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mabber

12-13-2006, 07:57 PM

Odom's out for a while and LA played last night. Dallas should mop the floor with them.

Yeah, they should but they probably won't. Mavs have struggled against the Lakers (even after Shaq left). I would be a little surprised if the Lakers won but only cuz the Mavs are coming off a loss. Lakers can win this game though.

baseline bum

12-13-2006, 08:04 PM

No they can't. Odom is reason #1A for their improved record (with #1B being 16 of their first 20 games being played at home).

1Parker1

12-13-2006, 08:27 PM

Easy win for the Mavs, I predict blowout. No Odom and a back to back for Miami.

:lol Unless of course, Kobe decides to outscore the entire Mavs team by himself again :smokin

BUMP

12-13-2006, 08:35 PM

ive never ever been so confident before a Laker game than now. they just used a lot of energy last night to win without Odom and its a back2back. they will have no energy. the Lakers have no chance to beat the Mavs tonight, and ive never said that before

dirk4mvp

12-13-2006, 08:51 PM

Gotta stop...or at least slow down Kobe. Simple as that.

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 09:03 PM

kobe will rape the mavericks!

LA24

12-13-2006, 09:04 PM

Phil better not put crap no-D Brian Cook on Dirk !!!! :madrun

Cook better not even play tonight !!!!!!!!!!!!!

dirk4mvp

12-13-2006, 09:08 PM

kobe will rape the mavericks!

The Kings are doing great.

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 09:19 PM

is it just me or has this suns/heat game turned out to be a good one?

dirk4mvp

12-13-2006, 09:20 PM

^ yeah. The suns can't keep a lead and Quinn and Kapono is playing good ball. But Nash just hit a huge 3

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 09:26 PM

if posey woulda hit the 3 it would have been reachable, but now its impossible

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 09:28 PM

marions hair is making me trip out

#1kingsfan

12-13-2006, 09:40 PM

Howard looks like a horse.... =/

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 09:44 PM

avery looks like a demon

baseline bum

12-13-2006, 09:47 PM

Nowitzki has 4 assists 3 1/2 minutes into the game. I told you this game would be a joke.

baseline bum

12-13-2006, 09:48 PM

LA's defense is pathetic.

baseline bum

12-13-2006, 09:51 PM

LAMO! LA's broadcasters just said Dampier looked like Romo against the Saints when he threw a long pass right into Luke Walton's hands.

#1kingsfan

12-13-2006, 09:55 PM

Dirk is having a pretty good game so far.

baseline bum

12-13-2006, 09:58 PM

Man, LA looks like a completely different team when they have Bynum in as opposed to scrub-ass Kwame Brown.

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 09:59 PM

lakers gonna handle town biddness!

dirk4mvp

12-13-2006, 10:04 PM

Good first quarter. Dirk and Howard starting off hot. :tu

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 10:30 PM

if kobe starts lighting it up yall are fucked

RonMexico

12-13-2006, 10:43 PM

Terry, Dirk, and Howard are hitting their open shots - they'll have this one if it stays that way.

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 10:43 PM

i hate listening to jason terry interviews.......

RonMexico

12-13-2006, 10:53 PM

i hate listening to jason terry interviews.......

It's terrible isn't it? The best are when he throws in things like, "Praise Jesus... Thank the Lord I was hitting 3's today"

Budkin

12-13-2006, 11:12 PM

I just think about him missing that 3 at the end of Game 6 of the Finals. Wonder what God was thinking about that one? :lol

01Snake

12-13-2006, 11:26 PM

Cheering when Kobe goes down. Nice fans.

dav4463

12-13-2006, 11:27 PM

I wish Odom would have been able to guard Dirk.

