It's Done!! Our Newest Spur: James White

[Mr. Body]

Draft Express (http://www.draftexpress.com/blogs.php?blogid=3)

Two year deal.

[LilMissSPURfect]

awesome!!

[dougp]

Let's hope this one works out ... that dunk video was sick.

[usckk]

Wow. Great!

[Brutalis]

I wonder how real it is.

[whottt]

Fucking sweet...

Going to go post this on some LakerBoards since they were also wanting White...they are way too happy right now for my tastes.

2 year deal, if it's a RFA deal, means there is virtually no way we lose White if he pans out...

[Kori Ellis]

Not a good source, but hopefully it's true -- let me go try to find out.

[cornbread]

An athletic youthful pick up? I don't believe it!

[Mavs<Spurs]

This offseason now is beginning to look like an unqualified success and one of the best we have had in a long time.

[Mr. Body]

Draft Express is more solid than most. They're no hoopsworld for dumping rumors, but yeah, it's good to take with a grain of salt. DX has a reputation for credibility to live up to.

[Kori Ellis]

Draft Express is more solid than most. They're no hoopsworld, but yeah. DX has a reputation for credibility.

It's solid most of the time. Givony has been in major trouble in the past for printing lies however.

[Mr. Body]

It's solid most of the time. Givony has been in major trouble in the past for printing lies however.

There was the one time an agent got upset with him for reporting on a draft workout. As far as I know, it was a strongarm technique with nothing behind it.

But we could use other sources, of course.

[drivanroca]

Draft Express (http://www.draftexpress.com/blogs.php?blogid=3)

Two year deal.
:tu

[TDMVPDPOY]

get ready for the slam dunk champion banners :D:D

so what number will he wear?

[Kori Ellis]

It's official:

SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs announced today that they have signed James White. Per team policy, terms of the deals were not disclosed.

White, a 6-7 guard/forward, was most recently in training camp with the Indiana Pacers. In 8 preseason games with Indiana he averaged 3.8 points and 2.0 rebounds in 17.5 minutes of action. White also averaged 12.5 points with Indiana’s entry to the Pepsi Pro Summer League in Orlando. Selected with 31st overall pick in the 2006 NBA Draft by the Portland Trail Blazers, White was traded to the Pacers in a draft night deal.

White attended the University of Cincinnati where he led the Bearcats in scoring (16.3) and free throw percentage (.838) during the 2005-06 season. An honorable mention All-Big East selection, he finished second on the Bearcats in steals (1.2), assists (2.0) and blocks (0.9) and third in rebounding (5.1) on the year. White scored a career-high 32 points, including a career-high five three-pointers, in a Big East Tourney loss to Syracuse on 3/8.

The Spurs roster stands at 15.

[leemajors]

awesome.

[davi78239]

Yes!!!!!!!

[SupaManu]

Sweeeeeet!!!! I wanted this guy on draft night, great signing.

[2Cleva]

Good pickup for the Spurs.

Some Laker fans were moaning that LA didn't get him but if I'm White's agent, SA is a great spot. He goes to a vet team without a lot of athleticism where he gets a chance to make an impact at the 2/3. In LA, he wouldn't have a shot at the rotation and would be low on the development chart.

Again, good move for the Spurs. And no doubt he'll be the Dunk Champ. I was telling people last year that White would have won it then, and people had jokes until they saw the clips.

[timvp]

After all these years and it finally happens :elephant

Oh and it's going to be cool to have the NBA slam dunk champion wearing a Spurs uni.

[SenorSpur]

Yippie "fucking" Yea!

The long-awaited understudy has arrived.

What a happy day!

[lefty]

:flag:

[Mr. Body]

Collectively, GMs around the league go, "Damn it!"

Money for nothing and picks for free.

[SupaManu]

Man im excited about this signing.

[Mavs<Spurs]

It's official:

SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs announced today that they have signed James White. Per team policy, terms of the deals were not disclosed.

White, a 6-7 guard/forward, was most recently in training camp with the Indiana Pacers. In 8 preseason games with Indiana he averaged 3.8 points and 2.0 rebounds in 17.5 minutes of action. White also averaged 12.5 points with Indiana’s entry to the Pepsi Pro Summer League in Orlando. Selected with 31st overall pick in the 2006 NBA Draft by the Portland Trail Blazers, White was traded to the Pacers in a draft night deal.

White attended the University of Cincinnati where he led the Bearcats in scoring (16.3) and free throw percentage (.838) during the 2005-06 season. An honorable mention All-Big East selection, he finished second on the Bearcats in steals (1.2), assists (2.0) and blocks (0.9) and third in rebounding (5.1) on the year. White scored a career-high 32 points, including a career-high five three-pointers, in a Big East Tourney loss to Syracuse on 3/8.

The Spurs roster stands at 15.


Okay, so it appears that many people consider him the long athletic 3 to guard on the wing that we needed. So, how does this help us? Against whom? Who are players he could help slow down?
Since Bowen is up there in age, I think that there might be more time for him than I previously thought (as did other posters).

Where do we stand now? How much of a contribution do we expect? How many minutes should he get?

Lots of questions, but from what people here have said, I am excited about this pickup. And Elson was amazing last night.

You can't teach athleticism. With Parker, Elson, Manu, and now White, we seem to have some good athletes on our team.

I hope that we give him minutes.

[whottt]

After all these years and it finally happens :elephant

Oh and it's going to be cool to have the NBA slam dunk champion wearing a Spurs uni.


Werd...

It's also going to be cool to put to rest the myth that a White man can't jump. :fro

[jman3000]

:downspin:

[nkdlunch]

i don't get it. why did indiana let him go?

[spurtime]

i don't get it. why did indiana let him go?

Too many guys at the swing spots and they were really high on Josh Powell and Rawle Marshall...They had a logjam. Since he was a 2nd round pick the amount of guaranteed money was minimal.

[Mavs<Spurs]

i don't get it. why did indiana let him go?

Why did the Nuggets let Elson go?
Why did NY let Butler go?
Why did Jordan get drafted third?

[timvp]

i don't get it. why did indiana let him go?

Roster crunch. 16 guaranteed contracts. White was probably the player on the roster that helped them the least to win this season. The Pacers already have 6-7 wings in front of him.

Rick Carlisle was literally crying when they let him go, so it's not like they wanted to waive him.

[T Park]

The long three that was looked for is found.


Offseason and front office geniuses again?

Just curious what the prevailing winds say.

[Samr]

Cuban should be sweating. Because now that we have White, come the playoffs (which should be enough time to develop).....

White goes on Howard, which clears room for.....
Bowen on Dirk, which means.....
Elson and Duncan have their hands free

Scared much?

[T Park]

Rick Carlisle was literally crying when they let him go, so it's not like they wanted to waive him.

Suck it carlisle.

Suck it long, and suck it hard. (seanconnery accent)

[T Park]

I don't know how much White produces this year.

Prob will go with Butler on the training program.

But now you have White, Butler, Parker, ALL under the age of 25.

