(_put out the fire!_)

[The Pied Piper]

for the love of all that is holy please put an end to this madness that has been going on since xmas of 06!

put that shit out!

[Sunshine]

wtf?

my picture won't show up

[Sunshine]

YouTube even has footage of the damn thing. Heh.

Mulch Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOndDopufCI&mode=related&search=)

[The Pied Piper]

put out the fucking fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Pied Piper]

Put It Out Now Damnit

[CosmicCowboy]

http://www.funkysmell.com/Comics/fsc29_smokey_the_bear.jpg

[Shelly]

I wonder how many parents transferred their kids out of O'Connor because of it. It said in the paper this morning that they could.

[The Pied Piper]

put

The

Fucking

Fire

Out

I
Am
Sick
And
Damn
Tired
Of
Hearing
About
It
And
I
Want
It
Out
Now

People
Are
Suffering Because Of This

Put It Out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sunshine]

I saw that on the news last night as well Shelly and wondered the same thing.

[Shelly]

My next door neighbor's kids are still going!

[midgetonadonkey]

There's a fire?

[Sunshine]

My next door neighbor's kids are still going!

I wouldn't think many kids would want to go to a different school, unless they had friends in a certain school and could get transferred there. I'd think they'd be more likely to say "we shouldn't have to go to school until the fire is out!" :lol

[1369]

What do want to bet that construction boy's (Zumwalt?) insurance company probably isn't going to renew him.

[Shelly]

I wouldn't think many kids would want to go to a different school, unless they had friends in a certain school and could get transferred there. I'd think they'd be more likely to say "we shouldn't have to go to school until the fire is out!" :lol


Heavens No! OC kids wouldn't be caught dead at Marshall! :lol

btw, why does this guy have a mulch pile like this anyway?

[1369]

Heavens No! OC kids wouldn't be caught dead at Marshall! :lol

btw, why does this guy have a mulch pile like this anyway?

Near as I can tell, he's in the site prep business, so instead of having to pay to haul off the brush, he's got the room to stockpile it on his place, let it dry, and then grind it up periodically to sell to folks in the mulch trade.

Pretty much free money until the pile burns, folks gripe about their health, counties pay for relocation hotel rooms and the laywers come knocking.

[Shelly]

I may have to take a field trip and check it out in person.

[The Pied Piper]

I want the fire out now.

Someone do something.

This shit is not funny.

Its bullshit.

Kori, you run this site.

You work for the man, youre a political bully

Get on woai and do a roundtable discussing the bullshit going on and how the fucking fire departments are nothing more than glorified pussies if they do not put this god damned fucking fire out now.

do it

for the love of all that is holy this shit is ruining the air!

FIX THIS!

[Shelly]

Tonto needs to do a rain dance.

[midgetonadonkey]

I don't want my air ruined.

[The Pied Piper]

I am sick of this

sick and tired of all this smoke

[1369]

I am sick of this

sick and tired of all this smoke

I can tell you with 100% certainty that The Pied Piper is NOT one of Mouse's pseudonyms.

[Shelly]

Maybe the Pied Piper can lead the fire to water like he did with the rats???

[The Pied Piper]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that The Pied Piper is NOT one of Mouse's pseudonyms.
dont start using the key words with me

i just dont want any more smoke from this fire


THIS IS RIDICULOUS!


FIX IT KORI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[1369]

What makes a Piper, Pied, anyway?

[Shelly]

And what's the reason for them not putting out the fire again?

I wasn't here when this all started.

And I can really smell it now.

[The Pied Piper]

Put the fire out!

[1369]

And what's the reason for them not putting out the fire again?

I wasn't here when this all started.

And I can really smell it now.

Last I heard is it would take over 1,000,000 gallons of water and a few months to put it out. Bexar Met/SAWS (Don't know who has control of the water out there) don't know if they con supply that volume and still supply customers, so they decided to let it burn itself out.

[The Pied Piper]

http://www.bumblebuns.com/images/Fire%20Truck%20L.jpg

[The Pied Piper]

Bullshit

I am going to beat the shit out of someone if they dont put the fire out

[Sunshine]

I may have to take a field trip and check it out in person.


Mulch fire GTG!!!

[Shelly]

Last I heard is it would take over 1,000,000 gallons of water and a few months to put it out. Bexar Met/SAWS (Don't know who has control of the water out there) don't know if they con supply that volume and still supply customers, so they decided to let it burn itself out.

