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boutons_
10-02-2006, 09:29 PM
September 30, 2006

Museum Field Trip Deemed Too Revealing

By RALPH BLUMENTHAL (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/ralph_blumenthal/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

FRISCO, Tex., Sept. 28 — “Keep the ‘Art’ in ‘Smart’ and ‘Heart,’ ” Sydney McGee had posted on her Web site at Wilma Fisher Elementary School in this moneyed boomtown that is gobbling up the farm fields north of Dallas.

But Ms. McGee, 51, a popular art teacher with 28 years in the classroom, is out of a job after leading her fifth-grade classes last April through the Dallas Museum of Art. One of her students saw nude art in the museum, and after the child’s parent complained, the teacher was suspended.

Although the tour had been approved by the principal, and the 89 students were accompanied by 4 other teachers, at least 12 parents and a museum docent, Ms. McGee said, she was called to the principal the next day and “bashed.”

She later received a memorandum in which the principal, Nancy Lawson, wrote: “During a study trip that you planned for fifth graders, students were exposed to nude statues and other nude art representations.” It cited additional complaints, which Ms. McGee has challenged.

The school board suspended her with pay on Sept. 22.

In a newsletter e-mailed to parents this week, the principal and Rick Reedy, superintendent of the Frisco Independent School District, said that Ms. McGee had been denied transfer to another school in the district, that her annual contract would not be renewed and that a replacement had been interviewed.

The episode has dumbfounded and exasperated many in and out of this mushrooming exurb, where nearly two dozen new schools have been built in the last decade and computers outnumber students three to one.

A representative of the Texas State Teachers Association, which has sprung to Ms. McGee’s defense, calls it “the first ‘nudity-in-a-museum case’ we have seen.”

( but it will give lotsa of "original thinkers" ideas )

“Teachers get in trouble for a variety of reasons,” said the association’s general counsel, Kevin Lungwitz, “but I’ve never heard of a teacher getting in trouble for taking her kiddoes on an approved trip to an art museum.”

John R. Lane, director of the museum, said he had no information on why Ms. McGee had been disciplined.

“I think you can walk into the Dallas Museum of Art and see nothing that would cause concern,” Mr. Lane said.

Over the past decade, more than half a million students, including about a thousand from other Frisco schools, have toured the museum’s collection of 26,000 works spanning 5,000 years, he said, “without a single complaint.” One school recently did cancel a scheduled visit, he said. He did not have its name.

The uproar has swamped Frisco school switchboards and prompted some Dallas-area television stations to broadcast images of statues from the museum with areas of the anatomy blacked out.

Ms. Lawson and Mr. Reedy did not return calls. A spokeswoman for the school district referred questions to the school board’s lawyer, Randy Gibbs. Mr. Gibbs said, “there was a parent who complained, relating the complaint of a child,” but he said he did not know details.

In the May 18 memorandum to Ms. McGee, Ms. Lawson faulted her for not displaying enough student art and for “wearing flip-flops” to work; Ms. McGee said she was wearing Via Spiga brand sandals. In citing the students’ exposure to nude art, Ms. Lawson also said “time was not used wisely for learning during the trip,” adding that parents and teachers had complained and that Ms. McGee should have toured the route by herself first. But Ms. McGee said she did exactly that.

In the latest of several statements, the district contended that the trip had been poorly planned. But Mr. Gibbs, the district’s lawyer, acknowledged that Ms. Lawson had approved it.

“This is not about a field trip to a museum,” the principal and superintendent told parents in their e-mail message Wednesday, citing “performance concerns” and other criticisms of Ms. McGee’s work, which she disputes. “The timing of circumstances has allowed the teacher to wave that banner and it has played well in the media,” they wrote.

They took issue with Ms. McGee’s planning of the outing. “No teacher’s job status, however, would be jeopardized based on students’ incidental viewing of nude art,” they wrote.

Ms. McGee and her lawyer, Rogge Dunn, who are exploring legal action, say that her past job evaluations had been consistently superior until the museum trip and only turned negative afterward. They have copies of evaluations that bear out the assertion.

