mavs get lucky catch denver on a back to back game

[ducks]

denver played last night
gets in dallas at 4 am this morning to face a rested mavs team

WHY STERN

[dirk4mvp]

Howard also held Melo to 8-26. :smokin

Denver has lost 17 of its last 18 visits to Dallas


And Cleveland win tonight too, ducks? :lol

[ducks]

yeah because melo and jr smith were tired

what happens when you have no sleep

[ducks]

denver rested it would have been a different game

[Amarelooms]

denver rested it would have been a different game

stfu....wgas

[JHoLove]

Well, they didn't. And they lost.

[dirk4mvp]

So your dumbass is blaming the Nugget's loss on a b2b? Teams have to learn how to play b2b games.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

tonight meant nothing.

The Nuggets were flat from the start and then they started finding out what the Spurs have been saying all along. You cant beat Dallas in Dallas if the refs wanna get involved :lol

Melo got 2 freakin freethrows and there were at last 8 times he got hacked under the basket and no call. Dirk on the other hand gets 10 ft's for falling over.

One play there was 3 seconds left on the shotclock after the ball was tipped out. What did they do? they reset the shotslock :drunk :lol

[Amarelooms]

tonight meant nothing.

The Nuggets were flat from the start and then they started finding out what the Spurs have been saying all along. You cant beat Dallas in Dallas if the refs wanna get involved :lol

Melo got 2 freakin freethrows and there were at last 8 times he got hacked under the basket and no call. Dirk on the other hand gets 10 ft's for falling over.

One play there was 3 seconds left on the shotclock after the ball was tipped out. What did they do? they reset the shotslock :drunk :lol

Sorry but Dirk >>>>>>> Melo

[ducks]

melo is more clutch then dirk

[dirk4mvp]

melo is more clutch then dirk


congrats. You almost made a sentence that was readable.

[Amarelooms]

melo is more clutch then dirk

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...good one homer. What has Melo ever done? Exactly now stfu.

[Sense]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...good one homer. What has Melo ever done? Exactly now stfu.

I don't agree with Ducks overall... but that is true...

Melo has one of the best percentages in game winning shots...

Dirk hasn't had that many..... if he has had any at all..

So yeah Melo is more clutch than Dirk.... I think so.

[himat]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...good one homer. What has Melo ever done? Exactly now stfu.

Sorry to bump in this but Melo is in Denver not San Antonio.

[Amarelooms]

I don't agree with Ducks overall... but that is true...

Melo has one of the best percentages in game winning shots...

Dirk hasn't had that many..... if he has had any at all..

So yeah Melo is more clutch than Dirk.... I think so.

You think making a couple game winning shots in meaningless regular season games is a great accomplishment? I rather have Dirk than Melo...to each their own...we'll see how the Nuggets do this season :fro

[Sense]

You think making a couple game winning shots in meaningless regular season games is a great accomplishment? I rather have Dirk than Melo...to each their own...we'll see how the Nuggets do this season :fro

Do you realize the fuckin argument is the clutchness?

Obviously I'd pick Dirk over Melo, but the fact stands... Melo is more clutch.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

what has Dirk ever done in his career, neither have a c'ship and thats all that matters?

Sleeping with Cuban and Stern is nothing for him to brag about

[dirk4mvp]

You think making a couple game winning shots in meaningless regular season games is a great accomplishment? I rather have Dirk than Melo...to each their own...we'll see how the Nuggets do this season :fro


You are a retarded piece of shit. Why are you worried about the Mavericks for? Aren't you a suns fan?

[Amarelooms]

You are a retarded piece of shit. Why are you worried about the Mavericks for? Aren't you a suns fan?

Go F yourself douche bag...you must be retarded. Does it say that I am a Suns fan?

[dirk4mvp]

Go F yourself douche bag...you must be retarded. Does it say that I am a Suns fan?


Why yes it does.

[fitzgerald]

Hey duck,

Since you have nothing else to do or any hobbies, go ahead and stick that knife in your neck. Does anyone really care about your "thoughts"? Mavs win and Nuggets lose. No excuses. Unless you are a little child and don't understand that.

[T Park]

go ahead and stick that knife in your neck

tough talk from the 13 year old typical maverick fan division.

[atxrocker]

Hey duck,

Since you have nothing else to do or any hobbies, go ahead and stick that knife in your neck. Does anyone really care about your "thoughts"? Mavs win and Nuggets lose. No excuses. Unless you are a little child and don't understand that.


this is a childish statement. the biggest buncha bullshit i read in a whole minute, but the latest update on the 3rd or 4th best player in the league, frankly has me in a poor position to hand anything over to the mav's. what a poor, lonely group the mav's must be to seem so desperate.. let's go kings!

