It's Almost Christmas and You Know What That Means...

[Nbadan]

...time to reve up the War on ChristmasTM again....



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DENVER (AP) - A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.

Some residents who have complained have children serving in Iraq, said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs. He said some residents have also believed it was a symbol of Satan. Three or four residents complained, he said.

"Somebody could put up signs that say drop bombs on Iraq. If you let one go up you have to let them all go up," he said in a telephone interview Sunday.

Lisa Jensen said she wasn't thinking of the war when she hung the wreath. She said, "Peace is way bigger than not being at war. This is a spiritual thing."

Jensen, a past association president, calculates the fines will cost her about $1,000, and doubts they will be able to make her pay. But she said she's not going to take it down until after Christmas.

Las Vegas Sun (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2006/nov/26/112602743.html)

The Peace sign satanic? Oh, the Irony...the irony...

[PixelPusher]

A man's home is his castle...unless his home is part of a Homeowners Association.

Free country my ass...

[Clandestino]

he didn't have to move into the neighborhood.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Oh oh..those secular progressives are coming again!!!!!!! :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

Ignorant hicks.

I guess they declared a war on peace now.

[boutons_]

Clanny, the anti-libertarian, will ALWAYS favor the institution/mob over the individual.

The HOA doesn't have to be full of ignorant, close-minded, self-satisfied, Bible-thumping hicks forcefully imposing their ignorance onto others' lives. motherfuckers.

Pagosa Springs: pop. 1600.

[Guru of Nothing]

I endorse misery upon anyone who signs a Homeowner's Association agreement.

[smeagol]

The title of this thread is missleading.

[xrayzebra]

And then you have this little column. All About Christmas.


The assault on Christmas
By Don Kroah
Monday, November 27, 2006

While Wal-Mart has apparently seen the error of its ways (or at least of its bad business judgment) and done an about-face from last year’s ban on employees’ use of the words Merry Christmas in greeting customers, the war on public celebration of one of the nation’s holiest days continues unabated.

In announcing a volunteer cadre of more than 930 allied attorneys available across the nation prepared to combat efforts to censor Christmas celebrations in schools and on public property, the Alliance Defense Fund noted that surveys indicate 95% of Americans celebrate Christmas. “Yet,” said the ADF, “due to political correctness, disinformation, and even the threat of lawsuits from the ACLU and its allies, religious expression at Christmastime is increasingly absent from the public square.”

Citing other equally-significant poll results, the ADF also noted that: 90 percent of Americans recognized Christmas as the birthday of Jesus Christ; 88 percent say its okay for people to wish others “Merry Christmas”; a majority of Americans are more likely to wish someone they just met “Merry Christmas” rather than “Happy Holidays”; and 87% of Americans believe nativity scenes should be allowed on public property.

In light of such findings, and of the continuing efforts (though denied) by the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United For Separation of Church and State to assault public expressions of Christmas at every turn, the ADF has launched its Fourth Annual Christmas Project, aimed at “informing all Americans about the Truth—that they have the freedom to celebrate Christmas publicly, joyfully, and without fear—for generations to come, and to spread the message ‘Merry Christmas. It’s okay to say it.™’”

However, while commending the ADF and its lawyers for the invaluable services it is offering, it is important that we realize there other things each of us can do, as well.

One: Become informed about the relentless assault on religious symbols and expressions that have, historically, been integral to who we are as a nation. With the limitless access to information most of us now enjoy via the Internet, this is not difficult to do.

Two: Refuse to cave in to the pressure of political correctness, whether in our own daily speech or in conversations with others. For example, when confronted with the usual “Happy Holidays” at this time of year, why not respond politely but directly with “Merry Christmas”?

Three: Refuse to shop at retailers who are openly hostile to religious beliefs, symbols or expressions – and let them know of your decision! Do it politely, but do it firmly.

Four: Express your concerns with letters, phone calls, emails, and/or faxes to the appropriate corporate leaders, city officials, and others who have the power to make decisions affecting the constant efforts to “secularize” our culture. Wal-Mart’s recent reversal is an example of what can be done, as boycotts by The American Family Association (AFA) and the Catholic League are credited for Wal-Mart’s decision to come to its senses regarding the issue.

