View Full Version : Cowboys Drop Vanderjagt
GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
11-27-2006, 05:32 PM
Finnnnnnnnallllly
Signed Martin Gramatica
2centsworth
11-27-2006, 05:45 PM
saw that,big news. The guy is a mental case.
GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
11-27-2006, 05:50 PM
saw that,big news. The guy is a mental case.
If the Cowboys can somehow find a consistent kicker, they will be very tough to beat
Not for freaking Martin Grammatica.
2centsworth
11-27-2006, 06:20 PM
At least Grammatica has made super bowl kicks. I never saw vanderjagt make an important kick and told everyone he would choke when the cowboys signed him.
SAtown
11-27-2006, 06:22 PM
Hell yeah, Grammatica rules!!! :nutkick:
Mr.Bottomtooth
11-27-2006, 06:27 PM
:danceclub Anyone is better than Vanderchoke.
Amarelooms
11-27-2006, 06:31 PM
Hmmm don't like this....not an upgrade...might even be a downgrade.
Melmart1
11-27-2006, 06:40 PM
Hmmm... not sure this makes the team better...
Mr.Bottomtooth
11-27-2006, 06:48 PM
Kicked Off
Cowboys Release Vanderjagt; Sign Martin Gramatica
Nick Eatman - Email
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
November 27, 2006 4:59 PM
IRVING, Texas - The Cowboys are one of the hottest teams in the NFL. They've got the league's highest-rated quarterback and their defense is playing at the top of its game, too.
But the Cowboys have won four of their last five games with one of the league's coldest kickers. So cold, the Cowboys were forced to finally make a change.
The Cowboys signed Martin Gramatica on Monday and released Mike Vanderjagt, who made just 13 of 18 field goal attempts this season.
By cutting Vanderjagt now, the Cowboys will absorb about $1.6 million remaining of the $2.5 million signing bonus he received last March. The Cowboys originally signed Vanderjagt to a three-year deal worth $5.4 million.
Gramatica, once one of the NFL's best field-goal kickers who made the Pro Bowl in 2001, spent five years with the Buccaneers before being released in 2004 when his field-goal accuracy dipped dramatically. He actually was signed by the Colts, who had Vanderjagt for field goals and used Gramatica strictly for kickoff purposes.
But the Colts released Gramatica in 2005, and he spent the entire season out of football before signing with the Patriots this past April. He was released at the end of training camp and signed with the Colts again as a temporary injury replacement for Adam Vinatieri.
The Cowboys have struggled to find consistency at kicker, a position they thought would be shored up this year when they signed Vanderjagt, who entered the season as the most accurate field-goal kicker in NFL history.
While Vanderjagt still leads all kickers with an .864 career percentage, his perception of being a money kicker started to change. Vanderjagt has made 13 of 18 field goals this season for a .722 percentage, which ranks 29th out of 33 NFL kickers this year with at least 10 attempts.
Vanderjagt has already missed five field goals this year, two less than his combined misses in the last three seasons. Four of those five misses have clanged off the right upright, and his other miss just missed the right upright as well.
While the Cowboys had given Vanderjagt the benefit of the doubt, mainly because of his track record, they apparently felt they couldn't wait any longer for his inconsistencies to end, especially with five games left on the schedule and the team sitting one game ahead of the Giants in the NFC East.
Gramatica will become the seventh different kicker to play in a regular-season game since Bill Parcells took over as head coach in 2003.
Billy Cundiff spent the first two seasons with the club before a quad injury in training camp last year forced the Cowboys to release him with an injury settlement. The Cowboys used Jose Cortez and Shaun Suisham, then re-signed Cundiff for six games before they released him with one game left on the schedule. Suisham returned for the season finale, but the Cowboys signed Vanderjagt in the off-season.
But Vanderjagt was far from the kicker he was in Indianapolis for the previous eight seasons. A nagging groin injury limited his availability in training camp and preseason. After missing two game-winning kicks in a preseason tie with the the Vikings, Vanderjagt was not active for the regular-season opener at Jacksonville.
The Cowboys activated Suisham, who also missed a key 36-yard attempt in the third quarter, and then kept both Suisham and Vanderjagt active for the following game against the Redskins.
But since then, Vanderjagt has been the only active kicker for the Cowboys, handling both field goals and kickoffs. His kickoffs improved in the last few games, and he recorded a touchback on Thanksgiving against the Bucs.
But he was signed for his field-goal accuracy, and missing two against the Colts on Nov. 23 ultimately helped sealed his fate here in Dallas.
http://dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=2BA779A2-0550-76DF-143D05EDE8EE6EC9
dg7md
11-27-2006, 07:10 PM
Vanderjagt WAS one of the best kickers... honestly, that kick he missed last year ruined his career mentally. I really think that he hasn't and will not get over that. Thank god we have Gramatica now, or better, ANYONE other than Vanderjagt! This will really help us out I think.