[boutons_]

Has the NBA even tried to get in 82 games without every team having 15 - 20 B2Bs?

4 games in 5 days or 5 games in 7 days is just stupid.

Has this issue ever been raised by the NBA players' union?

It's pretty fucking stupid that fatigue is more important than the basketball in determining games results, cheating the players and the fans.

If B2Bs could be eliminated by starting the season a week or 10 days earlier and changing the scheduling program, who'd be against it?

How about more games on Thu night rather than just 2 to keep TNT happy?

I'm surprised the B2B problem doesn't have more complaints from the teams.

[RonMexico]

You are a retarded piece of shit. Why are you worried about the Mavericks for? Aren't you a suns fan?

Now you've resorted to attacking your own kind... you really are the dumbest person in the world... You rip on Melo for making clutch shots in the regular season, but your baby Dirk hasn't hit any in the regular season or post-season (aside from the Ginobili foul play in Game 7). Melo does have one of the best percentages in last second shots and I think he had at least 8 or 9 game winners last year alone.

Amarelooms has been a big Mavs supporter for over a year now and I think he only has that name because he fears Amare's return to his old self.

[ducks]

Has the NBA even tried to get in 82 games without evern team have 15 - 20 B2Bs?
4 games in 5 days or 5 games in 7 days is just stupid.

Has this issue ever been riaised by the NBA players' union?

It's pretty fucking stupid that fatique is more important than the basketball in determining games results, cheating the players and the fans.

If B2Bs could be eliminated by starting the season a week or 10 days earlier and changing the scheduling promam, who'd be against it?

How about more games on Thu night rather than just 2 to keep TNT happy?

I'm surprised the B2B problem doesn't have more complaints.

this is what stern needs to spend his time on not dress codes
boutons post in this thread is one of the best
I am a spur fan not a mavs or even nuggets fan
however wanting to watch a good basketball game with one team getting in at 4 am getting to bed at 6 am is silly
have you ever did that and then played pro sports?

[dirk4mvp]

Now you've resorted to attacking your own kind... you really are the dumbest person in the world... You rip on Melo for making clutch shots in the regular season, but your baby Dirk hasn't hit any in the regular season or post-season (aside from the Ginobili foul play in Game 7). Melo does have one of the best percentages in last second shots and I think he had at least 8 or 9 game winners last year alone.

Amarelooms has been a big Mavs supporter for over a year now and I think he only has that name because he fears Amare's return to his old self.


I'd like to nominate you for dumbest person in the world. Mainly because you pulled that "I ripped on Melo for clutch shots" out of your ass when I didn't say anything about his clutch shots. :drunk

And whay to try to exlude the game 7 shot+foul. That didn't mean anything I don't suppose.

[NBA Junkie]

Right. Like the Mavs couldn't beat the Nuggets in a playoff series when both teams get the same amount of days off. :rolleyes

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

poor Nuggets.

lol does it really matter? theyve lost like 17 in a row here :lol

[lurker]

yeah because melo and jr smith were tired

what happens when you have no sleep
Excuses, excuses. ;)

[RonMexico]

I'd like to nominate you for dumbest person in the world. Mainly because you pulled that "I ripped on Melo for clutch shots" out of your ass when I didn't say anything about his clutch shots. :drunk

And whay to try to exlude the game 7 shot+foul. That didn't mean anything I don't suppose.

But you did say Dirk was clutch and that Amarelooms was a Suns fan? That's what I thought... I'll exclude that one play because it was more Ginobili's error than Dirk's greatness - you shouldn't be a 7-footer in the NBA if you can't make a 3 inch layup while getting hit. That said, Dirk choked in the 4th quarter of every loss in the Finals to completely override that play.

Secondly, you make a point of discrediting every Suns game/play/shot/1 or 2 defensive stops they have per game, so why shoud I even think of giving the Big Vagina (Dirk, if you didn't know by now) any credit? I give the Dirk of 4 years ago credit for being a good player, but this new flopping, crying, slaps-down-at-the-ball-and-thinks-its-defense Dirk is contributing to the ruination of the league. I can't believe that he complained to the refs when he slapped the shit out of Rasheed Wallace at the end of that game last week and then proceeded to bitch out on a 3 pt attempt from the corner... real clutch (kind of like every time he blamed his teammates for a loss in the playoffs prior to 2006).

