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CosmicCowboy
11-04-2004, 10:02 AM
Producing a Hollywood flop


By Stephanie Mansfield
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


Sherry Lansing, the soon-to-be-retired Paramount studio honcho and friend of Sen. John Kerry, is said to be "depressed."
Actress Sharon Stone, who stumped for Mr. Kerry in Wisconsin, reportedly was "traveling" yesterday. It wasn't clear whether the "Basic Instinct" star had fled the country, as she had hinted that she might do if the Democratic nominee lost.
There were tears and tribulations. Long sighs and short tempers. Shock and bawl.
For a rich and powerful demographic used to getting its way, Hollywood was downbeat yesterday as President Bush — more heinous than a mid-February release date to so many celebrities and other bold-faced names — made his gracious victory speech.
Not only entertainers were said to be dispirited. The literary crowd in New York was crying into its Evian.
"Sure, I feel terrible," said New Yorker editor David Remnick, whose published endorsement of Mr. Kerry was a first for the magazine. "There are a lot of long faces today."
And "Fahrenheit 9/11" propagandist Michael Moore's Web site actually went silent.
That's the same Mr. Moore who only a couple of weeks ago had paused in his anti-Bush road trip to opine: "I have a feeling that slackers are going to rise up in this election. The slacker motto is: Sleep till noon, drink beer, vote Kerry."
George Soros, the Hungarian-born billionaire who went on his own 12-city speaking tour and spent an estimated $17 million on ads and get-out-the-vote drives to defeat the president, posted a message on his Web site describing himself as "distressed."
"I'll be back," he wrote.
Buoyed by early exit polls that put their candidate ahead, many in Beverly Hills dined together and waited out the night. Slowly, their leading man faded from the political screen.
"There's a lot of disappointment out here. A lot of apprehension," said Robert Dowling, editor in chief of the Hollywood Reporter. "People are comatose."
It was the right coast versus the left coast, and the morning-after mood was described by Mr. Dowling as "somber." It left many Kerry supporters reaching for their Prozac vials.
"Mine is already empty," joked a high-level publicist who counts A-list celebrities as his clients. "Everyone's so down. All the studio execs are bummed. I have to tell you, when gay marriage becomes a bigger issue than the Iraq war, we're missing something."
Long decried as out of touch with "the real America," Hollywood woke up to its worst nightmare on Main Street.
"This is definitely Kerry country," said Gabriel Snyder, senior writer for Variety, the industry bible.
One can only imagine the despair of the Hollywood stars over the specter of glittery state dinners and policy lunches that could have been: Barbra and Moby,, Uma Thurman and Viggo Mortensen, Meryl Streep and Robert De Niro, Bette Midler and George Clooney. Directed, perhaps, by Rob Reiner and Steven Spielberg.
Who knew "moral values" voters could triumph over production values?
Asked whether outspoken stars might regret their more vitriolic sentiments about the president, Mr. Snyder said he doesn't think there is a risk of backlash.
"My prediction is the political tenor will come down for a little while," the Variety scribe said. "I don't think anyone will say anything wild. Next week, of course, might be different."
Among the most shrill in past months: Jennifer Aniston, the "Friends" actress who called Mr. Bush "a [expletive] idiot." Actor Leonardo DiCaprio, who stumped for Mr. Kerry in Oregon and Florida and appeared in an ad for the Democrat on the Internet. Singer John Mellencamp, who described Mr. Bush as "a cheap thug."
Cher also threw her wig in the ring, calling Mr. Bush "stupid and lazy" during a sparsely attended rally at a Miami Beach disco in Florida.
Al Franken is also a loser today; Dennis Miller a winner.
Sean Penn, Whoopi Goldberg and Meg Ryan: losers. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ron Silver and Angie Harmon: winners.
Bruce Springsteen and Jon Bon Jovi lost their full-throated bids to play at an inaugural ball. Larry Gatlin and Brooks & Dunn, call your agents.
Rap impresario Sean "P. Diddy" Combs made his preferences known, without using the names "Bush" or "Kerry," in urging the hip-hop nation to "Vote or Die." Fellow rapper Eminem put in a belated appearance with the animated video for his venomous anti-Bush single "Mosh," in which his "army" appears to veer from violence in the streets to voting at the polls.
What proved to be a tonic: Building 429 and other Christian rockers who urged prayerful consideration of the stakes on their "Redeem the Vote" tour.
"It was a very gradual thing," the Hollywood Reporter's Mr. Dowling recalled. "First it was Puff Diddy, then Bruce Springsteen came along, then Ben Affleck came out and the bandwagon rolled. It was slow to engage, and I'm not sure if Kerry wasn't just a surrogate for anti-Bush feelings."
"Celebrity testimonials may help [sell] erectile-dysfunction products," Marty Kaplan, communications professor at the University of South Carolina, told Agence France-Presse, "but in politics, they're mainly eye candy for the media."
Mr. Dowling agreed.
"It didn't work," he said of the Democrats' star-studded support.
Asked whether Mr. Affleck, who wasn't available for comment, would suffer any repercussions, Mr. Dowling laughed and alluded to the actor's latest box-office flop "Surviving Christmas."
"Ben Affleck," the Hollywood journalist said, "has more career problems at the moment than his political beliefs." :lol


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bigzak25
11-04-2004, 10:22 AM
i'm tired of the rich hollywood left acting like they really give a shit.

screw'em. :lol :smokin

travis2
11-04-2004, 10:24 AM
:baby

Hook Dem
11-04-2004, 10:33 AM
Boycott their movies and let the bastards sink. It was good enough for Bush. Do these "people" think we are so stupid that we are not capable of remembering? :flipoff

whottt
11-04-2004, 10:42 AM
I hope a lot of these guys will follow Stone's lead and leave the country. Maybe she can start a second career by showing her gash to Europe...