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 11:27 PM

the lakers are coming back

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 11:29 PM

wow @ kobe calling himself "mamba the killer black snake"

dirk4mvp

12-13-2006, 11:33 PM

Diop it like it's hot!

ducks

12-13-2006, 11:34 PM

dirk gets the call
shocked not

dg7md

12-13-2006, 11:37 PM

"Praise Jesus... Thank the Lord I was hitting 3's today"

:lol

Dirk Nowitzki

12-13-2006, 11:40 PM

15-7! up 2 after 3 this game is over we are just letting the Lakers hang around. :elephant :elephant Mavs win baby!!!!! :downspin: :clap :clap :clap FUCK you lakers!!!!

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 11:41 PM

dirk blowcockski in your fucking dreams

Fillmoe

12-13-2006, 11:55 PM

:lol :lol

dirk4mvp

12-13-2006, 11:56 PM

nice bail out

dg7md

12-14-2006, 12:01 AM

Kobe's gonna get 45+ points in the next meeting.

Nashfan

12-14-2006, 12:01 AM

dirk4mvp,

Looks like your team cannot keep a lead either tonight. So, try to think before you write!

dirk4mvp

12-14-2006, 12:03 AM

^ haven't they opened up a 12 point lead in the 4th after being up 2 at the end of the 3rd?

Nashfan

12-14-2006, 12:04 AM

dirk4mvp,

Also we have not been blown out this year like your team has been either so I would not go tooting your horn just yet.

dirk4mvp

12-14-2006, 12:05 AM

Nashfan,

I thank you for telling me what I already know. I'll toot my van horn all I want.

Nashfan

12-14-2006, 12:12 AM

That is with your starters in the game. We had the bench in the game when we lost the lead and the Suns get bored easily with bad teams.

01Snake

12-14-2006, 12:14 AM

When did Cuban turn into such a lardass?

dirk4mvp

12-14-2006, 12:16 AM

When did Cuban turn into such a lardass?

Dirk fucked up the exercise bike, alas no physical fitness.

That is with your starters in the game. We had the bench in the game when we lost the lead and the Suns get bored easily with bad teams.

Okkkayyy. The suns damn near let the likes of Quinn and Kapono (wtf?) win, not Wade or Shaq.

Nashfan

12-14-2006, 12:31 AM

dirk4mvp,

That was with our bench playing if you read my earlier post! :rolleyes

dirk4mvp

12-14-2006, 12:33 AM

So, who's fault is that? If you're getting your ass waxed by bench players....playing your own bench players, shouldn't you put in your starters so waxing of the ass would cease?

Nashfan

12-14-2006, 12:39 AM

Oh, also Mavs won just by nine points and that is with their starters playing heavy minutes and without Lamar Odom playing who I think is playing much better than Kobe this year. Actually, I think the Lakers play better without Kobe as he jacks up a lot of shots and without him they play as a team. Just don't like you saying that the Suns give up leads without you looking at what your own team does also. As I also said we have not been blown out this year, all our losses are close games and were earlier in the year and against playoff teams with the Suns have a ton of back to back games early in the schedule. They are now gelling and only getting better. They still have a long way to go but they are getting there. Also did I mention that this was the fifth game of a long road trip and the Suns went 5 and 0? They had to be physically tired as well as mentally tired after that road trip so it was to be expected that they lost focus against Miami without any challenge with Shaq and Wade out. So, what is the Mavs excuse tonight?

Nashfan

12-14-2006, 12:41 AM

We did finally put some of our starters back in to end the Heats run. Helps if you watch the game you know before you speak!

dirk4mvp

12-14-2006, 12:43 AM

So, what is the Mavs excuse tonight?

Thanks for not making sense. They got it done. They chalked a W. I guess the only excuse is that they didn't win by 10? Dirk didn't get 2 extra assist for a t-d?

dirk4mvp

12-14-2006, 12:45 AM

We did finally put some of our starters back in to end the Heats run. Helps if you watch the game you know before you speak!

I did watch. I watched a crippled heat team make a run after being down 25+.