( a brutal hatchet job. Jesus must be smiling! :lol )

Retracing her route this week through the museum’s European and contemporary galleries, Ms. McGee passed the marble torso of a Greek youth from a funerary relief, circa 330 B.C.; its label reads, “his nude body has the radiant purity of an athlete in his prime.” She passed sculptor Auguste Rodin’s tormented “Shade;” Aristide Maillol’s “Flora,” with her clingy sheer garment; and Jean Arp’s “Star in a Dream.”

None, Ms. McGee said, seemed offensive.

“This is very painful and getting more so,” she said, her eyes moistening. “I’m so into art. I look at it for its value, what each civilization has left behind.”

School officials have not named the child who complained or any particular artwork at issue, although Ms. McGee said her puzzlement was compounded when Ms. Lawson referred at times to “an abstract nude sculpture.”

( aka, a cover-up. A coverup of a nude! get it? http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif )

Ms. McGee, a fifth-generation Texan who has a grown daughter, won a monthly teacher award in 2004 from a local newspaper. She said the loss of her $57,600-a-year job could jeopardize her mortgage and compound her health problems, including a heart ailment.

Some parents have come to Ms. McGee’s defense. Joan Grande said her 11-year-old daughter, Olivia, attended the museum tour.

“She enjoyed the day very much,” Ms. Grande said. “She did mention some nude art but she didn’t make a big deal of it and neither did I.” She said that if Ms. McGee’s job ratings were high before the incident, “something isn’t right” about the suspension.

Another parent, Maijken Kozcara, said Ms. McGee had taught her children effectively.

“I thought she was the greatest,” Ms. Kozcara said. But “knowing Texas, the way things work here” she said of the teacher’s suspension, “I wasn’t really amazed. I was like, ‘Yeah, right.’ ”

Spurminator
10-02-2006, 09:41 PM
Remember the Simpsons episode that made fun of the very idea that school parents would be offended by Michelangelo's "David"?

Sad when satirical fiction becomes reality.

01Snake
10-02-2006, 10:08 PM
Saw this last week. What a joke. The lady making a big deal of this makes me want to puke.

Zunni
10-02-2006, 10:09 PM
Fucking Hicks. If you're that fucking uptight, HOMESCHOOL.

Marklar MM
10-02-2006, 10:09 PM
Free education does wonders, doesn't it. :)

PixelPusher
10-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Cover your eyes, kids!

http://www.genderforum.uni-koeln.de/debattled/gifs/AshcroftStatues.jpg

01Snake
10-02-2006, 10:27 PM
Nice tits! :lol

boutons_
10-02-2006, 10:31 PM
28 years, $58k salary, an excellent career by all accounts, then poof!

"Ms. McGee had been denied transfer to another school in the district"

WTF? That's just incredibly mean. If you don't like her, get rid of her, but don't block her livelihood elswhere.

PixelPusher
10-02-2006, 10:34 PM
28 years, $58k salary, an excellent career by all accounts, then poof!

"Ms. McGee had been denied transfer to another school in the district"

WTF? That's just incredibly mean. If you don't like her, get rid of her, but don't block her livelihood elswhere.

"We don't want any of those museum field trip goin' teachers in OUR district!"

Phenomanul
10-02-2006, 10:44 PM
Sad and unjustified.... GOD created the human body. Maybe someone should let those uptight parents that they are doing more harm than good.


I do however, resent the thread title....

ChumpDumper
10-03-2006, 02:51 AM
Boobies are good.

Sincerely,

God

ATX Spur
10-03-2006, 03:29 AM
Museums rock!

boutons_
10-03-2006, 03:32 AM
In other Texas morality/culture news:

"Among the cases the justices declined to hear were a challenge to a Texas law that bans the sale of sex toys"

...

"In the Texas case, an employee of an adult bookstore in El Paso was arrested in 2003 for selling a sex toy to undercover police officers. He was charged under the Texas law that bans the sale of an "obscene device" designed primarily "for the stimulation of human genital organs." "

....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/02/AR2006100200319.html

RandomGuy
10-03-2006, 07:40 AM
:rolleyes

WWJLA

(What would Jesus look at?)

DFW Spurs
10-03-2006, 07:44 AM
Fucking Hicks. If you're that fucking uptight, HOMESCHOOL.