Horry For 3!
11-27-2006, 07:12 PM
Cowboys should draft Alexis Serna or Mason Crosby.
RealEstateDude
11-27-2006, 07:19 PM
see ya VANDERSHANK!!!
McKenzie
11-27-2006, 07:30 PM
Not for freaking Martin Grammatica.
Neither of the Dramatica twins is worth a crap anymore.
TheAdmiral#50
11-27-2006, 07:32 PM
The guy has zero confidence. It's a no brainer, the guy can't kick off and misses chip shots. That Steeler game really messed him up in his head lol....see ya later Vanderchoke.
I wonder if Parcells just saw that this team is on a mission, and doesn't want a possible run to be derailed by a headcase kicker - that's been struggling all year, but being kept around because he's a name. Supposedly Dungy said that Gramatica was kicking as well as he had in years. And, if there's one upside to it, he can put it in the endzone on KOs.
TheAdmiral#50
11-27-2006, 07:42 PM
I wonder if Parcells just saw that this team is on a mission, and doesn't want a possible run to be derailed by a headcase kicker - that's been struggling all year, but being kept around because he's a name. Supposedly Dungy said that Gramatica was kicking as well as he had in years. And, if there's one upside to it, he can put it in the endzone on KOs.
I agree, I think this is a good move. Vandy was too cocky for his own good and was given enough rope to hang himself. Guess what? He did.
2centsworth
11-27-2006, 07:58 PM
I've seen Vanderjagt shank more than just that one attempt against the steelers. he choked even worse against the dolphins the year he made like 50 in a row, but in the playoffs he missed wide right from 40yrds or so to lose the game. saw him do the same crap against tampa the following year during a monday night game.
dang i have a memory of an elephant.
mardigan
11-27-2006, 08:58 PM
Rather have Venderwack than a kicker who blew his knee out celebrating a made field goal
2centsworth
11-27-2006, 09:06 PM
Rather have Venderwack than a kicker who blew his knee out celebrating a made field goal
wrong gramatica.
Obstructed_View
11-27-2006, 09:16 PM
IMO, if Vanderjagoff had the ability to put kickoffs into the end zone he'd still be on the team. Parcells is thinking field position in the playoffs, not kicks to decide games.
Amarelooms
11-27-2006, 09:20 PM
IMO, if Vanderjagoff had the ability to put kickoffs into the end zone he'd still be on the team. Parcells is thinking field position in the playoffs, not kicks to decide games.
Doubt the kicker they signed can do better on kick-offs
dirk4mvp
11-27-2006, 09:26 PM
I hate that piece of shit.
Horry For 3!
11-27-2006, 09:29 PM
Rather have Venderwack than a kicker who blew his knee out celebrating a made field goal
That was Bill Gramatica not Martin Gramatica.
AlamoSpursFan
11-27-2006, 10:00 PM
Dear Mike,
This is decaf, right?
Sincerely,
Peyton
ducks
11-27-2006, 10:04 PM
I would not mind the az cardinals to sign him
Obstructed_View
11-27-2006, 10:33 PM
Doubt the kicker they signed can do better on kick-offs
Since the two of them were on the same team and Grammatica was the kickoff guy I'd beg to differ on that point.
Johnny_Blaze_47
11-28-2006, 02:18 AM
Did you hear Vanderjagt tried to commit suicide but failed?
He tried to hang himself but couldn't kick the chair out from underneath him.
Amarelooms
11-28-2006, 06:46 AM
Since the two of them were on the same team and Grammatica was the kickoff guy I'd beg to differ on that point.
What??? Grammatica played for the Colts...THIS YEAR not last lol
dg7md
11-28-2006, 06:53 AM
Did you hear Vanderjagt tried to commit suicide but failed?
He tried to hang himself but couldn't kick the chair out from underneath him.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Added to my sig!
Finnnnnnnnallllly
Signed Martin Gramatica
We signed Gazoo?
http://woodrow.typepad.com/the_ponderings_of_woodrow/files/gazoo.jpghttp://images.nfl.com/photos/img6079816.jpg
Melmart1
11-28-2006, 09:33 AM
Gramatica averaged 1 touchback every 9 kickoffs... very unimpressive.
But hell, if I can watch a field goal attempt without flinching, then I am all for it.
Cowboys should draft Alexis Serna or Mason Crosby.
All I can think of when Serna comes up is that game at LSU a couple of years ago when he missed 3 PAT's, including one in OT, and the Beavers lost by one.
