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loveforthegame
12-01-2006, 12:51 AM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA120106.05D.BKNspurs.main.304d0bc.html

Spurs want to regroup after recent struggles

Web Posted: 11/30/2006 10:56 PM CST

Johnny Ludden
Express-News Staff Writer

With three losses in four games having dislodged them from their perch atop the Southwest Division, the Spurs return today to that most unfamiliar of locales, their practice facility.

"We're just kind of in a bad stretch right now," Tim Duncan said. "There's not too much you can do in the swing of things, so you just have to take a step back.

"That's why practice will be good for us. It will let us take a step back."

The Spurs hope to use their first workout in 18 days to regroup. With five back-to-backs crowding the first month of the schedule, the team has practiced only twice since opening night.

If nothing else, the Spurs should have plenty to discuss today. In each of the three losses they suffered in the previous week — Dallas at home and Golden State and Utah on the road — they were in position to win in the final quarter.

"We've had some slippage here of late," Bruce Bowen said. "Rest is good, but we kind of need to go over some things in areas we lack at this point of the season."

Among those areas of concern:

Getting Manu Ginobili healthy.

Ginobili hasn't played since bruising his lower back late in the third quarter against Dallas. The Spurs don't expect him to return for at least a couple more games.

Ginobili was examined Thursday by the team's medical staff, which prescribed more rest and treatment. So far, he has been unable to put much pressure on his right leg without having his back tighten.

Without Ginobili's ability to penetrate and create, the Spurs' offense has grown stagnant.

Finding someone who can hit a shot.

So far, Brent Barry has been the only productive reserve. Opposing teams, like Utah, have taken notice and worked harder to limit his attempts.

Michael Finley is shooting a career-low 32.2 percent; Robert Horry, a career-low 25.9 percent; and Beno Udrih, a career-low 36.7 percent. Finley's struggles have been the most damaging because the team has leaned on him during Ginobili's absence.

Francisco Elson's minutes have been sporadic, but he was productive when given a chance to play Wednesday. He blocked a pair of shots, grabbed five rebounds and hit a timely jump shot.

What Spurs coach Gregg Popovich wants to see now from Elson is consistency. He has played a little out of control, at times, and has had trouble catching passes.

Rebounding better as a team.

The Spurs are tied for sixth in the league in rebounding differential, but those numbers are somewhat skewed by the 63-41 advantage they had over Charlotte on Nov. 15 — a game they lost.

Not every team is going to be as ferocious on the boards as Utah was Wednesday, but the Spurs can still improve their gang rebounding. Duncan was the only starter to grab more than two boards against the Jazz.

One play summed up the Spurs' struggles. With Utah leading by five with 1:32 left, Matt Harpring missed an 18-foot shot. With no one bothering to block him out, Harpring dashed along the baseline, plucked the rebound out of the air and made a layup.

Establishing some type of home-court advantage.

Three of the Spurs' five losses have come at the AT&T Center, which doesn't bode well considering 10 of the team's 15 games in December are at home.

Last season, the Spurs didn't lose their third home game until Jan. 22. Two years ago, they lost only three home games all season.

With the exception of last week's loss to Dallas, the crowds have been lethargic. The earlier 7 p.m. start time may be somewhat to blame, but the team's play hasn't always been inspiring, either.

The Spurs offset their struggles at the AT&T Center by winning their first seven road games, a franchise-record.

"I wish I could figure out exactly what it takes (to win on the road)," Popovich said, "because we'd use it at home and see how that works."

Kori Ellis
12-01-2006, 03:03 AM
He has played a little out of control, at times, and has had trouble catching passes.

Pop stressed this on the Pop Show today too. That Elson is playing confused and too fast. Hopefully he gets rid of his Nazr-esque hands soon.

Solid D
12-01-2006, 03:27 AM
Pop said it's Manu's SI (sacroiliac) Joint.

Kori Ellis
12-01-2006, 04:00 AM
Hopefully it just takes Manu a few more days of rest and doesn't bother him after that.

Notorious H.O.P.
12-01-2006, 11:27 AM
Kori,

Are they going to get a significant amount of practice days now or in the very near future? It would be great if they could get Butler and White some extra work in although I'm sure they'll focus on getting our regular guys back on track.

It would also be great if they could evaluate Williams also so they can start planning what they would like to do with him (if it hasn't been decided already).

boutons_
12-01-2006, 11:42 AM
"Elson is playing confused and too fast"

Somewhat opposite from the problem we had with Rasho! :lol

Fabricio shows you don't have to be fast and super-athletic to make solid contributions.

