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xrayzebra
11-20-2006, 05:02 PM
Okay folks, would this work in San Antonio? Like on Bandara Road
during rush hour? No traffic lights. Just hand signals and nods......



SPIEGEL ONLINE - November 16, 2006, 02:39 PM
URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,448747,00.html
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European Cities Do Away with Traffic Signs

By Matthias Schulz

Are streets without traffic signs conceivable? Seven cities and regions in Europe are giving it a try -- with good results.

Drachten in the Netherlands has gotten rid of 16 of its traffic light crossings and converted the other two to roundabouts.
Ben Behnke

Drachten in the Netherlands has gotten rid of 16 of its traffic light crossings and converted the other two to roundabouts.
"We reject every form of legislation," the Russian aristocrat and "father of anarchism" Mikhail Bakunin once thundered. The czar banished him to Siberia. But now it seems his ideas are being rediscovered.

European traffic planners are dreaming of streets free of rules and directives. They want drivers and pedestrians to interact in a free and humane way, as brethren -- by means of friendly gestures, nods of the head and eye contact, without the harassment of prohibitions, restrictions and warning signs.

A project implemented by the European Union is currently seeing seven cities and regions clear-cutting their forest of traffic signs. Ejby, in Denmark, is participating in the experiment, as are Ipswich in England and the Belgian town of Ostende.

The utopia has already become a reality in Makkinga, in the Dutch province of Western Frisia. A sign by the entrance to the small town (population 1,000) reads "Verkeersbordvrij" -- "free of traffic signs." Cars bumble unhurriedly over precision-trimmed granite cobblestones. Stop signs and direction signs are nowhere to be seen. There are neither parking meters nor stopping restrictions. There aren't even any lines painted on the streets.

"The many rules strip us of the most important thing: the ability to be considerate. We're losing our capacity for socially responsible behavior," says Dutch traffic guru Hans Monderman, one of the project's co-founders. "The greater the number of prescriptions, the more people's sense of personal responsibility dwindles."

Monderman could be on to something. Germany has 648 valid traffic symbols. The inner cities are crowded with a colorful thicket of metal signs. Don't park over here, watch out for passing deer over there, make sure you don't skid. The forest of signs is growing ever denser. Some 20 million traffic signs have already been set up all over the country.

Psychologists have long revealed the senselessness of such exaggerated regulation. About 70 percent of traffic signs are ignored by drivers. What's more, the glut of prohibitions is tantamount to treating the driver like a child and it also foments resentment. He may stop in front of the crosswalk, but that only makes him feel justified in preventing pedestrians from crossing the street on every other occasion. Every traffic light baits him with the promise of making it over the crossing while the light is still yellow.

"Unsafe is safe"

The result is that drivers find themselves enclosed by a corset of prescriptions, so that they develop a kind of tunnel vision: They're constantly in search of their own advantage, and their good manners go out the window.

The new traffic model's advocates believe the only way out of this vicious circle is to give drivers more liberty and encourage them to take responsibility for themselves. They demand streets like those during the Middle Ages, when horse-drawn chariots, handcarts and people scurried about in a completely unregulated fashion. The new model's proponents envision today's drivers and pedestrians blending into a colorful and peaceful traffic stream.

It may sound like chaos, but it's only the lesson drawn from one of the insights of traffic psychology: Drivers will force the accelerator down ruthlessly only in situations where everything has been fully regulated. Where the situation is unclear, they're forced to drive more carefully and cautiously.

Indeed, "Unsafe is safe" was the motto of a conference where proponents of the new roadside philosophy met in Frankfurt in mid-October.

True, many of them aren't convinced of the new approach. "German drivers are used to rules," says Michael Schreckenberg of Duisburg University. If clear directives are abandoned, domestic rush-hour traffic will turn into an Oriental-style bazaar, he warns. He believes the new vision of drivers and pedestrians interacting in a cozy, relaxed way will work, at best, only for small towns.

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But one German borough is already daring to take the step into lawlessness. The town of Bohmte in Lower Saxony has 13,500 inhabitants. It's traversed by a country road and a main road. Cars approach speedily, delivery trucks stop to unload their cargo and pedestrians scurry by on elevated sidewalks.

The road will be re-furbished in early 2007, using EU funds. "The sidewalks are going to go, and the asphalt too. Everything will be covered in cobblestones," Klaus Goedejohann, the mayor, explains. "We're getting rid of the division between cars and pedestrians."