Have you ever been to Frisco? It’s far from a hick town... It near Dallas and is very expensive place to live. But yeah, it sucks she got fired. Shouldn't have happened. BTW don’t the parents have to sign a permission slip before they allow their kids to go on field trips? If they don't want their kids exposed to "nudity" at a museum, don't give them permission to go...

Mr. Peabody
10-03-2006, 08:48 AM
The article doesn't say anything about the complaining parent's religious leanings. It is possible to be conservative without being a "bible-thumper."

101A
10-03-2006, 08:56 AM
Where do you get that these are Christians complaining. I have read the piece (not exhaustively) and I don't think that is in there, B. Could be Muslims....

Spurminator
10-03-2006, 08:58 AM
Have you ever been to Frisco?

:lol For real.

boutons_
10-03-2006, 09:37 AM
There a several actors in this morality farce.

1. The 11-year old, hardly an independent operator but no small child robotically programmed by parents, although childhood programming can last many years.

2. "The child's parent" (one parent?).

3. The school board that began trashing McGee's 28-year-veteran performance only after the visit and then fired her.

In booming, wealthy ex-urb of north DFW like Frisco, what are the chances that any or all of the above are non-"Christians"?

What are the chances that they are Puritanical WASP born-again Bible-thumpers, evangelicals? The school board, bearing the most guiilt, is especially suspect to fit the "profile". :lol

I googled a bit for more details. In the honorable tradition of hiding the accuser while destroying the accused, the childs' and parent's anonymities have been preserved. So there's no info, yet, on the religious affiliation of the accusers, nor of the school board.

"If the profile fits, you must convict" :)

I never pass up a chance to hammer "Christians" :lol

Phenomanul
10-03-2006, 11:20 AM
I never pass up a chance to hammer "Christians" :lol



That you don't.... you just seemed to jump the gun a bit too quick on this one...

johnsmith
10-03-2006, 11:26 AM
"I never pass up a chance to hammer Christians".

There are two ways a cynic looks at religion, right or wrong. Did it happen, didn't it happen? Is there a God, is there not a God? Was Jesus resurrected, was he not? If the answer to all of these questions is yes, then Boutons, I don't envy what the after life has in store for you. If the answer is no, then you've lived your entire life being angry at a mass of human beings for believing in something that makes them happy and gives them hope. What a lonely life you must live..

Oh, and the lady that complained about all of this and got that teacher fired should not have signed a permission slip and she is what is wrong with America today.

George Gervin's Afro
10-03-2006, 12:13 PM
"I never pass up a chance to hammer Christians".

There are two ways a cynic looks at religion, right or wrong. Did it happen, didn't it happen? Is there a God, is there not a God? Was Jesus resurrected, was he not? If the answer to all of these questions is yes, then Boutons, I don't envy what the after life has in store for you. If the answer is no, then you've lived your entire life being angry at a mass of human beings for believing in something that makes them happy and gives them hope. What a lonely life you must live..

Oh, and the lady that complained about all of this and got that teacher fired should not have signed a permission slip and she is what is wrong with America today.


Being a christian myself I don't enjoy bashing christians. I do enjoy bashing those who use religion as a weapon and claim to be christians... I agree with John this chick is what is wrong about America.. there people on both fringes that do more harm than good..

Ya Vez
10-03-2006, 01:39 PM
I just hope there wasn't a bible or a scripture anywhere in the museum... The ACLU would be all over it...

boutons_
10-03-2006, 01:56 PM
ah yes, change the subject to ACLU bashing.

George Gervin's Afro
10-03-2006, 02:07 PM
I just hope there wasn't a bible or a scripture anywhere in the museum... The ACLU would be all over it...


And these are the folks on the left that do the Dems more harm than good..

Oh, Gee!!
10-03-2006, 02:25 PM
I just hope there wasn't a bible or a scripture anywhere in the museum... The ACLU would be all over it...

aren't museums private?

Drachen
10-03-2006, 02:32 PM
I guess I could take my school to court for repeatedly taking me to the McNay museum 10 years ago because I was constantly exposed to that painting, crap now I cant remember the name of the artist. All of her work is flowers that look like vaginas. SEE! It was so traumatic that it messed up my head and I cant remember anything from my teenage years except for vaginas!!!

