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Mr.Bottomtooth
01-06-2007, 01:59 PM
O'Neal's frustration boils over
He is tired of Pacers playing like 'a very average team,' ponders his future

By Mike Wells
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DALLAS -- The Indiana Pacers' inconsistency has started to take its toll on their franchise player.

Forward Jermaine O'Neal spent about 20 minutes inside an empty locker room at the American Airlines Center late Thursday night venting about their 17-16 record.

"We're a very average team right now," O'Neal said. "We're going to be average until we decide as players that we want to win and do the right things we're supposed to do to win. If we don't do it, we're going to mingle around .500, get in the playoffs and then be out."

O'Neal's frustrations boiled over after the Pacers squandered an opportunity to end the Dallas Mavericks' 11-game winning streak Thursday. The Pacers played solid for the first three-plus quarters only to "self destruct" in the final few minutes.

The constant inconsistency has O'Neal thinking about his future with the Pacers. O'Neal, who is averaging a team-high 19.3 points, 10.6 rebounds and 3.2 blocks per game, reiterated his comments made to The Star last summer about playing with the team beyond this season.

"If I can't take this team to another level, I truthfully believe we should go our separate ways at the end of the season," said O'Neal, who added his first choice is to remain with the Pacers. "I'm saying in general, the bottom line is you play to win. If we don't have a system set to win a championship, if we don't have the crew to win a championship, then what are we doing?

"I'm getting to the point, I'm in my 11th year, I don't want to play 82 games and then exit to watch somebody else pop champagne. . . . I'm tired of that. I want to compete for a championship. If we can't do it, that's a whole (different) story."

When asked if he has taken his displeasure to CEO Donnie Walsh and team president Larry Bird, O'Neal said, "It's in the best interest of my team and the city not to comment about that. The bottom line is we win and lose as a team and everybody is responsible for it. The coaching staff all the way down to the players."

Walsh, making one of his few road appearances, said he understands O'Neal's frustration.

"I think he's played really well and if the time comes for (talking about O'Neal's future), then that will be the time. We'll see," Walsh said. "I don't like to respond to comments after a tough loss like that. We're going through a difficult part of the season. I'm frustrated, the coaches are frustrated on occasion and the team is frustrated."

The Pacers, who overhauled their roster last summer, have beaten Detroit and Orlando, two of the top teams in the Eastern Conference, twice each this season. It's losses to Boston, Toronto, Seattle and Charlotte that have stopped any talk of them being an elite team in the East.
Tonight, they are at Oklahoma City.

The Pacers' longest losing streak is only three games. They have failed seven times to win three straight games.

"We've proven we can go out and beat the best teams in the East. We've also gone out and proven we can lose to the worst teams in the East," O'Neal said. "What's the solution? I don't know what the solution is. It's frustrating."

The Pacers' rotation has been just as inconsistent as their play on the court. Players are uncertain of their roles on the team. Talk about players having their own personal agenda has started to circulate around the locker room.

"Before the season started, we met with each one of our players and told them what is to be expected of each one of them," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said. "We coach them and try to do better. We don't always play great. The thing I'm encouraged about is our effort has been really good. We just have to cut down on mistakes."

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070106/SPORTS04/701060438/1088

kingsfan
01-06-2007, 02:03 PM
I could see him in purple and black, make it happen GP! http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smielephant.gif
A lot more players are demanding trades this year, is it just me or are there more than usual?

Texas_Ranger
01-06-2007, 02:31 PM
Trade Barry, Finley and Beno for him and someone else.

Amarelooms
01-06-2007, 03:10 PM
Trade Barry, Finley and Beno for him and someone else.

Lol why would anyone want those garbage players. Spurs would have to trade Ginobili and Parker at least

Fillmoe
01-06-2007, 03:58 PM
sac will take him

JamStone
01-06-2007, 04:12 PM
JO would look good in a Lakers uniform playing second fiddle to Kobe.

Bob Lanier
01-06-2007, 04:28 PM
Jermaine O'Neal loves the sound of his own voice.

T-Pain
01-07-2007, 01:18 AM
i say we make a run for him. he had an interest going to the spurs if he knew ahead time they were gonna fire Isiah Thomas

TDMVPDPOY
01-07-2007, 03:21 AM
i say we trade orbs+barry+beno+picks+scolas rights, basically get rid of our bench

boutons_
01-07-2007, 05:52 AM
30 teams is too many.
Talent is too diluted.
Not enough talent for 30 x 8 = 240 rotations players.

The NBA is making too much money now to close franchsies,
but the product (games) is, on average, absolute shit.

JO's team is one that is doing nothing, going nowhere, with no prospects for years to come. Artest blew up that fragile franchise.

TDMVPDPOY
01-07-2007, 07:36 AM
i say we get him and steph on there hands in exchange of our bench and first rounders, get another team involve too make it work....

RS189
01-07-2007, 10:20 AM
Trade Barry, Finley and Beno for him and someone else.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

2Cleva
01-07-2007, 01:36 PM
JO would look good in a Lakers uniform playing second fiddle to Kobe.

Indeed. LA won't deal Bynum or LO though.

But Kwame, Parker, and Cook or Radmanovic? Thats doable.

Spurminator
01-07-2007, 03:56 PM
He had his chance.

Samr
01-07-2007, 03:59 PM
The exact type of player who would demand a trade so he can win a championship has the exact type of attitude that will keep his current team from winning one.

Championships aren't something you fall into. Championships are something you earn. You would think that, in his 11 seasons in the NBA, O'Neal would have already learned this. Apparently not. He's a veteran in years only.

ducks
01-07-2007, 10:30 PM
had oneal known thomas would be fired he would be a spur
had spurs went after him before kidd he might already be a spur
gasp the spurs might not have manu though

CubanMustGo
01-07-2007, 10:37 PM
gasp the spurs might not have manu though

Yeah, and then you'd have to bitch about someone else incessantly.

ducks
01-07-2007, 10:39 PM
that was a fact
to bad brand was a restrive fa that year
he would have been a spur!
and hopefully manu would settle to pay for less