What's up with the Heat?

[Kori Ellis]

Heat Deactivate Walker and Posey
Associated Press

MIAMI -- Heat forwards Antoine Walker and James Posey were deactivated for the team's game Wednesday night against the Los Angeles Clippers because they didn't meet a team conditioning goal.

Heat coach Pat Riley, who also announced Wednesday that he was taking a medical leave of absence, said Walker and Posey may be back as soon as Friday in Phoenix -- but could face suspension by Jan. 15 if the undisclosed goal is not met.

"There's been an ongoing conditioning goal that our team has had to make since the summer. ... January was the deadline, they haven't made it, and they knew this was going to happen if they didn't make it," Riley said. "By the way, both of them are in the best condition of their lives. They're very close. But a deadline is a deadline."

Neither player will travel with the Heat to Phoenix on Thursday, instead staying behind to work with team strength and conditioning coach Bill Foran. Miami opens a six-game Western road trip against the Suns on Friday, and it's possible both could join the team sometime during the swing.

Walker declined comment before Wednesday's game, which the Heat lost 110-95.

Posey said his deactivation stemmed from a rule the Heat has about body fat. He said his body fat is 9 percent, but Riley wanted it to be 8 percent.

"He wants the weight to be down and he has his standards, I guess, for the bigs and the perimeters or whatever," Posey said. "It's the weight and for the perimeters [it's] 8 percent body fat. ... I'm at 9 percent body fat. And, that's not eight."

With center Shaquille O'Neal (knee surgery), forward Wayne Simien (recovering from salmonella poisoning) and guard Dwyane Wade (sprained wrist) all expected to miss Wednesday's game with injuries, the absence of Walker and Posey means the Heat will dress only 10 players against the Clippers.

Posey is averaging 7.3 points and 4.6 rebounds this season, while Walker is averaging 7.9 points and 4.1 rebounds on 40 percent shooting.

[Kori Ellis]

This is just weird to me, if Posey's just getting deactivated because he's 9% body fat not 8%. So what happens if he gets to 8.9 but then a few days later he's 9.1? Deactivated again?

I don't buy this weirdness.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Apparently, their next "deadline" is Jan 15. If they don't make that, they're getting suspended.

[Kori Ellis]

Apparently, their next "deadline" is Jan 15. If they don't make that, they're getting suspended.

Yeah I know. It's just weird to me. So if they fluctuate between 8.9 and 9.1 the rest of the year, will they just keep getting suspended and unsuspended all season? It's lame.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Yeah I know. It's just weird to me. So if they fluctuate between 8.9 and 9.1 the rest of the year, will they just keep getting suspended and unsuspended all season? It's lame.

Fine with me, I'm sure the Knicks would just love to have Miami's ninth spot anyway.

[Pistons < Spurs]

What is Shaq's body fat % supposed to be at? And would he get deactivated if he's over the goal number? of course not....


This is just weird to me, if Posey's just getting deactivated because he's 9% body fat not 8%. So what happens if he gets to 8.9 but then a few days later he's 9.1? Deactivated again?

as I read it, he needs to be under 8.0

8.9 would still be over the limit, therefore another deactivation.

[dave]

haha, stupid losers
wow, i just realized they're only half a game ahead of the raps, and one game ahead of the knicks

[Kori Ellis]

What is Shaq's body fat % supposed to be at? And would he get deactivated if he's over the goal number? of course not....



as I read it, he needs to be under 8.0

8.9 would still be over the limit, therefore another deactivation.

Yeah I didn't know whether he had to be in the 8's or get below 8. Either way, you get my point. It's a weird thing.

What's your guess on Shaq's % currently?

[Fillmoe]

the heat wont make the playoffs.... ive been saying it since before the season started

[Pistons < Spurs]

What's your guess on Shaq's % currently?


LMAO! I wouldn't even want to guess! With all the time off he's had since winning a ring ... but I do have to say that he wasn'y any where near a chubby as I expected at the beginning of the season.

[Nahtanoj]

Last year's Finals officiating was despicable.. Heat are getting what they deserve, although the refs still let Wade spin, travel, palm the ball and charge at any defender of his choice, the Heat aren't getting anywhere with this squad and Riles know it. Sort of wished he had Stan Van Gundy back huh? Now that Riles has decided to tank the season.

[Taco]

What's up with the Heat?

