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AFE7FATMAN
10-21-2006, 03:16 AM
Not that the little peanut every had it to began with.

on Jimmy Carter: "He's 81 years old, and he's lost it"
On the October 18 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Bill O'Reilly

http://mediamatters.org/items/200610200016

baselessly claimed that former President Jimmy Carter "sympathiz[es] with Iran," and concluded of Carter: "He's 81 years old, and he's lost it." O'Reilly was referring to a recent statement by Carter in which he advocated that governments try to negotiate with their adversaries, arguing that "the best way to drive them toward more nuclear programs is to threaten them militarily." Carter then concluded from their point of view, Iran may have pursued a nuclear weapons program "to prevent the United States from taking military action" against them.

Yada, yada, yada, Sometimes BO overstates the known truth, I voted for this "Man" because I along with many others was sickened by Watergate.
just goes to prove that everbody mucks-up at least once. :lol
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Zunni
10-21-2006, 10:13 AM
"the best way to drive them toward more nuclear programs is to threaten them militarily."
Sounds like a pretty sharp 81 YO dude. That statement is 100% true. The funny thing about Carter is most Fundamentalists hate him, but he IS the Christian that they play on TV.

RobinsontoDuncan
10-21-2006, 11:59 AM
That seems to be the most legit statement i have heard on the issue i quite some time, I suppose to the less informed among us it would make little sense, but exactly how far have military threats and disengagement gotten the US with regard to North Korea and Iran?

boutons_
10-21-2006, 01:59 PM
quoting a supercilious rabble rouser like BO? GMAFB

Drachen
10-21-2006, 02:03 PM
Not that the little peanut every had it to began with.

on Jimmy Carter: "He's 81 years old, and he's lost it"
On the October 18 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Bill O'Reilly

http://mediamatters.org/items/200610200016

baselessly claimed that former President Jimmy Carter "sympathiz[es] with Iran," and concluded of Carter: "He's 81 years old, and he's lost it." O'Reilly was referring to a recent statement by Carter in which he advocated that governments try to negotiate with their adversaries, arguing that "the best way to drive them toward more nuclear programs is to threaten them militarily." Carter then concluded from their point of view, Iran may have pursued a nuclear weapons program "to prevent the United States from taking military action" against them.

Yada, yada, yada, Sometimes BO overstates the known truth, I voted for this "Man" because I along with many others was sickened by Watergate.
just goes to prove that everbody mucks-up at least once. :lol
http://livingroomcandidate.movingimage.us/style/index.php?nav_action=style&nav_subaction=104


JC lost what? The respect of BO, good riddance.

clambake
10-21-2006, 02:50 PM
BO is a sellout. Before his interview with Bush, he said he would not be asking any questions about the past, only the present.

Whats next BO? Are you going to interview O.J. about football?

Guru of Nothing
10-21-2006, 11:36 PM
Damn, Jimmy is 81 years old!

gtownspur
10-21-2006, 11:38 PM
That seems to be the most legit statement i have heard on the issue i quite some time, I suppose to the less informed among us it would make little sense, but exactly how far have military threats and disengagement gotten the US with regard to North Korea and Iran?


What millitary Threats?

01Snake
10-22-2006, 12:32 AM
What millitary Threats?

You didn't hear? Apparently just after Bush was elected we began threatening NK and they made the decision that they MUST have nuclear weapons to stop us!

ChumpDumper
10-22-2006, 04:45 AM
What millitary Threats?The "every option is on the table" rhetoric. Where have you guys been the past five years?

RandomGuy
10-23-2006, 09:55 AM
Jimmy Carter was the dry dock commander in charge of the first US nuclear submarine.

His job as a nuclear technician was to oversee, from the military's standpoint, the construction.

Say what you want about him, but I would be willing to hazard a guess that he is still sharper at 81 than W is, or will be.

Carter is also 100% correct about his assessment that US belicosity is driving Iran to think it needs nukular weapons to defend itself.

Bill O'Rielly is a total fucksickle for saying that Carter "sympathizes" with Iran, though. There is a huge difference between understanding something and sympathy, a subtlety that Bill seems not to be familiar with.

mikejones99
10-24-2006, 04:06 PM
bo stinks n should be in prison

T Park
10-25-2006, 02:05 PM
If anyone thinks, us being nicer to IRAN or NK, and just talking and be cool with them, will turn these wackos into overnight nice guys, they are most likely drinking their own bath water.

T Park
10-25-2006, 02:06 PM
bo stinks n should be in prison

What laws has he violated?

ChumpDumper
10-25-2006, 02:10 PM
If anyone thinks, us being nicer to IRAN or NK, and just talking and be cool with them, will turn these wackos into overnight nice guys, they are most likely drinking their own bath water.No one is harboring any illusions about these governments, but Bush wants to talk with NK, he just wants the other countries at the table at the same time. Is Bush drinking his own bath water?

T Park
10-25-2006, 02:14 PM
I don't see what that has to do with being "sympathetic" to Iran, who has stated over and over it wants to destroy us and Israel.
North Korea who now has said "South Korea will pay for siding against us"

I mean, yeah, lets totally kiss these guy's ass.

