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Johnny_Blaze_47
11-12-2006, 01:10 AM
A friend of mine was browsing around and told me this note (I know it's probably nothing new, but read me out): Not only have there only been four quadruple-doubles in NBA history, but no player has ever had double-digits in points, rebounds, steals, assists and blocks at any game in their careers.

Anyway, we were just trying to figure out if any active player had a legitimate shot at doing that once in their careers.

Some names we've tossed out are: Shawn Marion, Josh Smith, Gerald Wallace and Kevin Garnett.

Thoughts?

timvp
11-12-2006, 01:12 AM
Only current player with a shot would be Andrei Kirilenko.

Johnny_Blaze_47
11-12-2006, 01:15 AM
Only current player with a shot would be Andrei Kirilenko.

Good catch. We missed him.

AK had 8 steals on Dec. 3, 2003 vs. Houston.

10 blocks last season against the Kings.

TDMVPDPOY
11-12-2006, 01:21 AM
tim duncan has a chance.....hahahahaha

gospursgojas
11-12-2006, 01:21 AM
2 of the 4 that had quad doubles were spurs

Zunni
11-12-2006, 01:22 AM
Only current player with a shot would be Andrei Kirilenko.
I think he could in the right system, but Utah wouldn't be that system. He would come up short in dimes, because he's not the primary ball handler. Sloan likes a PG that dominates the ball.

Johnny_Blaze_47
11-12-2006, 01:22 AM
2 of the 4 that had quad doubles were spurs

And David barely missed two more times.

gospursgojas
11-12-2006, 01:24 AM
And David barely missed two more times.


Tim was like 2 assts or 2 something shy of one in game 6 of the 03 finals :downspin:

Johnny_Blaze_47
11-12-2006, 01:24 AM
I think he could in the right system, but Utah wouldn't be that system. He would come up short in dimes, because he's not the primary ball handler. Sloan likes a PG that dominates the ball.

He's already had 11 assists in a game in January against the Raptors. Only stat he lacks it in is steals (had 8 before).

gospursgojas
11-12-2006, 01:29 AM
Tim was like 2 assts or 2 something shy of one in game 6 of the 03 finals :downspin:


Tim's line:

21 pts
20 rbs
10 asts
8 blks

z0sa
11-12-2006, 01:31 AM
I would say AK. You'd have to be long enough to block shots, play the passing lanes, 10 point scoring night, alot of open looks for your teammates, and good boxing out... could it be possible for ak?

Aggie Hoopsfan
11-12-2006, 02:05 AM
Add Brevin Knight to the list (for the quad). He had a game earlier this week with 22 points, 7 assists, 5 boards, 4 steals.

I also think Manu has come close a few times with points/boards/assists/steals.

thekingrobert
11-12-2006, 02:10 AM
Lebron can get it with points, rebs, assists and steals so can Wade

whottt
11-12-2006, 02:11 AM
Don't forget...Johnny Moore was one steal short of doing it. One steal...

SenorSpur
11-12-2006, 02:11 AM
A friend of mine was browsing around and told me this note (I know it's probably nothing new, but read me out): Not only have there only been four quadruple-doubles in NBA history, but no player has ever had double-digits in points, rebounds, steals, assists and blocks at any game in their careers.



Don't forget that two of those four players that have recorded the elusive quadruple double are former Spurs players - DRob and Alvin Robertson

whottt
11-12-2006, 02:24 AM
If we are talking a quint...well the hardest part is the steals...since the NBA record is 11 steals(held by San Antonio Spur Larry Kenon)

The guy who has come the closest to doing it based on career highs after Kirilenko, is Chris Webber....

Others that have seem to have the capability to pull it off based on career bests are:

Dirk Nowitzki(9 steals, active high mark in the NBA)
Kevin Garnett
Tracy McGrady(Not enough of a shotblocker to do it now, but early in his career he was a nice shotblocker)
Shawn Marion

And IMO Lamar Odom could pull it off too.

But as it stands now, Shaq and Kirilenko are the only guys who have even pulled off a career quadruple double.



As for who might be able to pull it off, one youngster....

Josh Smith...

