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TheSanityAnnex
12-20-2006, 07:19 PM
The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS
Sunday Morning Commentary


Herewith at this happy time of year, a few confessions from my
beating heart: I have no freaking clue who Nick and Jessica are. I see them on
the cover of People and Us constantly when I am buying my dog biscuits and
kitty litter. I often ask the checkers at the grocery stores. They never know
who Nick and Jessica are either. Who are they? Will it change my life if I
know who they are and why they have broken up? Why are they so important?

I don't know who Lindsay Lohan is either, and I do not care at all
about Tom Cruise's wife.

Am I going to be called before a Senate committee and asked if I
am a subversive? Maybe, but I just have no clue who Nick and Jessica are.

If this is what it means to be no longer young. It's not so bad.

Next confession:
I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And
it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful
lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don' t
feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to
me.. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a
ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters
celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that
there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house
in Malibu If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the
Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't
think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think
people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period.
I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly
atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution, and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from
that we should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as
we understand Him?

I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too.
But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica
came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh,
this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny,
it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this Happen?"
(regarding Katrina)

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but
for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of
our government and to get out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we
demand He leave us alone?"

In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings,
etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her
body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and
we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The
Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor
as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when
they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we
might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said
an expert should know what he's talking about and we said OK.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to
kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure
it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why
the world's going to hell.

Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what
the Bible says.

Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people
think twice about sharing.

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school
and workplace.
Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to
many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what
they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of
us than what God thinks of us.

phyzik
12-20-2006, 07:45 PM
I agree with just about all of it but the one that I agree with the most???


Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when
they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we
might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said
an expert should know what he's talking about and we said OK.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to
kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Nevermind getting pregnant.....

When I decide to have kids and they act up, they will be well acquainted with the belt.

Cant_Be_Faded
12-20-2006, 08:14 PM
I think not spanking your children is one of the biggest gambles you can possibly take with them because if you don't condition their young minds to avoid committing very bad acts then you leave it completely up to them to create the barriers between right and wrong....i mean its like those parents who tell kids to go to their room, and their room has books, a tv, video games, and a computer; big fucking deal. Spanking is a necessity.

TheSanityAnnex
12-20-2006, 08:16 PM
At one point, my Mom's spankings stopped hurting. She'd have to call me Dad at work and give him a heads up. I used to stuff extra pairs of underwear down my pants if I knew my Dad was going to come home and spank me good.

Marklar MM
12-20-2006, 08:27 PM
Let me just say this...I thought twice about doing shit when I knew what would come when my dad got home.

Extra Stout
12-20-2006, 09:58 PM
The first half of that essay indeed was written by Ben Stein.

Starting with the paragraph, "In light of...," the remainder of the passage is an amalgam of evangelical chain mails promulgated over the last five years.

T Park
12-21-2006, 12:05 AM
Ben Stein is 1000% right on.


Very very well put. :tu :tu :tu

leemajors
12-21-2006, 12:34 AM
guess that artist~!

Dear god,
Hope you got the letter,
And I pray you can make it better down here.
I dont mean a big reduction in the price of beer,
But all the people that you made in your image,
See them starving on their feet,
cause they dont get enough to eat

From god,
I cant believe in you.

Dear god,
Sorry to disturb you,
But I feel that I should be heard loud and clear.
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears,
And all the people that you made in your image,
See them fighting in the street,
cause they cant make opinions meet,
About god,
I cant believe in you.

Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!

Dear god,
Dont know if you noticed,
But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.
Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look,
And all the people that you made in your image,
Still believing that junk is true.
Well I know it aint and so do you,
Dear god,
I cant believe in,
I dont believe in,

I wont believe in heaven and hell.
No saints, no sinners,
No devil as well.
No pearly gates, no thorny crown.
Youre always letting us humans down.
The wars you bring, the babes you drown.
Those lost at sea and never found,
And its the same the whole world round.
The hurt I see helps to compound,
That the father, son and holy ghost,
Is just somebodys unholy hoax,
And if youre up there youll perceive,
That my hearts here upon my sleeve.
If theres one thing I dont believe in...

Its you,
Dear god.

Phil Hellmuth
12-21-2006, 06:05 AM
I believe not sending the message of the lord to others is not a vice. Let us think about this for a second.

I am a catholic believer in God , however I don't believe in the promotion of forcing others to believe what I believe in.

Religion is based on faith. Telling someone to firmly believe in what you believe based by faith is contradicting. How is this so? well.. Faith is a personal rational decision that avoids all earthly and physical laws of nature and only concentrates on the notion of a supreme being. It is bendable and has endless possibilities if one desires to believe in it.

Therefore why must I send something to others (such as email) of my beliefs to others. It is a case of forcing the issue. I believe there is a logical fallacy involved when you are presented with a guilt trip of NOT spreading the message.

for example, I believe in God, i recieve an email that says spread this word of God to others. If you don't you should feel some kind of guilt trip. This is flawed and absurd.. no one should tell you what to think. If a person has a rational mind they can come to their own conclusions about the existence of a supreme being. Just because you don't spread the message of God doesn't degrade your soul, or so to say.

After all in the end, its you and God meeting at the Gates.

Vizzini
12-21-2006, 10:26 AM
I believe not sending the message of the lord to others is not a vice. Let us think about this for a second.

I am a catholic believer in God , however I don't believe in the promotion of forcing others to believe what I believe in.

Religion is based on faith. Telling someone to firmly believe in what you believe based by faith is contradicting. How is this so? well.. Faith is a personal rational decision that avoids all earthly and physical laws of nature and only concentrates on the notion of a supreme being. It is bendable and has endless possibilities if one desires to believe in it.

Therefore why must I send something to others (such as email) of my beliefs to others. It is a case of forcing the issue. I believe there is a logical fallacy involved when you are presented with a guilt trip of NOT spreading the message.

for example, I believe in God, i recieve an email that says spread this word of God to others. If you don't you should feel some kind of guilt trip. This is flawed and absurd.. no one should tell you what to think. If a person has a rational mind they can come to their own conclusions about the existence of a supreme being. Just because you don't spread the message of God doesn't degrade your soul, or so to say.

After all in the end, its you and God meeting at the Gates.


Well put. I am a born and raised Christian, attended religous private schools for my whole life, and I get those e-mails from time to time. I am sick and tired of the guilt trips and the questioning of my faith because I don't forward e-mails to every one in my address list. Faith is not about guilt trips, but its about a deeply held personal beliefs.

TheSanityAnnex
12-21-2006, 10:35 AM
Therefore why must I send something to others (such as email) of my beliefs to others. It is a case of forcing the issue. I believe there is a logical fallacy involved when you are presented with a guilt trip of NOT spreading the message.

for example, I believe in God, i recieve an email that says spread this word of God to others. If you don't you should feel some kind of guilt trip. This is flawed and absurd.. no one should tell you what to think. If a person has a rational mind they can come to their own conclusions about the existence of a supreme being. Just because you don't spread the message of God doesn't degrade your soul, or so to say.

After all in the end, its you and God meeting at the Gates.
:lol, I didn't forward the email. I hope they serve beer in hell.

TheSanityAnnex
12-21-2006, 10:36 AM
The first half of that essay indeed was written by Ben Stein.

Starting with the paragraph, "In light of...," the remainder of the passage is an amalgam of evangelical chain mails promulgated over the last five years.

It did seem strange to me that Ben Stein would be talking about the internet. I just posted the whole damn thing that was sent to me, thanks for clearing that up.

johnsmith
12-21-2006, 10:41 AM
I hope they serve beer in hell.


Tucker Max fan?