Super Winners?

[Duff McCartney]

This is probably an odd topic but I guess I was thinking about it earlier watching ESPN. What player who is currently in the NFL do you think would make you sad if he never won a SB in his career?

Personally for me it's a few people.

Peyton Manning - arguably the best player of this generation, it would make me really sad if he never won a Super Bowl
Ladainian Tomlinson - arguably the best running back in the NFL, but for some reason I don't see the Chargers winning the Super Bowl.

Past...

Dan Marino - Sad that never won a Super Bowl...considering how great a QB he was.

Yours?

[johnsmith]

I don't feel bad for Marino because he always put the blame on his teammates and that was annoying.

You know, now that I think about it, I won't feel bad for any player that doesn't win the super bowl because these ass holes get to go out, make millions of dollars and play a game. A game that I would kill to still be able to play, and they get paid doing it. Many of them don't have to work a day in their lives after football if they don't want too, and some of them even become commentators, which is pretty much any sports fans dream job.

In closing, I hope no one ever wins the super bowl again..................except Al Wilson and the Denver Broncos.

[stretch]

id hate to see Donovan McNabb, Ladanian Tomlinson, Randy Moss, Steve McNair, Tony Gonzales, Fred Taylor, Junior Seau, Brian Dawkins, Zach Thomas, Michael Strahan, Jason Taylor, Marvin Harrison, Tiki Barber, and Stephen Davis all retire without a ring.

[SAtown]

I'd hate to see Curtis Martin retiring w/o a ring. Unfortunately, the Jets aren't going anywhere this year and it seems like Martin is retiring after this year.

[dirk4mvp]

Randy Moss


How could you want him to win a SB? He's nothing but an arrogant stuck up prick.

[dirk4mvp]

I'd hate to see Peyton, Marvin Harrison, and Tiki Barber not win a ring. Arguably the 3 most classiest guys in the NFL, if not the entire sports world.

[johnsmith]

I'd hate to see Peyton, Marvin Harrison, and Tiki Barber not win a ring. Arguably the 3 most classiest guys in the NFL, if not the entire sports world.


I'll admit, I was even fired up when Harrison was actually showing emotion on Sunday night.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If the Peyton brothers never win a SuperBowl I will die a happy man.

[TheTruth]

Any player currently on the Broncos roster that wasn't a part of our Back to Back title winning teams.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Any player currently on the Broncos roster that wasn't a part of our Back to Back title winning teams.


Even Jake ":flipoff the crowd" Plummer?

[TheTruth]

He wears the helmet, so yes.

[BeerIsGood!]

The Broncos will not win a Superbowl for another 20 years at least.

[Melmart1]

If the Peyton brothers never win a SuperBowl I will die a happy man.
:tu

I like Tiki Barber but as a Cowboys fan, the thought of the Giants winning a Super Bowl makes me physically ill so I am torn.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

No one.

[PaceMonster]

If Jason Taylor does not win a super bowl, i will at least know that this is the most classiest player in all of sports....he is a veteran on a young Dolphins squad that spills his guts every week and is the best example it can get for the young guys....he has(in my generation of watching football) opened his mouth once(last week against the Bears) and then went out on the field and practically killed his ass to back up his words....i love the guy and if he doesnt win one with Miami, as much as im a Dolphins fan, i hope he goes somewhere else and wins one. Also i hope Peyton Manning, Tiki Barber, and LaDainian Tomlinson.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You can all stop hoping for LaDanian Tomlinson to win one, he will.

[dirk4mvp]

You can all stop hoping for LaDanian Tomlinson to win one, he will.


Not before Peyton will. :toast

[TheTruth]

The Broncos will not win a Superbowl for another 20 years at least.
About 5 years before that mess of a franchise in Dallas does.

Especially if they keep passing on bums like this

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3079/totp2.jpg

For studs like this

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7419/t1javonallfa0.jpg

[TheSanityAnnex]

Not before Peyton will. :toast
:reading Searching for a stellar Peyton playoff performance.....................









:wakeup Still haven't found one..........................












:nope Never gonna happen...........

[TheTruth]

This one is pretty funny to read after the fact...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2374189

A star is born: Owens signs with the Cowboys
Associated Press

IRVING, Texas -- Jerry Jones was finishing yet another explanation of why he thinks Terrell Owens will be on his best behavior with the Dallas Cowboys when his new star receiver chimed.

