Fox News is doing it's part for GOP

[George Gervin's Afro]

It's good to se the fair and balanced network is living up to it's slogan
:lol
Insurgents Want Democrats to Win on November 7
Friday, October 27, 2006

By John Gibson

A couple days ago I wrote that if the Dems win, insurgents win.

That produced a huge amount of hate mail. A woman in L.A. can hardly wait for impeachment and she figures I should be on the impeachment list along with Bush and Cheney.

But look at the report today in The Sydney Morning Herald, which says that the Pentagon spokesman Eric Ruff "attributed the rising violence in Iraq to attempts by Al Qaeda to influence the U.S. elections and stir up opposition to President George W. Bush." Ruff stopped short of saying that Al Qaeda wanted a Democratic victory in the November 7 elections and denied emphatically that he was implying that, the paper said.

Eric Ruff probably saw all my hate mail for saying precisely that and decided to keep quiet. But he did quote an Al Qaeda leader, Abu Ayyub al-Masri, reported by the Washington Post to be ordering redoubled attacks "to have a great effect on the American elections."


Because Al Qaeda needs an American exit date in Iraq, and if the Democrats win, all indications are they will see to it that there is an exit date in Iraq.

I've gotten all sorts of e-mail saying yes we should get out because the killing will stop. It makes you wonder. Where would someone get that idea? If the Americans leave the Sunnis will be slaughtered.

Now, I sometimes wonder why we should be protecting Sunnis since they're the ones killing our troops. But we'd get blamed for the bloodbath even if we were gone and could not have pulled the triggers or dropped the bombs.

I stand corrected. The Sunnis will likely have their heads cut off. That's the preferred method of ethnic cleansing in Iraq.

So, I don't want to stay any longer than is necessary. But someone explain to me again how everything is going to be great in Iraq when the Americans pull out shortly after a Democrat victory?

I'm listening. In fact, I'm all ears.

That's My Word.

[Zunni]

This shit makes me laugh. al Qaeda is primarily a Sunni creation. Iraq is DOMINATED by Shi'ites. If we want al Qaeda out of Iraq, all we have to do is LEAVE. The Shia will definitely "take care of" what little al Qaeda may be there. :lol

[mikejones99]

Do black people actually watch and believe that shit on that channel? Gervin is black right?

[Ocotillo]

Riddle me this Foxman.........

Why should we base our vote on what "signals" al quada sends us on who they want to win the election? Or the insurgents who are a different bunch but I know, they all look alike.

Seriously, if they want to influence an American election surely they are smart enough to know if they are letting us know who they prefer, many here will vote the opposite. So wouldn't it be smart (for them) to signal they want someone to win, when they really want the opposite? You see where I am going?

You can make the argument either way and that is what Gibson is doing. Al Quada doesn't care who wins the election here, they will hate Democrats as much as they hate other Westerners whom aren't Muslim, or follow their belief system.

So if you base your vote on who you think al Quada wants to win, you are being played. And Gibson and other right wingers are playing you right now. Don't let them get away with it. You're smarter than that.

[xrayzebra]

^^Erhhhh, did UBL give an endorsement to the
dimm-o-craps before the last Presidential election. Yeah,
they want the Dimms in cause they know they win if
we cut and run like the dimm-o-craps say they will do
if elected.

[Ocotillo]

UBL is playing head games with you Ray. He wants you to think he is against Bush and supports the Democrats so you will vote for the Rs. That is what he wants you to do. The Rs will rubberstamp more of Bush's incompetence and UBL gets to keep his terrorist training ground and recruiting poster to enlist more jihadists against the West.

He doesn't give a damn whether it's Ds or Rs running Congress or sitting in the White House. UBL is the MVP for the Repbulicans because they conjure up this bogeyman every election cycle to flog that dead horse one more time in hopes that the average independent voter will tremble so much in the voting booth they will pull the switch for the R. God willing, it ain't happening this time.

Maybe we will start to get some accountability as to why UBL is even out there still making RNC commercials.