:smokin

[td4mvp3]

what's the big deal about this guy? folks are going apey and i saw the clip of the dunk and it was cool and all, but his stats don't point to anything spectacular and nor does his draft number. who is he on par with?

[Samr]

Just curious what the prevailing winds say.


The prevailing winds say it's a great day to go sailing.

Boat, of course, provided courtesy of Indiana.

[Mr. Body]

Sad for Indiana and Carlisle. That sucks for them, it really does.

But...

:ihit :downspin:

[T Park]

IMO tbhis also frees up trading Brent Barry for picks.

What the heck.

Williams fills his spot, White fills William's spot.


Be rid of some dead weight, get a pick or two, and let the kid get some PT.

[jman3000]

Bowen on Dirk, which means.....

no thanks.

[MajorMike]

Do you think we had an early pickup in mind when we went down to 14?

[101A]

who is he on par with?

From what I've read...Bruce Bowen (eventually), with hops.

[Samr]

But now you have White, Butler, Parker, ALL under the age of 25

Suffice to say, the Spurs have a new, young Big Three come a few more years. Move Duncan into a more Robinson-esque role as he starts to age. Formula look familiar?

[Mr. Body]

what's the big deal about this guy? folks are going apey and i saw the clip of the dunk and it was cool and all, but his stats don't point to anything spectacular and nor does his draft number. who is he on par with?

His athleticism is through the roof. He has good height for a SF, if not great. He needs to put on weight. He has a decent jump shot and good handles, shoots free throws very well. He's known for being a defender and a potential lockdown defender. He has a good attitude and is a solid worker.

That said, he's a project and may not work out for a while. May not ever work out. He his a plateau in college - perhaps due to coaching shuffles - and there are suggestions he doesn't have the highest basketball IQ.

[td4mvp3]

From what I've read...Bruce Bowen (eventually), with hops.
i mean as of right now. i don't think he's in bowen's league defensively for the nba, otherwise he'd be kept by someone or drafted higher. or maybe i'm just talking out of my tail. but who, among say the draft that just went down, would he stack up to?

[Mr. Body]

IMO tbhis also frees up trading Brent Barry for picks.

What the heck.

I wonder if Barry not playing yesterday meant anything.

Nah.

[timvp]

Do you think we had an early pickup in mind when we went down to 14?

Perhaps but tough to tell. The Spurs didn't know James White was getting released when they made their cuts. They were probably hoping a long three somewhere would be available, but were probably shocked when it turned out to be the guy they wanted at draft time.

[Mr. Body]

Perhaps but tough to tell. The Spurs didn't know James White was getting released when they made their cuts. They were probably hoping a long three somewhere would be available, but were probably shocked when it turned out to be the guy they wanted at draft time.

I'm pretty sure they made the cuts knowing either Rawle Marshall or James White was going to get cut. If you took a look at the Indiana situation, it was nearly inevitable -- and they thought the risk was clearly one to make.

IMO, this is exactly what they did. (I think they actually thought they were going to get Marshall but were pleased to see White.)

[whottt]

His athleticism is through the roof. He has good height for a SF, if not great..

Not if he's 6'7 he doesn't...SF's don't get much smaller than that in the NBA these days...Bruce is undersized for the position IMO, he's just able to do it because he's Bruce.

[timvp]

I'm pretty sure they made the cuts knowing either Rawle Marshall or James White was going to get cut. If you took a look at the Indiana situation, it was nearly inevitable -- and they thought the risk was clearly one to make.

IMO, this is exactly what they did. (I think they actually thought they were going to get Marshall.)

The Spurs could have been hoping, but there was also a chance they cut Maceo Baston, Orien Greene or find a taker for Sarunas Jasikevicius or Stephen Jackson.

Plus, Marshall doesn't get through waivers.

[whottt]

I don't think what Bowen does on D can be taught, it's 90% desire and nothing more...but this guy is supposed to be a very skilled perimeter defender.

[K-State Spur]

Barry just doesn't match up with any of the Mavs defensively. Even with the Mavs hitting their shots early - they were hitting shots. I don't think Pop wanted to put Barry in and start seeing lay-ups.

Barry may be out of the regular rotation and only play in favorable match-ups at this point. Or maybe I am reading too much into one game...

[Kori Ellis]

Not if he's 6'7 he doesn't...SF's don't get much smaller than that in the NBA these days...Bruce is undersized for the position IMO, he's just able to do it because he's Bruce.

When you touch the top of the backboard, height is a little less important.

[ca®lo]

Fucking Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

The 5 of Parker Manu White Duncan and Elson would be so fuc*ing sweet. offensively that is.

Cant wait to see white in action!!!! Been waiting for this atheletic type of player to go to the spurs for years!

[whottt]

When you touch the top of the backboard, height is a little less important.


Agree...but that doesn't change the fact that 6'7 is not great height for a SF. Great Height for a SF these days is 6'10-6'11.

[ca®lo]

"and is hailed for his potential to be a defensive stopper"

sounds good to me :)

makes losing j.r. smith last year almost a fiction.

[jmard5]

what's the big deal about this guy? folks are going apey and i saw the clip of the dunk and it was cool and all, but his stats don't point to anything spectacular and nor does his draft number. who is he on par with?

Well, if he is going to be groomed like the next Bowen, then there is really no need to worry about stats.

[Mavs<Spurs]

When you touch the top of the backboard, height is a little less important.


So, what do you think, Kori?

Will he get minutes?
Who would he guard?
Potential?

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs could have been hoping, but there was also a chance they cut Maceo Baston, Orien Greene or find a taker for Sarunas Jasikevicius or Stephen Jackson.

Plus, Marshall doesn't get through waivers.

If White gets through waivers, Marshall does, too. There weren't that many teams with roster spots available and none obviously needing him.

It wasn't guaranteed, but they must have thought: Orien Greene defends better than their first two PGs, Tinsley is injury prone, and Saras has troubles with the NBA speed -- they already had said he wasn't going anywhere. Maceo Baston has game experience and is insurance for often-injured J O'Neal, Foster and erratic Harrison. They'd likely keep Powell. It was likely no one would trade for Saras or SJax - their contracts are bad (the Pacers probably gave the Spurs a call on these guys).

With three young SFs deep behind Granger, Marquis Daniels, SJax (as a 3), etc., it was highly likely Marshall/White is available.

Anyway, not to say they ever thought it was 100%, but it was worth saying goodbye to Melvin Sanders for the shot at it. Just saying they must have had this scenario in mind.

[timvp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnDhL-a0v8

He's already a top five dunker of all-time before he even steps on an NBA court.

[Kori Ellis]

So, what do you think, Kori?

Will he get minutes?
Who would he guard?
Potential?

Pop might throw him some minutes here and there. He could probably work himself ahead of Barry (who didn't play yesterday) in the rotation. If he works hard, he has the physical talent to become a Bruce Bowen type defender in the future.

[T Park]

Spurs have a playa in the dunk contest.

First time since Cadillac Anderson in the late 80s?