Now, if the Suns get to 12 in a row like your precious Mavs (Suns play 4 b2b games during that stretch), I doubt you'll even give them credit and proceed to say that somehow the Mavs streak was more impressive because they won in SA and forget that the Mavs had over half those games at home. And all of that will somehow prove that the Mavs are "arguably" the best team in the West despite being 3rd in their division, 5th in the West, and have had the most games at home in the Western Conference (along with division leaders Utah and LA) at 11.

[dirk4mvp]

But you did say Dirk was clutch and that Amarelooms was a Suns fan?

Uhhh, yeah, but I didn't "rip" on Melo for hitting game winning shots like you said now did I?

[RonMexico]

Sorry, it was late - I confused you with another Mavs fan clone who did.

[ponky]

denver played last night
gets in dallas at 4 am this morning to face a rested mavs team

WHY STERN

kind of how the spurs got lucky playing golden state without jason richardson...and they might get lucky again if kobe doesn't play...get the fuck outta here with that soft shit. if the suns can play the equivalent of nearly five quarters with all the starters staying until the end, then go and pound the shit outta the celtics the next night, there's no excuse for the younger nuggets team...just cuz spurs suck on BTBs doesn't mean all teams suck on BTBs

[ponky]

Do you realize the fuckin argument is the clutchness?

Obviously I'd pick Dirk over Melo, but the fact stands... Melo is more clutch.

I understand the difference and of course, I agree with this...Melo may be more clutch but I'd rather have Dirk...then you don't need to be so clutch if you can distance yourself from the opposing team so that being clutch isn't even a factor.

[mavsfan1000]

Melo choked in last years playoffs when it counted so this Melo is clutch is bullshit. Regular season clutch and playoffs clutch are completely different.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Melo choked in last years playoffs when it counted so this Melo is clutch is bullshit. Regular season clutch and playoffs clutch are completely different.


r u kidding me? :lol

The NUGGETS sucked in the playoffs last season. Melo sucked coz his teammates couldnt hit the side of a barn and he was triple teamed, what do u expect him to do? He passed it, they missed. He shot it with 3 people on him, he missed.

Dirk wouldnt hit much if he had 3 people all over him for the playoffs. He doesnt have to worry about that coz he has Terry and Howard hitting J's.

These playoffs will be different. JR will help spread the floor and Yakhoube is heating up as well.

And thank goodness there are no b2b games in the playoffs :lol

[ponky]

tonight meant nothing.

The Nuggets were flat from the start and then they started finding out what the Spurs have been saying all along. You cant beat Dallas in Dallas if the refs wanna get involved :lol

Melo got 2 freakin freethrows and there were at last 8 times he got hacked under the basket and no call. Dirk on the other hand gets 10 ft's for falling over.

One play there was 3 seconds left on the shotclock after the ball was tipped out. What did they do? they reset the shotslock :drunk :lol


Yeah the refs really like the Mavs last night...I mean, they went to the line more times than did the Nuggets...oh wait, no they didn't!!! So which is it, the refs or your flat start? Pick one lame excuse and stick with it.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Yeah the refs really like the Mavs last night...I mean, they went to the line more times than did the Nuggets...oh wait, no they didn't!!! So which is it, the refs or your flat start? Pick one lame excuse and stick with it.


Nuggets got screwed by both, whats ur point?

Mavs fans run off 100 excuses when they lose, why should anyone else be different?

[ponky]

Nuggets got screwed by both, whats ur point?

Mavs fans run off 100 excuses when they lose, why should anyone else be different?

I never make excuses, especially when it comes to bitching about refs, that's so fucking lame. I may criticize the Mavs for not getting back on D, for standing around on offense and taking too many jumpers, but blaming it on btbs and refs is lame. The refs weren't bad at all last night, your guys went to the line more than we did, and we got called for softy shit like traveling (Harris) and 3 secs (Dirk). Look at our BTB record, it's great so what's your real excuse? Take a look at Melo's 8-26 shooting for starters. The guys probably slept a full 7-8 hours until noon and then ate something before doing some light practicing. Your excuses are weak, especially when a guy like Nash can bring it two nights in a row and kick some ass...how old is he compared to 'Melo?

People who generalize about a team's fanbase are idiots.

[dirk4mvp]

Sorry, it was late - I confused you with another Mavs fan clone who did.


Haha, and you call me dumb. Retard.

[nkdlunch]

:lol this thread

Ducks you the man!

[stretch]

denver played last night
gets in dallas at 4 am this morning to face a rested mavs team

WHY STERN
fuck off. everyone gets those games. im sure i could find that the spurs have quite a few of those in their schedule as well.