I'd be willing to bet Hakeem Olajuwon probably came the closest to pulling it off based on career highs...we know he did it in blocks, assists, boards and points...and Hakeem was the best big man steal artist in NBA history.

whottt
11-12-2006, 02:28 AM
As for a quad...any great shotblocker has the ability to do it. Doing it the way Alvin Robertson and Johnny Moore(almost) did it, with steals, is the hard way.

I guess Ron Artest or AI might be capable of pulling it off with steals...

Steals are weird...I think Drob had his career best game in steals in his final season.

SenorSpur
11-12-2006, 02:33 AM
Don't forget...Johnny Moore was one steal short of doing it. One steal...

Didn't know that. How incredible would it have been to have had 3 former Spurs on that quadruple-double list.

whottt
11-12-2006, 02:35 AM
Yeah...If Johnny had done it he would have been the first Spur to do it.


Shaq also nearly pulled one off in the finals against the Sixers. Shaq had like 9 assists and 8 blocks.

ata
11-12-2006, 05:55 AM
Don't forget...Johnny Moore was one steal short of doing it. One steal...
So was Larry Bird (if it was not an assist) when there was few minutes PT left. Coach put him on the bench until the end of the game.

mffl89
11-12-2006, 08:05 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double

"The Quadruple-Double is a basketball term, defined as an individual performance in a game in which a player accumulates a double digit number total in any four of these categories: points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocked shots. In NBA history, only four players have recorded quadruple-double performances and they are:

* Nate Thurmond, October 18, 1974, Chicago vs. Atlanta; 22 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists, 12 blocks.
* Alvin Robertson, February 18, 1986, San Antonio vs. Phoenix; 20 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 steals.
* Hakeem Olajuwon, March 29, 1990, Houston vs. Milwaukee; 18 points, 16 rebounds, 10 assists, 11 blocks.
* David Robinson, February 17, 1994, San Antonio vs. Detroit; 34 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks.

There have been lots of notable near misses.

* Larry Bird, February 18, 1985, Boston vs. Utah; 30 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists, 9 steals.
* Alvin Robertson, March 18, 1989, San Antonio vs. Utah; 27 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists, 7 steals.
* Hakeem Olajuwon, March 3, 1990, Houston vs. Golden State; 29 points, 18 rebounds, 9 assists, 11 blocks.
* Lionel Simmons, November 26, 1991, Sacramento vs. Phoenix; 10 points, 14 rebounds, 10 assists, 7 blocks.
* David Robinson, January 11, 1994, San Antonio vs. Minnesota; 27 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists, 8 blocks.
* David Robinson, February 8, 1994, San Antonio vs. Washington Bullets; 31 points, 14 rebounds, 10 assists, 7 blocks.
* Clyde Drexler, November 1, 1996, Houston vs. Sacramento; 25 points, 10 rebounds, 9 assists, 10 steals.
* Chris Mullin, February 19, 1997, Golden State vs. Boston; 19 points, 12 assists, 10 rebounds, 7 steals.
* Mookie Blaylock, April 14, 1998, Atlanta vs. Philadelphia; 14 points, 8 rebounds, 11 assists, 10 steals.
* Kevin Garnett, December 14, 1999, Minnesota vs. Atlanta; 22 points, 15 rebounds, 10 assists, 7 steals.
* Mike Bibby, April 2, 2000, Vancouver vs. Dallas; 14 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists, 7 steals.
* Shaquille O'Neal, June 8, 2001, NBA Finals, LA Lakers vs. Philadelphia; 28 points, 20 rebounds, 9 assists, 8 blocks.
* Tim Duncan, June 15, 2003, NBA Finals, San Antonio vs. New Jersey; 21 points, 20 rebounds, 10 assists, 8 blocks."

MarkCuban
11-12-2006, 09:43 AM
only guy that could get a quinuple double is dirk :drunk

danyel
11-12-2006, 10:05 AM
Gasol has small chance Carrer highs 12 assists 4 steals 8 blocks
Shaq 10 5 15
Tim of course 10 8 8
Brand 10 5 8
Lebron 15 7 5
AK 11 8 10
Ben Wallace 8 6 10

MrChug
11-12-2006, 10:12 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double

* Chris Mullin, February 19, 1997, Golden State vs. Boston; 19 points, 12 assists, 10 rebounds, 7 steals.