I remember Sean Elliott was gonna do it one year, but got hurt right before.

[timvp]

If White gets through waivers, Marshall does, too. There weren't that many teams with roster spots available and none obviously needing him.

White got through waivers because his first two seasons were fully guaranteed. If a team picked him up, they'd be on the hook for over $1M. Marshall had an ungauranteed contract for the rest of this season.

[T Park]

That SOB's foot was like 5 inches behind the FT line on that one dunk....

Whoa...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well I guess all the folks in meltdown when we cut Melvin Sanders owe a certain "cheap" owner an apology.

[T Park]

How old is White, about 20? 21?

[T Park]

owe a certain "cheap" owner an apology.


Where is Mr. Cryant at?

Holt the cheap Bastard let em sign a 15th bguy, and a 2 year contract on top of it.

[Mr. Body]

White got through waivers because his first two seasons were fully guaranteed. If a team picked him up, they'd be on the hook for over $1M. Marshall had an ungauranteed contract for the rest of this season.

I still don't know who takes him. Maybe someone makes a cut, I don't know, but with Jalen Rose coming on the market, it would take someone like Phoenix or Detroit off the market.

But we're not arguing here. San Antonio jumped on a fantastic opportunity, plain and simple.

[Kori Ellis]

How old is White, about 20? 21?

24, he was in college five years. He transferred and had to sit out a year.

[Mr. Body]

How old is White, about 20? 21?

He was a 5th year senior, due to a transfer from Florida. He's 24 already. As a rookie, older than Butler.

[T Park]

24?

Hmmm...... Puts a slight damper on things. But oh well. Still the young, long elusive SF that we have been opining for for years now.

[T Park]

The things that jump out other than his freakish athleticism are one other thing.

Defensive stopper.


If hes considered that now, and after Bowen gets a hold of him?


Could we be looking at the perfect storm?

Good shooting coach in England to help his form. Great influences in Duncan, and Finley.


Perfect situation it sounds like for this guy.

[Kori Ellis]

24?

Hmmm...... Puts a slight damper on things. But oh well. Still the young, long elusive SF that we have been opining for for years now.

Why does it put a damper on things? He just got out of college.

[jman3000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnDhL-a0v8

He's already a top five dunker of all-time before he even steps on an NBA court.
jesus christos.

[polandprzem]

I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EVEN T PARK

:elephant

[Mavs<Spurs]

When you touch the top of the backboard, height is a little less important.


When you can touch the top of the backboard, you can probably put some points up on the board also.

:clap

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Agree...but that doesn't change the fact that 6'7 is not great height for a SF. Great Height for a SF these days is 6'10-6'11.

The guy has done a between his legs dunk from the FT line, and you're bitching about 3 inches in height? Let it go.

I don't get why people are bummed about his age.

Look at the 'future' core of the Spurs (post-Duncan):

Jackie Butler 21
James White 24
Tony Parker 24
Beno 24
Ian is what, 19?

[T Park]

Flight (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=71)

Looks promising on the predraft bio.


Like the work ethic. The mental toughness is slightly worrisome.

[mcdunk]

Very nice pickup. This addition could end up making up for the disappointing offseason.

[easjer]

Those dunks are fucking sick. Damn this is fanstastic news.

[Mr. Body]

He is incredibly skinny. Rails for arms.

He does not dunk in traffic. At least according to reports.

In preseason, he had trouble fouling perimeter players with his hands. He'll need to use his feet more.

Those are downsides. He'll pay off down the line.

NOT BAD FOR FREE.

[T Park]

I don't get why people are bummed about his age.

Look at the 'future' core of the Spurs (post-Duncan):

Jackie Butler 21
James White 24
Tony Parker 24
Beno 24
Ian is what, 19?


I shouldn't say bummed, that was my fault I apologize.

I had in my head that this kid was an early entry 20 year old, and raw freakish long SF.


But I agree, the core and future does look better.

Include in there Sanikidze who is what, 20 also?

Thats suhweet :)

[Kori Ellis]

The guy has done a between his legs dunk from the FT line, and you're bitching about 3 inches in height? Let it go.

I don't get why people are bummed about his age.

Look at the 'future' core of the Spurs (post-Duncan):

Jackie Butler 21
James White 24
Tony Parker 24
Beno 24
Ian is what, 19?

I didn't get being bummed about the age either. People bitch that players don't stay in college, then he does and people think he's old. :lol He just turned 24, 2 weeks ago.

[T Park]

This addition could end up making up for the disappointing offseason.

After last night with Elson, the potential of Butler, and getting rid of the dead weight, you STILL thought it was dissapointing?

God you people are insufferable.

[whottt]

The guy has done a between his legs dunk from the FT line, and you're bitching about 3 inches in height? Let it go.
?


Who is bitching? And where have I been critical of the signing...Just saying that 6'7 is not fucking great height for a SF...and it isn't.

So let what go...that 6'7 isn't great height for a SF?

Ok, at 6'7 he's going to tower over the other SF's in the NBA and make them look like Earl Boykins.

Happy now?


And since I'm feeling generous...the Aggies don't suck and will beat UT this year.

Ok, the last flight off of planet stupid is leaving now...gotta go, see ya.

[T Park]

Ok, the last flight off of planet stupid is leaving now...gotta go, see ya.



Isn't there a probation officer that says no travel out of that planet due to the blind support of Brent Barry? :spin

[ca®lo]

After last night with Elson, the potential of Butler, and getting rid of the dead weight, you STILL thought it was dissapointing?

God you people are insufferable.

make that spoiled.

[whottt]

Isn't there a probation officer that says no travel out of that planet due to the blind support of Brent Barry? :spin


I hear he's out enforcing all the I won't post for a year warrants that were issued to retards the year BRENT BARRY was our back up guard rotation and we won a championship.

If I were you...well, post less, hide more.

[easjer]

He's 24, which means in 4 years he'll be old! And he'll need at least a year to settle in!

The sky is falling! AhhhhhhhhhhHH!

Nah, j/k.

[Mr. Body]

According to DraftExpress...

Best Case Scenario: Andre Iguodala
Worst Case Scenario: Qyntel Woods

[Borosai]

I'm so happy in the pants, it's not funny.

And I'm still going to stuff my face with strawberry ice cream and bananas...because I'm feeling so warm inside.

Be right back...

[Joepa]

Dude....

I'm so excited. And I just can't hide it. I'm about to lose control and I think I like it.

[RC's Boss]

:wakeup told you I was working on it.

[ChumpDumper]

Good stuff. He won't play this season.

[LilMissSPURfect]

I'm so happy in the pants, it's not funny.

And I'm still going to stuff my face with strawberry ice cream and bananas...because I'm feeling so warm inside.

Be right back...

:oink Its what I'm talking bout!!!!! :oink :toast :toast :hungry: :hungry:

[Dro210]

I'm so happy, I can't even describe it? Anybody feel like celebrating this? Cause I do.

:clap :drunk :downspin: :flag:

[whottt]

He won't play this season.

