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Nbadan
11-12-2006, 03:19 AM
Who the fuck cares what Rahm Emanuel thinks? The M$M that's who and they want to use Emanuel and other centrist Democrats to try and redefine the terms of the 06 Democratic landslide victory and steal the Progressive's glory...

Morning-After Pundits Take Winners to Task
Victorious Dems lectured by media establishment
11/9/06


On the day after Election Day 2006, pundits from major U.S. news outlets had, as one would expect, substantial amounts of political criticism for the party that faced major losses. What is more remarkable is the amount of criticism and caution directed at the party that won major gains.

Virtually unanimously, the political commentators providing the initial analyses of the election for the nation's most influential news outlets downplayed the progressive aspects of the victory, characterizing the large new crop of Democrats as overwhelmingly centrist or even conservative. "These Democrats that were elected last night are conservative Democrats," declared CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer (Early Show, 11/8/06). CNN's Andrea Koppel (American Morning, 11/8/06) referred to the "new batch of moderate and conservative Democrats just elected who will force their party to shift towards the center."

"This is not a majority made from cookie-cutter liberals," wrote Eleanor Clift for Newsweek online (11/8/06). "Some are pro-life, some pro-gun, some sound so Republican they might be in the other party if it weren't for President Bush and the Iraq War." This echoed the thoughts of Fox News' Carl Cameron, who found among victorious Democrats "many pro lifers, a lot of second amendment supporters, those who oppose gay marriage and support bans on flag burning. Things of this nature."

Not that many were "pro-life," actually; NARAL (11/8/06) counted 20 pro-choice votes among the 29 House newcomers. Does anyone think that incoming class is going to make a Democratic-controlled house less likely to block new abortion restrictions? And gun control (for better or worse) hasn't been a serious Democratic priority for more than a decade. One ideological stance that was actually widespread among the incoming Democrats, and one that is actually likely to alter Democratic Party priorities, is an opposition to NAFTA-style trade agreements and an embrace of "fair trade" principles (Public Citizen, 11/8/06)--but this key trend was little noted by the morning-after pundits, presumably because such views are considered akin to a belief in leprechauns by the media establishment (Extra!, 7-8/01). One exception was the Los Angeles Times editorial page, which did take notice--and alarm: "Democrats who wooed anxious voters with sermons about the evils of outsourcing will be reluctant to support freer trade," the paper editorialized (11/8/06), deeming this development "bad for the country."

In the Washington Post (11/8/06), Peter Baker and Jim VandeHei stressed that "party politics will be shaped by the resurgence of 'Blue Dog' Democrats, who come mainly from the South and from rural districts in the Midwest and often vote like Republicans. Top Democrats such as Rep. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.) see these middle-of-the-road lawmakers as the future of the party in a nation that leans slightly right of center."

It's not surprising that Emanuel would see the world that way, since he's a centrist himself who has long been trying to push the Democrats to the right. But the "Blue Dogs" are far from a majority in the new crop of Representatives (nine, according to the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, 11/9/06), or in the Democrat's total ranks (44), so their influence on the party as a whole will be far from overpowering.

What's more, even those "Blue Dogs" are not likely to vote with Republicans on top Democratic Party issues: A Media Matters survey found (11/8/06) that all 27 new Democrats whose races have been called support raising the minimum wage and changing course in Iraq, and they oppose privatizing Social Security. Media Matters found only five openly described themselves as "pro-life."

It’s not just centrist Democrats like Emanuel who are pushing journalists to take this line: CNN anchor Rick Sanchez posed a question (11/8/06) to National Journal writer John Mercurio: "I heard this at least five or six times tonight from Republicans. They say sure, these Democrats that you've elected tonight are running as moderates. Some even sound like conservatives. They have crew cuts, social conservatives, talk about moral issues. When they get to Washington, they're going to find their leadership is filled with liberals. Is there really a dysfunction there?"

Conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks put forth a similar take (11/9/06): "On Tuesday the muscular middle took control of America. Voters kicked out Republicans but did not swing to the left." Brooks wrote that Democrats "will have to show they have not been taken over by their bloggers or their economic nationalists, who will alienate them from the suburban office park moms."

This supposed conflict between what Clift called "the demands of the antiwar left" and "the more moderate voices that helped [House Democrats] win control of the chamber" was a prominent theme. Baker and VandeHei allowed how "the passion of the antiwar movement helped propel party ctivists in this election year," but said that "the Democrats' victory was built on the back of more centrist candidates seizing Republican-leaning districts."