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[PaceMonster]

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What a bunch a fucking bums you Heat haters are....the only reason why Miami even made the fuckin playoffs last year was because of Shaq...he has played 2 games this season....how the fuck do you expect them to be playing playoff basketball.....Miami gave up Butler, AND Odom for this guy so they obviously know how much he means to this team....just when Miami was ready to take the next step and go on a winning streak after the LA game, Wade got injured....now they've been playing without Wade, Shaq and for some games Posey, and Walker....how do you expect them to win like this...i guarantee Miami WILL make the playoffs and get to the ECF....from then on its to whoever wants it more....and Fillmoe, you havent beat the Heat in about 3 years or so, i wouldnt talk shit if i were you.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Yeah I didn't know whether he had to be in the 8's or get below 8. Either way, you get my point. It's a weird thing.

What's your guess on Shaq's % currently?

Eight percent.

Of gravy.

[Texas_Ranger]

What a bunch a fucking bums you Heat haters are....the only reason why Miami even made the fuckin playoffs last year was because of Shaq...he has played 2 games this season....how the fuck do you expect them to be playing playoff basketball.....Miami gave up Butler, AND Odom for this guy so they obviously know how much he means to this team....just when Miami was ready to take the next step and go on a winning streak after the LA game, Wade got injured....now they've been playing without Wade, Shaq and for some games Posey, and Walker....how do you expect them to win like this...i guarantee Miami WILL make the playoffs and get to the ECF....from then on its to whoever wants it more....and Fillmoe, you havent beat the Heat in about 3 years or so, i wouldnt talk shit if i were you.

That is rigt, but O'Neal is an old guy and he would not make a big difference to the team.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

That is rigt, but O'Neal is an old guy and he would not make a big difference to the team.

Shaq may be old, he may not be the player he was six years ago, but he would make a huge difference to the Heat.

Forget for a moment Shaq's possible numbers (I would say at least 12/8) when he comes back, but the attention you have to pay to Shaq in the lane would change your defense enough to still allow Dwyane Wade to be the man and free up your slashers and shooters.

While it may not be the best group around, it might just be enough in the East to make some noise.

[Marklar MM]

Some Wade Highlights
...

[Borosai]

Didn't Riley quit on the Heat before when they started sucking hairy balls? So now that they suck once again, he's off for some surgery/vacation/season tanking/higher pick? That's weak sauce.

[dave]

if this isnt palming, i dont know what is

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5311/dwadepalmkd8.jpg

[1Parker1]

Posey said his deactivation stemmed from a rule the Heat has about body fat. He said his body fat is 9 percent, but Riley wanted it to be 8 percent.

:wtf No way Shaq has kept up his end....

[HeatOwnzNba]

You fat, diabetic texans have a lot of nerve for criticizing Shaq's
weight. Isn't TexASS considered the fatest state in the country?

[dave]

You fat, diabetic texans have a lot of nerve for criticizing Shaq's
weight. Isn't TexASS considered the fatest state in the country?

no u idiot, Mississippi is


25 FITTEST:
1. Baltimore (25*)
2. Honolulu (2)
3. Virginia Beach (12)
4. Tucson (8)
5. Milwaukee (15)
6. Colorado Springs (3)
7. San Francisco (4)
8. Seattle (1)
9. Louisville-Jefferson, Ky. (not ranked)
10. Boston (11)
11. Sacramento (7)
12. Nashville-Davidson, Tenn. (25)
13. Albuquerque (10)
14. Tulsa (22*)
15. Phoenix (12*)
16. Atlanta (23*)
17. Portland, Ore. (6)
18. Washington (23)
19. Oakland (20)
20. Denver (5)
21. Minneapolis (13)
22. Arlington, Texas (22)
23. Austin (19)
24. Jacksonville (18)
25. Omaha (16)

25 FATTEST:
1. Chicago (5)
2. Las Vegas (9)
3. Los Angeles (21*)
4. Dallas (6)
5. Houston (1)
6. Memphis (4)
7. Long Beach, Calif. (20)
8. El Paso (11)
9. Kansas City, Mo. (18)
10. Mesa, Ariz. (15)
11. Indianapolis (13)
12. San Antonio (10)
13. Fort Worth (14)
14. Miami (19)
15. Detroit (3)
16. Columbus, Ohio (16)
17. Oklahoma City (21)
18. Cleveland (24*)
19. Wichita (17)
20. Charlotte (24)
21. San Diego (9*)
22. Fresno (14*)
23. Philadelphia (2)
24. San Jose, Calif. (17*)
25. New York (8)

[stevallica]

im proud to see dallas up there at number 4. good work guys.

[stevallica]

lets get back on subject. miami sucks.

[HeatOwnzNba]

lets get back on subject. miami sucks.

And yet they're still good enough to win four straight against
the Mavs...

[Pistons < Spurs]

And yet they're still good enough to win four straight against
the Mavs...

That depends on whether or not Wade brings his Refs' to the game.

