunately MIGHT have to choose either or.

Suppan will prob get HUGE dinero from the Yankees.

Fucking steinbrenner.
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[MajorMike]

The Cardinals have yet to have any discussions with free agent Jeff Suppan on a new contract.

Suppan probably priced himself out of the team's range with his success in the playoffs. There's now talk of him getting at least $32 million over four years, setting him up as a potential bust. He's a fine bet to stay healthy and put up reasonable numbers if he remains in the National League. However, it needs to be remembered that he had a 1.45 WHIP despite a remarkably easy schedule last season. Also, his career ERA in the AL stands at 4.96. The Yankees are among the AL teams believed to have some interest in him.

[T Park]

If Suppan goes elswhere he won't succeed.

The only reasons him and Weaver have, is because of Dave Duncan

[MajorMike]

Same as Matty and Woody. And Tavarez and Timlin.

[T Park]

Not Timlin.

Timlin has been very good for the Boston Red Sox.

[MajorMike]

Not Timlin.

Timlin has been very good for the Boston Red Sox.

Not really. 24-17 with a 3.6 ERA for a middle reliever isn't great. He also has a 7+ ERA in the post season. No matter, he was only with the Cards for 1 full season.

By the way, the Cards will not pickup Jimmy Hollywood's team option 10+ mil contract. However, I hear (from a little Red birdie) that they are currently restructuring a 2-year deal that will give him around 6-8 each year, allowing him to stay 2 more years with us.

1st on the agenda, however, is signing Carp to an extension. The Cards have an 8 Mil option in '08. They are looking to lock him up, long term.

2nd is Jimmy's contract.

Next is figuring out what to do with Suppan.

Trying to sign Spezio, believe it or not, is high on the list. Tony makes a living off his role players, and having someone to fill in for not only the oft-injured Rolen but able to play left, plus being a legacy Card, makes him a high priority.

Common wisdom is Miles has earned a spot for next year, and supposedly he wants to stay. May be our everyday 2B.

Weaver made 8+ Mil this year and didn't pitch like it until the playoffs. If he wants anything near 8, he won't be back, tho it is VERY difficult to see anyone offering him that.

2 names I hear that I don't understand are Wilson and Radke. For some reason, the Cards really want to keep Preston. He had a nice run, we should just let him go. They are talking to Radke, who is contemplating retirement.

So Taguchi will have to compete with Skip Schumaker for the outfield utility spot. Tony loves So, but Skip is young with lots of promise, while So has been around a few years and not done much.

Mulder - doesn't get along with Duncan - bye. Too bad because we gave up so much for him, but if he is the worst decision Walt makes,I'm good with that.

Belliard - bye. Back to Cleveland. Thanks for letting us rent him for the post season.

Marquis - bye. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. Woody and Matty get million dollar contracts after some great years... hate to see what Jason is, or I should say isn't going to get.

Bigbie (who?) - bye.

Flores, Hancock, Bennett, Rodriguez, Sosa - all will be back unless someone offers some mad money to Flores or Sosa.

Here is an interesting note:
$18 million earmarked for Izzy, Encarnacion and Looper next season.
With the way Wainright pitched, some speculate Izzy could be traded. Looper is good but not worth the money coming to him (4.5 Mil '07, 5.5 Mil '08). Walt is also likely to dump Juan and eat some of his salary. Also possible that if he brings back all the above mentioned pitchers (Flores, Sosa, Hancock) and keep Suppan, which will allow Wainwright to stay in the pen (speculation he will be a starter next season) that Walt packages Izzy and Juan for a real left fielder (Duncan will start in RF next year).