LOL, unless you have a 1080p TV, PS3 downconverts to 480p

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746282p1.html


November 15, 2006 - As final PlayStation 3 units continue to trickle into more and more hands, additional details about how the system works and what it can and can't do are hitting the web. The latest (rather major) tidbit is how the console treats the upscaling and downscaling of 720p titles on televisions that don't support that resolution -- specifically those that are only 1080i capable.

As it turns out, gamers who own older HD sets that feature only 480i, 480p, and 1080i resolution input capabilities will have to settle for the display quality being downsized as the game boots in its 480p mode rather than upscaling the image from its more desirable 720p mode to the TV's 1080i. We tested this development on older HDTV sets with games designed for 720p but not 1080i -- Resistance: Fall of Man, NHL 2K7, Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07, and Need for Speed Carbon. Sure enough, the system downshifted all four titles to 480p rather than moving up to 1080i.

The PlayStation 3's competitor, Microsoft's Xbox 360, does upscale 720p games to 1080i if the HD set supports the latter resolution but not the in-between and commonly-employed 720p resolution.

IGN contacted Sony representatives for comment regarding this feature, but SCEA spokespeople have yet to return our phone calls as we went to press (we'll update this story when they do). It is not known yet if this is purely a software issue or a deeper technical problem and whether or not this lack of upscaling might be resolved on launch PS3 systems in future updates of the hardware via downloadable firmware patches.

For the laymen, 720p is a high-definition format that offers a complete 720-pixel line frame on the screen at 24 to 60 frames per second (progressive), while the 1080i signal is presented as two 540-pixel fields that when displayed back to back look like a complete image (interlaced). The difference being that a 720p picture offers quicker refresh rates while 1080i offers more detail with stationary imagery. The maximum resolution of the PlayStation 3 (and currently the maximum for available HDTV sets) is 1080p. It is thus capable of displaying all major standard-definition and high-definition video outputs wherever HD standards are employed (in PS3 games and Blu-Ray Movies, most commonly), but as has already been reported about PS1/PS2 games and DVD playback, it does not currently upscale any lower resolution images to higher image standards.

Thanks go out to our readers at the IGN message boards for bringing this to our attention.

Even if you have a 1080i screen, you get downrezzed to 480p. Pretty fucking lame for $600. 480p is PS2 and Xbox res.

[TDMVPDPOY]

so does that man everyone got duped into buyin a HD system?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well, unless you drop a couple of grand on a 1080p set, if you were hooked on the PS3, sounds like you're screwed.

Considering 1080p was Sony's big push on selling this thing, this is incredibly fucking lame.

[dirk4mvp]

wow

I'm getting a 360 for x-mas, so I ain't worried about shit :smokin

[DirkAB]

Wow, that's gay.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

wow

I'm getting a 360 for x-mas, so I ain't worried about shit :smokin

Dude, you were on here a couple of weeks ago telling the whole world how much better the PS3 is than the 360 :lol

[THE HATER]

wow that sucks.

[MannyIsGod]

Well, most TVs support 1080i and 720p now. It is really gay that it downscales it to 480p instead of 720p though. Thats just retarded. They can probably fix that with a firmware upgrade though.

I don't think that will be a huge issue though. Like I said before, most TVs now will accept either 1080i or 720p. I wonder what it does if your TV doesn't support 1080p. When games are in 1080p I hope it'll just show it as 1080i.

[goliath]

The title of this thread is wrong.

The article, and problem, deal with 720p not 1080p.

If your tv only has 1080i, 480p and 480i (and not 720p), for games made for 720p the games are downgraded to 480 not upgraded to 1080 like with the xbox 360.

So its unless you have a tv that has 720p not 1080p.

[TDMVPDPOY]

and i read that ps3 wont be able to play some ps1 games, so you gotto wait till they send an upgrade software.....once again nothing is perfect

[dirk4mvp]

Dude, you were on here a couple of weeks ago telling the whole world how much better the PS3 is than the 360 :lol


It still is, I just gotta play Gears :lol :fro

[Ballcox]

The Sony people and their PS3 can go straight to hell, they've been screwing consumers since the PS2 release. Me, I'm very happy with my 360 and the huge amount of quality games coming out through next year. Sony ain't gettin' 600 bucks from me.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I remember when TV discussion entirely focussed on how large your screen was.

You kids confuse me with all this talk of "pixels, 1080, 480, little men in green suits" yada yada yada.





