It's 62 degrees in NYC

[smeagol]

The forecast for tomorrow shows a high of 66, approximately 35 degrees higher than normal. It’s the first time in 129 years it hasn’t snowed in the month of December. For the next 7 days, the highs will not drop below 45 degrees.

I don’t know if this is global warming-related but it's really strange weather.

[01Snake]

Enjoy. You could be getting hammered like Colorado has been.

[smeagol]

Enjoy. You could be getting hammered like Colorado has been.
I'm not complaining :spin

[DarkReign]

I have lived in Michigan my whole life and have NEVER, ever seen weather like this.

Its like the seasons are more delayed. With the way it is, its going to be snowing in April/May.

It sucks.

[MannyIsGod]

2 main things are causing this.

Lack of polar ice coverage is reducing the amount of "arctic air" in the northern hemisphere. Europe is enjoying a mild winter as well.

Secondly, its an El Nino winter, which usually keeps it much warmer as well. It'll probably continue. Enjoy it.

[samikeyp]

This winter for the most part has reminded me of winter in South Texas. From what everyone has told me, we are going to get hammered in Feb. and March and may even get flurries in May.


Snow on my birthday later this month would be cool.

[xrayzebra]

Ah, Manny. Did you read the sentence: "first time in 129 years it hasn’t snowed in the month of December."

Wonder what caused in 129 years ago. Global warming?

And I ask what is wrong with no snow? I'll bet the people who didn't have to
shovel the white stuff away liked it.

[MannyIsGod]

Ah, Manny. Did you read the sentence: "first time in 129 years it hasn’t snowed in the month of December."

Wonder what caused in 129 years ago. Global warming?

And I ask what is wrong with no snow? I'll bet the people who didn't have to
shovel the white stuff away liked it.Global warming is whats causing the melting of the ice cap which is whats partialy responsible for this warmth.

Whats wrong with no snow? Ask Mike in spring when he's being lifted into the air by giant bugs.

[1369]

Long range forecast has snow in the hill country on the 15th. Hopefully that'll be delayed until the weekend when I'll be up there.

[smeagol]

I stand corrected.

It's 70 degrees in NYC. People are out walking the streets with short sleeves.

I cannot complain.

Give me more of that global warming!

[Clandestino]

Ah, Manny. Did you read the sentence: "first time in 129 years it hasn’t snowed in the month of December."

Wonder what caused in 129 years ago. Global warming?

And I ask what is wrong with no snow? I'll bet the people who didn't have to
shovel the white stuff away liked it.

exactly, what i was thinking. 129 years ago same shit happened. probably 300 and 500 years ago too...

[01Snake]

FLASHBACK: New York City had a record high of 68F on Jan 13, 1932. 70F on Jan 14, 1932 and 67F on Jan 15, 1932

[Nbadan]

There is absolutely no link between smoking and lung cancer.

[jman3000]

Whats wrong with no snow? Ask Mike in spring when he's being lifted into the air by giant bugs.

:lmao ... great visualization

[Nbadan]

Ummm...think of how hot it will be in the N.E. this summer unless El Nino decipitates.

[DarkReign]

For all you peeps who live in sub-tropic regions of this country, you have no idea what youre talking about.

Your definition of "weather change" differs GREATLY with mine (and every other Northerner).

This "winter" isnt normal. Its never happened in my lifetime (27 years). Because New York broke some records in 190-whatever means shit. What was their weather before and after said record-setting?

It has never been uncommon to have weird temperate weather in the midst of a cold, dark, snowy winter.

But when its now January 8th, and no snow has fallen, no weather below 30 degrees F, very spotty ice (only at night), this is ODD. VERY VERY ODD.

You can pull shit out of your ass all you want about what the temp was in 1973, but the truth is, this isnt normal. At all.

I am not claiming this is global warming or some such, but this is, with no doubt, some sort of seasonal shift. This weather usually starts in August, ends in November, and we are buried in snow from Mid-December to early March.

As I see it, winter hasnt exactly started yet. So now we go from autumn-type conditions in fucking January, to full-out winter in February thru (total guess) April?!

And you, from Texas, are going to tell me this is normal? Fuck you. Your very idea of "seasons" amounts to shit. Unless you lived somewhere else for YEARS, you have no idea what youre even talking about. According to Michigan, you experience 2 seasons, and neither equates to anything nearing our winter.

Michigan gets BURIED in snow due to the Lake Effect (surrounded by water, the usual artic air collects even more moisture blanketing nearly the entire state). That isnt happening, and its weird. If its El Nino, fine, whatever.

But to just write this abnormality off as a non-issue shows your ignorance. Its different, its very different, and EVERYONE I know that is a life-long Michigander cannot recall anything even remotely close to this.

BTW, the forecast this week.....NO FUCKING SNOW. Next week? NO SNOW. We are looking at the traditional 3 months of winter in Michigan of having no snow. Yeah, thats normal, nothing to see here.

[xrayzebra]

For all you peeps who live in sub-tropic regions of this country, you have no idea what youre talking about.