This assumption that war critics and centrists are two opposing camps is peculiar, given that 56 percent of exit-polled voters said they opposed the war; surely they represent the center of opinion, rather than the 42 percent who expressed support. In any case, opposition to the war was a widespread theme among the "more centrist candidates" who captured Republican-held seats (TomPaine.com, 11/8/06).

The pundits' prescription for the Democrats hardly varies (Extra!, 7-8/06), so it was unsurprising to see them urging "bipartisanship" and a move to the right. "In private talks before the election, Emanuel and other top Democrats told their members they cannot allow the party's liberal wing to dominate the agenda next year," Baker and Jim VandeHei reported, citing the centrist Democrats whose analysis of the election results was nearly identical with that of media insiders. (Rick Perlstine made a strong case on the New Republic's website--11/8/06--that Emanuel had less to do with the Democratic victory than did the netroots that he despises.)

"The voters, tired of Washington's divisive ways, want to see the two parties cooperate," wrote Newsweek's Clift. Oddly, though, those voters had recently told Newsweek (Newsweek.com, 10/21/06) that 51 percent of them wanted impeachment to be a priority (either high or low) of a new Democratic majority. It's likely that these people, who wouldn't mind seeing Bush tried for high crimes and misdemeanors, aren't particularly eager to see the representatives they sent to Washington working with him to advance his agenda.

One thing that the new Democratic legislature must surely avoid doing, according to the media analysts, is investigate the old Republican executive: "The danger is that the campaign of '06 will simply continue under the name of 'government,'" wrote Dick Mayer for CBSNews.com (11/8/06). "Many Democrats, for example, are dead set on a new round of aggressive hearings about everything from pre-war intelligence to homeland security to the hunt for Osama bin Laden. The theater of Grand Congressional inquisitions is generally an enemy of statesmanship."

It's troubling, to say the least, when people in the journalism profession see "investigation" and "inquisition" as synonymous. The New York Times' Robin Toner (11/8/06), who was exceptional in not seeing her morning-after analysis as an opportunity to scold the Democratic winners, also stood out in seeing the exercise of Congress' investigatory powers as normal and perhaps even beneficial; of the Democratic House leaders, she wrote that "in many ways, their greatest power will be their ability to investigate, hold hearings and provide the oversight that they asserted was so lacking in recent years."

Other journalists couldn't resist using their analysis of the Republicans' political failings as a chance to get in generic smears of the Democrats. "The outcome brought an end to the Republican Revolution that began in 1994 but lost its way," wrote Michael Duffy and Karen Tumulty for Time.com (11/8/06), "as the party that came to Washington to cut government spending and clean up a corrupt institution ran into scandals of its own and found itself spending like drunken Democrats." Presumably a knowledge of political history is a job requirement for being a political correspondent at Time; when Duffy and Tumulty look back on the past 50 years of U.S. administrations, do they really see it divided into spendthrift Democrats and frugal Republicans?

Suffice it to say that when Newt Gingrich and company swept into power in 1994, no one in the mainstream media was explaining Democratic losses by saying that the politicians who came to Washington in 1974 in response to Nixon's corruption ended up "stealing like Republican crooks."

Tom Brokaw offered a similarly foggy history lesson on election night. "If the Democrats do very well, will it be a huge philosophical shift? Maybe not, because a lot of these Democrats ran to the center. They didn't run like they were running in 1972 again. They ran as more pragmatic public servants this time."

For the record, the party breakdown of the 93rd Congress (1973-75): 242 Democrats, 192 Republicans.

smeagol
11-12-2006, 09:27 AM
Dan, do you really think the majority of people who voted Democrat have your or Boutons political an economic views?

Furthermore, look at the candidates. How many Dennis Kucinich-type democrat candidates that were elected do you see?

xrayzebra
11-12-2006, 10:27 AM
Dan, do you really think the majority of people who voted Democrat have your or Boutons political an economic views?

Furthermore, look at the candidates. How many Dennis Kucinich-type democrat candidates that were elected do you see?

Sure he does, shows how dumb they are. They don't realize yet that
their gains were for people professing conservative views even though
they run as dimm-o-craps. :drunk == :hungry: (interpretation. Drunk on
ignorance staggering on starvation)(Humor)

Here is an article that explains things much better than I can.