Pong was a fun game.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Why is it XBOX 360 owners feel the need to bag on the PS3 and pimp their XBOX system? If you feel your xbox is better then go ahead enjoy it and STFU! I've seen about 50 different thread in here talking about how stupid people are for buying the PS3 why everyone should buy the XBOX and shit! damn! if I didn't know better I'd say microsoft is paying you people on commission. Why don't you people STFU and let the consoles speak for themselves? If the XBOX 360 is so much better then it should be made more than evident when the PS3 comes out.

Personally, I'm not buying the PS3 until its so old PS5 is going to be on the market. $600 if way the fuck too much money to pay for ANY gaming system IMO.

[Oscar DeLa]

i dont know what it is but i found it ironic that my nearly 8 year old playstation inexplicably broke on the advent of the ps3

[MaNuMaNiAc]

i dont know what it is but i found it ironic that my nearly 8 year old playstation inexplicably broke on the advent of the ps3programed that way by the evil Sony empire

- XBOX owner since 2001 -


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[Oscar DeLa]

i dont know what it is but the xbox was such an overrated peice of equipment it was like the USC of consoles

xbox 360 is good though.

[Mixability]

Why is it XBOX 360 owners feel the need to bag on the PS3 and pimp their XBOX system? If you feel your xbox is better then go ahead enjoy it and STFU! I've seen about 50 different thread in here talking about how stupid people are for buying the PS3 why everyone should buy the XBOX and shit! damn! if I didn't know better I'd say microsoft is paying you people on commission. Why don't you people STFU and let the consoles speak for themselves? If the XBOX 360 is so much better then it should be made more than evident when the PS3 comes out.

Personally, I'm not buying the PS3 until its so old PS5 is going to be on the market. $600 if way the fuck too much money to pay for ANY gaming system IMO.

Thats why I just buy each console, you get the best of both(3) worlds. I don't miss out on Halo 3, the new Zelda or Metal Gear.

[baseline bum]

I pimp the XBox360 over the PS3 because I've played both very extensively, and the 360 is hands down better for this year. Anyone who buys a PS3 to play it right now is fucking retarded unless they're really that into Resistance: Fall of Man, which is the only good game PS3 will have this year.

You can bet I'm buying a PS3 when Metal Gear 4 comes out though. That game looks fucking amazing, and is a PS3 exclusive.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm glad I'm not a big time gamer. I'm sticking to my PS2. Screw dropping $600 on a game.

[tlongII]

I do not own any video games.

[Richard Cranium]

As much as you "hit it" I can see why.

[CharlieMac]

Im getting the Wii either way.

[dirk4mvp]

i dont know what it is but the xbox was such an overrated peice of equipment it was like the USC of consoles

xbox 360 is good though.


Halo saved the xbox's ass.

The ps2 is, and always has been better than the xbox, regardless of the xbox having better hardware.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Why is it XBOX 360 owners feel the need to bag on the PS3 and pimp their XBOX system? If you feel your xbox is better then go ahead enjoy it and STFU! I've seen about 50 different thread in here talking about how stupid people are for buying the PS3

There's just as many threads by Sony fanboys pimping the PS3 and trashing the 360. Sorry to hit a nerve. I just thought this was relevant news as much as Sony has been pushing 1080p and also its upconverting capabilities.

If you don't want to read, don't click on the thread.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

There's just as many threads by Sony fanboys pimping the PS3 and trashing the 360. Sorry to hit a nerve. I just thought this was relevant news as much as Sony has been pushing 1080p and also its upconverting capabilities.

If you don't want to read, don't click on the thread.

it wasn't just about this thread. Its gotten to a point where people look like 5 year old brats bragging about whose got the better toy. Pathetic

[Mixability]

it wasn't just about this thread. Its gotten to a point where people look like 5 year old brats bragging about whose got the better toy. Pathetic

Yeah cause I'm sure that consoles are the ONLY thing we brag about. We're men, aren't you. Whether it's saying my Corvette is better than your Mustang, my bbq grill is better than yours or my HDTV is bigger than yours, it's ALWAYS A PISSING CONTEST.

Hype never lives up to reality, whether it's Microsoft or Sony. When the next Xbox comes out and only makes 2 grilled cheese sandwiches instead of the advertised 3, we'll make sure to read your thread outlining every aspect of the missing grilled cheese sandwich and why Microsoft couldn't deliver on their hype.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Im getting the Wii either way.So am I. METROID REIGNS ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll be interested to see how the ps3 plays out. of course it's going to sell, but I wonder if Sony put all their eggs in one basket and have their fingers crossed. i just saw how much it costs to produce one. they're losing $200 to $300 per console. they said it would take 3 years to get the production cost to $320. THREE YEARS. the way i see, they're starting in the hole and it's pretty far to the top. sony better hope they don't have a glitch like the xbox 360 had when it came out. if so, i think it'll be bad news for them. very bad news.