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1Parker1
10-21-2006, 10:53 AM
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Allen Iverson's slashing and crashing has earned him a collection of individual awards that mean little each empty offseason. The 76ers guard is known as one of the best active NBA players without a championship.

At 31 and entering his 11th season, there is little reason to think this is the year he'll get that coveted ring. But the former MVP hasn't surrendered hope that he can bring a title back to Philadelphia.
"For 11 years, you know whatever squad I'm out there with, I have to believe in them and believe we can accomplish something," Iverson said after Thursday's practice. "The team is better than it was last year."

That is the voice of an optimist, not a realist, especially after the Sixers went 38-44 last season and missed the playoffs for the second time in three seasons. They made no significant roster moves and are picked by many to finish at the bottom of the Eastern Conference.

This season might be like the last few for Iverson - an All-Star berth, a run at the scoring title and no meaningful games to play in April, May and beyond.

While the Sixers failed to upgrade their roster, they hope something as simple as liking each other a little more will add up to a few more wins, maybe enough to sneak into the playoffs. Last season, some players took advantage of coach Maurice Cheeks' easygoing personality, others grumbled about their roles and the locker room discord affected their play.

"(It was) enough to get us off track, honestly," Iverson said. "I definitely won't get into it and the players involved in some of the things last year, but it wasn't together like it had been in the past and like we are right now."

Now they believe two weeks of training camp in Europe where the Sixers had no one else to see the sights or grab some food with but themselves has led to a tighter bunch of teammates. Some have talked about a team paintball excursion or maybe watching NFL games together. Others have stayed late in the gym for physical games of 1-on-1.

"For a while last year, I think with the losses and negativity, guys got down a little bit," forward Kyle Korver said. "When you have that mentality, it's harder to play basketball, it's harder to play good basketball."

With Iverson and Chris Webber pacing the offense, Philadelphia won't have much trouble scoring. But the Sixers were one of the worst defensive teams in the league last season and their frequent fourth-quarter collapses all but knocked them out of the postseason. Cheeks has already worked them harder and with more attention to detail on defense than he did in last year's training camp.

Not since Larry Brown led the Sixers to the NBA finals in 2001 have the Sixers stressed defensive accountability like this. Even Iverson is on board with the plan.

"It's going to take me sacrificing a lot of things on the defensive end as far as not gambling as much as I usually gamble and just always try and be in the right spots on defense," Iverson said. "The whole thing's going to start with me."

The whole thing in Philly always starts - and usually ends - with Iverson. Even though he heard his name in endless trade rumors in the offseason, Iverson says there's nowhere else he wants to be, no matter how far away the Sixers are from a championship.

"I always wanted to stay here because of the loyalty, but it's all I know," he said. "For me to go try and win a championship somewhere, if I ever did it, it would probably feel good if I was to contribute to it ... but it wouldn't feel the same as winning one here."



:depressed Damn, if only I had his optimism.

mavsfan1000
10-21-2006, 11:01 AM
Yeah no doubt. He isn't realistic though about his chances. This team has not gotten any better. They will be lucky to make the playoffs. Not even the Wade treatment will win a championship for him.

samikeyp
10-21-2006, 11:43 AM
All he has going for him is hope.

HeatOwnzNba
10-21-2006, 02:20 PM
Yeah no doubt. He isn't realistic though about his chances. This team has not gotten any better. They will be lucky to make the playoffs. Not even the Wade treatment will win a championship for him.

Haha, still not over it yet?

TDMVPDPOY
10-21-2006, 03:22 PM
too bad that hope belongs to the spurs :D

mavsfan1000
10-21-2006, 04:07 PM
Haha, still not over it yet?
I'm over it but I won't forget it just like I won't forget how Stern screwed over the Kings against the lakers a few years back. Fuck Stern.

himat
10-21-2006, 04:31 PM
Stern basically made it a game of superstars. Wade is more of a superstar than Dirk I guess because of the calls he got. Mavs didn't get screwed. Pistons got screwed. It didn't help that Flip didn't have everyones respect, but after not getting some calls the Pistons lost games to Miami and eventually their playoff collapse. The superstar thing has made the NBA worse. What I don't understand is why did Tim Duncan get no calls? Last time I checked he's been a Finals MVP, an MVP, a member of an all defensive team, and he's a 20 10 player.