ChumpDumper
10-25-2006, 02:18 PM
I don't see what that has to do with being "sympathetic" to IranWhat does that mean? Sympathetic. I just need something concrete.
who has stated over and over it wants to destroy us and Israel.You know I've never really heard the current government say they want to destroy us -- Israel yes, but that's pretty standard rhetoric. I'll stand corrected if someone kicks up any quotes.
North Korea who now has said "South Korea will pay for siding against us"

I mean, yeah, lets totally kiss these guy's ass.So you are against Bush's six party talks?

T Park
10-25-2006, 02:48 PM
So you are against Bush's six party talks?


Why do I feel anything I say is wrong here..

Good lord.


Do I agree with em? Yes.

Give it a shot.

If he further acts like anut, wich more than likely will happen, then switch to plan B.

RandomGuy
10-25-2006, 02:50 PM
If anyone thinks, us being nicer to IRAN or NK, and just talking and be cool with them, will turn these wackos into overnight nice guys, they are most likely drinking their own bath water.


Nope.

Iran's government is dispised by its people. It uses the US as an excuse for its failures, just as Castro does, and using the USA as a scapegoat has kept him in power for longer than any other leader in modern history.

You want to really topple the Iranian government? Bend over backwards to be nice to the Iranian people, and show the f***ers for the liars and corrupt people they are.

Think outside the box, 'cause the current policies are failing and show no signs of becoming magically more effective in the next 50 years than they have for the last 50.

RandomGuy
10-25-2006, 02:53 PM
I don't see what that has to do with being "sympathetic" to Iran, who has stated over and over it wants to destroy us and Israel.
North Korea who now has said "South Korea will pay for siding against us"

I mean, yeah, lets totally kiss these guy's ass.

We ought to start carpet bombing them with big bags of rice labled "USA."

Let the dear leader explain THAT.

ChumpDumper
10-25-2006, 02:56 PM
Why do I feel anything I say is wrong here..

Good lord.


Do I agree with em? Yes.

Give it a shot.

If he further acts like anut, wich more than likely will happen, then switch to plan B.I'm just trying to get a line on what you really think. I personally think that not talking to NK plays into their paranoia and may make them more inclined to do things like accelerate their nuke program. I mean the last time we were able to inspect their nuke plants after negotiating with them they had frogs living in their cooling tank. That obviously changed after we completely cut them off.

T Park
10-25-2006, 03:02 PM
Nope.

Iran's government is dispised by its people. It uses the US as an excuse for its failures, just as Castro does, and using the USA as a scapegoat has kept him in power for longer than any other leader in modern history.

You want to really topple the Iranian government? Bend over backwards to be nice to the Iranian people, and show the f***ers for the liars and corrupt people they are.

Think outside the box, 'cause the current policies are failing and show no signs of becoming magically more effective in the next 50 years than they have for the last 50.

Thats exactly what I say and Glenn Beck.

Appeal to the Iran people. Send em Ipods and other western stuff wich they LOVE.

But, dont appeal to them and they willfinally say fuck it, President Tom (cant spell his name fuck him I aint gonna try) might be right, down with the infidels.

I agree also with the NK deal, drop em bags of Lays and Rice that say in Korean compliments of your white black other asian, screw it, its from america overthrow four eyes.

T Park
10-25-2006, 03:03 PM
I personally think that not talking to NK plays into their paranoia and may make them more inclined to do things like accelerate their nuke program

I personally think that talking to a wacko dictator bent on world destruction like this guy, does no good.

ChumpDumper
10-25-2006, 03:11 PM
I personally think that talking to a wacko dictator bent on world destruction like this guy, does no good.Do you really think he's bent on world destruction? I think he's bent on preserving his own power and at the very most maybe taking over the south. It's impossible for him to do the latter and near impossible to do the former.

As for Iran, they certainly want regional hegemony, and I think they would want that no matter who is in charge. That goes back to their rather glorious ancient past in the Persian empire. There is no doubt that many Iranians love America, but at the same time we have a history of screwing around with their internal affairs including overthrowing a democratically elected government (a flawed one, but still) and establishing a dictatorship there that helped to bring about the Islamic revolution in the 70s with all the dangers that has brought about.

T Park
10-25-2006, 03:13 PM
Do you really think he's bent on world destruction? I think he's bent on preserving his own power and at the very most maybe taking over the south.



Any whacky dictator with nukes is a bad one, yeah World destruction, him and Huge the asshole.

His power is starving his nation and he continues to threaten the lives of the south koreans.

clambake
10-25-2006, 03:45 PM
It sounds like you have moved to plan B without exploring or performing plan A to it's complete extent.

Exactly what is your plan B?

T Park
10-25-2006, 03:47 PM
Not my plan B, whoever is running the country's plan B. I dont protest to know all the answers.

I know if I was president right now, anything I do wouldn't be right according to everyone

clambake
10-25-2006, 04:00 PM
All you've said is what you wouldn't do.

So what's left?