The plans derive inspiration and motivation from a large-scale experiment in the town of Drachten in the Netherlands, which has 45,000 inhabitants. There, cars have already been driving over red natural stone for years. Cyclists dutifully raise their arm when they want to make a turn, and drivers communicate by hand signs, nods and waving.

"More than half of our signs have already been scrapped," says traffic planner Koop Kerkstra. "Only two out of our original 18 traffic light crossings are left, and we've converted them to roundabouts." Now traffic is regulated by only two rules in Drachten: "Yield to the right" and "Get in someone's way and you'll be towed."

Strange as it may seem, the number of accidents has declined dramatically. Experts from Argentina and the United States have visited Drachten. Even London has expressed an interest in this new example of automobile anarchy. And the model is being tested in the British capital's Kensington neighborhood.


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ChumpDumper
11-20-2006, 05:06 PM
There would be plenty of hand signals. Very few nods, however.

PixelPusher
11-20-2006, 05:09 PM
Good luck trying to make left hand turns at busy intersections without stoplights.

Extra Stout
11-20-2006, 05:14 PM
Good luck trying to make left hand turns at busy intersections without stoplights.
Thus, the roundabouts.

Bob Lanier
11-20-2006, 05:15 PM
Roundabouts are the devil's work.

Other than that, this theory looks like a prime example of "missing the point", which while common among libertarians was hardly invented by them. I hope they're not expecting this to work any wonders in Rome...

PixelPusher
11-20-2006, 05:19 PM
Thus, the roundabouts.
In Europe, not here in the U.S.

It's also notable that Germany and The Netherlands have more stringent standards for optaining a license to drive (Italy...eh, not so much...)

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-22-2006, 01:34 AM
I live in a small city literally full of roundabouts, both small suburban ones and big ones on arterials. They work extremely well, as long as drivers understand how to use them (give way to the right, first on the roundabout has right of way, indicate your exit).

As for the OP, maybe a good idea in small towns, but a recipe for gridlock in cities.

And I think they got it the behavioural causation wrong - people have lost respect for their fellow citizens in general, and that causes aggressive drving and poor road manners, not having road rules!

shelshor
11-22-2006, 02:36 AM
As someone said, roundabouts work great as long as everyone understands what they're supposed to do, then do it
No traffic signs would have a better chance of working in San Antonio than in Austin, since SA's drivers are generally more curtious and friendly than Austin's

boutons_
11-22-2006, 11:52 AM
"as long as everyone understands what they're supposed to do"

... which probably why round-abouts aren't popular in the dumbed-down USA.
The sheeple wouldn't be able to figure them out and keep them figuredout, since nothing else requires them to think anymore.

xrayzebra
11-23-2006, 11:13 AM
"as long as everyone understands what they're supposed to do"

... which probably why round-abouts aren't popular in the dumbed-down USA.
The sheeple wouldn't be able to figure them out and keep them figuredout, since nothing else requires them to think anymore.

Well we had them at one time, all over the U.S., some may even exist
in this day and age. Last one I saw was in Boston in 1973. They really
aren't the most effect way to control traffic. England bears this out since
at some the roundabouts they now also have traffic lights controlling traffic
entering into the roundabout. But they continue to build them over there
even at the minor intersections. Go figure.

mikejones99
11-23-2006, 03:09 PM
Take women off the roads and it might work.

Trainwreck2100
11-23-2006, 06:55 PM
This goes on the principle that people are capable of acting unselfishly, it goes courtesy goes away when someone is running late.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-23-2006, 11:05 PM
Well we had them at one time, all over the U.S., some may even exist
in this day and age. Last one I saw was in Boston in 1973. They really
aren't the most effect way to control traffic. England bears this out since
at some the roundabouts they now also have traffic lights controlling traffic
entering into the roundabout. But they continue to build them over there
even at the minor intersections. Go figure.

I repeat that they work just fine in Canberra, and we have hundreds of the things. So I'd say it's not simply that "roundabouts don't work", but they they work in specific traffic circumstances.

However, we also have a road system that was planned from inception of the city (Canberra didn't develop naturally over time - it was planned and then built according to the plan), and we also have a 40% tertiary educated population (extremely high level), so maybe that's a factor. :lol

xrayzebra
11-24-2006, 10:09 AM
...... and we also have a 40% tertiary educated population (extremely high level), so maybe that's a factor. :lol

Think you will ever join that group? :lol Just pulling you leg...... :lol

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-24-2006, 06:44 PM
Oh, Ray, you funnybones! :lol

On a more serious note, what's with the anti-intellectualism taking over the developed world? Learning is a good thing.