"Jerry, I know what's expected of me," Owens said. "I won't let you down."

The Cowboys sure hope so, especially since they didn't get it in writing.

The receiver who has proven he can wreak havoc on or off the field signed a three-year, $25 million contract with Dallas on Saturday. The deal includes a $5 million bonus and $5 million salary this season, but no added penalties should Owens pull any of the stunts that caused so many problems for his two previous teams, the San Francisco 49ers and the Philadelphia Eagles.

His relationship with the Eagles soured only months after he led them to the Super Bowl, leading to a bitter breakup that ended with his release Tuesday.

"It's more than his word, it's about logic," Jones said. "This is an opportunity for him to basically put it all together and come in here and have a very positive experience. ... Whoever got him after those two experiences was going to get a more knowledgeable and educated player."

"Jerry, I know what's expected of me," Terrell Owens said Saturday to Cowboys owner Jerry Jones. "I won't let you down."

Agent Drew Rosenhaus said Jones never requested anything beyond a standard NFL contract. Jones might not have wanted to bring it up considering Rosenhaus said there were six other teams also aggressively seeking Owens.

"There was so much interest in Terrell, there was no reason to do anything but that kind of deal," Rosenhaus said.

After his windfall this season, Owens will get salaries of $8 million in 2007 and $7 million in 2008. All told, it's a lot more than he would've made under the contract with Philadelphia that began his bad blood with the organization.

"All's well that ends well," Rosenhaus said. "He's a big, big winner and so are the Dallas Cowboys."

Jones said team officials began kicking around the idea of acquiring Owens in November, once it was apparent he wouldn't be back with the Eagles. They interviewed his friends and enemies, then talked extensively to him before deciding he was a risk worth taking.

"The more we looked, the more we became convinced he'd be a good fit," team vice president Stephen Jones said.

There's no questioning his talent -- Owens has consistently put up statistics the Cowboys have lacked since Michael Irvin was in the prime of his career in the mid-1990s.

It's his attitude that's an issue. Owens has badmouthed his last two quarterbacks even though both were Pro Bowl players, squabbled with coaches and gotten angry at his bosses for not properly celebrating personal milestones such as his 100th career touchdown.

"I'm going in with my eyes wide open," said his newest quarterback, Drew Bledsoe. "I know there have been some issues. But at the same time, going forward from here, I don't see how it helps us to dwell on some of the stuff that's gone on in the past."


While the Dallas Cowboys enigmatic new star receiver Terrell Owens is saying all the right things, "I'll be a better teammate, a better person," skeptics suggest the Cowboys are entering a risky business deal. During his career Owens has left a path of destruction from San Francisco to Philadelphia, and the pattern seems to be consistent. Outside The Lines examines whether the Cowboys are doomed to repeat the past. (ESPN, 1:40 a.m. ET/10:40 p.m. PT).

Owens will join a locker room lacking veteran leaders who might be able to keep him in check. Captains Dan Campbell and Dat Nguyen already are gone, as is La'Roi Glover, another calming influence.

But Owens, who has been away from the team setting since November, vowed he won't need any help getting along, saying he's had plenty of time to think about the problems he's caused.

"I'm going to put those things behind me," Owens said. "They can only make a man stronger, wiser. For me, that's what it's done. I'll be a better teammate, a better person, a better man in life."

Perhaps the biggest test of that will be his relationship with his new coach, Bill Parcells.

The two have spoken only by telephone. Parcells missed the news conference Saturday because he was in Florida. Don't read anything into it, though, because Parcells hasn't attended any news conferences for free-agent signings since joining the club three-plus years ago.

"Bill is very much on the page here, very much," Jones insisted. "We're not just in the business here of walking problems through the door to create challenges. We've got enough on our own."

Jones also tried to douse speculation that Owens' arrival could hasten Parcells' departure.

"I don't think it's fair to say if this doesn't work, Bill's not going to be here to live with it," said Jones, who in January gave Parcells a raise and an extension through 2007. "I don't think it's going to have any bearing at all to how long Bill is going to be here."

Part of the gamble with Owens coming to Dallas is whether fans will embrace him. Many are still bitter about the September 2000 game when, while playing for the 49ers, Owens celebrated each of two touchdown catches at Texas Stadium by running to the team's star logo at midfield. Safety George Teague secured a spot in team lore by decking Owens after the second one.