Thanks...I'm pretty sure Helotes is SAWS.

[Kori Ellis]

dont start using the key words with me

i just dont want any more smoke from this fire


THIS IS RIDICULOUS!


FIX IT KORI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So should I just go up the street to Helotes with my garden hose and start working on it?

How long do you think it will take me to put out if I start now?
:)

[midgetonadonkey]

So should I just go up the street to Helotes with my garden hose and start working on it?

How long do you think it will take me to put out if I start now?
:)

7 hours

[ShoogarBear]

The School!
The School!
The School is on fire!
We don't need no classes . . .

[Taco]

Mulch fire GTG!!!

Let's all go take a Wizz on the fire!!!!

That would put it out

[Shelly]

Mulch fire GTG!!!

:lol

[ShoogarBear]

Last I heard is it would take over 1,000,000 gallons of water and a few months to put it out. Bexar Met/SAWS (Don't know who has control of the water out there) don't know if they con supply that volume and still supply customers, so they decided to let it burn itself out.It's going to take a few months to put it out with water, so they figure it won't take as long if the don't use water? :spin

[Shelly]

So should I just go up the street to Helotes with my garden hose and start working on it?

How long do you think it will take me to put out if I start now?
:)


We can start in your neighborhood. We'll pass buckets of water all the way to the fire!

http://lnt.smugmug.com/photos/71583288-M.jpg

[CosmicCowboy]

They should just throw a oysterbake/NIOSA type party there and not rent any chem-cans. We could do our civic duty and slam beerz and piss the fire out.

[Sunshine]

They should just throw a oysterbake/NIOSA type party there and not rent any chem-cans. We could do our civic duty and slam beerz and piss the fire out.


They can bake the oysters in the burning mulch pile.

[The Pied Piper]

Kori, skip the Spurs game tonight.

There shouldn't even be a game played if people are getting health problems.

If the Spurs had any kind of intergrity they would pay the money from their rich ass salaries to get water, extra firemen, etc whatever it takes to get this fire out!

I am serious!

This is bullshit.

Playing meaningless sports games while people get sicker and sicker from a fire that can be put out but people are just too lazy/un-willing/uncaring etc to do it!

Fix this!

Please, Kori, we have faith in you.

Make this happen please.

[1369]

They should just throw a oysterbake/NIOSA type party there and not rent any chem-cans. We could do our civic duty and slam beerz and piss the fire out.

And we could get Thin Lizzy to play as well!

Viva La Semana!

[MannyIsGod]

I think the Piper is Ryan, and if so its by far his most annoying incarnation.

[Taco]

:spin

[Sunshine]

:spin


Great minds!

[Taco]

12 POST'S IN THIS THREAD ALONE FOR The Pied Piper

[sprint to sprint]

If your gonna call me out, do it after 7pm.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I think the Piper is Ryan, and if so its by far his most annoying incarnation.

It is.

Who else calls Kori, "Koko," and me "JBL"?

[bigzak25]

mouse can put it out...he can do anything for an 18 pack. don't you agree JBL? what say you Koko?

[01Snake]

How long til' a class action lawsuit is filed?

[DarkReign]

Am I to understand that HUGE pile of mulch caught fire (judging by the YouTube link) and that said fire still burns today?

How long has it been burning?

[SpursWoman]

Since Christmas day ... it's like 400ft long X 80ft high or some crazy shit like that. Apparently it would burn for a year if left untended. :wow

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

In the dry summer months half the forests in the state of New Mexico seem to catch on fire. The mountains here block the smoke from blowing out, so my city is covered in a brown haze every year during the fire season.

And you know what? WE ENJOY IT!!






Quit being such pussies and go roast some marshmellows or something.

[1369]

In the dry summer months half the forests in the state of New Mexico seem to catch on fire. The mountains here block the smoke from blowing out, so my city is covered in a brown haze every year during the fire season.

And you know what? WE ENJOY IT!!






Quit being such pussies and go roast some marshmellows or something.

Wear onions on your belts too?

[AlamoSpursFan]

I smelled it in Boerne this morning. Took me a few seconds of wondering WTF that smell was before it dawned on me.

[1369]

With the wind supposedly blowing out of the north tomorrow, my running buddy at Bandera/1604 is going to be hating life.

