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Nbadan
11-10-2006, 02:02 AM
Not only yeah, but Hell Yeah!

Clark considering presidential bid
Arkansas Times Staff
Updated: 11/9/2006


Now that the 2006 elections are over, Gen. Wesley Clark is turning his attention toward deciding to run for president. Sources tell the Arkansas Times that Clark has said he will make his decision within the next two months.

Clark’s spokesman, Erick Mullen, said, “That’s true, but we don’t have a timeline for when a decision will be made just yet.”

Mullen added, “All options are on the table. Gen. Clark was the number-one requested surrogate, especially in red states and swing

states during this cycle. As we travel around, in places that other Democrats don’t go, there is a clamor and enthusiasm to see Gen. Clark serve in public again. Obviously, with the war and national security at the top of the agenda, Clark is well-suited to lead the country in a better direction than it’s going now.”

Ark Times (http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleID=6112230d-32a5-4169-9fd8-004c3b4a70dc)

Here is Wesley Clark's statement on his website securing America (http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/9330)


Yesterday, we Americans took a stand against the politics of personal destruction -- rebuffing the onslaught of negative advertising and dirty tricks.

Voters let themselves be heard and ordered a change in government, giving Democrats the opportunity to serve the nation and to provide the leadership that's been missing these past six years in Washington. With this opportunity comes great responsibility, and we must take the challenges ahead seriously, soberly and with clarity of purpose -- on issues like health care, the economy, education, and most of all, Iraq and national security.

It is a mistake for Democrats to celebrate rather than understand the meaning of yesterday's election.

America is looking for leadership right away, and Democrats should push forward a 3-point plan to address the crisis in Iraq and refocus our national security efforts:

1. Change the course in Iraq. Democrats must pressure George W. Bush to listen to the generals on the ground and the whole range of experts -- not just the GOP -- on how to change the course in Iraq. We must work with regional powers, promote gradual transformation and stability, and regain the 'strategic consent' for the long-term U.S. influence in the region. We must use the situation in Iraq to propel us toward this larger goal, and in doing so, we will also find the right way to wind down our deployment there.

2. Rebuilding alliances to address the real national security threats. We must bring our allies into the reconstruction of Iraq to ensure shared responsibility for the ongoing stability of Iraq itself and the region as a whole. We must provide real oversight on government contracts in Iraq; we cannot continue to allow no-bid contracts to Halliburton. And by bringing our allies together, we can finish the job in Afghanistan, and more effectively hunt down Osama Bin Laden and contain Iran and North Korea.

3.Address energy independence and global warming as national security issues. We must put a policy in place to lead us to energy independence and away from the volatile and conflict-ridden regions where, today, the "geostrategic risk premium" is adding billions of dollars to the costs imposed on the American people. Our reliance on oil also impacts global climate change. As I have stated before, global warming has serious national security risks: stretching our military resources to deal with catastrophes (like Katrina) and increasing the potential for conflicts due to the displacement of people, competition for scarce resources, and adverse effects on agriculture.

Thanks to your help, we have a real opportunity to change the course in Iraq and fix our national security policy. And it's only possible because Democrats now have the power in Congress to stand up to President Bush and make change happen. You helped us make history last night, and I can't thank you enough for what you've done.

In this election cycle, WesPAC helped 42 candidates win their races across America, including 25 candidates who flipped their seats from Republican to Democratic seats. Our WesPAC community raised over $1 million for candidates, not to mention the millions of hours of volunteer time members of the Clark community provided to campaigns in every corner of our nation. And I am most proud of the fact that at least 6 veterans were newly elected to House and Senate yesterday. What a tremendous victory for America -- and it wouldn't have been possible without the hard work that you and I and hundreds of thousands of Democrats put in over these last 24 months.

Last night the American people spoke, loud and clear. Now we have our marching orders. It's time to change course.

It's time to lead.

Sincerely,

Wes Clark

whottt
11-10-2006, 02:13 AM
Clark likely would have gotten my vote in the last election...unfortunately, he didn't start campaigning quickly enough and the Crats were backing screwjobs like Dean and Kerry.

It'll be interesting to see who they support this time...


Clark is like a near military genius, guerilla war and otherwise...that's the main thing I like about him at this particular moment in time. And he takes no shit from anyone.

He'll probably be the most intelligent guy running in 08...although that doesn't mean he's going to be the best diplomat. I figure diplomacy is going to be his weakest point, particularly foreign diplomacy, in fact I doubt he'll be much more savvy than W in this area. He does however command more respect than W and most other politicians....he definitely puts off a, "you do not want to fuck with me" vibe that should serve us well at this particular moment in time.

It'll be interesting to see him get the nomination.

FWIW, I could see Clark actually trying to run as an Independent or even switching parties...and IMO, he could probably get away with it too.


And before you accuse me of "trolling" your posts...

I suggest you do a forum search back to the 04 election....I liked Clark as the best candidate then, and found it unfortunate that he didn't get the nomination.

Nbadan
11-10-2006, 02:24 AM
What? Whott and I finally agree on something?

Today is a very good day.