Then, on a Monday night game in 2004 best remembered for his pregame skit with a "Desperate Housewives" actress, Owens celebrated another score by tapping on a logo in the end zone.

Owens said he and Jones already have discussed his future TD celebrations. With an arm on Jones' back, he smiled wide and said, "I will embrace the star."

Until the Eagles banished him after nine games last season, Owens had at least 75 receptions and 1,100 yards receiving in five straight seasons. The last time a Cowboys receiver hit both figures in one season was Irvin in 1997.

Irvin and Owens are good enough friends that they spoke before Owens decided to join the Cowboys. Irvin is so happy for his pal and his former team that he said, "This move for Dallas put them -- and I'll say it -- in the Super Bowl."

That's quite a leap considering the Cowboys were 9-7 last season. They've missed the playoffs the last two years and haven't won a playoff game in nine years. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :blah even more next year when he is a year older???

[dirk4mvp]

New year.

Better team.

Stop hating.

What has L.T. done of importance?

Face it. Peyton>L.T. Colts>>Chargers

[dirk4mvp]

Hell, Eli will win one before L.T. will.

[TheTruth]

Man...Look at these awesome playoff numbers from the one and only Ladainian Tomlinson

Wild Card NYJ L 17-20 26 80 3.1 12 0 9 53 5.9 10 0 0 0

[TheSanityAnnex]

Don't make me pull up Plummer's choke job :nope

[TheSanityAnnex]

What has L.T. done of importance?Nothing really, unless you consider possibly being the best back to ever play the game something of importance.


Face it. Peyton>L.T. Colts>>ChargersThe only thing we can base this on is a head to head matchup. And I think you remember how that went.........................Turner to the forty, the thirty, twenty, ten, TOUCHDOWN! The Streak is over. The streak is over.


As of now, Chargers own Colts, and you will see this again when we face you in the playoffs. Its quite a joy to see Manning flustered in the pocket with a defense like the Chargers going after his head.

[TheTruth]

Let us show the stats of a real super star runningback....


Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1996 jax L,27-30 | 14 91 1 | 7 24 0
1997 jax W,42-17 | 31 184 2 | 4 11 0
1997 kan W,14-10 | 25 101 2 | 1 17 0
1997 pit W,24-21 | 26 139 1 | 1 2 0
*1997 gnb W,31-24 | 30 157 3 | 2 8 0
1998 mia W,38-3 | 21 199 2 | 1 7 0
1998 nyj W,23-10 | 32 167 1 | 1 12 0
*1998 atl W,34-19 | 25 102 0 | 2 50 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 204 1140 12 | 19 131 0http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/83/scterrelldavisphotodf3.jpg

[TheTruth]

damn it all to hell....TD was on pace to gain 2280 yards in a 16 game postseason career.

[dirk4mvp]

As of now, Chargers own Colts, and you will see this again when we face you in the playoffs. Its quite a joy to see Manning flustered in the pocket with a defense like the Chargers going after his head.

I guess you didnt' happen to see what Peyton did to the 'best defensive team in the NFL' just last week at their place and what he did just a few days ago at the Patriots place. I'm pretty sure that was the first time so far this season that Greaton Manning threw 300+ yards in 2 straight weeks.

And their D's are better than the Charger's 'Roided up defense, so what makes you think for a minute that Peyton won't take a big shit all over the Charger's D?

[TheSanityAnnex]

And their D's are better than the Charger's 'Roided up defense, so what makes you think for a minute that Peyton won't take a big shit all over the Charger's D?Because I haven't forgotten how the Chargers took a big shit on Peyton in your house. And please, leave the Tony Dungy kid excuse in your pocket.




This is pointless to debate at this point, see you in the playoffs.

[dirk4mvp]

Because I haven't forgotten how the Chargers took a big shit on Peyton in your house. And please, leave the Tony Dungy kid excuse in your pocket.


This is pointless to debate at this point, see you in the playoffs.


There's no excuse. It's not like teams go 16-0 often, so the Colts were supposed to, right? But last I checked, 14-2 ain't so bad. But Vanderfag missing fg's supposedly being the most accurate kicker ever is pretty bad. And so was Harper getting tackled by Roethajdfhihgfberger too.


See ya in the playoffs, when it really counts. :toast

[johnsmith]

The Broncos will not win a Superbowl for another 20 years at least.


Hey, the Cowboys are half way to that. Looks like you only have to suffer for another decade.