Your definition of "weather change" differs GREATLY with mine (and every other Northerner).

This "winter" isnt normal. Its never happened in my lifetime (27 years). Because New York broke some records in 190-whatever means shit. What was their weather before and after said record-setting?

It has never been uncommon to have weird temperate weather in the midst of a cold, dark, snowy winter.

But when its now January 8th, and no snow has fallen, no weather below 30 degrees F, very spotty ice (only at night), this is ODD. VERY VERY ODD.

You can pull shit out of your ass all you want about what the temp was in 1973, but the truth is, this isnt normal. At all.

I am not claiming this is global warming or some such, but this is, with no doubt, some sort of seasonal shift. This weather usually starts in August, ends in November, and we are buried in snow from Mid-December to early March.

As I see it, winter hasnt exactly started yet. So now we go from autumn-type conditions in fucking January, to full-out winter in February thru (total guess) April?!

And you, from Texas, are going to tell me this is normal? Fuck you. Your very idea of "seasons" amounts to shit. Unless you lived somewhere else for YEARS, you have no idea what youre even talking about. According to Michigan, you experience 2 seasons, and neither equates to anything nearing our winter.

Michigan gets BURIED in snow due to the Lake Effect (surrounded by water, the usual artic air collects even more moisture blanketing nearly the entire state). That isnt happening, and its weird. If its El Nino, fine, whatever.

But to just write this abnormality off as a non-issue shows your ignorance. Its different, its very different, and EVERYONE I know that is a life-long Michigander cannot recall anything even remotely close to this.

BTW, the forecast this week.....NO FUCKING SNOW. Next week? NO SNOW. We are looking at the traditional 3 months of winter in Michigan of having no snow. Yeah, thats normal, nothing to see here.

First, you sense of weather history is exactly 27 years. So things are
unusual from your historical standpoint. Okay!

Second, yes I have lived in many parts of the world for extended times,
although I now live in Texas, was born in Texas and raised in Texas.

(I can remember as a youngster playing outside barefoot and without
a shirt on on Christmas day. In Texas.) I can also tell you about
a Christmas here in San Antonio a few years back where it got down
to 7 degrees and stayed below freezing for several days.

I lived in Canada for four years. I had Canadians tell me on several
occasions about their "brown" Christmas in years past, no snow. I
almost experienced one myself, except it did start to snow on Christmas
eve.

I don't think anyone really disagrees that there may be some global
warming, the argument is what is causing it.

And may I add, enjoy the mild winter. Global cooling could return and
you are going to freeze your know what off. That has also been
predicted in my lifetime.

You might want to read a little history about when the folks from
Europe first came to the United States, they found it unbearably cold
compared to Europe, which was experiencing a warm period.

[MannyIsGod]

Ummm...think of how hot it will be in the N.E. this summer unless El Nino decipitates.El Nino does not mean a hotter summer for any part of the US. The El Nino continuing would be a good thing because it would hinder hurricane activity.

[MannyIsGod]

For all you peeps who live in sub-tropic regions of this country, you have no idea what youre talking about.

Your definition of "weather change" differs GREATLY with mine (and every other Northerner).

This "winter" isnt normal. Its never happened in my lifetime (27 years). Because New York broke some records in 190-whatever means shit. What was their weather before and after said record-setting?

It has never been uncommon to have weird temperate weather in the midst of a cold, dark, snowy winter.

But when its now January 8th, and no snow has fallen, no weather below 30 degrees F, very spotty ice (only at night), this is ODD. VERY VERY ODD.

You can pull shit out of your ass all you want about what the temp was in 1973, but the truth is, this isnt normal. At all.

I am not claiming this is global warming or some such, but this is, with no doubt, some sort of seasonal shift. This weather usually starts in August, ends in November, and we are buried in snow from Mid-December to early March.

As I see it, winter hasnt exactly started yet. So now we go from autumn-type conditions in fucking January, to full-out winter in February thru (total guess) April?!

And you, from Texas, are going to tell me this is normal? Fuck you. Your very idea of "seasons" amounts to shit. Unless you lived somewhere else for YEARS, you have no idea what youre even talking about. According to Michigan, you experience 2 seasons, and neither equates to anything nearing our winter.

Michigan gets BURIED in snow due to the Lake Effect (surrounded by water, the usual artic air collects even more moisture blanketing nearly the entire state). That isnt happening, and its weird. If its El Nino, fine, whatever.

But to just write this abnormality off as a non-issue shows your ignorance. Its different, its very different, and EVERYONE I know that is a life-long Michigander cannot recall anything even remotely close to this.

BTW, the forecast this week.....NO FUCKING SNOW. Next week? NO SNOW. We are looking at the traditional 3 months of winter in Michigan of having no snow. Yeah, thats normal, nothing to see here.Eh, all I know is that one year does not a shift make. Yes, its a warmer than normal winter across most of the northern hemisphere, but that doesn't mean that a shift has taken place or a shift will take place. It simply amounts to what it is: a very warm winter.