And?

[AFBlue]

i mean as of right now. i don't think he's in bowen's league defensively for the nba, otherwise he'd be kept by someone or drafted higher. or maybe i'm just talking out of my tail. but who, among say the draft that just went down, would he stack up to?


Josh Howard was known as a defensive-minded player and he lasted to the 29th pick. Just because someone doesn't go in the lottery, doesn't mean they don't have potential or upside.

Sure this kid has negatives (too skinny, inconsistent shot), but he's going to a place where he'll have time to develop and as we've seen, the Spurs are pretty good at developing young talent (TP and now JB).

Personally I'd like to see this kid in action before I annoint him the answer to all our prayers. As was stated before, his career numbers are not that impressive, but I am excited about his potential.

Good Job Spurs FO!

[T Park]

I hear he's out enforcing all the I won't post for a year warrants that were issued to retards the year BRENT BARRY was our back up guard rotation and we won a championship.

If I were you...well, post less, hide more.

No thanks.

BTW Brent came off the bench as the main guard last year and sucked ass again.


So whats the dealy there?


Keep holding onto strands though :)



Good stuff. He won't play this season.

I disagree.

[picnroll]

Isn't he a Jackie Butler style project? Nice to have a couple of those on the shelve but he won't be seeing anything but IR on Austin I'm assuming.

[ChumpDumper]

And?And nothing. Nice to have him for the future.

[timvp]

I don't think White plays much for the Spurs this season. Pop will give him a chance at some point but I'm guessing that he will see most of his action in practice.

[whottt]

No thanks.

BTW Brent came off the bench as the main guard last year and sucked ass again.



IT's irrelevant since I didn't jock him last year, was more than okay with moving him for younger talent...and was in favor of keeping Devin Brown...


THe important thing is that when I did jock him, I was right. Title = Right....I know you struggle with just what it means to be right due to lack of experience...but I'm it.

There are no absolutes and eternities in sports...just because a player is the solution one year doesn't mean he is the final solution.

The Barry war was won in 05...period end.

[ChumpDumper]

Isn't he a Jackie Butler style project? Nice to have a couple of those on the shelve but he won't be seeing anything but IR on Austin I'm assuming.I went to the Toros' draft party last night. Apparently all the players they kept from last year are PF/C types. Judging from the guys they drafted, White would have no problem finding big minutes here in Austin. Something to think about.

[Kori Ellis]

Melvin Sanders played in 16 games last year. James White should into some this season. I don't think he'll be on the inactive list every game of the year.

[AFBlue]

Isn't he a Jackie Butler style project? Nice to have a couple of those on the shelve but he won't be seeing anything but IR on Austin I'm assuming.

Depends on his progress and on the moves made by the Spurs FO. If he progresses quickly and the Spurs trade Williams or Barry, he'll see some legit time this year.

For now, I'm just happy the Spurs filled the 15th spot with a legit long-term addition. I will expect little to nothing from White and Butler, but will hope for the best.

[Budkin]

Wow, just got back from lunch and saw the news. Great day in Spurs history! :downspin:

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, I was exaggerating, but he'll get Sanders/1st year Jack minutes -- not much more.

[PM5K]

and nor does his draft number

Two words: Tony - Manu

[whottt]

And nothing. Nice to have him for the future.


Well that's all he's billed as is Bowen's replacement....

FWIW I agree with you but I don't think it's a big deal...

I think there is a tendency by the Silver and Black faithful to pencil him in as the big long SF we've needed for so long and at 6'7 200lbs I don't agree. I don't care how long he is or how high he jumps...that's smaller than Manu.

I don't see him filling that role against LeBron, Artest, TMac and the like, you know, the 250lbers or 7 footers that play the position and give us so much trouble even when Bruce is on them. That's still a need, but it is nice to have a future dunk champion, superb athleticism, and possible Bowen replacement in the fold.

[MannyIsGod]

Barry was awesome the 2nd half of last year, how quickly some forget how almost traded Barry lit it up.

This is a great pickup. Anyone who thinks he's gonna make an impact this year is probably way of (I say probably on the off chance he blows up but com'on on). That being said, in a few years he may very well be the starting small forward for this team or at the least an active energy guy off the bench. Energy guys off the bench are sorely underrated in this league, but if you think back to some of our championships where we had a Malik Rose or a Manu Ginobili you can see how they change the game.

Great piece that just fell into our laps. :)

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, Shawn Marion is 6'7". Hopefully White bulks up a bit. He's young and has some upside, so I'm pleased.

[whottt]

Barry was awesome the 2nd half of last year, how quickly some forget how almost traded Barry lit it up.



He wasn't aswesome against the Mavs...at all.

He did hit that game winner against Sac though...

[whottt]

Eh, Shawn Marion is 6'7". Hopefully White bulks up a bit. He's young and has some upside, so I'm pleased.


He's 24...how much you think he's going to bulk up?

I didn't mention Marion because Marion is a guy that someone with Bruce's body type can handle(speficially Bruce)...Marion is a stat filler but he's not a dominant player capable of taking over a game...he's roleplayer to the nth degree...not the type we struggle with.

I'm talking the big 2 guards and long SF types that are playmakers...LeBron, Artest, Bonzi...TMac.

We'll get a reminder of the type tonight...

[MoSpur]

Brent Barry's performance last season in the playoffs or season is not the reason the Spurs lost in Game 7 in OT to the Dallas Mavericks. It seems like some people here are basing last year's exit from the playoffs is because of Barry. It takes a whole team to win.

[MannyIsGod]

He wasn't aswesome against the Mavs...at all.

He did hit that game winner against Sac though...A lot of people sucked against Dallas. Its obviosly the reason he didn't play last night. That doesn't mean he doesn't have value to this team, which he does. When you have a backup PG who has a history of not living up to expectations, a guy like Barry is a great thing to have on the bench.

I think he's certainly expendable, but Brent Barry on our bench isn't going to cost us any games but it sure as hell may win some.

[maddnezz]

Hey ChumpD, why did you change your team to atlanta man? I live here and dude, it's lame! I do get free tickets from my clients though!

[ChumpDumper]

He's 24...how much you think he's going to bulk up? Dunno, but I think some gain in that area could be possible with an NBA conditioning program.
I didn't mention Marion because Marion is a guy that someone with Bruce's body type can handle(speficially Bruce)...

I'm talking the big 2 guards and long SF types...LeBron, Artest, Bonzi...TMac.I was never of the mind that one guy was ever going to replace Bruce. If Flight can cover the smaller perimeter threats, that's one down, one to go in my book.

[MoSpur]

He's 24...how much you think he's going to bulk up?

I didn't mention Marion because Marion is a guy that someone with Bruce's body type can handle(speficially Bruce)...Marion is a stat filler but he's not a dominant player capable of taking over a game...he's roleplayer to the nth degree...not the type we struggle with.

I'm talking the big 2 guards and long SF types that are playmakers...LeBron, Artest, Bonzi...TMac.