Nashfan

12-14-2006, 12:51 AM

I give up trying to talk with you and have you understand that we are not the only team that gives up leads. :bang That is my point! :lol If you cannot understand this then I guess it is hopeless trying to talk with you. :rolleyes Apparently the Mavs can do no wrong in your opinion and only the Suns give up leads. Every team at one time or another gives up leads, as I said tonight the Suns did not feel challenged with Shaq and Wade out and lost focus and interest. Happens to the best of teams. :spin

RonMexico

12-14-2006, 01:06 AM

No, only the Mavs opponents don't give up leads - that's why they get blown out against Utah and the Clips... :lol

I guess when Dirk actually gets a triple-double, then he can be considered in MVP talk. Unfortunately, he'll never be that well-rounded of a player.

And it wasn't a "crippled" Heat team - it was a bunch of young guys playing with the energy the veterans on the Suns should have been playing with, much like last night's game in Houston where they went on a 25-1 run and came up short because of their inexperience. It was a lucky win for the Suns (Nash's 3 really put the game away, though - hmmm, wonder why he's an MVP-winner...) and a good showing for the Heat's young guys...

Nashfan

12-14-2006, 01:11 AM

RonMexico

12-14-2006, 01:20 AM

Hey, RonMexico,

Don't forget that the Mavs got blown out against the Wizards also if I remember correctly! I agree it was a lucky win for the Suns after they goofed around and did not stay focused tonight. Seem to start when Banks came in. Cannot really stand that guy. We need a better point guard to back up Nash in my opinion.

I know - and Banks can be good - I've played with him in video games - I know he has potential. His confidence must be out of whack or something. He looks confused out there and starts rushing things. I thought that game against Philly was the one where he'd turn it around, but it didn't happen. He's a good, young, fast player and one that can pressure the ball, but he has to play consistently, or Nash is going to wear down.

Barbosa does not cut it as a backup PG - he's a natural 2-guard and does not do a good job creating his own shot or dishing off to teammates. Barbosa is most effective shooting a spot up 3 or getting set-up heading to the basket.

phyzik

12-14-2006, 02:02 AM

So who won??? I dont bother watching "lesser" teams... Damn peasants :lol

ponky

12-14-2006, 02:05 AM

So who won??? I dont bother watching "lesser" teams... Damn peasants :lol

shouldn't you be worrying about your BTB game tomorrow? :spin

dirk4mvp

12-14-2006, 07:16 AM

RonMexico

12-14-2006, 07:57 AM

hey dumbass,

every team gives up leads at some pont. No team gives up more big leads tha.....the suns.

That's true... at least they get those leads, unlike you guys who get your asses handed against Utah, LA, and Detroit.

JLH Fans

12-14-2006, 08:04 AM

BUMP

12-14-2006, 09:15 AM

lol @ the Nashfan

Mr.Bottomtooth

12-14-2006, 10:26 AM

That's true... at least they get those leads, unlike you guys who get your asses handed against Utah, LA, and Detroit.
And beat the Suns...

mabber

12-14-2006, 10:39 AM

I know - and Banks can be good - I've played with him in video games - I know he has potential. His confidence must be out of whack or something. He looks confused out there and starts rushing things. I thought that game against Philly was the one where he'd turn it around, but it didn't happen. He's a good, young, fast player and one that can pressure the ball, but he has to play consistently, or Nash is going to wear down.

Barbosa does not cut it as a backup PG - he's a natural 2-guard and does not do a good job creating his own shot or dishing off to teammates. Barbosa is most effective shooting a spot up 3 or getting set-up heading to the basket.

As a Sun's fan, are you worried at all that they maybe playing Amare too much already? I think they should be even more cautious with him than they are being.

RonMexico

12-14-2006, 03:16 PM

As a Sun's fan, are you worried at all that they maybe playing Amare too much already? I think they should be even more cautious with him than they are being.

I don't know yet... I was more concerned at the beginning of the year, but now he just seems to be getting stronger each game. He was having drop-offs from game-to-game early in the year (and he was sucking), so his minutes were down - perhaps that was just conditioning. But the fact that he was in the 4th game of a road trip and goes 40 mins and scores 30 pts against Dwight Howard on the 2nd game of a B2B makes me feel much more comfortable about his progress. It's not like last year where he scores 20+ against Portland and we declare him "back" and then he's done for the season 2 games later.