[ShoogarBear]

Hot. Flat. Mulchy.

[Shelly]

With the wind supposedly blowing out of the north tomorrow, my running buddy at Bandera/1604 is going to be hating life.

Me too.

[Kori Ellis]

Shelly, you and I live close enough to it that we should get on the lawsuit action if there is any. :)

Seriously, I went out just now around Bandera/1604 and it wasn't very bad. I had to breathe really deep before I noticed it. So it's weird that Stone Oak-ers can smell it so strong.

But people from Stone Oak bitch about everything :spin

[johnsmith]

But people from Stone Oak bitch about everything :spin

Yeah, unlike those southsiders. :rolleyes

[BigZak]

But people from Stone Oak bitch about everything :spin


RACK that shit. :smokin

[SpursWoman]

Yeah, unlike those southsiders. :rolleyes


RACK that shit. :smokin








:lol

[1369]

But people from Stone Oak bitch about everything :spin

Yea, well, our gripe quota is directly proportional to our property values compared to the rest of the city.

[MannyIsGod]

Fucking white people. Nut up. The Spurs are playing the Mavericks. Fuck the fire.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Wear onions on your belts too?

If necessary.


Then there were those six years that I walked to my high school everyday. It was six miles, uphill in each direction. My buddy, little Billy McCoy, didn't have any legs so I'd carry him to school in my backpack.

The smoke never bothered me.

Then again I'm a freaking stud.

[SpursWoman]

Then again I'm a freaking stud.




Yes, yes you are.



*swoons*

[Shelly]

Shelly, you and I live close enough to it that we should get on the lawsuit action if there is any. :)

Seriously, I went out just now around Bandera/1604 and it wasn't very bad. I had to breathe really deep before I noticed it. So it's weird that Stone Oak-ers can smell it so strong.

But people from Stone Oak bitch about everything :spin

:lol Helotes has enough problems! I think I've heard more about Helotes in the past year than in the 10 years I lived here.

Bob said he could really smell it when he got on the freeway this morning.

I may have to take my walks with a gas mask from now on.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Yes, yes you are.



*swoons*


Thank you gorgeous!



My two favorite ladies posted right after I did. Takes me back to the pre-devil days when the three of us would partake in a thoroughly enjoyable Chopper Sandwich.





I miss those days. :cry

[SpursWoman]

A sammich, you say? :angel

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, unlike those southsiders. :rolleyes

If you didn't get it, it was a joke because of the whole HUD housing thing. So keep your frickin' rolling eyes to yourself.

[Shelly]

i had to wait for SW to post, so it was another chopper sammich....

[Kori Ellis]

:lol Helotes has enough problems! I think I've heard more about Helotes in the past year than in the 10 years I lived here.

Bob said he could really smell it when he got on the freeway this morning.

I may have to take my walks with a gas mask from now on.

Are you guys closer to Braun or Bandera?

[johnsmith]

If you didn't get it, it was a joke because of the whole HUD housing thing. So keep your frickin' rolling eyes to yourself.

:rolleyes

[ChumpDumper]

I bet the mulch can be traced back to poor people.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

i had to wait for SW to post, so it was another chopper sammich....

Kori got in right between you and SW.

I think I had a dream about that once.

Now I'm starting to swoon.

[01Snake]

I bet the mulch can be traced back to poor people.

or George Bush.

[johnsmith]

or George Bush.

:lol :lol

[KEDA]

yeah, fuck the Stone Oakers!!!


(I say this because I now work over at Walzem & 35)

[johnsmith]

yeah, fuck the Stone Oakers!!!


(I say this because I now work over at Walzem & 35)


How does where you work correlate with who you like and dislike?

[Kori Ellis]

How does where you work correlate with who you like and dislike?

He's making a joke because he used to work at the Stone Oak location.

[Kori Ellis]

So seriously, did they send the O'Connor kids home?
Would you make your kids go to school if they went there?

[KEDA]

I live just north of Stone Oak, and I used to work there.

oh, and go blow a monkey

[KEDA]

My cousin goes to O'connor and she is going to transfer.

she has a bad respitory problem so it really isnt by choice

[Kori Ellis]

They say it's going to take 45 days or so (from the day it started) to put it out.

That's a hell of a long time for people to deal with it.