[RonMexico]

fuck off. everyone gets those games. im sure i could find that the spurs have quite a few of those in their schedule as well.

Thanks for proving his point: he doesn't want that to happen to any teams.

[RonMexico]

Haha, and you call me dumb. Retard.

Yeah, I know - you call the Mavs the best team the NBA has ever seen and I confuse you with another troll and then actually admit when I'm wrong and I'm the retard.

[shayne mccrackhead]

But you did say Dirk was clutch and that Amarelooms was a Suns fan?

have you ever been on mavtalk. Amarelooms is a mix between a suns fan, and a fairweather fan.

[dirk4mvp]

Yeah, I know - you call the Mavs the best team the NBA has ever seen and I confuse you with another troll and then actually admit when I'm wrong and I'm the retard.


Never once said the Mavs were the best team ever. Haven't even came close to saying that. You're just making shit up and proving how stupid you are.

[ducks]

:lol this thread

Ducks you the man!

thanks :hat

[RonMexico]

Never once said the Mavs were the best team ever. Haven't even came close to saying that. You're just making shit up and proving how stupid you are.


Shut the fuck up you argument-changing piece of shit... "Mavs are arguably the best team in the West" is one of your catchphrases... you act like Anthony Johnson, Devean George, and Austin Croshere are franchise-changing players every time you post on here.

Dirk will never lead (I use the term "lead" very loosely because his idea of leading is by yelling at all of his teammates) a team to a championship because he doesn't have any killer instinct beyond killing the quality of the league by flopping/yelling/anti-semitism (yeah, I said it - he's a Nazi)/Hasselhoff loving at any sign of contact. It saddens me everytime Nash says they're still friends.

You act like every team has to "go through" the Mavs to get to the championship... next time someone has to go through the 6th-ranked team in the West, let me know. Your team has been blown out more times than I can count (2 - since I'm drunk) by teams such as the Clippers and Utah. They aren't built for the long haul and no one things Dampier will continue this attempt at actual basketball skill.

You have no basis for half of your arguments on here (Mavs #1, Dirk is an MVP, Jason Terry - the guy who couldn't beat Edjuardo Najera and Oklahoma at HOME in the NCAA Tournament - is a clutch player) and you're pretty much the dumbest Mavs homer I've ever read in my entire life, much less seen at a College Station bar. Fungus such as you is spreading across the entire northern part of Texas, and also acting like Dallas isn't the biggest shithole in America. Go fuck yourself and your sister/mom/grandma again...

[RonMexico]

have you ever been on mavtalk. Amarelooms is a mix between a suns fan, and a fairweather fan.

I'm sorry that I don't frequent your shitty attempt at a message board called "Mavtalk" (I'm not being homer - the Suns message boards suck too, which is why I post on here), so I only base my opinions off Amarelooms's posts on here and his allegiance to the Mavs as indicated under his avitar.

[boutons_]

Mavs catch more luck on getting the Lakers @DAL tonight on the back of B2B and with Lamar injured.

[dirk4mvp]

Shut the fuck up you argument-changing piece of shit... "Mavs are arguably the best team in the West" is one of your catchphrases...

Seems like you're the one changing the argument. Saying the Mavs are the best team in the west is saying they're the best team ever? How bad does your vagina ache?

[RonMexico]

Seems like you're the one changing the argument. Saying the Mavs are the best team in the west is saying they're the best team ever? How bad does your vagina ache?

You're a Mavs fan - you thought the league was formed in 2000 and have been watching basketball only 6 years, so it's logical you would think this 6th-ranked team in the West would be the best team ever. You make some sweeping arguments about the "state of the game," and how "defense is key to winning championships." It's really funny you make those statements because your team hasn't ever won a championship and I don't see that happening any time soon with this current squad. You say that in the 80s, "teams played more physically and no star was given preferential treatment" but you have a "star" (I use that term loosely) on your team who gets some of the most preferential treatment in the league... I guess it's just that blasted "bear-hug" defense though... You and the rest of your city suddenly calling out Dwayne Wade was one of the most hypocritical events I've ever seen in June.

I'm not changing your argument - I'm just reading between the lines and hoping finally to draw it out of you. It's very ironic that during this period of us bashing each other that you've completely changed your tune and there's no more of this, "Mavs own Spurs," "Mavs are the best in the West," "Anthony Johnson is a key player" bullshit coming out of your mouth. Unfortunately, you'll probably win tonight because Odom is out and the Lakers are coming off a B2B, and that Mavs loving will start all over again.