Fucking quitter...and they wonder why we didn't embrace their view during a war.

Oh and Mellencamp needs a foot up his ass. Atta boy John, keep pissing on the people who made you a millionaire....way to ensure you will remain Springsteen light. Mellencamp is the posterboy for stuck in the 60's. He was apolitical during Vietnam and now he is trying to live the movment he missed the first time.

Fucker just needs to stop claiming he sings for middle america and take his millions to Hollywood...er Paris.

Old Hollywood is Republican anyway...better actors, better movies, more memorable moments.

whottt
11-04-2004, 10:59 AM
BTW, Hollywood liberals are just about the largest collection of intellecutal dullards on the planet. They are stagnant, and original thought is dead in their industry. They are also the posterboy for what terrorists most hate about our country...they are just too fucking stupid to realize it.

I will not miss them.

There's nothing more pathetic than a bunch of plastic people, with fake hair, fake boobs, fake butts, fake personalities, injecting toxins into their face to try and hold on, consumed with their personal appearance, and trying to pass themselves off as liberals. They want to be aristocracy, America has no true aristocracy, they need to get the fuck out of this country.

For too long they have mooched off the credibility of Old School Hollywood...back when Hollywood was comprised of the common man, the common man who built that industry...back when he would quit his job to go and fight for this country in a war...now they are just a bunch of elitist snobs that are pathetically out of touch with their own country.

Let them leave...it will be their loss not ours. But they won't leave, because what it all boils down too is they are largely shallow people who are consumed with wealth, fame and adulation...and there is no better place to get in than Hollywood....and there is no one more undeserving of it than those who dominate Hollywood now.


If they leave they will be replaced, in an instant.

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 11:04 AM
hahah whott's pretty fucking funny

whottt
11-04-2004, 11:12 AM
Keep laughing Ice, Bedtime for Bonzo is high art compared to anything Affleck has done.

Hook Dem
11-04-2004, 11:13 AM
hahah whott's pretty fucking funny
Before you can deal with your problem Ice, you have to admit you have one! Go look in the mirror!

Jimcs50
11-04-2004, 11:38 AM
Good Charlotte

Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous

Always see it on TV or read it in the magazines
Celebrities want sympathy
All they do is piss and moan inside the Rolling Stone
Talking about how hard life can be
I'd like to see them spend a week livin' life out on the street
I don't think they would survive
If they could spend a day or two walking in someone else's shoes
I think they'd stumble and they'd fall
They would fall
Lifestyles of the rich and the famous
They're always complaining, always complaining
If money is such a problem
Well they got mansions
Think we should rob them
Did you know when you were famous
You could kill your wife and there was no such thing as
25 to life as long as you got the cash to pay for Cochran
And did you know if you were caught and you wer smoking crack
McDonald's wouldn't even want to take you back
You could always just run for mayor of D.C.
I'd like to see them spend a week livin' life out on the street
I don't think they would survive
If they could spend a day or two walking in someone else's shoes
I think they'd stumble and they'd fall
They would fall, fall
Lifestyles of the rich and the famous
They're always complaining, always complaining
If money is such a problem
Well they got masions
Think we should rob them

:rolleyes

Shelly
11-04-2004, 11:45 AM
From the NY Daily News..


So did they vote?

Or are they gonna die?

The early returns from Sean Combs' mega-hyped Citizen Change campaign suggested that reality television star Paris Hilton and rapper 50 Cent - who appeared in eye-catching posters modeling Combs' "VOTE OR DIE!" T-shirts to encourage voting - didn't make it to the polls yesterday. Another star, rapper Ludacris, did mail in an absentee ballot, according to his publicist.

But Lowdown's spot check of voting records in California, New York and Georgia - where Hilton, Curtis Jackson 3rd (aka 50 Cent) and Christopher Bridges (aka Ludacris), respectively, maintain residences - indicated that the three weren't even registered, let alone exercising their constitutional right.

Citizen Change official Alexis McGill yesterday said that short of bodily hauling celebrities to the polls, the group did everything it could: "Citizen Change contacted every celebrity's representative and was told by each and every one that the celebrities participating in our campaign were registered to vote."

A Citizen Change insider elaborated: "All the celebrities' managers confirmed that they were going to register if they hadn't already. We have to take the managers at their word. We have no business checking up on them - especially because none of the celebs got paid."