[johnsmith]

I live just north of Stone Oak, and I used to work there.

oh, and go blow a monkey


Hey, I was just asking. Not everyone that posts here knows the personal lives of everyone else.

[3rdCoast]

They say it's going to take 45 days or so (from the day it started) to put it out.

That's a hell of a long time for people to deal with it.

Kori, this isnt funny.

You have clout.

Make something happen.

[KEDA]

looks like derrty therrdy forgot to change usernames.

[3rdCoast]

looks like derrty therrdy forgot to change usernames.
nope
i just realized i was unbanned

[3rdCoast]

The Pied Piper will be back soon enough though

[3rdCoast]

The Pied Piper will be back soon enough though
Like when the fire is out.

[Kori Ellis]

nope
i just realized i was unbanned

You've been unbanned for a long time.

[pseudofan]

I work in the LaCantera area and it smells, usually worse after the rain when it begins to smolder. I hate driving through that smell every day, I couldn't imagine living there or going to school there all day. I wouldn't let my kids stay home, they'd have to go to school but I'd transfer them somewhere else.

What's worse than driving through it? Driving through it behind an old smoking pickup truck!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ugh! It was grosss!

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Did Angel guess 3rd Coast?


I was sure it was PDBM.

[SpursWoman]

I was sure it was PDBM.



No, 3rdCoast is pretty harsh ... PDBM is pretty ... goofy. It's easy to tell them apart. :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

LMAO at stone oakers first they had that SAHA scare and now this.

[Shelly]

Are you guys closer to Braun or Bandera?

It's probably the same distance to both.

[RashoFan]

Get on woai and do a roundtable discussing the bullshit going on and how the fucking fire departments are nothing more than glorified pussies if they do not put this god damned fucking fire out now.

[RashoFan]

Get on woai and do a roundtable discussing the bullshit going on and how the fucking fire departments are nothing more than glorified pussies if they do not put this god damned fucking fire out now.

:flipoff :loser
I don't understand why you think they are pussies? Here is some insight....

Most of those guys in the FD are volunteers, though HFD has paid staff that works a 24/48 shift. We volunteer what time we have, we have jobs(sometimes 2 or 3 jobs) we have families, we go to school to increase our knowledge to be a better "Public Servant".
We call in Mutual Aid from neighbouring departments, who also have to keep adequate coverage for their area. Sometimes those resources are limited due to we have jobs, families, school.
A large mulch fire is ALOT of work to put out. Try working in turnout gear for 4,5, 6 hours at a time. We are humping hoses around, digging, filling trucks up and/or shuttling water to the scene. We do all that and then we have to go to our jobs. Sometimes it is better to let the fire burn up its fuel.
Come up to a Volunteer FD sometime and we will show you how much work it really is to be a (CARRER/VOLUNTEER) FIREFIGHTER.

I hope you have been enlightened!

[RashoFan]

oops.I didn't mean to post that twice.

[Pyromaniac]

Let it burn!!!

[timvp]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a good thing?

Smells like an BBQ with a tad too much lighter fluid.

Not bad.

:smokin

[Shelly]

I didn't smell it this morning on my walk, but I just went outside to drop of some mail and I can really smell it now.

BBQ, my ass! It smells like burning manure. Either that, or I'm getting a whiff of O'Connor's AG. program.

[Taco]

I was smelling it yesterday when i was cutting my lawn (seaworld area)

[Kori Ellis]

I didn't smell it this morning on my walk, but I just went outside to drop of some mail and I can really smell it now.

BBQ, my ass! It smells like burning manure. Either that, or I'm getting a whiff of O'Connor's AG. program.

:lol

Actually at our house it does smell like a giant BBQ with extra extra lighter fluid. It has been like this since yesterday midday. So keep the manure smell at your house! Thanks.

[Shelly]

It doesn't smell anymore. Did you put out the fire after all???

[Kori Ellis]

It doesn't smell anymore. Did you put out the fire after all???


I've been trying to put it out using my all-world powers but I don't think I succeeded yet. Maybe I just switched the wind out of your neighborhood.

[Shelly]

I've been trying to put it out using my all-world powers but I don't think I succeeded yet. Maybe I just switched the wind out of your neighborhood.

We thank you!!!

:worthy:

BTW, I went to *coughwalmartcough* today! Now I must go and spend at least $50 at Target for defecting.

[Mark in Austin]

I bet the mulch can be traced back to poor people.