THAT'S MAH BOYYYYYY!!! Haha..must be something with the buzz cut. I'm sayin AK47 :elephant

anakha
11-12-2006, 10:23 AM
Slightly off-topic question:

Aside from the four quadruple-double occasions, has there been anyone who has pulled off a triple-double without scoring 10 or more points?

Zunni
11-12-2006, 10:24 AM
But as it stands now, Shaq and Kirilenko are the only guys who have even pulled off a career quadruple double.
See the list above. Neither has done it.

Zunni
11-12-2006, 10:26 AM
Slightly off-topic question:

Aside from the four quadruple-double occasions, has there been anyone who has pulled off a triple-double without scoring 10 or more points?
I'm not sure, but If I had to guess, I'd say Kidd. He's always an assist machine, but in his younger days, he was a rebounding and steals monster.

MrChug
11-12-2006, 10:50 AM
Anyway, we were just trying to figure out if any active player had a legitimate shot at doing that once in their careers.

MrChug
11-12-2006, 10:50 AM
I'm not sure, but If I had to guess, I'd say Kidd. He's always an assist machine, but in his younger days, he was a rebounding and steals monster.

No one's asking you for your guess based on the past jackass. :loser

Zunni
11-12-2006, 11:05 AM
No one's asking you for your guess based on the past jackass. :loser
Did you see the question that was quoted in my post, jackass? The poster asked if anyone knew if an NBA player had ever done a triple double without points. The bolded text is the past tense of the verb, fuckwit.

wildbill2u
11-12-2006, 11:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double

"The Quadruple-Double is a basketball term, defined as an individual performance in a game in which a player accumulates a double digit number total in any four of these categories: points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocked shots. In NBA history, only four players have recorded quadruple-double performances and they are:

* Nate Thurmond, October 18, 1974, Chicago vs. Atlanta; 22 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists, 12 blocks.
* Alvin Robertson, February 18, 1986, San Antonio vs. Phoenix; 20 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 steals.
* Hakeem Olajuwon, March 29, 1990, Houston vs. Milwaukee; 18 points, 16 rebounds, 10 assists, 11 blocks.
* David Robinson, February 17, 1994, San Antonio vs. Detroit; 34 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks..."
Remember that the NBA never thought to make the quad double a statistic until relatively late. I'd guess some older players like Oscar Robertson and John Havilcek to name two probably had quad doubles that weren't recorded.

MrChug
11-12-2006, 11:24 AM
Did you see the question that was quoted in my post, jackass?

Oh, sorry for recognizing your insignificance. I don't pay attention to your posts moron. I just answer give credence to a valid thread. Not your insignificant what if's. Oh yeah, and fuck off dipshit.

Johnny_Blaze_47
11-12-2006, 12:04 PM
Remember that the NBA never thought to make the quad double a statistic until relatively late. I'd guess some older players like Oscar Robertson and John Havilcek to name two probably had quad doubles that weren't recorded.

Yeah, we were pondering that, too.

Kareem also must have had a shot.

boutons_
11-12-2006, 12:08 PM
"rebounding monster"

Jason is irrefutable proof that you don't have to be tall, athletic, high jumper, front-court player to be an excellent rebounder.

whottt
11-12-2006, 12:34 PM
See the list above. Neither has done it.


I said career...using career highs.


Shaq and Kirilenko have both done it.

Shaq's career high in assists is 10 and blocks is 15.

Kirilenko's career high in assists is 11 and blocks 10.

Both have have had countless doublt digit rebound and scoring performances.

I was attempting to project who had the skillset to do it using their career highs...


That's why I used the word career...quadruple double. And Shaq and Kirilenko are the only active players to have done that AFAIK.

Horry For 3!
11-12-2006, 12:34 PM
As for a quad...any great shotblocker has the ability to do it. Doing it the way Alvin Robertson and Johnny Moore(almost) did it, with steals, is the hard way.

I guess Ron Artest or AI might be capable of pulling it off with steals...

