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Nbadan
10-18-2006, 04:11 PM
Iraqi-blogger, Riverbend's latest piece is up after 2 months of silence

The Lancet Study


This has been the longest time I have been away from blogging. There were several reasons for my disappearance the major one being the fact that every time I felt the urge to write about Iraq, about the situation, I'd be filled with a certain hopelessness that can't be put into words and that I suspect other Iraqis feel also.

It's very difficult at this point to connect to the internet and try to read the articles written by so-called specialists and analysts and politicians. They write about and discuss Iraq as I might write about the Ivory Coast or Cambodia- with a detachment and lack of sentiment that- I suppose- is meant to be impartial. Hearing American politicians is even worse. They fall between idiots like Bush- constantly and totally in denial, and opportunists who want to use the war and ensuing chaos to promote themselves.

The latest horror is the study published in the Lancet Journal concluding that over 600,000 Iraqis have been killed since the war. Reading about it left me with mixed feelings. On the one hand, it sounded like a reasonable figure. It wasn't at all surprising. On the other hand, I so wanted it to be wrong. But... who to believe? Who to believe....? American politicians... or highly reputable scientists using a reliable scientific survey technique?

The responses were typical- war supporters said the number was nonsense because, of course, who would want to admit that an action they so heartily supported led to the deaths of 600,000 people (even if they were just crazy Iraqis…)? Admitting a number like that would be the equivalent of admitting they had endorsed, say, a tsunami, or an earthquake with a magnitude of 9 on the Richter scale, or the occupation of a developing country by a ruthless superpower… oh wait- that one actually happened. Is the number really that preposterous? Thousands of Iraqis are dying every month- that is undeniable. And yes, they are dying as a direct result of the war and occupation (very few of them are actually dying of bliss, as war-supporters and Puppets would have you believe).

For American politicians and military personnel, playing dumb and talking about numbers of bodies in morgues and official statistics, etc, seems to be the latest tactic. But as any Iraqi knows, not every death is being reported. As for getting reliable numbers from the Ministry of Health or any other official Iraqi institution, that's about as probable as getting a coherent, grammatically correct sentence from George Bush- especially after the ministry was banned from giving out correct mortality numbers. So far, the only Iraqis I know pretending this number is outrageous are either out-of-touch Iraqis abroad who supported the war, or Iraqis inside of the country who are directly benefiting from the occupation ($) and likely living in the Green Zone.

The chaos and lack of proper facilities is resulting in people being buried without a trip to the morgue or the hospital. During American military attacks on cities like Samarra and Fallujah, victims were buried in their gardens or in mass graves in football fields. Or has that been forgotten already?

We literally do not know a single Iraqi family that has not seen the violent death of a first or second-degree relative these last three years. Abductions, militias, sectarian violence, revenge killings, assassinations, car-bombs, suicide bombers, American military strikes, Iraqi military raids, death squads, extremists, armed robberies, executions, detentions, secret prisons, torture, mysterious weapons – with so many different ways to die, is the number so far fetched?

There are Iraqi women who have not shed their black mourning robes since 2003 because each time the end of the proper mourning period comes around, some other relative dies and the countdown begins once again.

Let's pretend the 600,000+ number is all wrong and that the minimum is the correct number: nearly 400,000. Is that better? Prior to the war, the Bush administration kept claiming that Saddam killed 300,000 Iraqis over 24 years. After this latest report published in The Lancet, 300,000 is looking quite modest and tame. Congratulations Bush et al.

Everyone knows the 'official numbers' about Iraqi deaths as a direct result of the war and occupation are far less than reality (yes- even you war hawks know this, in your minuscule heart of hearts). This latest report is probably closer to the truth than anything that's been published yet. And what about American military deaths? When will someone do a study on the actual number of those? If the Bush administration is lying so vehemently about the number of dead Iraqis, one can only imagine the extent of lying about dead Americans…

Riverbend (http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/)

Life in Iraq grows bleaker by the day for normal Iraqis. Saddam may have killed 300,000 in three decades of ruthless rule, but in the name of liberation and spreading democracy, the U.S. has managed to double that number in just 3.

johnsmith
10-18-2006, 04:34 PM
Yes and since this is on an internet blog, it is obviously then written by who they say is writing it? Jesus Dan, for someone who believes so much in conspiracies, you sure as hell accept a lot of things as fact don't you?

xrayzebra
10-18-2006, 04:41 PM
Shouldn't this be posted on the roasting thread? Oh, I forgot it is about a
normal person.

Nbadan
10-18-2006, 04:43 PM
Funny how you can question the authenticity of a female blogger in Baghdad who has first-hand knowledge of the situation on the streets there before it is ever reported here, but you don't question the motives of a reporter who has a obvious hard-on for Harry Reid.

Why is that?

xrayzebra
10-18-2006, 04:45 PM
Cause it pisses you off......how bout that.

johnsmith
10-18-2006, 04:50 PM
A little bit about myself: I'm female, Iraqi and 24. I survived the war. That's all you need to know. It's all that matters these days anyway.

This is all this alleged female in Iraq has to say about herself. So again, if it's on the internet, it must be true.
:rolleyes

NASCARdad
10-18-2006, 04:50 PM
You are pathetic Dan! :cuss

101A
10-18-2006, 05:08 PM
My wife has a German pin-pal who lived in the U.S. for two year, has a Ph.D. in English AND teaches conversational English, as well as German, in France.

Here writing in English is not as good as this girl's.

clambake
10-18-2006, 06:04 PM
What I find interesting is that we can't even guarantee the safety of the green zone, let alone one city.

Our soldiers are fish in a barrel. They pick us off at will.

Our continued occupation has led many to fight back.

If we were surrounded by an occupying army, I'd dare say we would fight back and consider ourselves noble.

They would say "who cares how many are dead, they're just crazy americans".

spurster
10-18-2006, 07:51 PM
If anyone had reading comprehension, the blogger was saying that his/her anecdotal evidence was in line with Lancet journal article. So you have the scholarly point of view and the eyewitness point of view.

Personally, I find 600,000 hard to believe. If true, can we try BushCo for genocide?

Zunni
10-18-2006, 08:19 PM
Personally, I find 600,000 hard to believe. If true, can we try BushCo for genocide?
If it's only 10% of that, it's still 20X 9/11 casualties.

ChumpDumper
10-19-2006, 04:47 AM
Here writing in English is not as good as this girl's.Is it as good as yours?

DarkReign
10-19-2006, 08:49 AM
^pwnd

George Gervin's Afro
10-19-2006, 12:49 PM
A little bit about myself: I'm female, Iraqi and 24. I survived the war. That's all you need to know. It's all that matters these days anyway.

This is all this alleged female in Iraq has to say about herself. So again, if it's on the internet, it must be true. :rolleyes


will you explain that to yoni?

101A
10-19-2006, 01:00 PM
Is it as good as yours?



Her writing in English is not as good as this girl's.

There.


Bitch.