mavsfan1000
10-21-2006, 04:49 PM
Stern basically made it a game of superstars. Wade is more of a superstar than Dirk I guess because of the calls he got. Mavs didn't get screwed. Pistons got screwed. It didn't help that Flip didn't have everyones respect, but after not getting some calls the Pistons lost games to Miami and eventually their playoff collapse. The superstar thing has made the NBA worse. What I don't understand is why did Tim Duncan get no calls? Last time I checked he's been a Finals MVP, an MVP, a member of an all defensive team, and he's a 20 10 player.
lmao. Wade got many more free throws against the mavs did the pistons. Pistons just were tired after the Cleveland series and couldn't find enough energy to beat the heat. Wade was treated more like a superstar but Dirk has never gotten the superstar treatment that he deserves. I think it has to with being European and Europeans are stereotyped of being soft.

1Parker1
10-21-2006, 05:13 PM
but Dirk has never gotten the superstar treatment that he deserves...

:lmao Check out the Spurs vs Mavs 2006 Semi-Conference Finals.

:rolleyes

HeatOwnzNba
10-21-2006, 10:31 PM
Would you people stop with the stupid "superstar treatment" crap already?
Wade got those calls because he actually was fouled be it a "ticky tack" foul or not and kudos to him for actually driving to the basket and not settling for jumpshots like the mavs.

ducks
10-21-2006, 10:33 PM
amare is going to be healthy and suns are going to trade him for webber?

mavsfan1000
10-21-2006, 11:10 PM
Would you people stop with the stupid "superstar treatment" crap already?
Wade got those calls because he actually was fouled be it a "ticky tack" foul or not and kudos to him for actually driving to the basket and not settling for jumpshots like the mavs.
Only Heat fans think this way. Most of America agrees with me in saying Wade got special treatment in the finals. I think Jordan is jealous of how many calls Wade got in the finals. It was pathetic to watch Wade take the record in the most free throws by an individual in NBA Finals history.

1Parker1
10-21-2006, 11:14 PM
Somebody whip out the violin. Quit hijacking my thread Mavsfan.

Back to AI...I'm still crossing my fingers for a miraculous trade that somehow brings KG to Philly for Webber, Korver, and any other scrub not initialed A.I.

That or the day Philly finally gets a real coach...Mo Cheeks sucks.

dirk4mvp
10-21-2006, 11:47 PM
Would you people stop with the stupid "superstar treatment" crap already?
Wade got those calls because he actually was fouled be it a "ticky tack" foul or not and kudos to him for actually driving to the basket and not settling for jumpshots like the mavs.


Congrats! You're the 84547658475485740580 Heat fan since June. Good job.

dirk4mvp
10-21-2006, 11:48 PM
Somebody whip out the violin. Quit hijacking my thread Mavsfan.

Back to AI...I'm still crossing my fingers for a miraculous trade that somehow brings KG to Philly for Webber, Korver, and any other scrub not initialed A.I.

That or the day Philly finally gets a real coach...Mo Cheeks sucks.


Iverson won't get back to the Finals.

himat
10-22-2006, 12:03 AM
lmao. Wade got many more free throws against the mavs did the pistons. Pistons just were tired after the Cleveland series and couldn't find enough energy to beat the heat. Wade was treated more like a superstar but Dirk has never gotten the superstar treatment that he deserves. I think it has to with being European and Europeans are stereotyped of being soft.

It shouldn't even be like that though. "Dirk didn't get the superstar treatment he deserved". That's bullshit. Great players used to earn what they got. It's pathetic. The game should just be played. It's not even basketball anymore it's a foul shot contest.

dirk4mvp
10-22-2006, 12:11 AM
It's not even basketball anymore it's a foul shot contest.


:tu

ALVAREZ6
10-22-2006, 05:46 PM
It shouldn't even be like that though. "Dirk didn't get the superstar treatment he deserved". That's bullshit. Great players used to earn what they got. It's pathetic. The game should just be played. It's not even basketball anymore it's a foul shot contest.
I agree 100%


NBA basketball sucks

trueD
10-23-2006, 10:25 AM
Webber's days are numbered, this is his last year in contract and Philly will be off the hook next June with some cap relief. But for this year, Web will be the highest paid player this year at 21 mil+. I'm guessing he sticks around after that to earn the vets minimum somewhere off the bench with a title contender. AI ought to think about doing the same thing when his contract is up which, does anyone know when that is?

samikeyp
10-23-2006, 12:09 PM
Only Heat fans think this way.


Bullshit.

Everytime Duncan was fouled, a Mavs fan would drop the "superstar treatment" card.