Or Wal-Mart.

[RashoFan]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a good thing?

Smells like an BBQ with a tad too much lighter fluid.

Not bad.

:smokin
I am a FF...the smell of smoke turns me on....go figure!

[AlamoSpursFan]

I am a FF...the smell of smoke turns me on....go figure!

*mental note* Light something on fire at the next GTG...

:lol

[RashoFan]

That or have me out next to the BBQ when we are hanging out at Kori and timvp's house...

[boutons_]

"Light something on fire at the next GTG"

Dab some of this behind your ears.


http://www.oklahoma-outlet.com/images/products/spc_heinz_hickory_smoke_bbq_sauce.jpg

[jcrod]

wow, I started to smell it tonight out here by Callahan and 410.

[Shelly]

It is really bad this morning. I was going to go for a walk, but I can't stomach the smell. It's bad enough I have to smell it inside my house.

[spurster]

What do want to bet that construction boy's (Zumwalt?) insurance company probably isn't going to renew him.
You should add to your bet that the construction company is going to be sued out of existence.

Having a pile this big is really stupid. I know that arson has been claimed, but I would bet spontaneous combustion.

[CrazyOne]

Our new home is off Kyle Seale... I was going to go jogging this morning, but I may have to unearth the treadmill instead. Allergies are bad enough without breathing visible air.

[Shelly]

My friend said she was still going to walk. I don't know how she could stand it. I noticed that patrols at son #2's school weren't out this morning and neither were the teachers. This is the worst it's been for me.

[Jimcs50]

My friend said she was still going to walk. I don't know how she could stand it. I noticed that patrols at son #2's school weren't out this morning and neither were the teachers. This is the worst it's been for me.


You need to move away from that flat, dusty, smokey city Shelly.

[Shelly]

You need to move away from that flat, dusty, smokey city Shelly.

Yes, I do! But I'm stuck here :(

[Shelly]

:worthy: to the south wind!!!

[TDMVPDPOY]

so u clowns are also havin bushfire season, same down under :( fuckn ppl lit them up and run off, and backburning is a bitch if the CFA do it wrong....

[101A]

I grew up 1/4 mile from that sucker; watched it grow for years; flying back to Texas this weekend (mom still lives there) - interested to check it out.

P.S. Zumwalt's good people

[boutons_]

Does Zumwalt sell that mulch?
If not, what does he do with it?

[CubanMustGo]

My friend said she was still going to walk. I don't know how she could stand it. I noticed that patrols at son #2's school weren't out this morning and neither were the teachers. This is the worst it's been for me.

This is a job for ...

http://www.self-resq.co.uk/smokehood_images/Home/smokehood_image.jpg

[101A]

Does Zumwalt sell that mulch?
If not, what does he do with it?


Doesn't sell it, just collects it; the pile started in earnest after the big floods 7-9 years ago, as I remember it.

I always figured he was just going to let it compost; nobody complained because the residents there were happy to be shielded at night from the lights of O'Connor.

[Mijo]

He apparently has a permit to store the mulch on his property but I have no idea why. It's been there for at least 15 years or so. He doesn't run a site clearing company as far as I know. Him and his son operate a road paving company that do work primarily for TxDot.

[boutons_]

"Doesn't sell it, just collects it;"

If I were facing his $1M bill/fine, I'd sure organize real quick a "fire sale" :)

[Mijo]

P.S. Zumwalt's good people Yes they are.

[Hank Hill]

We’ll be right over!
Remember Dale, Bill, Boomhauer and myself are volunteer fireman in Arlen

[Kori Ellis]

School District To Close Schools Due to Compost Firefighting
Last Update: 1/11/2007 11:56:08 AM

Posted By: Vickie Jean Summers

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=02887c13-a443-4a2b-9f77-5370a6a39788

On Tuesday, January 16th, the North Side School District is closing O'Connor High School, Helotes Elementary and Krueger Elementary because of anticipated smoke from the firefighting efforts involved in the compost fire burning near Helotes.
The contractor hired by the state, Oil Mop, is currently staging and preparing to put out the fire. On Saturday, the contractor will begin the actual firefighting. It's expected that the smoke will be the worst on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. Schools will already be closed on Monday for the Martin Luther King holiday.

There are currently no shelters set up because officials do not think it's necessary with the current shift of the winds. However the Red Cross will set up shelters, if needed.

