#2 University of Michigan @ #1 The Ohio State University

[Bob Lanier]

OSU 24
MICH 7

Smith 380 yards, pass TD, 2 rush TD

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

If Michigan somehow pulls it out, it will make for a BCS nightmare

[scott]

I actually hope for that BCS nightmare. The more crazy it gets, the louder the cries for a playoff will become! Let the revolution begin!

[JamStone]

#3 Louisville chokes against Rutgers.

#5 Auburn falls apart againt Georgia.

#6 Florida scrapes by South Carolina at home.

#8 Cal gets stunned by Arizona.


Teams are just asking to not be in the National Championship game.

Texas and USC, and even Notre Dame sitting much prettier right now.

USC v. Notre Dame becomes a very big game as well.

[sa_butta]

Go Blue!!!!!!!!

[Slinkyman]

#3 Louisville chokes against Rutgers.

#5 Auburn falls apart againt Georgia.

#6 Florida scrapes by South Carolina at home.

#8 Cal gets stunned by Arizona.


Teams are just asking to not be in the National Championship game.

Texas and USC, and even Notre Dame sitting much prettier right now.

USC v. Notre Dame becomes a very big game as well.

Right now it looks like Texas doesn't want to be in the National Championship game either.

[JamStone]

Yeah, but to be fair, McCoy's injury is a huge factor.

But, gotta give credit to K State. They are playing a helluva game.

[Vizzini]

If Michigan somehow pulls it out, it will make for a BCS nightmare


How? If they beat OSU, and win the title game, where is the nightmare? Don't underestimate a team that ither teams averaging 1.3 yds per carry. Ohio State is beatable, very beatable.

[FromWayDowntown]

How? If they beat OSU, and win the title game, where is the nightmare? Don't underestimate a team that ither teams averaging 1.3 yds per carry. Ohio State is beatable, very beatable.

I think the point was that if Michigan wins next Saturday at Columbus, it will be extremely difficult to justify keeping Ohio State out of the BCS Championship game (IMO), which creates the BCS "nightmare" of a rematch for the title. Frankly, I think that's a bunch of garbage. I think a rematch would be fantastic for college football -- particularly a rematch of two of the great programs and great rivals in college football. I'd think the familiarity would make for a good game and I'd think the rivalry would make the build-up just fantastic. So, in that sense, I completely disagree with the notion that a rematch would be a bad thing for college football or for the BCS.

[Vizzini]

I think the point was that if Michigan wins next Saturday at Columbus, it will be extremely difficult to justify keeping Ohio State out of the BCS Championship game (IMO), which creates the BCS "nightmare" of a rematch for the title. Frankly, I think that's a bunch of garbage. I think a rematch would be fantastic for college football -- particularly a rematch of two of the great programs and great rivals in college football. I'd think the familiarity would make for a good game and I'd think the rivalry would make the build-up just fantastic. So, in that sense, I completely disagree with the notion that a rematch would be a bad thing for college football or for the BCS.


Yeah, I never thought of that, but this is why they have the computer system. It is a nightmare, but it is going to be a nightmare no matter what happens, b/c who can decide what 1-loss team is the best remaining. Texas, L'ville, Cal and Auburn are all done. Florida looked horrible today, and was spared b/c of three missed kicks. Arkansas has kicked Auburn's and Tennesee's ass, but got trounced by USC, which lost ot a mediocre Oregon St., while Notre Dame got waxed by Michigan, and should they win out, which would eliminate USC, and if Michigan beats OSU, could set up a rematch between them, but that wouldn't be right if you ask me. There is still the SEC title game yet to go, a potential unbeaten in Rutgers, or a one-loss WVA. Unless the winner between Michigan and OSU wins the title, it will be a bitchfest clusterfuck once again.

[JoeChalupa]

A close game still warrants a BCS championship game for the Buckeyes.

But they'll take Michigan.

[FromWayDowntown]

A close game still warrants a BCS championship game for the Buckeyes.