We'll get a reminder of the type tonight...

:lol calling T-Ma big.

[ChumpDumper]

Hey ChumpD, why did you change your team to atlanta man? I live here and dude, it's lame! I do get free tickets from my clients though!The Spurs are undefeated with the Hawks as my listed team. For now it stays.

[Brutalis]

i dont wanna go through the pages so ill ask... will white be ready to go tonight or next game?

[whottt]

.I was never of the mind that one guy was ever going to replace Bruce. .

Hedo hater.

[whottt]

:lol calling T-Ma big.


TMac is tall...to tall for Bowen, you know, big in the tall sense. And if you'd been a fan prior to our last title, you'd know that.

[ChumpDumper]

Hedo hater.:lol

He's the other guy we would need.

[maddnezz]

The Spurs are undefeated with the Hawks as my listed team. For now it stays.
Uhh,Huuuhuuu, Cool! :king :fro

[AFBlue]

Hey ChumpD, why did you change your team to atlanta man? I live here and dude, it's lame! I do get free tickets from my clients though!


You live in the area too huh? Did you catch the Spurs game last year? Now THAT was lame! The Hawks are sorry though. I hope for my sake they get better soon. I would actually like to go to a watchable NBA game, since I can't be back in San Antonio.

[whottt]

Hedo was the guy who could defend any of those...in fact he did and was effective at it. That was one thing no one can say he didn't do well..

[Borosai]

Some people here are trying to shit in my cereal...and sure, I'll eat it, what the hell...but it still won't taste very good. Let me enjoy the moment...Jesus 1.5 is here!

[maddnezz]

You live in the area too huh? Did you catch the Spurs game last year? Now THAT was lame! The Hawks are sorry though. I hope for my sake they get better soon. I would actually like to go to a watchable NBA game, since I can't be back in San Antonio.
Yea I stay up 400 in Roswell off of Holcomb bridge and Charter cable dosn't
offer nba tv, or league pass! NOW AINT'T THAT A BITCH!!!!!!
:fro

[T Park]

I hope he has a higher IQ than Gerald Wallace.

[whottt]

Duncan is probably happier about this than anyone...he's got a donut gofer now.

[LEONARD]

If they make FT line dunks worth 4 pts...look out!! :fro

[Obstructed_View]

From a completely unrelated to the Spurs' team success standpoint, I'd love to see a Spur in the dunk contest. I was disappointed when Sean withdrew in '91(?).

[MoSpur]

TMac is tall...to tall for Bowen, you know, big in the tall sense. And if you'd been a fan prior to our last title, you'd know that.

Yeah, okay. Bowen has been effective guarding these guys and it has nothing to do with size. He doesn't stop all of them and maybe not most of them, but he does the little things that frustrate guys who are bigger than him. This guy White is not the biggest, but if he learns how to use his hands and constantly move with those so-called big guys, he will be fine.

[T Park]

Are you talking about Wallace's offensive IQ? Because his defensive IQ is just about as high as anyone in the NBA.

Supposedly White has a low basketball IQ, but that is probably just talk.




No I mean IQ IQ.

Guy is dumber than a brick.

[maddnezz]

If they make FT line dunks worth 4 pts...look out!! :fro
You mean your stiil here? Yuck, :ihit That damn doctor said that cream was supposed to clear up rashes :fro

[AFBlue]

If they make FT line dunks worth 4 pts...look out!! :fro

If he gets fouled attempting a FT line dunk...look out! Because he's going right back there and getting two either way! Always glad to have another good free throw shooter after the display last night (c'mon Bruce!)

[Bruno]

I don't know if White will be a good nba player but Spurs FO has been huge on this one. The fact that his contract is nit fully guaranteed is the cherry on the cake.

BTW, I'm happy for me because I won't be killed for having created false hopes.

[Condemned 2 HelLA]

If they make FT line dunks worth 4 pts...look out!! :fro


If he goes to the rack against your Geldings.....LOOK OUT!
Can't wait to see him bounce the first one of many off the top of Dirka-Dirka-Dirka's pinhead.

[T Park]

Once again, sweet job Bruno :tu

[Streakyshooter08]

:elephant :clap :downspin:

Hope he gets some playing time. Good to hear it is a 2 year deal. Is there going to be a Pop Show within the next weeks? I would really love to hear Pops opinion on him.

[ShoogarBear]

Suck it carlisle.

Suck it long, and suck it hard. (seanconnery accent)

:lmao

[ShoogarBear]

Hedo hater.

You guys do realize that if only Hedo had some balls, we'd probably be working on a five-peat?

[phxspurfan]

let me get something out of the i told you so cabinet (just a seC)

[whottt]

You guys do realize that if only Hedo had some balls, we'd probably be working on a five-peat?


http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52602

[ShoogarBear]

:lol okay, dude, I'll get to it in the next day or so.

[phxspurfan]

*returns from the i told you so cabinet*


Let me say, after watching the rules change over the years, that big men don't matter half as much, in the modern game, as they used to. Plus, there aren't many skilled centers left in existence (that we really had a shot at). I think we're good if we get a TALENTED SWINGMAN. Spurs will deliver with that next season.


response:



http://www.judd-website.co.uk/images/bclub2.jpg

Are you in the math club? The Spurs have no money for the next two seasons to sign anyone. The millions that were available were traded for Super Star Matt Bonner, and 6 mill on 2 shitty centers.

Maybe we can trade them for that TALENTED SWINGMAN!

================================================== =======

-_-


:ihit

[ShoogarBear]

Can somebody post (or re-post) the link to the White dunks?

[whottt]

Can somebody post (or re-post) the link to the White dunks?


They are on the second page of this thread...TimVP posted them.


http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52930


When you get to youtube there are a ton more vids on the sidebar featuring White.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

u guys must be pumped to have this guy. I know he hasnt lived up to his potential but it could be a great steal.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/363/2003mock9lz5mxex7.png

:smokin :lol

[T Park]

Gerald Wallace got a full ride to Alabama and is making millions of dollars each year.

Last time I checked, you operated a ferris wheel.



I operate a ferris wheel?

Really?

Link?

[T Park]

Was the guy really that highly regarded back in 03?

[whottt]

u guys must be pumped to have this guy. I know he hasnt lived up to his potential but it could be a great steal.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/363/2003mock9lz5mxex7.png

:smokin :lol


Well...he's no Francisco Elson for damn sure, but we are pretty jacked about it.

[AFBlue]

Yea I stay up 400 in Roswell off of Holcomb bridge and Charter cable dosn't
offer nba tv, or league pass! NOW AINT'T THAT A BITCH!!!!!!
:fro

Damn, that's torture. I, myself am a bit further south...like 2 hours, but I try to make it up there as much as possible and will even catch a game or two if they peak my interest.

Fortunately for me though, I have Cox Cable and they absolutely offer League Pass. I honestly think I'd go crazy without it. I already watch too many non-sports shows as it is, no way I could handle that without the infusion of some manly sports....especially my Spurs!