[xrayzebra]

^^Gee, how did they get him to tape that little talk he gave? Got to hand it to
Bush, he gets everything he wants. Even got UBL to use all the dimm-o-craps talking
points. You know like Saddam uses in his trial.

[George Gervin's Afro]

^^Erhhhh, did UBL give an endorsement to the
dimm-o-craps before the last Presidential election. Yeah,
they want the Dimms in cause they know they win if
we cut and run like the dimm-o-craps say they will do
if elected.


Well since things have been going so well in Iraq why would we need to consider all options? :rolleyes

[George Gervin's Afro]

UBL is playing head games with you Ray. He wants you to think he is against Bush and supports the Democrats so you will vote for the Rs. That is what he wants you to do. The Rs will rubberstamp more of Bush's incompetence and UBL gets to keep his terrorist training ground and recruiting poster to enlist more jihadists against the West.

He doesn't give a damn whether it's Ds or Rs running Congress or sitting in the White House. UBL is the MVP for the Repbulicans because they conjure up this bogeyman every election cycle to flog that dead horse one more time in hopes that the average independent voter will tremble so much in the voting booth they will pull the switch for the R. God willing, it ain't happening this time.

Maybe we will start to get some accountability as to why UBL is even out there still making RNC commercials.


Osama and Bush need eachother. Bush is the best recruiter Osama could ever dream of. Bush needs Osama in order to continually try and scare the American public into staying the failed course. The notion that an attack in the USA could influence an election is a valid one but only one party directly benefits from such an attack. The same party that claims to be superior in averting those attacks..

[xrayzebra]

Osama and Bush need eachother. Bush is the best recruiter Osama could ever dream of. Bush needs Osama in order to continually try and scare the American public into staying the failed course. The notion that an attack in the USA could influence an election is a valid one but only one party directly benefits from such an attack. The same party that claims to be superior in averting those attacks..

Gee George, your brilliance overwhelms me. On one hand Bush is so
stupid he cant find his way to office most days and on the other he is
so good at causing terrorist to pop out of the woodwork. And he is
not averting attacks in our country. I wonder why the terrorist are stepping
up attacks in Iraq. I wonder why they think they can influence an
election? Could it be Spain?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Gee George, your brilliance overwhelms me. On one hand Bush is so
stupid he cant find his way to office most days and on the other he is
so good at causing terrorist to pop out of the woodwork. And he is
not averting attacks in our country. I wonder why the terrorist are stepping
up attacks in Iraq. I wonder why they think they can influence an
election? Could it be Spain?


Here's a few thoughts


So Ray your ok with using our troops as target practice. With that kind of support from people like you Ray our GIs don't need a foreign enemy.

Please don't play stupid ray..Since Bush's reasons for the unecessary war have crumbled the Musilsms on the fence have decided to listen to the radicals. There are many folks out in the muslim world that didn't trust the USA prior to invading a muslim country but they sure as hell hate us now. What I am trying to show ray is that these are complex issues with many grey areas but you choose to "stay the talking points" open your eyes man!

Maybe the Spaniards voted the bums out of office for foolishly following Bush into an unecessary war? I know you drink the talk show kool aid ray but try and broaden your news sources.

[xrayzebra]

You know your and others argument that Bush took us into an unnecessary war
argument, sure does get old. Can you recall that the issue and intelligence was
debated in both houses of Congress? That did occur, did it not? Do you recall
some of the dimm-o-craps most learned leaders bloviating about how we must
do something about Iraq? No, well do a little googling and you can find about hump-
teen hundred quotes. They, both houses of Congress, gave their approval and
blessings for "The Bush" war.

We have no choice but to stay in Iraq. That is a fact. Unless you want to
happen there like what happened in Viet Nam. The sad fact is we have some
of the same Viet Nam crowd doing the same to Iraq. Viet Nam was their
badge of honor, all except Kerry, he threw his or someone's over the Whitehouse
fence. The great wounded war veteran.