But they'll take Michigan.

Why doesn't a close game still warrant a BCS championship game for the Wolverines as well.

If Michigan loses a close game at OSU, is there really a better 1-loss team in America at that point?

[samikeyp]

I actually hope for that BCS nightmare. The more crazy it gets, the louder the cries for a playoff will become! Let the revolution begin!

So do I.

I think Michigan can pull it off but damn if OSU doesn't look unstoppable.

[JamStone]

A close game might warranta re-match, but if Ohio State loses at home, even if a close game, they might drop further down.

What I would love to see is Notre Dame go undefeated the rest of the way and Ohio State barely beat Michigan, and then I'd like to see the BCS justify Notre Dame going to the Championship game after its only loss would have been a blowout loss to Michigan at South Bend.

BCS doesn't want to do a rematch. And, they don't want two teams from the same conference. But, the rest of the teams have basically made it the likely scenerio right now. Even Florida has looked weak the last few weeks. Only USC can make an argument right now, but I think Notre Dame beats them.

[Richard Cranium]

Why doesn't a close game still warrant a BCS championship game for the Wolverines as well.

If Michigan loses a close game at OSU, is there really a better 1-loss team in America at that point?

I agree. If OSU were to lose and they beat Michigan in the BCS Championship does that warrent co-champions?

[Richard Cranium]

The BCS staff does a good job overall but this year it is going to be tough.

[JoeChalupa]

I was afraid this would happen.

All year long #1 against #2. Whooohoo!! How 'bout that Big Ten!!

What a game this is going to be. The Buckeye defense must show up from the start and stop the Wolverines from scoring early. A classic game between the biggest rivalry in NCAA Football will leave the BCS standings in chaos no matter the outcome. They both deserve a shot at the title.

[sa_butta]

We need a Vbookie on this one. Im stoked for this game.

[Mr Dio]

They are #1 & #2 thanks to not playing each other til late in the season.

IMO Bucks win this one.

Mich couldn't put up nearly as good a game vs a couple of schools as this yr's OSU squad could.

Bucks crush their comp in the BCS title game.

[JoeChalupa]

I concur. I see a close game with the Buckeyes pulling away during the 3rd quarter if not in the first half. The Buckeyes must grasp this moment and crush Michigan to stop the nay sayers.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

I think Michigan pulls off the up set on Saturday. Regardless I'm really looking forward to the game on Saturday. :hungry:

[mikejones99]

There are 30 teams better than these fools and they play on Sunday.

[DarkReign]

The rivalry is spiraling out of control right now. School officials from OSU sent out an email to Michigan alum and fans to warn them not to drive cars to the game with Michigan plates. That wearing any sort of UM paraphenalia is strongly unadvised. etc, etc.

I hope to God UM wins so those losers in Columbus burn their own city down. Cant drive to the game because their fans will vandalize your car?!

WTF is that?

[JoeChalupa]

Go Buckeyes!!! I took some crap last year when UT squeezed out a victory but not this year. The Buckeyes are on a mission and they will not be denied and its not like Ohio State is the first college campus to have some hooligans amongst them.

Go Buckeyes!!!

[Marklar MM]

The Buckeyes are on a mission and they will not be denied and its not like Ohio State is the first college campus to have some hooligans amongst them.

Go Buckeyes!!!

They just have the most. :)

[MajorMike]

I'm just ready for this game to be over and everyone will forget about it as quickly as the did the last 'game of the year' (Ohio UT) so I can stop hearing about it.

[Bob Lanier]

:cheer :flag:

[Bob Lanier]

So much for the Ohio State defense.

[johngateswhiteley]

impressive drive.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

prepare for yet another disputed title flushed with USC greatness!

[Bob Lanier]

So much for the Michigan defense. Unless they take Smith out, Michigan's going to lose big.

So, take Smith out. Separated shoulder, concussion, whatever.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Troy Smith is such a dirty peice of shit he makes Matt Leinart look like VY.