RonMexico

12-14-2006, 03:17 PM

Very "funny" that the guy who is not good enough to back up Nash,was good enough to be our starting PG last year. :depressed

See... he played well in Minny, though. I think he lit up the Suns for 25 one night so that must have caught their attention enough to sign him. I've been waiting for that player all year.

mabber

12-14-2006, 04:18 PM

I don't know yet... I was more concerned at the beginning of the year, but now he just seems to be getting stronger each game. He was having drop-offs from game-to-game early in the year (and he was sucking), so his minutes were down - perhaps that was just conditioning. But the fact that he was in the 4th game of a road trip and goes 40 mins and scores 30 pts against Dwight Howard on the 2nd game of a B2B makes me feel much more comfortable about his progress. It's not like last year where he scores 20+ against Portland and we declare him "back" and then he's done for the season 2 games later.

I just hope they don't play him too much cuz another injury would suck. I'm hoping he gets all or most of the way back cuz he's an amazing talent and is fun to watch.

RonMexico

12-14-2006, 05:37 PM

I just hope they don't play him too much cuz another injury would suck. I'm hoping he gets all or most of the way back cuz he's an amazing talent and is fun to watch.

I agree completely - I'm really hoping he doesn't wear down - he's not showing any signs of knee trouble or favoring it like he was last year and early this season/summer. Not only is he incredibly fun to watch, but he's a key to any kind of playoff run in this year's Western Conference.

BUMP

12-14-2006, 06:51 PM

it would be nice if Amare learned some post moves

RonMexico

12-14-2006, 07:00 PM

it would be nice if Amare learned some post moves

Meh - he's got some... he needs more... he has more than Dirk has, that's for sure...

He just needs to get the 15-19 ft jumper down solid.

1Parker1

12-14-2006, 08:54 PM

i hate listening to jason terry interviews.......

:lmao :lmao Me too!!! I thought I was the only one.

I don't know what it is, but he just sounds so....fake and annoying!! I especially love the, "It's all in God's hands, that's why we got the lead..." :lol

RonMexico

12-14-2006, 09:37 PM

:lmao :lmao Me too!!! I thought I was the only one.

I don't know what it is, but he just sounds so....fake and annoying!! I especially love the, "It's all in God's hands, that's why we got the lead..." :lol

Yes! Oh, you are not the only one... I think it's the ever-present smirk and fake southern accent he puts on during his interviews, as well.

dirk4mvp

12-14-2006, 09:56 PM

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http://www.detiksport.com/content_images/content/2006/06/09/78/JasonTerry-AFPfinal-JeffHaynes-isi.jpg

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dirk4mvp

12-15-2006, 07:21 AM

Yes! Oh, you are not the only one... I think it's the ever-present smirk and fake southern accent he puts on during his interviews, as well.

Did you also hate Tim Thomas? Because the "you can't see me" is about 10x more annoying and stupid than the smirk. When really, we could see him. Well, because he sucked.

http://www.espn.go.com/photo/2006/0531/nba_g_timthomas_268.jpg

mabber

12-15-2006, 02:56 PM

Meh - he's got some... he needs more... he has more than Dirk has, that's for sure...

He just needs to get the 15-19 ft jumper down solid.

Dirk doesn't have ANY post moves. At least any that are worth a damn. He really has to face the basket to do anything. They've been talking for the last 3 years that he's been working on a couple of post moves (hook shot being one of them) but he's never used them. I really don't see where it matters anyway. He gets the ball 15ft from basket, turns to face the hoop and either shoots over defender or tries to drive by him. That's all he really needs since he's such a great outside shooter.

RonMexico

12-15-2006, 05:08 PM

Did you also hate Tim Thomas? Because the "you can't see me" is about 10x more annoying and stupid than the smirk. When really, we could see him. Well, because he sucked.

http://www.espn.go.com/photo/2006/0531/nba_g_timthomas_268.jpg

....and they chose not to match the contract the Clips gave him and now he's back to his lazy sucking in LA...