[dirk4mvp]

I love how you give me an essay like this all the time when it's really just a bunch of :blah that doesn't mean a thing.


I've never said the Mavs were the best team ever, nor came close. If you could find where I said this, I'd love to see it.

[RonMexico]

You're a like girl who takes one part of an argument and turns it into my main point... it's just fluff I write to piss you off - calm down

[RonMexico]

Sometimes I post when I'm drunk and make grand generalizations... but one thing we can agree upon: when the Mavs were on their little 12-game streak you were always posting on here and applauding how great they are and how much better they are with these "new pieces" such as Johnson and Croshere and George and how they were "arguably" the best in the West. You're not arguing too much now that they've been stomped by Detroit and Utah and are 6th in the West.

[mavs>spurs2]

Lmao at this dumbass calling the mavs the "6th best team in the west." They may be 6th in standings, but they are at least top 2 when it comes down to who the better teams are. There should be an age limit on this forum.

[dirk4mvp]

Sometimes I post when I'm drunk and make grand generalizations... but one thing we can agree upon: when the Mavs were on their little 12-game streak you were always posting on here and applauding how great they are and how much better they are with these "new pieces" such as Johnson and Croshere and George and how they were "arguably" the best in the West. You're not arguing too much now that they've been stomped by Detroit and Utah and are 6th in the West.


One other thing we can agree upon is you hate the Mavs for no apparent reason.

Yeah yeah yeah, they're 6th in west. They'll be higher by the end of the season. The suns are #4. Are they better than the mavs?

Yeah, "new pieces". This year's mavs team >> last year's mavs team

[RonMexico]

One other thing we can agree upon is you hate the Mavs for no apparent reason.

No, there's plenty of reasons - including all of the fans that post on here and the rest that cheer at the Fox & Hound in College Station and yet know nothing about the rest of the NBA beyond the "metroplex." Oh, and I hate Plano kids.

And yes, I do hate the Mavs players - Dirk for complaining and flopping and "leading" by screaming at his players but never admitting that he choked in the Finals; Terry for a lot of things (punching in the nuts, eating "some form of chicken" before the game, and for going to U of A); Devin Harris for never committing a blocking foul and whining; Stackhouse for being Stack (including flagrant fouls, looking like a caveman, being a general asshole); Josh Howard for thinking he and Dwayne Wade will "cancel each other out" in the Finals, and his general monkey nature; Devean George for his former presence on the Lakers; Avery Johnson for pulling out all the stops in coach bitching ("bear-hug" 'nuff said); Cuban for only pointing out flaws in the NBA "system" when it negatively impacts his precious Mavs (I used to think he was good for the NBA as a whole, but now he's just become a whiny, blogging, sending videos to the league bitch).

There are a lot of reasons... and they increased once I moved to Texas because I've already hated the city of Dallas and the Cowboys for years, but the increase in hype that surrounds this sligthly above-average Mavs team has only aggravated my feelings of disgust.

Funny thing is, even though the Suns are #4, I never said they were "better than the Mavs" or "arguably the best in the West." I'm not putting too much stock in this win streak over mediocre opponents, unlike you, who put waaaaayyy too much stock in a win streak that included two wins against MEMPHIS!

I want to see how the rest of the seaon plays out: Amare's progress, switch to new ball, rematches with Mavs, Lakers, Spurs, and Jazz before I make any statements about the future of the Suns' season and post-season. I still think this Suns team can beat the Mavs in a 7-game series if you want me to make any kind of future prediction.

[dirk4mvp]

wtf is a plano kid? And that's a pretty stupid reason to hate somebody for what they eat and where they went to school.

[RonMexico]

wtf is a plano kid? And that's a pretty stupid reason to hate somebody for what they eat and where they went to school.

I'm an Arizona State fan - we hate players from the University of Arizona... and a Plano kid is a rich-ass, drug-using, fairweather fan.

[RonMexico]

But it's not a bad reason to hate them for punching people in the nuts... I'm glad we settled that one.

[leemajors]

is plano still the smack capital?

[RonMexico]

is plano still the smack capital?

Oh yeah - by far... apparently, superfan #41 over there doesn't even know what we're talking about.

Ok, dirk4mvp - how about I hate Terry for carrying the ball all the time, being as un-clutch as Dirk, and for making that stupid puckered lip face when he hits any shot in the 4th quarter.