[Marklar MM]

So much for the Michigan defense. Unless they take Smith out, Michigan's going to lose big.

So, take Smith out. Separated shoulder, concussion, whatever.

Dude. Michigan's defense looks better than Ohio States defense.

[johngateswhiteley]

prepare for yet another disputed title flushed with USC greatness!

...you got the greatness part right, at least.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

USC greatness in the nfl! Leinart!

[JoeChalupa]

Great adjustments by both coaches. Great pre-game show too.

[JoeChalupa]

Yeah baby!!!!

[Bob Lanier]

Dude. Michigan's defense looks better than Ohio States defense.
You were saying?

Chenne the Choker putting on one hell of a performance...

[ShoogarBear]

That roughing the center call might be the worst I've ever seen.

[johngateswhiteley]

USC greatness in the nfl! Leinart!

he's a badass. one thing that confuses me though, is ever since Green fired the offensive coordinator their offense has not been as good.

[JoeChalupa]

How 'bout them Buckeyes!!!!!!

[LaMarcus Bryant]

LOL OMG, we are looking at potentially four USC national titles in a row

[johngateswhiteley]

LOL OMG, we are looking at potentially four USC national titles in a row

i count 5, cause some of the polls had USC #1 in 2002.

[johngateswhiteley]

Michigan's WRs are nasty.

[Bob Lanier]

Touchdown OSU! :smokin

[LaMarcus Bryant]

i count 5, cause some of the polls had USC #1 in 2002.
5, make it 5 USC greatnesses in a row. Wow, what a great time to be a member of USC greatness!

[JoeChalupa]

USC would get slammed by either Michigan or Ohio State. Not even worth mentioning in this thread.

[JoeChalupa]

Plus Notre Dame is going to take down USC.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

USC Greatness!

[Bob Lanier]

Vintage Carr dumbass playcall.

[Bob Lanier]

They're all Mike Hart's bitches.

[JoeChalupa]

Damnit!!

[JoeChalupa]

Must hold 'em to field goal.

[Bob Lanier]

Great arm. No brain.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

wow, tressle is so fucking good that he actually forces the other coach to make obscene play calls.

This game is over.

[johngateswhiteley]

Hart is AMAZING! but Henne is killing them with some poor throws.

[ATX Spur]

Take care of the fucking ball!

[Bob Lanier]

Michigan needs to find a coach and quarterback who aren't complete fucking morons.

Breaston TD!

[LaMarcus Bryant]

One thing is for sure, there will never be a team in college football history better than ohio state.

[Bob Lanier]

They seem to misunderstand the meaning of the word "indisputable".

TD Hart.

Still going for 2. Tressel burns his second timeout. Carr decides to send Rivas out, XP good. 4 point game

[LaMarcus Bryant]

OSU center is on the take

Look for Ted Ginn Jr to jump up in the heisman rankings


OSU is so fucking amazing that they make mario drop a pass thrown straight to his chest with noone around

[Bob Lanier]

Fucked in the ass by the cheating refs.

There's the game.

[johngateswhiteley]

michigan back in it. TD, gotta go for two though.

[johngateswhiteley]

WOW! two point good.

[Marklar MM]

I wish they had attempted to switch to man cover in the first half.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Are you guys kidding? This game is over, has been over, since the first half...the bad thing is we're gonna hear forever how this game has 'lived up to the hype' and how it was such a close special game, well, maybe, but its the most onesided close game i've seen in a while.

[Marklar MM]

Are you guys kidding? This game is over, has been over, since the first half...the bad thing is we're gonna hear forever how this game has 'lived up to the hype' and how it was such a close special game, well, maybe, but its the most onesided close game i've seen in a while.


Alright. You have an opinion. I would disagree.

[Marklar MM]

game over.