LIBS: Standing on the Shoulders of Crash Dummies
By Kevin McCullough
Sunday, November 12, 2006

Liberals have been clucking non-stop since election night at the prospects of what Democrat victory means to their radical causes. In first recruiting, then funding, faith-friendly, conservative, and in a couple of instances even born-again candidates -- the Democrat party captured needed numbers to swipe leadership posts.

The strategy proved extremely effective. Nancy Pelosi will bring San Fran values to the Beltway debate, and Kennedy, Kerry, and Clinton will clamor to be first in line.

But how did she get there? In many instances - by taking advantage of terrible Republicans - and their own criminal wrong doing. But the main strategy was to convince a needed one-fourth of the electorate that the Democrat option on the ballot was not much different than the Republican option. Winning enough of the seats to take control of both houses, Pelosi is free to assign every committee chairmanship in the House, as is Reid in the Senate - to the most disgusting and vile liberal creatures imaginable.

The strategy was so sound it was as though they had taken the ideas right out of my book: MuscleHead Revolution: Overturning Liberalism with Commonsense Thinking or at the very least from the scrap notes of Karl Rove.

Look at how the candidates described themselves: "pro-marriage", "pro-life", "pro-gun", "born-again Christian", "pro-business", "anti-tax,” and in one case "former member of the Reagan administration."

And understand this clearly, it wasn't important that any of them demonstrate these beliefs - merely campaign on them. And in doing so,they campaigned only enough to make the point that in pulling the lever for them - the "common sense" voter wouldn't lose on certain, and vitally important "values" issues.

They invoked Jesus, God, the Bible, marriage, and faith in decibel and volume that would have earned Soros-sized scorn, and Kos-site mockery - were the party to actually let them demonstrate any of it.

But in doing so, they tricked the masses into believing that their positions on such matters would stand as strong as the true-believers that some of them displaced.

So what of it...

In January Speaker-Elect Pelosi will remind Heath Shuler that while he could throw a somewhat average NFL pass back in the day, that on her team - she's the coordinator of offense and he'll only be throwing on her direction.

One of my listeners described this situation perfectly this week calling the freshman class - the Crash Dummies.

They will have no clout, no position, and will be in immediate and desperate need of support and organization. They will not be in position to openly defy Pelosi, Murtha, Reid, and Durbin. Some have gone so far to already admit on the campaign trail that though they hold the position the voter felt was important - they will not "lecture others about morality, like Rick Santorum."

They will need the advice and networking of senior members to get their legislative efforts underway. They will want to try to deliver earmarks for their districts. And in needing to accomplish these things they will be beholding to the horse that "brung 'em" - Pelosi.

A few will attempt independence from the liberal elite that rule the chambers, but none will survive it. Liberals have been out of power for so long now that the only thing pressed upon their minds is to regain the third branch of government in 2008.

Don't misunderstand, Republicans are in even far worse shape - but at least they are waking up to that reality.

The class of the Crash Dummies has much to learn about the beltway and how things work. It doesn't help matters that Pelosi raised on average some $4500 each for them.

What she wants she will get, which come to think of it might leave Hillary in a bit of a pickle.

A sad thing about the functionally empty-suit Crash Dummies is that they will be pretty much a near immediate disappointment to those who sent them there. Make no mistake America did not lurch left on election night.

The saddest thing of all however is that the Crash Dummy class of 2006, while it was a brilliant strategy by the now near Rovian status Emmanuel, is that it removed some of the strongest true believers that social conservatives have ever supported. The likes of George Allan, and Rick Santorum, don't come along often - and their losses are blows to the body that hurt.

And it is those few true believers that our nation will miss most, whether we realize it now or not.

Though at least this way Rick Santorum can fill Justice Stevens spot on the Supreme Court given that the polite traditions of United States Senators do not permit them to filibuster one another...




Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.

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Rick Santorum will be the cause to break that tradition if he is nominated.

boutons_
11-12-2006, 11:00 AM
"moderate and conservative Democrats"

This is same shit where the nut-case radical right/"Christian" base that has pulled the Repugs so far to the right that McCain looks moderate.

As the 2000 and subsequent elections have shown, the US is very evenly divided. I read a comment where US politics is played between the 40-yd lines. The Dems moved the ball from their 45 to the Repug 45.

Just because assholes like Limbaugh has 10M asshole rabble listeners and Coulter sells a few books doesn't mean that America totally radically right. What a fucking ugly country that would be.