[mavsfan1000]

I guess the mavs got lucky again facing the Lakers on a back to back game without Odom. :lol

[RonMexico]

I guess the mavs got lucky again facing the Lakers on a back to back game without Odom. :lol

Kind of... if they hadn't let Houston back into it, the Lakers would have been more rested. But Odom was the key - the Lakers give up 11 ppg more (109) since 04-05 when Odom is out of the line-up... Mavs got 110 tonight...

[dirk4mvp]

Oh yeah - by far... apparently, superfan #41 over there doesn't even know what we're talking about.

Ok, dirk4mvp - how about I hate Terry for carrying the ball all the time, being as un-clutch as Dirk, and for making that stupid puckered lip face when he hits any shot in the 4th quarter.


I don't give a shit what a plano is. I'm guessing it's some stupid ass word made in texas.


Terry's hit more game winning shots than anybody on the suns.

[RonMexico]

Terry's hit more game winning shots than anybody on the suns.

Plano is a suburb of Dallas, dumbass (typical of your kind though - like a Mavs fan doesn't know much about the NBA at-large, how can I expect one to know more about the metropolitan area outside of American Airlines Center?).

I guess by "hitting more game-winning shots than anyone on the Suns," you're ignoring his Game 6 choke-fest in the Finals and Nash's huge night in New Jersey. It's easy for the Suns to avoid game winners when they're blowing teams out (not giving Sloan his 1,000 in a landslide in Utah).

Sidenote from that game: I love how Mavs fans say they get a lot of assists on their baskets because they play a slower, half-court game with post-ups. No one plays more ball-control offense than Jerry Sloan and the Jazz hit 38 FGs on 24 assists against you. But I guess JET was hitting "too many big shots" that game to dish out any assists...

[LB7]

You can hate or like any of the Mavs for all I care. I do, however, think its immature and childish to hate them for the reasons you listed. Personally, I can't really hate players. I don't know them well enough to know if why I hate them is really true. Thats like me saying I hate Tim Duncan because he gets every call in the book or I don't like his haircut and caveman beard (your comment about Stack??). Its not his fault if he is a good player and I wouldn't mind having him on my team.

I just think you sounded very immature saying you hate Jason Terry because he eats chicken, and Josh for his "monkey nature", whatever that means. How can you possibly hate Avery Johnson? You hate everyone that has ever said something you didn't agree with? Deaven George just because he used to play for the Lakers? Guess that means you hate Robert Horry and the entire Laker team for that matter. Dirk for calling out teammates and never admitting he choked? Really. Yeah he called them out 2 years ago but I believe he has more than owned up to failing in the finals through multiple interviews asking the same questions about whether it still hurts or not. I don't get it. You sound like a little kid who doesn't like something just cuz he doesn't have it. Nut-punching...ok thats a decent reason especially if you are a guy. But...the next time you lose your temper, think about everyone who should "hate" you going by your guidelines.

Guess I just really don't understand hating someone unless they actually did something to you personally. Hating someone you don't know, much less met in real life, just childish. It is what it is....just hating.

[RonMexico]

You can hate or like any of the Mavs for all I care. I do, however, think its immature and childish to hate them for the reasons you listed. Personally, I can't really hate players. I don't know them well enough to know if why I hate them is really true. Thats like me saying I hate Tim Duncan because he gets every call in the book or I don't like his haircut and caveman beard (your comment about Stack??). Its not his fault if he is a good player and I wouldn't mind having him on my team.

I just think you sounded very immature saying you hate Jason Terry because he eats chicken, and Josh for his "monkey nature", whatever that means. How can you possibly hate Avery Johnson? You hate everyone that has ever said something you didn't agree with? Deaven George just because he used to play for the Lakers? Guess that means you hate Robert Horry and the entire Laker team for that matter. Dirk for calling out teammates and never admitting he choked? Really. Yeah he called them out 2 years ago but I believe he has more than owned up to failing in the finals through multiple interviews asking the same questions about whether it still hurts or not. I don't get it. You sound like a little kid who doesn't like something just cuz he doesn't have it. Nut-punching...ok thats a decent reason especially if you are a guy. But...the next time you lose your temper, think about everyone who should "hate" you going by your guidelines.

Guess I just really don't understand hating someone unless they actually did something to you personally. Hating someone you don't know, much less met in real life, just childish. It is what it is....just hating.

Remind me:when did this board became an after school special?

And I would not want Stack on my team, regardless of how he looks.

[dirk4mvp]

Plano is a suburb of Dallas, dumbass (typical of your kind though - like a Mavs fan doesn't know much about the NBA at-large, how can I expect one to know more about the metropolitan area outside of American Airlines Center?).



maybe I don't know what Plano is because I've never been there........???