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Was the guy really that highly regarded back in 03?


i dont think so but it seems one site did
:lol

I just grabbed that from the Nuggets forum coz we were chatting about him the other day.

[drpill]

Awesome signing, as far as I can tell. Those dunks are completely insane.

I am extremely excited about the Spurs' youth movement. After some research, White sounds more like a 2 than a 3, but a 6'7" two guard with athleticism, a good attitude, length and stopping ability certainly deserves a place on our roster... Players like that don't find their way into the Spurs' franchise every day. He's a bit of a project, but if he can develop into a solid role player at the 2 and/or 3 spots by next year I will be absolutely thrilled.

[KEDA]

thats good news!!!


actually, thats fucking great news!!!

[AFBlue]

I don't know if White will be a good nba player but Spurs FO has been huge on this one. The fact that his contract is nit fully guaranteed is the cherry on the cake.

BTW, I'm happy for me because I won't be killed for having created false hopes.


I'm also happy for you...because I have a very substantial gun collection....

Just Kidding :lol

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Well...he's no Francisco Elson for damn sure, but we are pretty jacked about it.


Thats the problem. Now you have frankie it means that noone else will come close to pleasing Spurs fans :lol :downspin:

[T Park]

:lol

Me and Nugsfan The lone Frankie supporters :smokin

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

:lol

Me and Nugsfan The lone Frankie supporters :smokin


:lol yeh. We OWN the braggin' rights :smokin

[T Park]

You fucking know it :smokin

[pad300]

After all these years and it finally happens :elephant

Oh and it's going to be cool to have the NBA slam dunk champion wearing a Spurs uni.

We already have one. Don't tell me you've forgotten about Brent.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DozNjFqt4KY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXg-k_1NGMY&NR

RESPECT THE OLD MAN!

He still got some too!

[wildbill2u]

When you can touch the top of the backboard, you can probably put some points up on the board also.

:clap
Yeah, all you got to do is get waaaaaay up there and then have a good eye so you can drop them straight down.:spin :downspin:

[phxspurfan]

his final year in college he started all 33 games he appeared in and had shot 48% from the field, 84% from the line and 38% from 3. pretty solid. also averaged 1.2spg and .8 blocks pg...

[ShoogarBear]

The Spurs will fix his FT%.

[ShoogarBear]

Somewhere, GhostWriter is crying.

[phxspurfan]

We already have one. Don't tell me you've forgotten about Brent.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DozNjFqt4KY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXg-k_1NGMY&NR

RESPECT THE OLD MAN!

He still got some too!


what dunk did barry win it with? was it something i could do on a fisher price hoop?

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs will fix his FT%.

Probably breaking his wrists as we speak.

[wildbill2u]

If the league is going small ball and the return of the running game, I think this could be a really interesting pickup.

Imagine the Spurs running with Tim, Manu, Parker, Elson and White. WHOOOO!

[whottt]

what dunk did barry win it with? was it something i could do on a fisher price hoop?


The same one Jordan and Dr J won it with.

[T Park]

except Jordan and DJ went behind the line.


White boy did it in front.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Dont 4get Frankie. Its not NBA but ............

http://www.hoopshype.com/players/francisco_elson.htm


Won the Spanish League Slam Dunk Contest in 2000

[Bruno]

BTW, James White seems to be a better choice than Devin brown for the 15th roster spot.

[boutons_]

I don't see how this White guy means Brent is gone. Brent is useful now, while White probably won't see anything but garbage minutes for 2 years, when Brent will be gone.

If the consensus is happy, I'm happy (actually Thurs night is REALLY why I'm STILL happy). :)

If the sneakily briliant FO signed him to a year+ contract, rather than a 10-day contract, then I'm happy they think he's worth that long of a relationship.

But excitement about White's atheticism and dunking alone are can be applied to many in the NBA. How many of them are actually good basketball players that really help their teams?

So, it all sounds great, but probably he won't help much until quite bit into the future.

[Solid D]

White is certainly physically gifted but let's not get all "Dion Glover" over this guy just yet.

The Spurs need to put him through a brain-wipe first at the very private CIA-Pop De-programming and Rehabilitation Center.

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//2006/10/25/26eb8cfec910a14b972d221c5e925b81-medium.jpg

[The Truth #6]

He's known for his defense as much as his dunking. If he can buy into being Bruce's intern, then things will work out well.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

The Spurs need to give him minutes soon. Sadly Bruce will start deteriorating pretty soon

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

and by soon i mean 1-3 years

[makedamnsure]

what jersey number will he get?

[SequSpur]

Yawn. :sleepy

[themvp]

Yep Yep Horray! :)

Bring on Dunk Contest! :fro

[Old School Fool]

Hell yea!

[Admidave50]

He's attending the game against Cavs tonight!

[Zunni]

He's attending the game against Cavs tonight!
I think he'll be "attending" many games this year...in streetclothes. Good signing though, for the future.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

I hope he gets a shot to earn some playing time this year, his athletisism, could make him a spark off the bench the spurs sorely need right now.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

eh

he is almost as skinny as me

[Kori Ellis]

I tried to get Pop to comment on him in postgame but he didn't go for it. He just said, "I don't know, we'll see."

[polandprzem]

I think Pop doesn't know what james is capable of, so he must test the young fella ... and then decide if he will be inactive all season or a half a season

[joeyjfive]

This is really good news, almost makes up for us losing tonite. I hope he wins the Dunk contest, finally the spurs get someone freakishly athletic!!!

[rayray2k8]

The guy is has serious potential, but I doubt he'll have much of an impact this season.

[whottt]

I tried to get Pop to comment on him in postgame but he didn't go for it. He just said, "I don't know, we'll see."


Did you let Pop know that we here at SpursTalk found that answer unacceptable?

[whottt]

I think there is a tendency by the Silver and Black faithful to pencil him in as the big long SF we've needed for so long and at 6'7 200lbs I don't agree. I don't care how long he is or how high he jumps...that's smaller than Manu.

I don't see him filling that role against LeBron, Artest, TMac and the like, you know, the 250lbers or 7 footers that play the position and give us so much trouble even when Bruce is on them. That's still a need, but it is nice to have a future dunk champion, superb athleticism, and possible Bowen replacement in the fold.

and...


He's 24...how much you think he's going to bulk up?

I didn't mention Marion because Marion is a guy that someone with Bruce's body type can handle(speficially Bruce)...Marion is a stat filler but he's not a dominant player capable of taking over a game...he's roleplayer to the nth degree...not the type we struggle with.

I'm talking the big 2 guards and long SF types that are playmakers...LeBron, Artest, Bonzi...TMac.

And most importantly...



We'll get a reminder of the type tonight


Nice posts.

For all the hoopla over both White and Elson....we still have our major achilles heel....against LeBron, Artest, Bonzi...and TMac. We still need a long SF.

[T Park]

Nothing like reposting and quoting yourself.

[Kori Ellis]

and...



And most importantly...




Nice posts.