[Marklar MM]

That 4th and whatever in the first half comes back to bite Michigan in the ass.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

How was this game close? Michigan had a chance in the mid 3rd but then osu came right back and put points on the board, michigan never got TD's out of the two turnovers and were behind all the way

[jochhejaam]

Great game! Could there be a rematch?

[Amarelooms]

Wouldn't mind a rematch...don't want to see USC in the champ...hope they lose tonight or to the Domers.

[johngateswhiteley]

Wouldn't mind a rematch...don't want to see USC in the champ...hope they lose tonight or to the Domers.

i'm sorry.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Re-match! Re-match! Re-match!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Losing Berringer on the first series was big. Henne missed open WRs, costly penalties, played too much zone, etc.

Ohio State made the plays when they needed to and the Michigan D couldn't stop them.

The biggest sequence in the game was when OSU held UM to 3 after the INT, which turned out to be the difference in the game.

[jochhejaam]

Re-match! Re-match! Re-match!
Losing in a close game to the #1 team in the Country on the road? I'd vote for a rematch!

[Marklar MM]

Anyone want to go on suicide watch with me if Rutgers makes the championship game?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Anyone want to go on suicide watch with me if Rutgers makes the championship game?


Why? If they go undefeated in a BCS conference, they should go.

[jochhejaam]

The rushing yardage, 202 yards, was a huge surprise. I think Michigan was giving up 30 yards per game, or as one statistician figured out, 39 inches per carry.

[greenroom]

Hell no to a rematch. The game was not as close as it looked. As much as I wanted Michigan to win. I just felt that Ohio State controled the game and if they wanted to score they did.
Ohio State had 3 turnovers and still Michigan could not win.

Bring on USC or Florida/Arkansas or Hell if Rutgers goes undefeated they should get a shot. before Michigan

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Hell no to a rematch. The game was not as close as it looked. As much as I wanted Michigan to win. I just felt that Ohio State controled the game and if they wanted to score they did.
Ohio State had 3 turnovers and still Michigan could not win.

Bring on USC or Florida/Arkansas or Hell if Rutgers goes undefeated they should get a shot. before Michigan


I agree, unless it's Notre Dame. U of M and OSU have throttled ND in the last 11 months by a combined score of 81-41.

[Bob Lanier]

Hell no to a rematch. The game was not as close as it looked. As much as I wanted Michigan to win. I just felt that Ohio State controled the game and if they wanted to score they did.
Ohio State had 3 turnovers and still Michigan could not win.

Bring on USC or Florida/Arkansas or Hell if Rutgers goes undefeated they should get a shot. before Michigan
I have to agree with this.

Let USC or Rutgers get their chance rather than Notre Dame or one of the ridiculously overrated SEC teams, though.

[johngateswhiteley]

first of all lamarcus bryant is nuts. the game was close AND it was @ Ohio State. but if:

1. USC beats Cal
2. USC beats Notre Dame
3. USC beats UCLA

...then SC deserves to get in, period. thats a ridiculously tough finishing schedule. if they lose one of those then Florida deserves to get in, if Florida also loses then ARK deserves to get in, if ARK also loses then i vote Rutgers to get in, if Rutgers loses then and only then a rematch. b/c while everyone including myself THINKS they know who is better and best you just don't know for sure until its played out.

[Marklar MM]

I really hope Notre Dame doesn't get the bid. Michigan and OSU kicked ass in their games against them.

[jochhejaam]

first of all lamarcus bryant is nuts. the game was close AND it was @ Ohio State. but if:

1. USC beats Cal
2. USC beats Notre Dame
3. USC beats UCLA

...then SC deserves to get in, period. thats a ridiculously tough finishing schedule. if they lose one of those then Florida deserves to get in, if Florida also loses then ARK deserves to get in, if ARK also loses then i vote Rutgers to get in, if Rutgers loses then and only then a rematch. b/c while everyone including myself THINKS they know who is better and best you just don't know for sure until its played out.
You're probably right. Even though Michigan may very well be the 2nd best team in the Country, they had their chance.
Someone else's turn.

