Is San Antonio a "Home Market" for the Cowboys?

[Taco]

http://www.nflgetreal.com/mythvsfact.php


Myth: Customers might miss a home–team game.

Fact: Our customers will not miss ANY home games. The NFL Network is only carrying eight games‚ and if your local team is playing in one of them, you’ll see that game on a local broadcast station.


Still confusing. Is only Dallas Area market considered a "Local Team"

[scott]

I believe we are a "primary" market, but not a "home market"

[Taco]

I believe we are a "primary" market, but not a "home market"

So does that mean we are Screwed?

[veronicamae]

yep, it means we're screwed. time to go to a sports bar that has NFL network!

i'll be in NY at the time, so i'll be at the ESPN Zone for it.

[midgetonadonkey]

Big deal, you fucking Cowboys' fans don't get to see a game. Fucking KENS 5 decides the Texans aren't good enough to show on a weekly basis. Fuck KENS and fuck the Cowboys.

[leemajors]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/061114&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos1

Today the Senate Judiciary Committee holds a hearing on whether the DirecTV monopoly on Sunday Ticket is anti-consumer and constitutes restraint of trade. Finally, Congress has noticed this issue! TMQ's prediction: The NFL, which seriously does not want Congress rethinking the antitrust exemption granted to the league in 1961 over its television contracts, better move pronto to make Sunday Ticket available to all cable carriers. The 1961 agreement with Congress specifies that in exchange for an antitrust exemption, the NFL will make its broadcasts available to everyone. Instead, the Sunday Ticket broadcast operates under a monopoly structure. Congress is already in a foul mood about the NCAA's tax-exempt status for profitable D-I football. The new Congress will want to differentiate itself from the last by being pro-consumer. The NFL's television contracts are worth nearly $4 billion a year; the league would be foolish to run any risk with that sum. Roger Goodell, change your deal with DirecTV before Congress changes it for you.

this sounds awesome. i would at least like the option of ordering Sunday Ticket on TWC at some point in the future.

[dallaskd]

Why dont you guys get a team in SA or is the market not big enough.

[beachbarbie948]

Big deal, you fucking Cowboys' fans don't get to see a game. Fucking KENS 5 decides the Texans aren't good enough to show on a weekly basis. Fuck KENS and fuck the Cowboys.

I know what you mean. It sucks. We got to see, what? Cincinnati vs San Diego on Sunday instead of Houston vs Jacksonville? Gah, we're closer to both Houston AND Jacksonville, but nooo, we have to see some northern vs west coast crap.

[Taco]

Big deal, you fucking Cowboys' fans don't get to see a game. Fucking KENS 5 decides the Texans aren't good enough to show on a weekly basis. Fuck KENS and fuck the Cowboys.

You know what I think it's totally crap that they don't show the Texan's game down here.

Show both Texas Teams in San Anotnio

[mardigan]

Its the Atlanta game that is being blacked out, I guess they dont want us to see Ware end Vicks career

[kskonn]

You know what I think it's totally crap that they don't show the Texan's game down here.

Show both Texas Teams in San Anotnio

Well unfortunately the market surveys show that kens can make more money showing either another football team or old re runs. If the Texans would stop being shitty they would get some more air time.

[mardigan]

all I know is that Wali Lundy is better than Reggie Bush, and the NFL is conspiring against the Texans because they dont want the rest of the world to know that the Texans got the real best running back in the draft

[leemajors]

all I know is that Wali Lundy is better than Reggie Bush, and the NFL is conspiring against the Texans because they dont want the rest of the world to know that the Texans got the real best running back in the draft

addai is better than lundy.

[mardigan]

addai is better than lundy.
I was joking, I know Addai is better

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

San Antonio's not getting the Texans this weekend either.

[scott]

I wonder if we have been made a secondary market for New Orleans (that is the game we get this weekend before Indy @ Dal)?

[veronicamae]

Big deal, you fucking Cowboys' fans don't get to see a game. Fucking KENS 5 decides the Texans aren't good enough to show on a weekly basis. Fuck KENS and fuck the Cowboys.

wow. down boy.

it's because SA isn't a very market for the Texans, but is huge for the Cowboys.

[veronicamae]

Being in Corpus Christi I'm curious if this will affect us.

The Dallas-Atlanta game will only be on broadcast TV in Dallas. Otherwise, everyone else has to watch it on the NFL Network.

No exceptions.

:(

[txjumpshot21]

Well unfortunately the market surveys show that kens can make more money showing either another football team or old re runs. If the Texans would stop being shitty they would get some more air time.

Dallas isn't all that hot themselves, especially 3 or 4 years ago, but they have a bunch of fans who hopped on the bandwagon way back when and still believe the Cowboys will make it to the Super Bowl "this year"

[Melmart1]

That might be the dumbest assessment of Cowboys fandom I have ever heard. There are way more loyal, diehard fans than bandwagonners. The bandwaggoners have had nothing to cheer about for a decade now. They may get some new ones if they make the playoffs this year but for the most part, these are diehards you find at the games and watching.

[MannyIsGod]

San Antonio won't get the Cowboys game thats on the NFL network. If you check the NFL's site and go to the part where they are talking about Time Warner, they specifically mention San Antonio and Austin as outside the home market.