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/badger/img/sep04/serna909.jpg
Ballcox
11-28-2006, 10:08 AM
Thank God! The road is now clear for us to advance to the Super Bowl, I've been wanting to get rid of this guy since he missed the two FG's in the last pre-season game. About time, fuck him.
was it just me or was everyone else holding your breath even on extra points by VanderJerk?
Ballcox
11-28-2006, 12:32 PM
^I know I sure as hell was. Hell, even that 22 yard FG against Tampa BARELY made it through, almost clipped the one of the posts. Gald to be rid of that guy.
On a side note, I can totally see this guy making pornos in about 5-6 years, he's just got that look to him. :lol
^
On a side note, I can totally see this guy making pornos in about 5-6 years, he's just got that look to him. :lol
Former NFL Kicker Mike "Dirk" VanderJerk starring in "Nailing it Hard........and wide right"
or
Starring in a one man film
“I can’t stop pulling my groin”
dallaskd
11-28-2006, 01:23 PM
Draft Mason Crosby. Really...he could be the the greatest of all time some day....
Ballcox
11-28-2006, 01:49 PM
Former NFL Kicker Mike "Dirk" VanderJerk starring in "Nailing it Hard........and wide right"
or
Starring in a one man film
“I can’t stop pulling my groin”
^ :lol :lol :lol
Bloodline666
11-28-2006, 10:38 PM
Jerry Jones wasted his money on Vanderchoke.
Next order of business that's high on the priority list for America's Team: Trade Bledsoe after the season's over. He'll be someone else's problem.
Johnny_Blaze_47
11-29-2006, 11:37 AM
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/12/2128/400/744993/vanderjagt.jpg
Chris
11-29-2006, 11:38 AM
Now Manu and Grammatica can hang out since they're both from Argentina.
Don't forget Grammatica had an 80% avg before he got injured in 2005. I think this could be our guy for many years to come.
Obstructed_View
11-29-2006, 12:08 PM
What??? Grammatica played for the Colts...THIS YEAR not last lol
"Gramatica, once one of the NFL's best field-goal kickers who made the Pro Bowl in 2001, spent five years with the Buccaneers before being released in 2004 when his field-goal accuracy dipped dramatically. He actually was signed by the Colts, who had Vanderjagt for field goals and used Gramatica strictly for kickoff purposes."
Johnny_Blaze_47
11-30-2006, 02:37 AM
"Going into the Colts game, the guy was 12-of-15. That's still a high kicking percentage," XXXXXXXXXX said. "He didn't lose any games for us. If I had to put myself in the mix, I feel like I lost some games and I'm still here, so it's just unfortunate."
You make the call - Who said it?!?
A. http://www.profantasysports.com/userimgs/Drew%20Bledsoe%202.jpg
B. http://images.nfl.com/images/sb40/cast_roy-williams.jpg
C. http://espndeportes-att.espn.go.com/2003/photos2006/0318/a_owens_terrell_vt.jpg
Horry For 3!
11-30-2006, 02:56 AM
"Going into the Colts game, the guy was 12-of-15. That's still a high kicking percentage," XXXXXXXXXX said. "He didn't lose any games for us. If I had to put myself in the mix, I feel like I lost some games and I'm still here, so it's just unfortunate."
You make the call - Who said it?!?
A. http://www.profantasysports.com/userimgs/Drew%20Bledsoe%202.jpg
B. http://images.nfl.com/images/sb40/cast_roy-williams.jpg
C. http://espndeportes-att.espn.go.com/2003/photos2006/0318/a_owens_terrell_vt.jpg
It was T.O. They said on ESPN earlier that Owens didn't know why Vanderjagt was released because he didn't do anything wrong....
mikejones99
11-30-2006, 03:31 AM
Giants will crush Dallas no matter who kicks
I would not mind the az cardinals to sign him
If they do sign him tell the cards to move the goal post to the far right
Phenomanul
11-30-2006, 09:22 AM
Bad move IMO.....
So certain players are allowed to go through slumps except for kickers???
Chris
12-02-2006, 10:50 PM
Bad move IMO.....
So certain players are allowed to go through slumps except for kickers???
Extremely expensive kickers yes.
http://www.mikevanderjagt.net/home
BeerIsGood!
12-05-2006, 02:57 PM
From the Mike Vanderjagt Blog - "Feels Like Home
I think Jerry Jones and Coach Parcells feel like they've got somebody here that's going to probably win them two or three more games than they would have won last year. I feel very much wanted and needed here, and it's been a while since I felt that way. To those of you here in Dallas, I'm excited and honored to be playing for a team with such rich history and tradition. I look forward to continuing the tradition of excellence and dedication to this team. This team is special - a group of guys that can bring Dallas another Championship. Thanks for welcoming me into the community! "
Win another Championship - With Grammatica!!
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