Condemned 2 HelLA
10-03-2006, 02:35 PM
Does it say what kind of payday the parent is looking for to offset the cost of all the therapy the child will have to endure since he was so scarred by looking at this piece of art?
What a load of shit.
:flipoff

101A
10-03-2006, 02:42 PM
aren't museums private?

But the students were on a public school sponsored trip....(just trying to think ACLU-ish)

Mr. Peabody
10-03-2006, 02:54 PM
I guess I could take my school to court for repeatedly taking me to the McNay museum 10 years ago because I was constantly exposed to that painting, crap now I cant remember the name of the artist. All of her work is flowers that look like vaginas. SEE! It was so traumatic that it messed up my head and I cant remember anything from my teenage years except for vaginas!!!

It's Georgia O'Keefe. Here's one of her works

http://www.sammyleeft.nl/images/georgia%20o'keefe%20-%20ice%20cave.gif

Spurminator
10-03-2006, 02:59 PM
KORIIIIII... Peabody's posting dirty pictures.......

Mr. Peabody
10-03-2006, 03:05 PM
KORIIIIII... Peabody's posting dirty pictures.......

Because of the recent controversy surrounding my posting of allegedly "dirty pictures" I have decided to resign my position here at Spurstalk. Unlike some of the liberal posters here, I have decided to accept responsibility for my actions. I will also immediately check myself into rehab and deal with my alcoholism and latent homosexuality.

Oh, Gee!!
10-03-2006, 03:06 PM
sinner

Mr. Peabody
10-03-2006, 03:13 PM
sinner

Oh, Gee!!! I hate to tell you, but it’s not always pretty up here in Spurstalk. And there have been other scandals, as you know, that have been more than simply naughty jpegs.

clambake
10-03-2006, 03:34 PM
Can I have your booze?

Mr. Peabody
10-03-2006, 03:36 PM
Can I have your booze?
Are you a 16 year old page?

clambake
10-03-2006, 04:03 PM
For free booze, I'll be anything you want me to be.

maf54
10-03-2006, 04:31 PM
For free booze, I'll be anything you want me to be.

a/s/l?

pm me sometime

ChumpDumper
10-03-2006, 04:45 PM
That's enough.

Ocotillo
10-03-2006, 05:54 PM
It wasn't so much the museum trip that the parent objected to, it was the pit stop at the Lodge on the way back to school.

FromWayDowntown
10-03-2006, 07:22 PM
Because of the recent controversy surrounding my posting of allegedly "dirty pictures" I have decided to resign my position here at Spurstalk. Unlike some of the liberal posters here and the now-deposed Congressman Foley, I have decided to accept responsibility for my actions. I will also immediately check myself into rehab and deal with my alcoholism and latent homosexuality.

Fixed.

RandomGuy
10-03-2006, 09:46 PM
I will now post a picture of boobies.

http://www.nhptv.org/Natureworks/graphics/bluefootedbooby.jpg

:wow :wow :wow :wow :wow

Mr. Peabody
10-04-2006, 07:37 AM
I will now post a picture of boobies.

http://www.nhptv.org/Natureworks/graphics/bluefootedbooby.jpg

:wow :wow :wow :wow :wow
Wow, what a pair!

jman3000
10-04-2006, 01:28 PM
when i was in 5th grade my teacher would always talk about things that happened in his life with us. he told us when his wife had a miscarriage and explained what had happened and he even told us how his cat was almost killed because it had crawled up in the engine when he started his car (he even had pictures). you have to grow up sooner or later and shouldnt have to be coddled your whole life. i can't imagine what those parents are gonna tell that kid once they hit puberty.

johnsmith
10-04-2006, 01:53 PM
That's enough.


Oh dear God you are a loser.

johnsmith
10-04-2006, 01:54 PM
when i was in 5th grade my teacher would always talk about things that happened in his life with us. he told us when his wife had a miscarriage and explained what had happened and he even told us how his cat was almost killed because it had crawled up in the engine when he started his car (he even had pictures). you have to grow up sooner or later and shouldnt have to be coddled your whole life. i can't imagine what those parents are gonna tell that kid once they hit puberty.


Sounds like your 5th grade teacher was a fucking idiot.

Mr. Peabody
10-04-2006, 01:55 PM
Sounds like your 5th grade teacher was a fucking idiot.

:lmao