But I forgot you know everything possible there is to know.

[RonMexico]

maybe I don't know what Plano is because I've never been there........???


But I forgot you know everything possible there is to know.


Well, the question is, then, where do you live? It's only one of the largest and most popular suburbs of Shitville - sorry, I mean Dallas - so how does the guy from Phoenix and Houston know about it? I've never been there either, pal.

Yeah, I pretty much do know everything... it puts you at a disadvantage.

There's really only one way to settle this - a game of one-on-one, except you'd probably call as many fouls as Dirk does. Maybe we'll have to play Trivial Pursuit or something... that'll be a quick game.

[dirk4mvp]

We could play one-on-one. I'd win. We could play trivail pursuit. You'd win. Let's play Tekken or something for the tiebreaker.



Yeah, I pretty much do know everything... it puts you at a disadvantage.


Well, the question is, then, where do you live?

[RonMexico]

We could play one-on-one. I'd win. We could play trivail pursuit. You'd win. Let's play Tekken or something for the tiebreaker.

I was just asking if you lived in Dallas or not - wondering if you were some kind of north Texas bandwagon jumper like from Longview or Tyler or Amarillo. You sure you win at one-on-one? Be truthful - what's your basketball experience and your height/weight? I'm just curious here. I don't know about Tekken - maybe NBA Jam.

[dirk4mvp]

I was just asking if you lived in Dallas or not - wondering if you were some kind of north Texas bandwagon jumper like from Longview or Tyler or Amarillo. You sure you win at one-on-one? Be truthful - what's your basketball experience and your height/weight? I'm just curious here. I don't know about Tekken - maybe NBA Jam.


I don't live in Dallas. currently playing hs varsity. 6'3"-6-4" and like 175-180 lbs.


NBA Jam? Rack me up a W.

[RonMexico]

Ok - I haven't played HS varsity for 5 years... and that's about 5 years and 1,000 beers ago.

[LB7]

Remind me:when did this board became an after school special?

And I would not want Stack on my team, regardless of how he looks.
I love the brush off. The total lack of comment on what my point actually was. BTW, I'm a 22 year old female, so you can talk to me like one. Love the respect for other posters with a different opinion. Another very mature quality you have.

[RonMexico]

I love the brush off. The total lack of comment on what my point actually was. BTW, I'm a 22 year old female, so you can talk to me like one. Love the respect for other posters with a different opinion. Another very mature quality you have.

Ok - to address your other points: Yes, I hate everyone on the Lakers. It is ok for me to dislike Jason Terry for the way he talks, acts, plays, and for where he went to school. (Side note: there is not a single player on the Mavs I would want to come to the Suns - previous ones I would accept were Nash and Finley, but they're both gone now).

No, Robert Horry redeemed himself by destroyed the cocky-ass Pistons and Larry Brown in the Finals of 2005, because I used to like him when he played for the Suns and Rockets.

I've never like Devean George, Kobe Bryant, Phil Jackson, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, Luke Walton.... the list goes on. Josh Howard's "monkey nature" is in regards to his long arms and his jungle-like exclamations whenever he hits a shot.

I'm not being a hater - there are people on this board who say they hate when Jason Terry gives interviews, and I agree with them. He is not a post-season clutch player and he gets away with carrying the ball and traveling on a daily basis, and he does not deserve to be higher in the all-star voting than Tony Parker.

Devin Harris's little honeymoon of last season is slowly wearing off, as he realizes every lay-up he makes will not be an automatic 3-point play, and he's not going to draw a charge everytime he cuts off (see "blocking foul") a player moving toward the basket.

Stackhouse is an egomaniac who has never lived up to his potential coming out of North Carolina and is still a me-first player. (I don't think I've ever seen someone justify a boneheaded move like running back to the 3 point line against SA in Game 2 last year like he has - I quote: "I had a real good look." He must have forgotten that he barely grazed the rim with Ginobili right in his face.)

Dirk is not the consummate professional that Tim Duncan is - much less Steve Nash. Kobe is even a better leader than Dirk. Dirk cares more about getting his touches and his 25 ppg than he does about winning and setting a good example for his teammates (but he really gave it to that exercise bike last year!). He doesn't have what it takes (yet) to bring his team a championship (unless the Mavs suddenly get the calls D-Wade did last year... oh, wait - they already do!).

[RonMexico]

BTW, I'm a 22 year old female, so you can talk to me like one. Love the respect for other posters with a different opinion. Another very mature quality you have.