I still contend that the most valuable player to have is Tim Thomas (maybe even Bonzi Wells, also) in a contract year because he'll play like the man for about 3 months and then get his fat contract and sit on it...

mabber

12-15-2006, 05:15 PM

....and they chose not to match the contract the Clips gave him and now he's back to his lazy sucking in LA...

I still contend that the most valuable player to have is Tim Thomas (maybe even Bonzi Wells, also) in a contract year because he'll play like the man for about 3 months and then get his fat contract and sit on it...

My favorite part of the last season's playoffs was when Thomas called Dirk a pussy and then Dirk dropped 50 pts on his sorry ass :lol

RonMexico

12-15-2006, 06:32 PM

My favorite part of the last season's playoffs was when Thomas called Dirk a pussy and then Dirk dropped 50 pts on his sorry ass :lol

Yeah, yeah yeah - I've heard that plenty of times... I thought it was funny in the first half... then the 4th quarter came and I was pissed that he awoke that fire in Dirk.

My least favorite part of these past 2 Mavs nat'l broadcasts is that they've come against an Iverson-less Sixer team and an Odom-less Laker team so the Mavs are obviously gonna win those.

dirk4mvp

12-15-2006, 07:01 PM

Yeah, yeah yeah - I've heard that plenty of times... I thought it was funny in the first half... then the 4th quarter came and I was pissed that he awoke that fire in Dirk.

My least favorite part of these past 2 Mavs nat'l broadcasts is that they've come against an Iverson-less Sixer team and an Odom-less Laker team so the Mavs are obviously gonna win those.

Indeed. That's almost as bad as the nat'l televised game of the Suns vs. a Wade-less and Shaq-less Heat that the suns almost blew a 25 point lead to the likes of Quinn and Kapono.

RonMexico

12-15-2006, 09:32 PM

Indeed. That's almost as bad as the nat'l televised game of the Suns vs. a Wade-less and Shaq-less Heat that the suns almost blew a 25 point lead to the likes of Quinn and Kapono.

Actually, that made it better because it brought the Suns back to earth and woke them up enough to jump on Golden State 16-2 midway through the 1st quarter. And who doesn't like it when 12 year olds like Chris Quinn get a chance out there? These best part about letting these scrubs in is that it gives me a chance to scout out the players I think should be in the running for backup to Steve Nash - i.e. Travis Deiner of the Magic, Chris Quinn, etc. All I'm saying is that it doesn't give me a chance to compare how the Mavs and Suns are right now because they're both playing weaker opponents.

RonMexico

12-15-2006, 10:12 PM

Are the Bod fragrance spray commercials the worst of all time?

dirk4mvp

12-16-2006, 12:22 AM

Well, I didn't get to see tonight's game.....had practice. But the boxscore looked colorful. 6 guys on the mavs were in double figures and 4 on the 76ers were in double figures.

RonMexico

12-16-2006, 12:24 AM

Basically, it looked like the Mavs were playing a high school team out there with no AI and no C-Webb - lots of young guys playing hard, but you knew in the back your mind they really had no chance.

Holmes_Fans

12-16-2006, 12:59 AM

....and they chose not to match the contract the Clips gave him and now he's back to his lazy sucking in LA...

I still contend that the most valuable player to have is Tim Thomas (maybe even Bonzi Wells, also) in a contract year because he'll play like the man for about 3 months and then get his fat contract and sit on it...
He isn't lazy, he just sucks.

All he can do is shoot 3's, which is why he did so good in PHX.

RonMexico

12-16-2006, 02:13 AM

He isn't lazy, he just sucks.

All he can do is shoot 3's, which is why he did so good in PHX.

Typical Mavs fan, doesn't know anything about the rest of the NBA or Tim Thomas's history of playing well at the end of the year when his contract is expiring. He was a top 5 pick out of Villanova - he's always had the potential to be a good player, but he is continually out of shape and rebounds poorly because he's lazy.