And I do listen to Rush, maybe you should to. He spouts his ideas, which I
accept or reject, it is my choice, but I also note that he uses much written
material to make his points. He also points out the the Gods have clay feet.
On both sides of the aisle. He makes no bones about what side of the issue
he is on. Just like myself and others do. That isn't a crime you know. It is
more than I can say for some in our "popular" news media. Or some of our
so called "hollywood" crowd. Maybe you are a little jealous since he has about
19 million listeners daily.

So if you don't mind, I will stick with my routine and reading habits and keep
putting forth my views, like you.

[ChumpDumper]

You know your and others argument that Bush took us into an unnecessary war
argument, sure does get old.Being right never gets old.
Can you recall that the issue and intelligence was debated in both houses of Congress?Whose intelligence? The lies fed to us by Chalabi and "Curveball"?
Do you recall some of the dimm-o-craps most learned leaders bloviating about how we must do something about Iraq? No, well do a little googling and you can find about hump-teen hundred quotes. They, both houses of Congress, gave their approval and blessings for "The Bush" war.They were just as stupid, but it wasn't their bright idea. This is Bush's War -- he asked for it, now your blaming others for that?
We have no choice but to stay in Iraq. That is a fact. Unless you want to happen there like what happened in Viet Nam.Nah, it'll be more like Sudan -- but we never went there, did we?
Maybe you are a little jealous since he has about 19 million listeners daily.Maybe you are a little jealous of the Hollywood crowd because they have more money and power than Rush and don't have to charter a jet to the Dominican Republic to get laid.

[xrayzebra]

^^As usual you wont admit to the facts. Just keeping blowing the same old
smoke.

[ChumpDumper]

What facts? A bunch of cowardly, poll-reading Democrats voted for the use of force after reviewing a bunch of bad intel? Are we in Sudan now and I didn't notice? Did another country not make a nukular bomb while Dick Cheney was personally directing a snipe hunt for nukular bombs that never existed in Iraq by satellite phone? Tell me what I missed here.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

"Fox news doing its part for GOP" ...

Do you know the difference between news and commentary?

Do you understand that this is commentary, not news, and is labeled as such?

It's an opinion piece. Get over it. This is not opinion labeled as news, which you can find plenty of.

[nkdlunch]

scare tactics worked in the dark ages. let's see if they still work today.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

UBL is playing head games with you Ray. He wants you to think he is against Bush and supports the Democrats so you will vote for the Rs. That is what he wants you to do. The Rs will rubberstamp more of Bush's incompetence and UBL gets to keep his terrorist training ground and recruiting poster to enlist more jihadists against the West.

He doesn't give a damn whether it's Ds or Rs running Congress or sitting in the White House. UBL is the MVP for the Repbulicans because they conjure up this bogeyman every election cycle to flog that dead horse one more time in hopes that the average independent voter will tremble so much in the voting booth they will pull the switch for the R. God willing, it ain't happening this time.

Maybe we will start to get some accountability as to why UBL is even out there still making RNC commercials.

They aren't that smart or devious. Their primary world-view is that the USA is weak and will not persist in the face of soldiers being killed and terrorist acts. Their objective is to get the USA to withdraw, just like it did in Vietnam, Somalia, and Kosovo. They know very well that a Democratic government will do that a lot faster than a Republican one, and inflict less pain on them. Once the USA is out, they will have much greater freedom to operate.

It's not hard to figure this out, you just have to read what they actually say and watch what they actually do, rather than listening to political spin.

[temujin]

Gee George, your brilliance overwhelms me. On one hand Bush is so
stupid he cant find his way to office most days and on the other he is
so good at causing terrorist to pop out of the woodwork. And he is
not averting attacks in our country. I wonder why the terrorist are stepping
up attacks in Iraq. I wonder why they think they can influence an
election? Could it be Spain?

They did that.
Interior Ministry of Aznar blamed the Basques for Madrid's attack.
Got booted.

You can only be as idiot as your enemy.

[temujin]

scare tactics worked in the dark ages. let's see if they still work today.

The Scare Ministry always rules.
Ever.