Northside School District officials are monitoring the situation and will be determining if any other schools will need to be closed, or if these closures need to extend beyond Tuesday.

[Shelly]

Kori, this weekend will be brutal for us.

I saw on the news that if they expand it to a 3 mile radius, it will affect my youngest's school, but no my oldest's. And they're right by each other!

[boutons_]

Sounds like "good people" Zumwalt ain't so good after all, and is at risk of getting mulched.

===============

Mulch-pile owner faces 13 counts

Web Posted: 01/27/2007 12:57 AM CST

Jerry Needham
Express-News

The state's environmental agency has cited the owner of the burning mulch pile in Helotes on 13 alleged violations related to the heap, the subsequent fire and efforts to fight it.

Meanwhile, officials late Friday agreed on a plan to deal with the smoldering pile, estimated at 700 feet long, 250 feet wide and 80 feet tall.

The plan — unveiled Thursday — calls for a contractor to start building a clay-lined quench pit and sluice soon, Texas Commission on Environmental Quality spokesman Terry Clawson said.

The burning material will be pulled into the pit, where it will be doused and the firefighting water captured, he said, adding that plans call for the fire to be out by the end of February.

As for the allegations TCEQ made against Henry Zumwalt Recycling, they include

creating a nuisance condition;

storing too much material;

not having permits to operate a composting operation or to store compost; unauthorized burning of waste;

three counts of air pollution;

and no permit to discharge wastewater that subsequently contaminated two Edwards Aquifer wells.

A certified letter detailing the allegations was mailed to the recycling company's owner, Henry Zumwalt, on Tuesday, and officials released it Friday after confirming he had received it.

Agency officials wouldn't elaborate on the allegations, but Clawson said each violation is punishable by a penalty of up to $10,000 per day.

The allegations apparently stemmed from an investigation that started early last year. The letter to Zumwalt said the agency never received adequate responses to a May 2006 letter about the amount of material the facility was recycling.

One of the allegations says the facility wasn't supposed to have more than 75,000 cubic yards of material on site, but Zumwalt estimated 171,000 cubic yards were there.

That would be a violation of the facility's bond posted with the agency to ensure proper closure of the facility in case of bankruptcy.

Another claim states Zumwalt failed to ensure all recyclable materials were properly covered, contained or managed to protect them from degradation, contamination or loss of value.

Zumwalt attorney David Barton called the allegations "an outrage."

"It's purely retribution against him for filing a temporary restraining order and for being vocal about how bad this whole thing is being run," he said. "They know they aren't going to collect on this because of the things that have gone wrong. They know that these allegations are not going to get them any closer to that. It's just retribution."

When the state agency on Jan. 9 halted Zumwalt's 10-day effort to put out the fire with his own crews and equipment and brought in its own contractor for $1.75 million, Zumwalt filed a lawsuit.

His aim was to gain access to the rest of the property, to keep the state from using chemicals on the fire without Edwards Aquifer Authority approval and to try to keep TCEQ from charging him for the state's efforts, Barton said.

In contrast to Zumwalt's use of minimal water, the state contractor began dousing the fire with massive amounts of water and, less than a week later, two Edwards Aquifer wells began to show contamination with fire residues, prompting a halt to firefighting efforts Jan. 18.

Officials with the state environmental agency say they commonly seek reimbursement from property owners for addressing environmental problems on their land.

But Zumwalt's attorneys say the fire apparently was started by an arsonist and that, when no public agencies would assist, he was attempting to extinguish it with his own resources when the state forcibly intervened.

Although the facility is registered with TCEQ as a recycling facility, the agency alleged it violated elements of the state's landfill rules and that it also should have registered as a composting facility.

"He used the word compost in a conversation probably," Barton said. "But they know, or should know if they'd read their own rules, that this does not qualify as a composting operation."

"The 13th charge they've got in there is that he failed to prevent the unauthorized discharge of wastewater from his property," Barton said. "They won't even let him on the site. The wells that were fouled were fouled because of the water being put on there by Oil Mop (the contractor)."
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So, life in San Antonio news isn't just murders and car wrecks, isn't so boring after all! :lol

Will they ever catch the arsonists who broke in and started the fire?

