Tony's 3 point %

[SuperManu!!!]

So far, he is shooting beyond the arc for 0.529 %. That's quite awesome! :clap Do you think he should take more of those shots or continue developing it?

[Chris Childs]

Take more of those shots

[xamila rey]

take few more shots per game.
if we have a lot of patience with michael............
why not with tony?

[exstatic]

The thing is, Tony is usually at or near the top of the arc. If he misses, the long rebound starts a break the other way. If you notice, Spur players in that position will sometimes pass up an open shot to get the ball to the corner. It's a shorter 3 point shot, and if they miss, the ball goes towards one or the other corner, depending on if it's long or short.

[Spurologist]

I like the rate at which he is shooting them. He takes one three two out of three games (0.7).

He shoots when he is open and sometimes has to take long range shots to beat the shot clock. Iif he shoots it more often because his percentage would drop. That's what is happening with Luke Walton. He was leading the league early on in three point shooting but his percentage dropped because he isn't natural 3 pt shooter. And like exstatic said, long range shots can lead to more buckets the other way = Pop would eat tp alive

[MI21]

The thing is, Tony is usually at or near the top of the arc. If he misses, the long rebound starts a break the other way. If you notice, Spur players in that position will sometimes pass up an open shot to get the ball to the corner. It's a shorter 3 point shot, and if they miss, the ball goes towards one or the other corner, depending on if it's long or short.

That doesn't really make sense. 3pt shots from the corner are usually taken by guards. It's the guards job to get back on defense to stop transition buckets. When you are stuck on the corner baseline, it's an extra 25 feet you have to cover to get back on transition defense. Teams are more likely to be able to successfully fast break you on a corner 3 miss than they are on a straight on or 45 degree 3 ball.

[Bob Lanier]

:tu to MI2I. Baseline shots always cause worse transition defense.

[Behrooz24]

If there's a shot from the corner, there will always be another Spur at the top of the arc acting as 'insurance' for a fast break. If there's a 3PA from straight on, the defender can just sprint down to the other end while the shooter is landing/watching the shot.

[picnroll]

Parker not infrequently rotates to the corner, particularly when Manu takes the ball at the top of the key. Several of Parkers 3 pointers have been from the corners. Some have been from the top of the key with the shot clock running down.

[picnroll]

:tu to MI2I. Baseline shots always cause worse transition defense.
Not if the floors balanced.

[ShoogarBear]

This is a job for nba.com hotzones:


97 left corner
Barry 18
Bowen 28
Finley 17
Ginobili 10
Horry 9
Parker 3
Udrich 10

85 right corner
Barry 12
Bowen 31
Finley 7
Ginobili 5
Horry 6
Parker 3
Bonner 3
Udirch 12

on the Spurs, the only full-time definite guards taking 3s are Parker and Udrich, and the only definite forwards are Horry and Finley (and Bonner if you want to count him). Manu, Barry, and to a lesser extent Bowen spend too much time at both 2 and 3 to differentiate (although Barry is less likely to be a 3 and Bowen is less likely to be a 2).

Parker and Udrich take 16% of all 3PA. From the corners they take 15% of the 3s. No difference there.

Horry, Finley, and Bonner take 28% of the Spurs' 3PA. From the corners they take 23% of the 3s.

Allowing for variations in how you categorize Bowen/Barry/Finley, I wouldn't say that the Spur guards take significantly more 3s from the corners than anyplace else.

My original impression, before I did the numbers, is that forwards in the NBA are more likely to shoot corner 3s than guards.

[exstatic]

:tu to MI2I. Baseline shots always cause worse transition defense.
Holy shit, someone needs to tell the Spurs, especially Bruce.:toast

I think Behrooz is right. If they shoot from the corner, the top guy backpedals to play back for the break. If you shoot from the top, there is no safety valve defender. Barry is the only Spur that I see take the preponderance of his shots from up top, and at 52+% with a high shot volume, I'd say it was an acceptable risk.

[picnroll]

Some guards do shoot predominantly from the top, Arenas, Iverson and Kobe for example.

[Solid D]

Tony has been surprisingly accurate from the outside and the arc this season. He'll probably take more from there as his career moves along.

The 3-point shot from the corner is the closest to the rim because the arc flattens-out there. I think I read that Pop considers the open shot from the corner as a quality spot on the floor.

As long as the players get back quickly and cross-match, the Spurs play well in their transition D. They are fairly quick and they communicate well with each other, which is key. With players like Danny Ferry, Steve Smith and similar slow footspeed players, the Spurs were somewhat vulnerable in transition. They haven't had as many problems with Bruce, Brent, Michael, Manu and Tony.

[kskonn]

Holy shit, someone needs to tell the Spurs, especially Bruce.:toast

I think Behrooz is right. If they shoot from the corner, the top guy backpedals to play back for the break. If you shoot from the top, there is no safety valve defender. Barry is the only Spur that I see take the preponderance of his shots from up top, and at 52+% with a high shot volume, I'd say it was an acceptable risk.

Also Barry seems to naturally shoot and begin to run backwards on almost every shot, it is not to often that you see him get burned on a transition basket off one of his shots.