[greenroom]

I agree, unless it's Notre Dame. U of M and OSU have throttled ND in the last 11 months by a combined score of 81-41.


Notice I did not include ND as Michagan should go before ND..IMO

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

You're probably right. Even though Michigan may very well be the 2nd best team in the Country, they had their chance.
Someone else's turn.

This is why I hate the BCS. U of M loses by a FG to the #1 team in the country in their house, yet other programs who've lost to average teams will get the NC shot. It makes no sense to me because the whole purpose of creating the BCS was to make sure the two best teams played in the NCG.

The only reason one loss teams are ranked above Rutgers is name recognition. If it was FSU/Miami/PSU with their record and schedule, there is no doubt that that team would be playing on January 8th.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

The game was not as close as it looked.

well JGW i am not the only one with this opinion

osu totally dictated this game and when they came close to losing control michigan shot themselves in the foot

[johngateswhiteley]

well JGW i am not the only one with this opinion

osu totally dictated this game and when they came close to losing control michigan shot themselves in the foot

so what, then you're both wrong.

i agree that Ohio State was in control for most of the game, but the big play on both sides meant that the game could have gone either way. plus, it was in Columbus!

finally, when the game comes down to a roughing the passer...i think it could have gone either way.

[Slinkyman]

i vote for a rematch for no other reason but that michigan is the only team that has a shot at beating OSU.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

so what, then you're both wrong.

i agree that Ohio State was in control for most of the game, but the big play on both sides meant that the game could have gone either way. plus, it was in Columbus!

finally, when the game comes down to a roughing the passer...i think it could have gone either way.


Whatever dude, well if we are both wrong thats bad for you and your team cuz we could see the rematch and your USC greatness will be snubbed. :dizzy

[johngateswhiteley]

i vote for a rematch for no other reason but that michigan is the only team that has a shot at beating OSU.

wrong, if USC can hit on the deep ball...something they did against Oregon, Arkansas, and Nebraska...then USC could win. if they play like they are tonight, they will lose bad.

...they are frickin inches away from having put up 2 TDs to go with their 6 points. BUT, Cal has played SC close recently.

[johngateswhiteley]

Whatever dude, well if we are both wrong thats bad for you and your team cuz we could see the rematch and your USC greatness will be snubbed. :dizzy

true.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I would like UT to beat the ag-sips, and end up playing USC again in the fiesta. Unfortunately UT will probably lose to the ag-sips because Colt will still be hurt, and Fiesta will probably be Sooners and Boise State.

[greenroom]

To play for a National Championship should you at least be a conference Champion?

This isn't the NFL where there is a playoff system. IF the College Presidents want to say the regular season means something then you should have to win your Conference Championship to play in the National Championship.

And to say this was a close game Ohio State was up by 11 or more points most of the game?

[johngateswhiteley]

I would like UT to beat the ag-sips, and end up playing USC again in the fiesta. Unfortunately UT will probably lose to the ag-sips because Colt will still be hurt, and Fiesta will probably be Sooners and Boise State.

A&M will beat t.u. regardless. after two one-point losses @ home they are due for a big win.

[ATX Spur]

A&M will beat t.u. regardless. after two one-point losses @ home they are due for a big win.

Bullshit. Colt or no, Texas isn't going down to a&m.

[JoeChalupa]

Ohio State and Michigan are still the top 2 teams in the Country and yesterday was the true National Championship game. Go Buckeyes!!

Michigan lost to the Number 1 team and they should still be ranked #2, IMO.

After ND knocks off USC and since Michigan beat ND. Michigan deserves another shot at the title but I too think Ohio State controlled the game an even after 3 turnovers the Wolverines could not capitalize.

Rutgers is gone. Wisconsin at 11-1 is out of BCS contention since only 2 teams from any conference can be in the BCS.

How 'bout that Big Ten Conference!!!!