[dirk4mvp]

And yet they're still good enough to win four straight against
the Mavs...


Could they do it now?

[Taco]

no u idiot, Mississippi is


25 FATTEST:
1. Chicago (5)
2. Las Vegas (9)
3. Los Angeles (21*)
4. Dallas (6)
5. Houston (1)
6. Memphis (4)
7. Long Beach, Calif. (20)
8. El Paso (11)
9. Kansas City, Mo. (18)
10. Mesa, Ariz. (15)
11. Indianapolis (13)
12. San Antonio (10)
13. Fort Worth (14)
14. Miami (19)
15. Detroit (3)
16. Columbus, Ohio (16)
17. Oklahoma City (21)
18. Cleveland (24*)
19. Wichita (17)
20. Charlotte (24)
21. San Diego (9*)
22. Fresno (14*)
23. Philadelphia (2)
24. San Jose, Calif. (17*)
25. New York (8)


Wow Dallas and LA are fatter than SA? :hungry:

I guess there's only so much lipo can do :spin

[2Cleva]

The Day After shed additional light on the Wednesday's Heat chaos.

Revelation: Speaking on his weekly radio show on WQAM, coach Pat Riley said of his decision to leave the team to address knee and hip problems, "If we were 25-2, would I have done it? Probably not."

Reality: So much for the record not impacting the decision. The translation is the mental anguish added to the physical pain. This is not a man who tolerates losing.

Revelation: On that same radio interview, Riley said of his players, "It's not my job to make them happy, it's their job to make me happy."

Reality: No, this doesn't lend credence to the variety of media reports that said Riley lost his players. It just means, that after two seasons under Riley Rule, they learned how rigid and unbending his rules can be.

Revelation: Riley also addressed the overall conditioning of his team. "They simply don't want to work, they don't want to work right now. To me, it's disgraceful. And from that standpoint, that's what I've been dealing with, and that's what I'm trying to eradicate."

Reality: Riley got away from being Riley and his team paid the price. Had Riley held those three-hour practices instead of going easy on his veterans, conditioning never would have been a concern. He got soft; his team got soft.

Revelation: General Manager Randy Pfund was spotted Wednesday watching the pregame workout of Clippers forward Corey Maggette, who has been the subject of trade speculation.

Reality: Yes, a trade could be coming. But, again, we ask how exactly you showcase a player by putting him on the inactive/out-of-shape list.

Revelation: Dwyane Wade against watched practice wearing a leather splint.

Reality: His Dec. 27 injury in Chicago was serious, even if it's continuing to be termed a mere sprained right wrist.

Revelation: Interim coach Ron Rothstein said at Thursday's practice,

"The fact is that Pat is probably coming back."

Reality: Probably. Not everyone on Riley's staff is certain of that.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2007/01/closer_to_the_t.html

[2Cleva]

Riley bailed in a bitch move and Wade is probably out for a while.

[HeatOwnzNba]

Wow Dallas and LA are fatter than SA? :hungry:

I guess there's only so much lipo can do :spin

That's cuz there's only like five people in San Antonio.

[Trainwreck2100]

That's cuz there's only like five people in San Antonio.


population smack only works when you are not top 10 in population

[himat]

Miami will make the playoffs because the rest of the East sucks too. If they were in the West they would be in panick mode right now.

I wouldn't mind the Pistons beating the Heat in the first round, but I hope it doesn't happen. Wade and Shaq could get hot, and even if they lose the series they would wear you down. It happened in 05 and the Spurs took full advantage and made the Pistons look horrible the first 2 games.

I'm hoping Pistons get an easy road to the Finals and have all the energy to finish the team coming out of the West.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

The Heat are the worst team to ever win it all they are The big Fluke.

[HeatOwnzNba]

The Heat are the worst team to ever win it all they are The big Fluke.

You are so gonna be eating those words at the end of the season. However,
you'll have to remove that big cock from your mouth first.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

You are so gonna be eating those words at the end of the season. However,
you'll have to remove that big cock from your mouth first.

What are you 14 why can't you post without some dick ref. Clearly you team is a fluke and falling apart you fail to see this don't you? :lol

[HeatOwnzNba]

What are you 14 why can't you post without some dick ref. Clearly you team is a fluke and falling apart you fail to see this don't you? :lol

They aren't falling apart little girl, they're just not healthy at the moment.
Once they get healthy, they'll do to the pistons what they did last year.

[The_Game]

And yet they're still good enough to win four straight against
the Mavs...

That was last year.

This year is a different story. Mavs are rolling while the Heat are old and didn't improve their team in the summer. Dallas and most other teams did.

thats the difference