And most Americans, judging by the low voting turnouts,

1) don't give a shit about politics (nor think they can do much about it when the candidates are always so crappy)

and/or

2) are disaffected by the professoinal political class.

and/or

3) prefer lazily to "trust" govt to do its job. Katrina and Iraq showed the lazy fuckers that the dubya Repugs were not trustworthy, or even interested, in actually governing.

xrayzebra
11-12-2006, 11:14 AM
boutons, you still don't get it. You consider conservatives as radical rights.

Believe me we aren't.

Also you might once again check something before posting. Rush has about
19 million listeners. And his truthfulness in facts is about 98.5 percent.
Can you say that about your liberal media?

smeagol
11-12-2006, 11:19 AM
Rush is a tool. Don't defend him, please.

xrayzebra
11-12-2006, 11:23 AM
^^Just stating some facts. I don't need to defend him. He does good enough job
by himself.

ploto
11-12-2006, 11:43 AM
Republicans are just mad because they moved too far right in their attempt to rev up the base and get them to turn out to vote. It did not work and they were stuck too far over for the people in the middle- who decide every election- to support them.

They also came out looking like huge hypocrits- which is the risk you take when you run on the notion that you are holier and better, moral people than the other party.

Zunni
11-12-2006, 12:55 PM
^^Just stating some facts. I don't need to defend him. He does good enough job
by himself.
By getting his maid to buy drugs for him? By getting busted with erection enhancers coming back from a known sexual sleaze paradise? Yeah, he does a good job...

FromWayDowntown
11-12-2006, 01:15 PM
The worst thing the newly-elected Democrats could do is play partisan politics and try to push anything other than a fairly centrist agenda.

boutons_
11-12-2006, 01:52 PM
Seems like the Dems are going to try to implement/complete the recommendations of the 9/11 commission, and fix the AMT.

Also, Dems want re-instate the office in Iraq that the Repugs closed to protect their war-profiteering owners.

I don't expect any wild-eyed radicalism and vicious partisanhip that the Repugs have been known for since Gingrich/94. Atwatever, Gingrich, DeLay, Abramoff, Iraq, Katrina, the WTC attack, the bungled war on terror, what a nightmarish period and legacy for the Repugs.

I'd really like to see every fucking earmark identified in the legislative text next to the earmark. Right now, earmarks are anonymous, like the provision that cancelled the above inspectorate/auditor.

The Dems will not accomplish much that the $$owners of Congress don't want them to accomplish.

A majority of Americans want universal health coverage, but the health industry has got us by the short-and-curlies and won't ever let go. They'll spend $100 of Ms to buy enough politicians to maintain their bloody grip on our gonads.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2006, 02:07 PM
How many ways can xray whine about getting his ass kicked?

Extra Stout
11-12-2006, 10:28 PM
Fast forward to 2007 when Dan & Co. are apopletic about the center-left tack the Democratic leadership in Congress is taking.

How big is the "progressive" caucus now? Like 70?

xrayzebra
11-13-2006, 09:43 AM
I don't expect any wild-eyed radicalism and vicious partisanhip that the Repugs have been known for since Gingrich/94. Atwatever, Gingrich, DeLay, Abramoff, Iraq, Katrina, the WTC attack, the bungled war on terror, what a nightmarish period and legacy for the Repugs.

Yep, no wild-eyed radicalism now for the dimm-o-craps, that they have
their mandate. What bloody mandate? But here you go and here they
go with their cut-n-run policy.

UNITED STATES: Democrats to press for troop withdrawal within six months
published: Monday | November 13, 2006

WASHINGTON (Reuters):

Democrats, who won control of the United States Congress, said yesterday they will push for a phased withdrawal of American troops from Iraq to begin in four to six months, but the White House cautioned against fixing timetables.

"First order of business is to change the direction of Iraq policy," said Senator Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat who is expected to be chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee in the new Congress.

Democrats will press President George W. Bush's administration to tell the Iraqi government that U.S. presence was "not open-ended, and that, as a matter of fact, we need to begin a phased redeployment of forces from Iraq in four to six months," Levin said on ABC's 'This Week' programme.

Bush has insisted that U.S. troops would not leave until Iraqis were able to take over security for their country, and has repeatedly rejected setting a timetable for withdrawal because, he says, that would only embolden the insurgents.

New ideas

The White House said, however, that Bush is open to new ideas. Bush will meet today with the bipartisan Iraq Study Group that is expected to recommend alternative policies in its final report.