TDMVPDPOY
12-01-2006, 12:20 PM
good luck at regrouping :( lets just tank the fukn season while we are at it

polandprzem
12-01-2006, 12:29 PM
Kori,

Are they going to get a significant amount of practice days now or in the very near future? It would be great if they could get Butler and White some extra work in although I'm sure they'll focus on getting our regular guys back on track.

It would also be great if they could evaluate Williams also so they can start planning what they would like to do with him (if it hasn't been decided already).

Check out the scheudle.
The probable next time of practice is between 16-20 day of December

bdictjames
12-01-2006, 01:19 PM
We need Tony to score and make plays

Bruno
12-01-2006, 01:55 PM
Rebounding better as a team.

Translation : Bowen should be a better rebounder.

Bruce average 2.5 rebounds in 34.1 min this year. It's really bad even for Bruce who has never been a good rebounder. Spurs can't be a good rebounding team when their starting SF is outrebounded by small PG like Jameer Nelson or Nate Robinson.
Bruce will never be a great rebounder but he must average at least 3.5-4 rebounds per game.

VaSpursFan
12-01-2006, 02:12 PM
Translation : Bowen should be a better rebounder.

Bruce average 2.5 rebounds in 34.1 min this year. It's really bad even for Bruce who has never been a good rebounder. Spurs can't be a good rebounding team when their starting SF is outrebounded by small PG like Jameer Nelson or Nate Robinson.
Bruce will never be a great rebounder but he must average at least 3.5-4 rebounds per game.

bruce usually guards the opposing team's best perimeter player and doesn't really crash the defensive boards because he really commits to "attempting" to box out his player or trying to break his ankle :lol

on the offensive end, he's around the 3 point line so it's hard for him to crash the offensive boards. also, the spurs philosophy is to let the bigs crash the defensive boards so that we can run the break. the bigs crash the offensive boards to let the other 3 get back on transition D. so it seems like the Spurs philosophy for rebounding may have to change if we want to see our numbers improve.

SequSpur
12-01-2006, 02:14 PM
Pop stressed this on the Pop Show today too. That Elson is playing confused and too fast. Hopefully he gets rid of his Nazr-esque hands soon.


The Spurs need to get past losing David Robinson and try something else. Maybe 2 7 footers doesn't work anymore.

Duh.

Bruno
12-01-2006, 02:25 PM
bruce usually guards the opposing team's best perimeter player and doesn't really crash the defensive boards because he really commits to "attempting" to box out his player or trying to break his ankle :lol on the offensive end, he's around the 3 point line so it's hard for him to crash the offensive boards.

No.
You can give Bruce all the excuses you want but he is doing a really bad rebounding job this year. Last year he averages 3.9 rebounds while he played slighty less minutes. Bruce will never be a great rebounder for the reasons you give and some other reasons like his lack of strengh but he really must improve his rebounding number this year.

VaSpursFan
12-01-2006, 02:56 PM
No.
You can give Bruce all the excuses you want but he is doing a really bad rebounding job this year. Last year he averages 3.9 rebounds while he played slighty less minutes. Bruce will never be a great rebounder for the reasons you give and some other reasons like his lack of strengh but he really must improve his rebounding number this year.

you make valid points. IMO, rebounding is really about 3 things: position, the timing of your jump and desire. you have to want to go after the ball to rebound. rodman and bill russell illustrate this perfectly.

bruce is really hamstrung by his focus on boxing out perimeter players. IMO, boxing out is needed the closer you are to the basket. that's where the position and timing come in. when you're on the perimeter, rebounding is all about wanting the ball. manu, is the perfect example of this. so if bruce emulates manu, he can get the 4 - 5 rebounds per night.

ShoogarBear
12-01-2006, 03:01 PM
The Spurs need to get past losing David Robinson and try something else. Maybe 2 7 footers doesn't work anymore.

Duh.Are you saying you want to see more Small Ball? Hmmmm?

boutons_
12-01-2006, 03:33 PM
Jason Kidd, can't jump, is a shorty, is a perimiter player, but out-rebounds every Spur by 3 RB/game (except Tim).

Tim and Francisco are both 15.3 RB/40

tlongII
12-01-2006, 05:47 PM
Spurs ain't doing squat if they don't have a healthy Ginobili.