Nbadan
11-10-2006, 02:46 AM
I really think that this victory by the DEMOs and a Clark candidacy and win would cement the beginning of Progressive movement reign, a populist movement that wants to reign in the political power of corporate interests and lobbyist on government that could last decades. Idealistic? Sure it is and I shutter to think what could happen if the DEMOs win the Presidency in 08 behind someone like Hillary and also manage to hold onto both sides of the Houses. Keep in mind that up until last year, the Demos had little powerin DC, thus there was little motivation for lobbyist political influence, thats why there were so few Abramoff stories linking Demos to powerful lobbyist despite the Republican best efforst to find any, William Jefferson aside, well, that's about to change.

BIG IRISH
11-10-2006, 03:47 AM
:nope :nope :nope :nope :nope :nope :ihit :ihit :ihit
He sounds Good, however he is a politican and didn't get 4 stars for nothing.

However,
I know that exposure on network TV EVEN "fox" can make even a bad officer look good. A quality of bad officership is to flip-flop on your positions, He wasn't sure if he was a democrat or republican till GWB told him he was not a Player and would not be a part of his administration.

Another quality of bad officership is the willingness to support a clearly immoral policy. Ever hear of WACO

It would appear that one immoral campaign led to another.
Belgrade was bombed on both Easters. :madrun The Embassy from China was bombed (Clark oops sorry we made a mistake.)
I kinda like that one :rolleyes
He let russia take the airport, which
almost caused WWIII, and it got him fired.

He blames the British
:dramaquee and will not say he didn't take action because he was unsure of what would happen to him after Retirement, or just WTF Clinton, his CIC, would do.

BIG IRISH
11-10-2006, 04:20 AM
Clark likely would have gotten my vote in the last election...unfortunately, he didn't start campaigning quickly enough and the Crats were backing screwjobs like Dean and Kerry. :clap

It'll be interesting to see who they support this time... :clap


Clark is like a near military genius, guerilla war and otherwise...that's the main thing I like about him at this particular moment in time. And he takes no shit from anyone. True but he would be to close to the nuke button

He'll probably be the most intelligent guy running in 08...although that doesn't mean he's going to be the best diplomat.

He is qualified to be president, because he is inelligent? A Rhodes scholar.” Just because he is a Rhodes scollar doesn't make him smart Anyone
who graduates the Oxford program named after Cecil Rhodes should be automatically disqualified.
The essential mission of the Rhodes scholarship program is to plant the seeds of Socialism into otherwise bright young minds.

I figure diplomacy is going to be his weakest point, particularly foreign diplomacy, in fact I doubt he'll be much more savvy than W in this area. He does however command more respect than W and most other politicians....he definitely puts off a, "you do not want to fuck with me" vibe that should serve us well at this particular moment in time. :clap

It'll be interesting to see him get the nomination.
FWIW, I could see Clark actually trying to run as an Independent or even switching parties...and IMO, he could probably get away with it too.
Won't happen and DOA if he runs as an independent, See Ross and only 20 million vorters, it would cause a ruckus


And before you accuse me of "trolling" your posts...

I suggest you do a forum search back to the 04 election....I liked Clark as the best candidate then, and found it unfortunate that he didn't get the nomination.

and just as an after though Wesley Clark, because he projects the type of image that many Southern Democrats might buy. Tall, handsome, well-spoken, and with a high-ranking retirement — these are qualities that voters looking on the surface might wrongly equate as being qualified to be CIC.

101A
11-10-2006, 09:06 AM
:nope :nope :nope :nope :nope :nope :ihit :ihit :ihit
He sounds Good, however he is a politican and didn't get 4 stars for nothing.

However,
I know that exposure on network TV EVEN "fox" can make even a bad officer look good. A quality of bad officership is to flip-flop on your positions, He wasn't sure if he was a democrat or republican till GWB told him he was not a Player and would not be a part of his administration.

Another quality of bad officership is the willingness to support a clearly immoral policy. Ever hear of WACO

It would appear that one immoral campaign led to another.
Belgrade was bombed on both Easters. :madrun The Embassy from China was bombed (Clark oops sorry we made a mistake.)
I kinda like that one :rolleyes
He let russia take the airport, which
almost caused WWIII, and it got him fired.

He blames the British
:dramaquee and will not say he didn't take action because he was unsure of what would happen to him after Retirement, or just WTF Clinton, his CIC, would do.


Irish, I think you cynical criticism of politiicians from ALL bents is refreshing on this board. You are obviously engaged about all this. Is there anyone you DO like, however? (not ragging, honest question)

BIG IRISH
11-16-2006, 01:54 AM
Irish, I think you cynical criticism of politiicians from ALL bents is refreshing on this board. You are obviously engaged about all this. Is there anyone you DO like, however? (not ragging, honest question)

Thank You.

As for the question. There is no one I like, at this time. I'm hoping someone
good comes out of the woodwork, Sort of like a 16yr old girl looking for her
Knight,


I think Mitt Romney will be nominated by the Repub's However being
a mormon, his biggest obstical, along with being anti-gay marriage,
anti-abortion will be the cause of him not winning And yet, he has managed to stay popular in the most liberal state in the nation.