Hope that works for you, baby doll.

[dirk4mvp]

nd he gets away with carrying the ball and traveling on a daily basis,

If that's the case, by default, you must also hate Iverson and Wade, the 2 guys that get away with it the most.


Stackhouse is an egomaniac who has never lived up to his potential coming out of North Carolina

?????wtf?????

hasn't lived up to potential? No player dubbed "the next michael" ever lives up to that potential. But stack has most certainly lived up to his potential.

[LB7]

Hope that works for you, baby doll.
Works for me. Obviously you are entitled to your opinions and I don't expect them to be the same as mine.

I just disagree with you about Terry not being a clutch player. Now don't get me wrong here, I do not believe he is the most clutch player by any means but he is pretty clutch. You threw the word "post-season" in there but you do realize he has only been to the playoffs twice now right? First year, he was very clutch against Houston in game 7 of the first round. Can't argue about the next round. When we lost to Phoenix, we fell apart in more ways than one. Now last year, he was very clutch in the SA series. Our biggest goal wasn't just to beat the Spurs, but he was a huge reason we were able to get over that hump. He was very clutch in the OT victory at home and showed up huge in game 7 after the infamous nut-punch. Again, the Miami series, no one was clutch, I would agree there. But to say he isn't clutch even a little bit is odd to me.

On Dirk being selfish...where do you ever see that? The guy wants to win. He could go for 30-40 every night, but many times this year alone, he has settled for 20 if that. When Josh is playing so well which he has many times in the first quarter alone this season, Dirk steps aside. There have been a few first quarters where he has taken only a few shots because others are hot. The guy has become a much better passer and is a big reason why the Mavs have there assist totals up from a couple years ago. You can't watch many Mavs game to say the guy only cares about HIS numbers. He makes some great passes and really tries to get teammates involved. Thats a big reason why Damp has been more effective. Dirk and co. finding him early.

There are things I agree with you on, but Dirk being selfish and only caring about his numbers is absurd to me. He takes over games completely if he is on fire i.e. Suns WCF game where he dropped 50, but there are plenty of times he doesn't mind letting Josh or JET steal the show. Again, you must not watch many Mavs games, which I would understand because I don't watch many Suns games either.

Oh, and the only guy I don't like a whole lot from the Suns is Raja Bell. Yes, he used to be a Mav and I wish he would have produced like that when we had him. However, he is one of those defenders who annoys the crap out of you, and dare I say...dirty. Yeah he is but I'm sure he knows and thats what works for him. I've played a lot of sports and play soccer in college now, and I just can't stand players like him. But....thats just my own opinion for whatever thats worth :)

[mavs>spurs2]

Hey RonMexico, since when did "slightly above average teams" as you put it, make it to the finals? I always thought the best teams only made it there. I think your mav hate is keeping you from seeing the truth. I'll take the mavs over the suns if they meet in the playoffs, we can make it a sig bet or something if you have the balls. So are you down with that?

[RonMexico]

Hey RonMexico, since when did "slightly above average teams" as you put it, make it to the finals? I always thought the best teams only made it there. I think your mav hate is keeping you from seeing the truth. I'll take the mavs over the suns if they meet in the playoffs, we can make it a sig bet or something if you have the balls. So are you down with that?

Um, please don't get into this type of argument... Suns have been to two straight WCF and both times have been with a worse team than this one... I'm not going to make a 'sig bet' in December, btw -let's make it in April... So what if last year's Mav team made it - they won't make it this year... and they didn't close the deal in the Finals.

[RonMexico]

The problem about Dirk dropping 50 on the Suns in the WCF is the fact that he went to the line 18+ times... that's a problem for me, especially considering the fact that you all complain a lot about how much D-Wade went to the FT line.

[dirk4mvp]

The problem about Dirk dropping 50 on the Suns in the WCF is the fact that he went to the line 18+ times... that's a problem for me, especially considering the fact that you all complain a lot about how much D-Wade went to the FT line.


You have an excuse for everything.

[RonMexico]

You have an excuse for everything.

Oh, ok - if I weren't too busy right now, I would go back to all the threads that occurred during the Finals in June and find every point where a Mavs fan (probably you included) bitched about "the treatment" D-Wade was getting...

All I'm saying is don't bring up that Dirk dropped 50 on the Suns when Nash dropped 2 straight triple-doubles the year before and almost a 3rd in a row to win it in 6 games (including a 48-pt performance in Dallas)... this really is the year that decides which is the better team and I'm excited for it...