Steals are weird...I think Drob had his career best game in steals in his final season.
Artest had 8 steals in the 1st or 2nd game of the season I believe.

whottt
11-12-2006, 12:36 PM
Let's talk about the triple double double...

Registering 20 in 3 statistical categories...

Only one man has done it and he did it 3 times....in points rebounds and assists.



He went by the name of Wilt.

TDMVPDPOY
11-12-2006, 12:38 PM
i did that in nbalive gtfo

Zunni
11-12-2006, 12:40 PM
Oh, sorry for recognizing your insignificance. I don't pay attention to your posts moron. I just answer give credence to a valid thread. Not your insignificant what if's. Oh yeah, and fuck off dipshit.
Liar. You specifically called out my post, like you were the thread police. Did you take names for the teacher when she was out of the classroom? I'll bet you did...

whottt
11-12-2006, 12:42 PM
On that list of near quad doubles, Drob should have one more entry...because he almost had one against Shaq once upon a time.

JamStone
11-12-2006, 12:46 PM
Kirilenko and KG are likely the ones most capable. Gerald Wallace probably too, but he's not a big assists guy. Boris Diaw might be capable, if he didn't become a lazy fat-ass the summer. Chris Bosh might be too.

picnroll
11-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Looking at his college game and skills Joakim Noah may have a shot if he develops and his game translates.

Samr
11-12-2006, 12:57 PM
Ben Wallace could maybe get a quad with points, rebounds, steals, and blocks.

I know that's a reach.

STEVEYCU
11-12-2006, 07:31 PM
DAM... someimes I forget how badass DRob was stat wise will probably be the best Spur ever

SsKSpurs21
11-12-2006, 07:39 PM
AK has had a few 5x5 games...5+ in each statistical category.

whottt
11-12-2006, 08:09 PM
AK has had a few 5x5 games...5+ in each statistical category.


Drob had one of those too....

Hakeem had like 5 or 6 of them.


Not as hard to do as a quad double.

ShoogarBear
11-12-2006, 08:30 PM
Moore got his almost quad-doub against, I believe, Golden States. Story is the Warriors were offering to give him a easy steal, but Moore refused.

Oh, and here's a trivia question: who are the only players in NBA history with games of at least 20 points, 20 rebounds, and 20 assists (not all the same game)?

whottt
11-12-2006, 08:37 PM
Moore got his almost quad-doub against, I believe, Golden States. Story is the Warriors were offering to give him a easy steal, but Moore refused.

Oh, and here's a trivia question: who are the only players in NBA history with games of at least 20 points, 20 rebounds, and 20 assists (not all the same game)?


Rif.

Wilt Chamberlain
Wilt Chamberlain
and Wilt Chamberlain.

Oh you said not all in the same game....

Magic Johnson
Oscar Robertson

Would be my first 2 guesses.

whottt
11-12-2006, 08:37 PM
Bill Russell would be my third guess.

ShoogarBear
11-12-2006, 08:42 PM
Russ never had 20 assists.
Magic, I'm pretty sure, never had 20 rebounds.

Wilt and Oscar are the only ones you got right, but there is one more.

Zunni
11-12-2006, 08:44 PM
Moore got his almost quad-doub against, I believe, Golden States. Story is the Warriors were offering to give him a easy steal, but Moore refused.

Oh, and here's a trivia question: who are the only players in NBA history with games of at least 20 points, 20 rebounds, and 20 assists (not all the same game)?
20 assists REALLY limits your field. I'd say Magic, Kidd, and Oscar would be the best bets.

Oh, and Mr. Slug, before you check in with your juvenile thread policing...STFU.

whottt
11-12-2006, 08:47 PM
Magic, I'm pretty sure, never had 20 rebounds.

Wilt and Oscar are the only ones you got right, but there is one more.


I'll look and see...I'm pretty sure Magic did have 20 rebounds once upon a time.


As for the third...
Larry Bird?
Wes Unseld?
Bill Walton?
Jordan?

Zunni
11-12-2006, 08:48 PM
Kidd's out. Never got 20 boards.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-12-2006, 08:55 PM
Tim's line:

21 pts
20 rbs
10 asts
8 blks

Yup, I distinctly remember that as a very ugly game in which everyone was struggling but Timmy carried us. Beautiful! :)