Prime suspects: beered-up jackass males, 18 - 25 years old. :lol

[midgetonadonkey]

I can smell the fucking smoke here in the library and it's making me fucking sick. I'm not used to this contaminated air. I need to get back to the Southeast Side quick.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I can smell the fucking smoke here in the library and it's making me fucking sick. I'm not used to this contaminated air. I need to get back to the Southeast Side quick.

Does anybody need further proof that Mexicans shouldn't be in libraries?

[Shelly]

We drove by the mulch fire yesterday. That thing is becoming a national landmark. Eveybody slowed down to gawk at it.

My husband joke that they should have a 'Scenic View' sign by it. There were cows happily grazing right next to it, and would have made the perfect picture.

[Kori Ellis]

I had to bump this thread because I'm sick of this frickin mulch fire.

Now they aren't tearing it apart with bulldozers and SAWS refused to let them use water because they fear for the freakin' aquifer. BEXAR Met or someone else wanted to let them use their water but SAWS put a restraining order against that and got the City Council to back them up.

So basically at this point, they are doing nothing, I believe. (If anyone knows more, please tell me).

Well for the last week, the mulch fire smell at our house has gotten stronger (we live a few miles from it). And the other night, we slept with our bedroom window open and now I'm dying. My eyes swelled up to the point I couldn't see (I felt like Johnny Blaze), my throat, sinuses, and head are killing me.

I'm not a hypochrondriac and in the beginning I didn't even believe this fire was going to be a huge problem, but at this point - what the hell? Yesterday I took medication (NyQuil/DayQuil etc) to try to ease my sinus pain and help my throat, but to no avail. Today it's the same thing and my head is hurting even worse.

Can someone put out that frickin' fire?

[Shelly]

It was really bad at my house in the beginning of the week, but I haven't smelled it in the past few days. My neighbor down the street said that every time her daughter (who goes to O'C) blows her nose, it's black.

The smell literally makes me feel sick.

I don't think they'll ever put this thing out.

[Kori Ellis]

It was really bad at my house in the beginning of the week, but I haven't smelled it in the past few days. My neighbor down the street said that every time her daughter (who goes to O'C) blows her nose, it's black.

The smell literally makes me feel sick.

I don't think they'll ever put this thing out.

It's really disgusting. I understand about protecting the environment blahblah, but people right now are really sick from this. If it's this bad at my house, or your house .. what about the people right next to it?

Lawsuit :reading


:lol

[CosmicCowboy]

Whoever is running that project must be dumb as a brick. I could have already put that thing out without using water or chemicals if I was in charge.

[Kori Ellis]

Whoever is running that project must be dumb as a brick. I could have already put that thing out without using water or chemicals if I was in charge.
Can you please call them and tell them what to do?

:lol

[Shelly]

No kidding! Nothing is worse than smelling it IN your house when the windows are closed. I was reading an article in the real estate section and they are having a hard time getting people to look at houses there. Iron Horse Canyon has some pretty pricey homes too. I'm sure there will be plenty of lawsuits.

I suprised Jim "Ah fight fer yew" Adler, Wayne Right, Larry Parker (:lol Larry Parker got me 2.1 million...oops wrong state. I still remember that stupid commercial), etc. haven't been running commercials about it yet.

CC, please go volunteer your services. We beg you!

[Kori Ellis]

Larry Parker ( Larry Parker got me 2.1 million...oops wrong state. I still remember that stupid commercial)

:lmao

[Shelly]

:lmao

:lol

I take it you remember it too!

:lol

[ShoogarBear]

Whoever is running that project must be dumb as a brick. I could have already put that thing out without using water or chemicals if I was in charge.Are you bragging about your bladder size?

[CosmicCowboy]

Can you please call them and tell them what to do?

:lol

Easy...they just need to get a few swimming pool gunnite guns and put a thin cap of concrete on the pile...by my calculations it would take less than 2000 yards of gunnite mix to cover the whole pile 1/2" thick. No air, no fire.

[Shelly]

email the mayor of Helotes and tell him that. He's pissed off!

[CosmicCowboy]

hey...theres no smoke at MY house...LOL

[Slomo]

Easy...they just need to get a few swimming pool gunnite guns and put a thin cap of concrete on the pile...by my calculations it would take less than 2000 yards of gunnite mix to cover the whole pile 1/2" thick. No air, no fire.
© CosmicCowboy 2007Here, fixed it for you :tu

[Shelly]

hey...theres no smoke at MY house...LOL

But think of the animals! O'Connor had to move all their animals :depressed

I still want to know who owns the cows that were grazing right next to it. They are ready to eat being smoked and all :p:

Kori, have you driven by that thing? It's huge!