The bottom line? People of faith and traditional values can either spend their time and energy whining and complaining that the culture is “going to hell in a hand-basket,” or they can begin to play a bit of informed offense and move the ball down the field and into the end zone against the cultural grinches of the day. The worst way to lose a game is by default – never even showing up on the field. On the other hand, no team has ever won by simply playing impeccable defense!

And for Christians especially, such action isn’t an option. When the Lord said “You are the salt of the earth… You are the light of the world” (Matthew 5:13-14), He intended that we do something, rather than merely whine about evil’s effectiveness in determining our culture’s direction.


The Don Kroah Show can be heard Monday through Friday from 5 to 7 p.m. on WAVA at 780am and 105.1fm-WAVA, and on the internet at www.wava.com.

Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.

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Oh, did I forget to say: Merry Christmas everyone! :toast

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, did I forget to say: Merry Christmas everyone!Sure, but not "peace on earth."

That'll be $25....

[George Gervin's Afro]

Who Cares If A Sign Says Merry Christmas! Good God We Have An Unecessary War Raging On With Young And Innocent Needlessly Dying And We Have Our 'compassionate Conservatives' Hear At Home Worrying About Walmart And Whether Thay Have A Merry Christmas Sign Hanging!

[xrayzebra]

Who Cares If A Sign Says Merry Christmas! Good God We Have An Unecessary War Raging On With Young And Innocent Needlessly Dying And We Have Our 'compassionate Conservatives' Hear At Home Worrying About Walmart And Whether Thay Have A Merry Christmas Sign Hanging!

You are speaking of Kosovo, right? Wasn't that a civil war? Don't we
still have troops there? Hmmmmmm. Strange.

[ChumpDumper]

You are speaking of Kosovo, right? Wasn't that a civil war? Don't we
still have troops there? Hmmmmmm. Strange.How many people a day are dying there? Did we cherry pick made-up intel about WMDs to invade? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[George Gervin's Afro]

You are speaking of Kosovo, right? Wasn't that a civil war? Don't we
still have troops there? Hmmmmmm. Strange.



Hey your changing to subject... right ray? you and your bretheren in claim in an other thread we change the subject when we produce examples that aren't related to the subject at hand..so I guess you can change the subject but we can't?

[xrayzebra]

Nah, the liberals just called it an extermination of people, which of course justified
any action. But Saddam doing the same doesn't count. And there was WMD, as
has been fully verified by the dimm-o-craps wanting the A-bomb plans taken off
the internet....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Of course what Kosovo was about was a religious war, a true civil war.

[clambake]

To Bush, Kosovo is a wet dream.

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, the liberals just called it an extermination of people, which of course justified
any action.It was happening, and because of us it's happening now in Iraq. Good for us.
But Saddam doing the same doesn't count.Of course not, because he was our boy when he did it. Then when he wasn't, we still left him in power because Bushie's father knew what a cluster fuck would result from removing him.
And there was WMDWhere are they?
Of course what Kosovo was about was a religious war, a true civil war.Just because the situation in Iraq is too complicated for you to understand doesn't mean it isn't a civil war.

[xrayzebra]

To Clam, do you have resort to that: wet dreams?

[Nbadan]

Bah hum-bug!! Looks like the Christmas spirit has won out again...


DENVER A Colorado woman can display her Christmas wreath shaped like a peace sign after all.

The homeowners' association in the Pagosa Springs subdivision where Lisa Jensen lives has withdrawn its threat to fine her 25 dollars a day unless she removed the wreath.

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Jensen tells The A-P she got a letter from the board last night that called the incident a "misunderstanding."

Before the order was rescinded, Jensen said she received hundreds of calls of support and offers to help her pay the thousand-dollar fine that would have been due if she kept the wreath up until after Christmas.

wane (http://www.wane.com/Global/story.asp?S=5736572&nav=0RYb)

[boutons_]

I bet the HOA will "get" them some other way, sooner or later.

[Trainwreck2100]

I bet the HOA will "get" them some other way, sooner or later.


Bingo cause all HOA are assholes like that