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.iwantnflnetwork.com/grtw.html

Time Warner Says:
Our customers will not miss ANY home games.

The truth is:

Fans in Madison, WI consider themselves Packers’ home fans. People in San Antonio and Austin think of their cities as Cowboys Country. If you live in those areas you may miss your teams on NFL Network and you will not get these games on over-the-air television because you live too far from Dallas or Green Bay. And you will also miss games including the Steelers, Seahawks, Giants, Broncos, Chiefs, and more.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Notice the wording from TWC.



Myth: Customers might miss a home–team game.

Fact: Our customers will not miss ANY home games. The NFL Network is only carrying eight games‚ and if your local team is playing in one of them, you’ll see that game on a local broadcast station.


But of course, Dallas is playing @ Atlanta.

[LEONARD]

Mexicans love the Cowboys for whatever reason, so San Antonio and all of south TX is probably thick with Cowboy fans... :fro

[Taco]

Mexicans love the Cowboys for whatever reason, so San Antonio and all of south TX is probably thick with Cowboy fans... :fro

Go outside during a cowboys game you can hear the neighbors yelling when the cowboys score


it doesn't matter what neighborhood you live in

[StylisticS]

Directv is your friend. Glad I have it.

[Taco]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/stories/MYSA121206.01E.NFLNetwork.282ca0b.html

Time Warner goes on offense vs. the NFL

Web Posted: 12/11/2006 08:38 PM CST

Sanford Nowlin
Express-News Business Writer

Time Warner Cable is aiming a new local ad blitz at the NFL after facing weeks of public pressure from the league for not carrying its fledgling cable network.
Starting today, the city's dominant cable provider will run 30-second TV spots and newspaper ads explaining its position in a programming dispute with the NFL. The company is balking at the network's price and at the league's insistence that the network be included in a basic package rather than on a sports tier for which subscribers pay extra.

"The NFL wants you to pay $140 million to watch football," the spots say, amid images of a football referee throwing a penalty flag for unsportsmanlike conduct and unnecessary roughness. "That's one game we won't play."

The ads come as it looks like San Antonio fans will miss Saturday's Dallas Cowboys-Atlanta Falcons game because of the protracted and increasingly public fight. The game will be carried on network TV in Dallas, but is available only on NFL Network here.

Several other services, including satellite broadcasters Dish Network and DirecTV and AT&T Inc.'s U-verse, carry the NFL Network.


The Cowboys-Falcons contest is one of eight games the NFL Network will carry this year, and it might have pulled high ratings here as fans clamor to catch Dallas' final match-ups before it claims a likely place in the playoffs.

The Alamo City ranked second in the nation behind Dallas-Fort Worth in viewers of Sunday night's Dallas Cowboys-New Orleans Saints game, according to Nielsen Media Research data.

"I am dismayed and I'm really taken aback that this game is not going to be able to be seen by a large percentage of our fans," said Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, who sits on the NFL owners' broadcast committee.

"I'm really surprised that it's come to this point with Time Warner."

The NFL has run its own ads in recent weeks urging football fans to call Time Warner and demand that it carry the network. After Saturday, the network will have just three games left this season.

Such disputes among cable systems and networks are increasingly common as the systems struggle to keep prices down amid competition from satellite providers and phone companies like AT&T.

However, the tussle with the NFL marks the first time Time Warner has taken out local ads to explain itself, spokesman Jon Gary Herrera said.

"This dispute is unprecedented in terms of the profile," Herrera said. "And it's not just Time Warner. There are other significant players in the cable industry who are trying to insulate their customers from the price that the NFL is asking."

The NFL's asking price would put the network among the five most-costly that Time Warner carries. The cable company, which has 13.5 million subscribers nationwide, wants to put the NFL Network on a sports tier where it can ask a higher price from interested customers and avoid passing on the expense to the rest.

New York's Cablevision Systems and San Marcos-based Grande Communications Inc. also have not reached agreements with the NFL. And the league has sued cable giant Comcast Communications after it moved the network to a sports tier.

"This is an interesting case because the NFL is speaking directly to the fans past the cable providers and asking them to force the cable providers to carry the network," said Jennifer Henderson, a Trinity University media studies professor. "We still don't know if it's an approach that will work in the long run."

While the NFL is butting heads with some carriers, league spokesman Seth Palansky said it has hammered out deals with dozens of others, including Dish Network and DirecTV and AT&T's U-verse.

"If it's true that none of Time Warner's customers are upset about this, why are they running this ad campaign?" Palansky asked. "We know that new subscriptions to satellite providers like Dish Network are up in your market."

Dish and DirecTV have said the Time Warner-NFL scrap has helped generate interest in their services. While San Antonio-based AT&T said the NFL Network could help set it apart from Time Warner, officials haven't said whether it has boosted subscriber numbers.

Herrera acknowledged that some customers have canceled Time Warner service here over the dispute, but he said that number is "under 100." New video installations for the company — which serves 360,000 San Antonio households — were up 12 percent in November from a year ago.

"We've heard from just as many customers who want us to hold the line with the NFL as we have customers who want us to carry the network," Herrera said.