[01Snake]

BEXAR Met or someone else wanted to let them use their water but SAWS put a restraining order against that and got the City Council to back them up.

Fucking BexarMet can go to hell! NOW they have the "extra" water to help with the mulch pile. Where was all this water when we, their customers were put on restrictions WAAAY before any SAWS customers were? I spent $10K on grass for my backyard and about a month later they put us on several weeks of ZERO watering. Way to go assholes! :ihit

[Kori Ellis]

But think of the animals! O'Connor had to move all their animals :depressed

I still want to know who owns the cows that were grazing right next to it. They are ready to eat being smoked and all :p:

Kori, have you driven by that thing? It's huge!

We haven't gone by it. :lol @ the cows

I really feel sorry for the people right near it. I don't get why the city/whatever isn't more urgent about putting it out.

[Shelly]

The weird thing about it is that it just smolders in certain spots. Like there are little puffs of smoke here and there.

Could this be our 3 mile Island????

[CosmicCowboy]

OK, I e-mailed Lyle. My civic duty is done. Time to go to the ranch and bbq a pig and slam a few beers.

[ShoogarBear]

I still want to know who owns the cows that were grazing right next to it. They are ready to eat being smoked and all :p: Mmmm, nothing like compost-flavored beef.

[ShoogarBear]

Time to go to the ranch and bbq a pig and slam a few beers.Just don't get your verbs reversed.

[CosmicCowboy]

Just don't get your verbs reversed.

:lmao

good advice.

[1369]

Just don't get your verbs reversed.

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[Shelly]

Just don't get your verbs reversed.

:lol And drink a toast to that friggin' fire!

[Mark in Austin]

For those of you with indoor eye irritants from the fire, here's a company that makes a damn good airfilter - it actually works for cigarrete smoke - it would probably work for this too.

AllerAir (http://www.allerair.com/air-purifiers/air-purifiers-tobacco-smoke-5000ds.html)

If you google the model/company you'll find resellers that might offer them at a lower price than is listed on the company website.

True story - I thought my downstairs neighbor was smoking toxic cigarettes - it just smelled horrible in my apt. Bit the bullit and bought one of these, and it was so worth the money. The air almost smells sweet coming out of the unit. Turns out the horrible odor was coming from the neighbor below him who was cooking meth in the bathtub.

Anyway, the filter moves the air through three cleaning stages - a large particle pre-filter, a HEPA filter, and then 22 pounds of activated carbon for odor removal.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

:p @ Kori

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It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
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No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it

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CHORUS

We didn't start the fire
But when we are gone
Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on...

[Kori Ellis]

:pctoss

[Kori Ellis]

So we got home from vacation today and the mulch fire smell is stronger than ever. :pctoss

It kills my lungs and sinuses. :sick

[Shelly]

Yes, I really enjoy sleeping with the windows and smelling the stench of smoke at 2 a.m.

It seems really bad during the night and early morning. They say it will be out in 2 weeks. I'm not holding my breath. Or maybe I will still need too :lol

[1369]

Yes, I really enjoy sleeping with the windows and smelling the stench of smoke at 2 a.m.

Ya'll shoulda made sausage and jerky.

[Shelly]

Kori, I heard rumblings that it's supposed to be out by today.

Whatever. I think today is the worst it's ever been. There's a smokey haze through the 'hood.

[Kori Ellis]

Kori, I heard rumblings that it's supposed to be out by today.

Whatever. I think today is the worst it's ever been. There's a smokey haze through the 'hood.

It has been killing me since night before last. I have a major headache today to the point it's almost making me throw up.

They really need to put this crap out. I don't know if the rest of the city realizes how disgusting it is, but it's really bad.

[Shelly]

My friend's daughter said all the classrooms at O'C smell like smoke.

It is disgusting and I'm tired of it.

[Shelly]

Dear Kori,

Thank you for finally putting out 'Mulchie' !!!




:)

[Kori Ellis]

Dear Kori,

Thank you for finally putting out 'Mulchie' !!!




:)

It took me longer than expected, but you are welcome.

Damn that sucked.