For all the hoopla over both White and Elson....we still have our major achilles heel....against LeBron, Artest, Bonzi...and TMac. We still need a long SF.

Or a strong SF.

[whottt]

Nothing like reposting and quoting yourself.


There's also nothing like saying you won't post for a year...then posting.

Otherwise known as a self asskicking.

[T Park]

:lol

Keep bringing it back to me.


God thats weak.

[mattyc]

Great news. Good to have a rookie on board.

[Bruno]

I agree that Spurs still need a strong/long SF.
I don't think too that this need is that big. When you consider teams in the west that are talented enough to beat Spurs in playoffs, only one has a long SF : Rockets with TMac and they aren't the most dangerous one.

[Obstructed_View]

We already have one. Don't tell me you've forgotten about Brent.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DozNjFqt4KY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXg-k_1NGMY&NR

RESPECT THE OLD MAN!

He still got some too!
The Spurs had an ex-dunk contest champion ten years ago. I think he meant having a Spur actually winning the contest as a spur.

[Texas_Ranger]

We` ve got a new slam dunk champion.

[whottt]

I agree that Spurs still need a strong/long SF.
I don't think too that this need is that big. When you consider teams in the west that are talented enough to beat Spurs in playoffs, only one has a long SF : Rockets with TMac and they aren't the most dangerous one.


You mean other than the Lakers(Odom), Kings(Artest), Sonics(Lewis), Nuggets(Carmelo) and uh...the Cavaliers.

And the Rockets have two of them...they got Bonzi too...remember him? He was the guy who did the Wilt Chamberlain impression against our team in the playoffs last year...


Ought to be really fun now that he's paired up with TMac.


The type of player we struggle with(we'll just call them a big SF) is actually pretty common in the NBA...that's the talent base of most teams in the NBA...we are one of the few that doesn't have one of them.

We are probably the only team in the NBA that's starts a 200lber at the SF position, not to mention the 6'7 thing...he's a great player, but he's best going up against legit 2 guards and he's not 6'10, nor does he weigh 250lbs. You can't coach 6'10, 250lbs.


If missing that type of player isn't our major weakness...then what is?

[themvp]

We` ve got a new slam dunk champion.

Don't be fast with that.

[Bruno]

You mean other than the Lakers(Odom), Kings(Artest), Sonics(Lewis), Nuggets(Carmelo) and uh...the Cavaliers.

Kings, Sonics, Nuggets aren't good enough to beat spurs in a 7 game serie.
Odom will mainly play PF with Lakers.
Cavs are in the east : do you honestly think that they will reach the final ?



And the Rockets have two of them...they got Bonzi too...remember him? He was the guy who did the Wilt Chamberlain impression against our team in the playoffs last year...


Ought to be really fun now that he's paired up with TMac.

It will be fun too to see Batier defending on Duncan.
Spurs are a bad matchup for Rockets.

[wildbill2u]

Before we award this guy the Dunk Championship and start measuring him for an All-Star uniform, lets remember what that ol perfesser of round ball, Charles Barkley said about athleticism: "A deer can run fast and jump high too, but I wouldn't suit one up for my basketball team."

[wildbill2u]

From the Indianapolis Star:

The Indiana Pacers were so high on James White when he came out of college they said they might have selected him with the No. 17 overall pick if Shawne Williams had not been available in the 2006 draft.

It turns out they didn't like White as much as they thought.
In what they called an "agonizing decision," the Pacers released White along with center John Edwards on Monday, reducing their roster to the 15-player limit.

The Pacers acquired White, a second-round pick, from Portland in a draft-night trade in June. The Pacers signed White, who was a five-year college player at Cincinnati, to a two-year guaranteed deal.
"(Team president) Larry (Bird) and I sat and talked with James about it," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said. "He was very professional about it. He's a kid that's very determined."

By the way, reading the comments by fans on this article and the cut, most of the 33 comments said they would rather have seen "Wacko Jacko" cut than White.

[manu]

so when will he start playing with the spurs?

[joeyjfive]

Wow I just found out he can also shoot freethrows.

[ChumpDumper]

so when will he start playing with the spurs?Maybe 2007.

[polandprzem]

Maybe 2007.

I think he is doing that right now. :p:


I wonder if he is patient, cause in SA he won't be able to play 20min/game and that can piss many players off. And will the spurs be interested in signing him to a guaratee contract next season?
Big unknown - James White. The best nba leaper in history of the nba.

[ChumpDumper]

He must be patient, because he had to know all that while signing here as a free agent. I do want him to get playing time as soon as next month, though.

In Austin.

[polandprzem]

In Austin? Why?

[polandprzem]

Just to develop what he was developing?

[ChumpDumper]

At this point, he's not better than Rawle Marshall.

Marshall would have had a difficult time getting of the Spurs' IR most of this season.

So yeah, he needs to develop, and I think some PT in Austin would keep him from getting stale or frustrated with the zero PT he will get as a Spur.

[polandprzem]

At this point, he's not better than Rawle Marshall.

Marshall would have had a difficult time getting of the Spurs' IR most of this season.

So yeah, he needs to develop, and I think some PT in Austin would keep him from getting stale or frustrated with the zero PT he will get as a Spur.

So in your opinion this will be another wasted NBA season for james yes?
I think it is a good idea sending him to the nbdl but I would like to know how is he doing on spurs practicess. Well now during the season it won't be easy to teach him how to play in spurs system, but I would like to know how he fits in the envoirment of Timmy, Bruce, Manu or Mike.
The good thing is that Gregg can always bring him back to the active roster.

[ChumpDumper]

So in your opinion this will be another wasted NBA season for james yes?Another? He's a rookie.
I think it is a good idea sending him to the nbdl but I would like to know how is he doing on spurs practicess.My plan would be to have him practice with the team for the next six weeks then send him to Austin so they can scout him during their four-game homestand around Christmas. Then they could decide whether coming back or staying with the Toros would be best.

[Buddy Holly]

He's not going to DLeague, so get over it.

[ChumpDumper]

He might. We've never had a player like this with the ability to send him down at the same time. I don't know what there is to "get over" -- it's just a thought. I'll take some pictures of the condos being built downtown next time to pacify you.

[Buddy Holly]

Dleague is for unknowns/undrafted players who are trying to get picked up by a team. He'll learn ten times more in practice than the Dleague.

You overrate the DLeague like no other. It's the Dleague.

[ChumpDumper]

Dleague is for unknowns/undrafted players who are trying to get picked up by a team.It's also for young IR players to get playing time their first two seasons in the league. NBA teams sent down about 30 players last season. You know more than all the GMs who made that decision?
He'll learn ten times more in practice than the Dleague.Learn to read, I don't have White in Austin all season.
You overrate the DLeague like no other. It's the Dleague.It's a tool available for NBA teams to use. And it is used by NBA teams. How is that overrating?

[Zunni]

DLeague allows him to actually PLAY.

[Buddy Holly]

He doesn't need to PLAY in the DLeague. He needs to learn from the Spurs. What exactly is he going to learn in the DLeage??