Hilton's PR rep, Gina Hoffman, had no comment yesterday, and 50 Cent's flack did not return detailed messages - though as a convicted felon and possibly not eligible, he might be off the hook.

Ludacris' publicist, Bianca Bianconi, said: "I just got off the phone with Ludacris, and he said he absolutely mailed his absentee ballot last week in Fulton County, Ga."

As for P. Diddy, he did a voting photo op yesterday morning at Robert F. Wagner Junior High School on the upper East Side.

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 11:47 AM
ben affleck sucks moron, but reagan was a shitty actor. however if you think classical hollywood shared your warped values you're fooling yourself.

2pac
11-04-2004, 11:47 AM
Hollywood often sinks itself.

Alec Baldwin is a good example. Total idiot.

When Alec Baldwin stars in a movie - the movie is destined for failure.

The last movie which billed Baldwin as the star that made money - THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER (1990.)

The only other movie starring Baldwin that made money - BEETLEJUICE.

That's it. Two movies over his 20+ year acting career that he was the star in made money.

To be fair - he did have a small role in Pearl Harbor, that made a ton of money, but he certainly wasnt the star.

whottt
11-04-2004, 11:49 AM
Ice, you're not really a liberal you know...you're just a cynic.

In fact in the Golden Age of Hollywood the biggest stars were all Republicans.

The liberals came in 1950's and began to dominate in the late 60's until this very day.

The worm has turned and people are sick of their bitching. That song by Jim is dead on.

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 11:52 AM
yeah cause thats all movies are about, making money.

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 11:54 AM
considering that during the "golden age" of hollywood the republicans were democrats and the democrats were republicans then yeah.

whottt
11-04-2004, 11:56 AM
http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0897/people2.jpg

With all due respect young man, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Back in my day we bombed the shit out of motherfuckers as well as made movies. Now STFU and get out of my rabbit's seat.

Hook Dem
11-04-2004, 11:57 AM
considering that during the "golden age" of hollywood the republicans were democrats and the democrats were republicans then yeah.
Damn Ice!!!! You sound just like Kerry! :lol

whottt
11-04-2004, 12:02 PM
He's just been tricked by Democratic ass covering. They like to try and cover all the bases you know. If you need proof of this just look at his support for the most racist policial party in history...and his hatred of the religious right...the same people that freed the slaves.

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 12:05 PM
you guys aren't well versed on history.

Hook Dem
11-04-2004, 12:09 PM
The difference between you and I Ice is that I don't hate you for what you believe but you can not say the same. Prove me wrong please.

whottt
11-04-2004, 12:12 PM
Actually I am very well versed on history...I earned my college degree studying it from a scientiffic perspective.

You mistake patriotism and bipartisan support of a wartime President for party affiliation.

In Old School Hollywood the biggest stars were Republicans and those that are still alive remain Republicans to this day.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans pretty much always support the War and never try to politicize it for Political gain. This is why this recent campaign was such a travesty....on the part of the Democrats...then again they have always run on a platform of keeping us out of war...even though they have entered us into more of them than any other party.

2pac
11-04-2004, 12:18 PM
Everything is about money.

If you consistantly cost people money when they are counting on you to make money - you are a failure. Hence, Alec Baldwin is a failure.

And I would put my knowledge of history up against your knowledge any day.

NeoConIV
11-04-2004, 12:23 PM
you guys aren't well versed on history.
You're not well versed in reality...

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 12:25 PM
yes when can we nominate the republicans for sainthood. only they view politics unpolitically.

whottt
11-04-2004, 12:31 PM
Who says they are saints? But they don't tend to politicize wars...at least by becoming anti-war.

Works the same way with Crats...if the Republicans wanted to pass a big bill increasing wellfare benefits, or making it semi-illegal to be white and acutally love your country, I am sure the Crats would have their back on that one.

Basically, it's just that at this current point in time...The Democrats are the bigger assholes.

NeoConIV
11-04-2004, 12:31 PM
yes when can we nominate the republicans for sainthood. only they view politics unpolitically.
We don't know history?? Study the forefathers. They crushed that statement you just made.

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 12:34 PM
jesus christ, sarcasm you dumb bitch

whottt
11-04-2004, 12:36 PM
Sorry...didn't notice you switched out cynicism for sarcasm. I'll try to be more sensitive to you changing from 1 of your 2 moods to the other.

NeoConIV
11-04-2004, 12:39 PM
Ok, I sorry. Forgive me?

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 12:39 PM
a) i was talking to neocon. b) every war is political and with a politician EVERYTHING is political. fucking taking a shit is political.

Hook Dem
11-04-2004, 12:41 PM
a) i was talking to neocon. b) every war is political and with a politician EVERYTHING is political. fucking taking a shit is political.
Well, fucking OKAY!!!!!!!!!

NeoConIV
11-04-2004, 12:43 PM
Do you fucking forgive me or what, you dumb bitch?

:)

IcemanCometh
11-04-2004, 01:09 PM
yeah i fucking fuck damn forgive you fucking ok fuck

Spurminator
11-04-2004, 01:12 PM
Careful... you'll awake the Knights of Standards and Practices...

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