More than 2,800 American troops have been killed in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion and the unpopular war was a key factor in last week's elections in which Bush's Republican Party lost majorities in the Senate and the House of Representatives.

White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten said it was important that any action be taken in a way to ensure that Iraq can succeed and have a democratic government that can sustain and defend itself.

"It's hard for me to see how that can be done on a fixed timetable," Bolten said on ABC's 'This Week' programme. "But the president's open to fresh ideas here. Everybody's reviewing the situation."

AFBlue
11-13-2006, 10:09 AM
Yep, no wild-eyed radicalism now for the dimm-o-craps, that they have
their mandate. What bloody mandate? But here you go and here they
go with their cut-n-run policy.

UNITED STATES: Democrats to press for troop withdrawal within six months
published: Monday | November 13, 2006

WASHINGTON (Reuters):

Democrats, who won control of the United States Congress, said yesterday they will push for a phased withdrawal of American troops from Iraq to begin in four to six months, but the White House cautioned against fixing timetables.

"First order of business is to change the direction of Iraq policy," said Senator Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat who is expected to be chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee in the new Congress.

Democrats will press President George W. Bush's administration to tell the Iraqi government that U.S. presence was "not open-ended, and that, as a matter of fact, we need to begin a phased redeployment of forces from Iraq in four to six months," Levin said on ABC's 'This Week' programme.

Bush has insisted that U.S. troops would not leave until Iraqis were able to take over security for their country, and has repeatedly rejected setting a timetable for withdrawal because, he says, that would only embolden the insurgents.

New ideas

The White House said, however, that Bush is open to new ideas. Bush will meet today with the bipartisan Iraq Study Group that is expected to recommend alternative policies in its final report.

More than 2,800 American troops have been killed in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion and the unpopular war was a key factor in last week's elections in which Bush's Republican Party lost majorities in the Senate and the House of Representatives.

White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten said it was important that any action be taken in a way to ensure that Iraq can succeed and have a democratic government that can sustain and defend itself.

"It's hard for me to see how that can be done on a fixed timetable," Bolten said on ABC's 'This Week' programme. "But the president's open to fresh ideas here. Everybody's reviewing the situation."

I'm not a democrat, but I've got to applaud them for at least having a "way ahead" together already, while Bush sits and has open discussions. As this administration talks about what to do, more solidiers/ airmen/ sailors/ marines and innocent iraqis die. While I don't support a cut-and-run philosophy, I think this is a positive step because it advocates DOING something rather than talking about doing something.

And the prediction that this is the first step of a cut-and-run strategy seems a bit overreactive. To me, this seems more like a political ploy to put pressure on the iraqi government to accelerate its goal of self-sutainment and place accountability on their shoulders rather than on ours.

101A
11-13-2006, 10:33 AM
...To me, this seems more like a political ploy to put pressure on the iraqi government to accelerate its goal of self-sutainment and place accountability on their shoulders rather than on ours.

Except that it won't work; the Iraqi govt. can't imagine life w/o US troops there right now; six months is simply going to scare the crap out of them, and keep them cozied up to Al Sadr for protection.

boutons_
11-13-2006, 11:24 AM
"pressure on the iraqi government"

Everybody knows the Iraqi govt is a masquerade, a sham.

Iraq is failing/failed state whose future lies in how the civil war is fought and ended.

Iraq is as dead as Yugoslavia, and pretty much for the same ethnic/sectarian reasons.

ChumpDumper
11-13-2006, 02:20 PM
Except that it won't work; the Iraqi govt. can't imagine life w/o US troops there right now; six months is simply going to scare the crap out of them, and keep them cozied up to Al Sadr for protection.The Shia majority can definitely imagine life without US troops, it's the Sunnis that are afraid of their leaving. It'll be interesting to see how long we are willing to stay merely to stave off a good old fashioned ethnic cleansing.

How long would be enough for you?

Me? I agree with McCain that there were never enough toops in Iraq in the first place (nice of you to mention that now, John), but I'm not sure if sending more will solve all the problems he thinks they will.

boutons_
11-13-2006, 03:39 PM
Humpty Dumpty is broken (back in may/june 03), and all dubya's men (more military) can't put it back together again.

Repug political operative Bremer disbanding the Iraqi army and police and letting security go down the toilet never to be seen again was probable the biggest of very many huge mistakes made by the Repugs.