[ChumpDumper]

He can apply what he has learned in practice to actual game situations he would not experience as a Spur sitting behind the bench in street clothes. Have you ever played a sport at all?

[Bruno]

White has a non-guaranteed contract and non-guaranteed contracts becomes guaranteed for the rest of the season in January.
Surs have two months to decide if he can become a nba player. I am curiopus to see how they will evaluate him : practices, DLeague or nba games (Spurs can put Vaughn on the IL for few games).

[objective]

Hard to see him getting on the court for a few weeks.

He won't be even able to more than shootarounds and walkthroughs for the next week. They flew so they could play Toronto tomorrow afternoon, then go to New York for Monday night's game, then fly back to play Phoenix on Wednesday. Then thursday and friday there might be a practice with a day off.

Very little time for him to even start learning the system.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, I don't see why this is so hard for BH to understand. Last year, the Rockets sent Gerald Fitch to Austin so Rudy T could scout him in a game situation and determine whehter they should keep him. Denver sent down Julius Hodge because he wanted playing time after practicing for months with the Nuggets and the George Karl agreed it could help his game. The Nuggets recalled him whenever they needed him and got to scout Hodge playing at the point and small forward for 11 games at over 30 minutes per game.

Now if Buddy Holly can convince me he has more basketball knowledge than Rudy T and Karl, I will never speak again of this confounded D-League.

[Buddy Holly]

I never said sending players to the DLeague is a bad thing or stupid or meaningless, if so, quote me on it.

I said the Spurs aren't going to send him there, so deal with it. I said you over value the dleague, I said he'll learn more practicing than playing in the dleague.

[ChumpDumper]

I said the Spurs aren't going to send him there, so deal with it.I have my doubts as to whether the Spurs will send him down, but they haven't been in this situation with a player with the D-League as an option. So it remains a possiblity, and a good one all things considered.
I said you over value the dleagueWhat does that even mean?
I said he'll learn more practicing than playing in the dleagueAnd I said you can't read because he can do both.

[phxspurfan]

The same one Jordan and Dr J won it with.


so unoriginal. pippen > jordan in a dunk contest. I could do 360 jams from half court with him in nba jam.... 0.o

[phxspurfan]

3 years is not soon. Bruce is getting better every year and never gets injured. I see no signs of deterioration.


yeah...uh i think he is at least a step slower than two years ago, after watching my dvd of lebron blowing by him and crunking on duncan twice. he's never relied solely on his athleticism to defend, though. He's a smart player who will be in the right position and use his feet/hands to frustrate. he may turn into more of an interior defender in the next two years if the whole NBA goes small ball

[raspsa]

Reading White's scouting report, what's not to like? The Spurs will give him a good environment to develop his remarkable talents, the rest will be up to him. Great jumping, outstanding footspeed and lateral quickness, 3-point-range, dependable FT shooter, good ball-handling skills etc. etc. this could be the start of Spurs Championship basketball - The next generation

[Bruno]

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If the Nets had a spot available they probably would have considered ex-Cincinnati swingman James White

Not this time , M. Thorn. :nope

[CaptainLate]

The guy has done a between his legs dunk from the FT line, and you're bitching about 3 inches in height? Let it go.

I heard his wing span is 7 feet. With that and a vertical leaping ability of ???, he should easily be able to defend a 6'10" or higher SF. :hungry:

[Mr. Body]

He's extremely skinny and gets knocked around, so will be useless against LeBron and the bigger SFs that plague us. He does possess good lateral speed and quickness, however, so should be able to become a solid defender in this league.

I expect this week and a half or so are very important to him. Days off before the Knicks game, few games after, no road trip for some days. He can actually stay in the practice facility and try to make up for a lost training camp.

[Solid D]

Spurs.com confirmed the playing number for James White will be #33.

Spurs get a bit younger, but even though he's a rookie, he's 24 years old. Jackie Butler remains the youngest Spur.

There are only a couple of times the rest of the month when the Spurs will have 2 consecutive days off, which = some actual practice time instead of shoot-arounds and film sessions. Yesterday and today are one set and then after Sat. night's game with the Knicks, two more prior to the Rockets' tilt. That's it for November.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Tomorrow is the perfect time to let Butler and White play.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Especially Butler. Rub it in Isiah's dumbass face.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs.com confirmed the playing number for James White will be #33.

What was Stacey Augmon's old number? Hopefully he can become another Plasticman.


Spurs get a bit younger, but even though he's a rookie, he's 24 years old. Jackie Butler remains the youngest Spur.


Parker and Udrih are only months older than White, despite working on their 6th and 3rd years in the league. It's gotten where staying in school is almost a detriment.

[Notorious H.O.P.]

Especially for White. Wasn't he projected to be a lottery pick at one point (after high school or his first year in college)?

[Obstructed_View]

What was Stacey Augmon's old number? Hopefully he can become another Plasticman.
At least he and LJ had 2, which was Tark's UNLV number.

[Mr. Body]

On potential alone, out of high school he might have gone lottery. In any case, higher than he was actually drafted.

Tough to say. He might've been out of the league by now if he went straight out of high school. It's tough going to Cincy - you can forget any basketball instruction, under Bob Huggins. And then when he got the boot, White's last year was basically lost to basketball instruction.

That's the interesting thing - this may be the first time White has had a strong disciplinarian as a coach.

[Solid D]

Yes, Augmon wore #2. He actually played 36 games for Orlando last year.

[Mr. Body]

Yes, Augmon wore #2. He actually played 36 games for Orlando last year.

I know. I looked it up. Utterly crazy. I have no recollection of Orlando playing games last year.

Where did #33 come from, for White? A thanks to Bird for cutting him and delivering him to the Spurs?

[Ocotillo]

#33 Wasn't that Cadillac Anderson's number?

[Obstructed_View]

Where did #33 come from, for White? A thanks to Bird for cutting him and delivering him to the Spurs?
I bet you a dollar he'll say Scottie Pippen when asked.

[Solid D]

Others to wear 33 for the Spurs (and Chaparrals)

Antonio Daniels
Jud Buechler
Greg "Cadillac" Anderson (2 different stints with the Spurs)
Uwe Blab
David Greenwood
Steve Johnson
Bill Willoughby
Michael Wiley

ABA
Rich Jones (ABA Spurs and pre-move to SA with the Dallas Chaparrals)
Richard Peek (ABA Chaparrals)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

You think we'll eventually retire his number?

[Solid D]

So far, I'd say Rich Jones was the best #33 the Spurs have had. AD is 2nd best.

[wildbill2u]

Ah, Rich Jones of sainted memory. He was a Power Forward when that designation meant "Enforcer" He looked the part, like he ate babies for breakfast.

[Zunni]

You think we'll eventually retire his number?
You people REALLY need to ratchet down your expectations. I think the BEST case scenario is that you have an NBA caliber wing who can shoot, defend some, and run the floor, sort of like a large scale Antonio Daniels. Maybe something like Richard Dumas, minus the drugs.