Global weather patterns align every so often to produce weird weather across the world. Thats simply the way weather works.

[MannyIsGod]

The heat is on in New York City! The temperature soared to 72° at New York's Central Park Saturday, tying their all-time warmest January temperature ever. New York City has hit 70 degrees in January only twice before since record keeping began in 1869--on January 4, 1932 (70°), and on January 26, 1950 (72°). The 72° reading is a full 34° above their normal high of 38. Records were smashed all over the Northeast today. Philadelphia reached 73° and Newark hit 72°. The all time record for January warmth was 74° in both cities, set on January 26, 1950. Hartford, Connecticut hit 72°, besting their warmest January temperature ever--70°, set on January 14, 1932. How unusual is this winter? La Guardia airport broke their all-time record for the date (59°) at 6am this morning, when the minimum temperature is usually measured! La Guardia went on to post their warmest January temperature ever, 72°. New York City has not seen a single flake of snow this winter, surpassing the winter of 1877-1878 for the longest stretch without snow (a trace of snow was finally measured on January 4, 1878 that winter). New York City averages 22.4 inches of snow per year. While the current weather forecast does show some colder air moving into New York and most of the U.S. over the next week, no snow is forecast for New York City for at least another week.

The reason for the warmth? A moderate El Niño event is adding a tremendous amount of heat to the globe this winter, and has helped displace the jet stream farther to the north than usual. Global warming is also partly to blame, along with natural variability in the Earth's weather. I also believe that the on-going melting of the Arctic Ice Cap may have contributed to this winter's warmth, although it is difficult to know how much so without doing detailed model studies. Record low levels of sea ice in the Arctic in November and December have exposed much larger areas of open water than usual. The open ocean water provides a tremendous source of heat to the atmosphere, and the extra moisture from the open ocean areas creates cloud cover that insulates the surface. This has allowed less cold Arctic air than usual to form over the Northern Hemisphere. However, now that we are well into the coldest part of winter, the Arctic sea ice has frozen up more. This, combined with the natural cooling due to the 24-hour darkness that continues over the pole, is allowing a large area of cold air to form over the pole. The latest runs of the GFS computer model show that this Arctic air will plunge southwards over North America during the next two weeks, bringing near-normal winter conditions to the U.S. and Canada during the second and third weeks of January. However, exceptionally warm conditions will continue over most of Europe and Asia during this period.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html

[Shelly]

Blame the cows.

[01Snake]

Global weather patterns align every so often to produce weird weather across the world. Thats simply the way weather works.

:clap

[MannyIsGod]

:clapThat doesn't mean that global warming isn't an issue. I just think that people try to use ever single weather event or every abnormal season to show that a long term pattern is changing and one of anything does not set a pattern.

[smeagol]

Today it was 56 degree and raining all day. The temp will go down to 42 by wednesday but will increase again on Saturday January 13 to 62 again. It's nuts!

Those folks that live of the ski related tourism at this point are shooting themselves.

[Fillmoe]

You guys should watch the Global Warming movie by Al Gore.

[xrayzebra]

Yeah and I should watch Saturday morning cartoons. Same thing.

[01Snake]

You guys should watch the Global Warming movie by Al Gore.

Uh...no.

[Nbadan]

That doesn't mean that global warming isn't an issue. I just think that people try to use ever single weather event or every abnormal season to show that a long term pattern is changing and one of anything does not set a pattern.

Umm...Manny, the long term pattern is that high CO2 amounts in the air lead to high spikes in temperature. High CO2 used to be mainly caused by volcanic activity, but there aren't that many volcanos going off, so there must be some cause today that is driving CO2 levels up that has never existed before - man.

[Fillmoe]

Uh...no.


Why not? Are you one of those one sided type of people that only listen/watch things from one angle before you go on flapping your gums on some ignorant shit?

[DarkReign]

Why not? Are you one of those one sided type of people that only listen/watch things from one angle before you go on flapping your gums on some ignorant shit?

Welcome to the political forum. Good luck, newb.

[MannyIsGod]

Umm...Manny, the long term pattern is that high CO2 amounts in the air lead to high spikes in temperature. High CO2 used to be mainly caused by volcanic activity, but there aren't that many volcanos going off, so there must be some cause today that is driving CO2 levels up that has never existed before - man.I say a warm season in and of itself is not an indicator of anything, and Dan says that the long term pattern is of changing CO2 levels.

Ok?

[01Snake]

Why not? Are you one of those one sided type of people that only listen/watch things from one angle before you go on flapping your gums on some ignorant shit?

Two words: Al Gore

[01Snake]

How's the weather today smeagol?? :lol

[smeagol]

How's the weather today smeagol?? :lol
Some flurries in the morning. Overall, probably the coldest day of the current winter. Temperature is suppose to increase by 20 degree again by the weekend.

I took the day of so it sucked walking the streets with this cold winds.

I went to see Les Miz. Good, that musical rules!