[DarkReign]

The best team in the country won yesterday. Someone has said earlier that OSU looked unstoppable.

They are. Pity to the second-rate team that plays them in the title game. Sorry homers, OSU is the undisputed best team in the country, and UM is unmistakenly the distant second.

Everyone else will be bludgeoned.

[greenroom]

Ohio State and Michigan are still the top 2 teams in the Country and yesterday was the true National Championship game. Go Buckeyes!!
How 'bout that Big Ten Conference!!!!

So I guess we should just cancel the BCS since the National Championship game was already played?


Michigan played its best game and still was beaten easy by Ohio State. If Ohio State was to play Michigan again Ohio State would win by at least 15 points IMO.
Ohio State played a bad game and was never challenged by Michigan. Was it close on the scoreboard at the end of the game. but if you watched the game you knew Ohio State was going to win and if they wanted to score they would have.

If Texas would of finished with one lose would you want a rematch with Ohio State? Most people did not since they had already been given the chance to beat them and already lost. So why does Michigan get a pass?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Michigan did not play its best; deciding to pass it on 3rd and short was a dumb call by the coach, and henne threw some errant passes, the defense gave up mad yards to that young chinstrapping rb too

[Marklar MM]

That by far was not Michigan's best game of the year. You may look at the points and think so, but all around it was not.

[FromWayDowntown]

Michigan's loss put it at #3 in the USA Today poll, 16 polling points behind USC

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm


1. Ohio State (63) 12-0 1,575 1
2. Southern California 9-1 1,444 4
3. Michigan 11-1 1,428 2
4. Florida 10-1 1,407 3
5. Arkansas 10-1 1,302 6
6. Notre Dame 10-1 1,285 5
7. West Virginia 9-1 1,151 7
8. LSU 9-2 1,081 9
9. Wisconsin 11-1 1,053 10
10. Texas 9-2 994 11
11. Louisville 9-1 944 12
12. Boise State 11-0 862 13
13. Auburn 10-2 825 15
14. Oklahoma 9-2 795 16
15. Georgia Tech 9-2 655 18

[Mr Dio]

Mich lost their chance to prove something big.
They don't deserve a rematch.

Besides, I need USC to go to the BCS title game to guarantee the Buckeyes cover their +600 odds to win the BCS title game. That should be a blowout win for the Bucks.

[tlongII]

Mich lost their chance to prove something big.
They don't deserve a rematch.

Besides, I need USC to go to the BCS title game to guarantee the Buckeyes cover their +600 odds to win the BCS title game. That should be a blowout win for the Bucks.

OSU might win, but they won't blow out USC. Nobody blows out USC.

[johngateswhiteley]

OSU might win, but they won't blow out USC. Nobody blows out USC.

...this is true. i don't recall USC ever being blown out of any game after 2000. i think their worst loss since 2001 was by 7 points, but i could be wrong.

[Mr Dio]

IMO if, IF, USC does go they very well may be dbl digit dogs by kickoff.
That is how good OSU is this yr.

[johngateswhiteley]

IMO if, IF, USC does go they very well may be dbl digit dogs by kickoff.
That is how good OSU is this yr.

could be, and i have no problem being the underdog. that would be quite a change from the past years...almost refreshing.

...plus, i would take that bet and not think twice. no way ohio state beats USC by double digits.

[j-6]

To play for a National Championship should you at least be a conference Champion?

What about the year ('02?) that Nebraska got their asses kicked by Colorado and didn't even win their division, let alone the Big 12?

[Bob Lanier]

Bump?

[Mr Dio]

OSU might win, but they won't blow out USC. Nobody blows out USC.


Nah, a 4pt win by UCLA does the trick just as a 40pt blowout would. :lol

[Mr Dio]

Wow, if Fla loses this is a rematch in AZ.

[sa_butta]

Wow, if Fla loses this is a rematch in AZ.If Florida wins somebody is going to be pissed.
Michigan and Florida both have an argument to be there.