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Solid D
01-08-2007, 06:00 PM
I'll take Soul, myself.

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/0/2/7/0/12940720-12940722-large.jpg

Fillmoe
01-08-2007, 06:04 PM
King James

dirk4mvp
01-08-2007, 06:07 PM
Elvis

Fillmoe
01-08-2007, 06:13 PM
can you even name 2 elvis tracks?

kingsfan
01-08-2007, 06:22 PM
He lives in Tenn. I would hope so.

Fillmoe
01-08-2007, 06:24 PM
He lives in Tenn. I would hope so.


hes like 12 years old....

kingsfan
01-08-2007, 06:28 PM
^ I know but in Tenn. they play Elvis all the time.

dirk4mvp
01-08-2007, 06:30 PM
Yes, I can. my dad is a huge Elvis fan so it's kinda mandatory I know about Elvis. I like Elvis's music too. I like Elvis better. Would that be a problem to you?

tlongII
01-08-2007, 06:51 PM
James Brown is the Godfather. Elvis is the King.

Texas_Ranger
01-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Elvis's a king.:king

Solid D
01-08-2007, 07:14 PM
James Brown is the Godfather. Elvis is the King.

Sorry, Elvis is/was not the King of Soul.

tlongII
01-08-2007, 07:26 PM
Sorry, Elvis is/was not the King of Soul.

And James Brown is not the Godfather of rock and roll.

ZStomp
01-08-2007, 08:26 PM
Elvis. No question.

leemajors
01-08-2007, 08:52 PM
elvis was a cultural rapist, but better than pat boone i guess.

Solid D
01-08-2007, 09:26 PM
And James Brown is not the Godfather of rock and roll.

..uh, that would be correct.

ZStomp
01-08-2007, 09:55 PM
http://images.musicclub.it/foto/ki/big/KING_DIAMOND.tif.big.jpg

How about this King....King Diamond?

scott
01-08-2007, 09:58 PM
Chuck Berry is both of their biological fathers

ZStomp
01-08-2007, 09:59 PM
And James Brown is not the Godfather of rock and roll.

http://www.metallibrary.ru/bands/discographies/images/ozzy_osbourne/photos/ozzy_osbourne_02.jpg

This is the Godfather of Rock N Roll.

Silver21_Black20
01-08-2007, 09:59 PM
http://elvis-aaron-presley.com/e-a-p.jpg

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-08-2007, 10:26 PM
I like 'em both but I've got to give the nod to the big E.

Guru of Nothing
01-08-2007, 11:36 PM
Silly question - Elvis in a landslide.

James Brown only has one factor working in his favor here.

That said, James Brown was excellent.

Comparing Elvis to James Brown is akin to comparing The Beatles to The Beach Boys.

Why can't we all get along?

Solid D
01-09-2007, 12:01 AM
Silly question - Elvis in a landslide.

James Brown only has one factor working in his favor here.

That said, James Brown was excellent.

Comparing Elvis to James Brown is akin to comparing The Beatles to The Beach Boys.

Why can't we all get along?

Elvis is certainly bigger and made more jack but this is about personal preference, since I didn't exactly verbalize the specific criteria.

I'm old enough to remember some early "Beatles or Dave Clark 5?" debates. We all know how that turned out.

tlongII
01-09-2007, 12:12 AM
Elvis is certainly bigger and made more jack but this is about personal preference, since I didn't exactly verbalize the specific criteria.

I'm old enough to remember some early "Beatles or Dave Clark 5?" debates. We all know how that turned out.


But you said King. James Brown has never been known as the King.

Solid D
01-09-2007, 12:32 AM
But you said King. James Brown has never been known as the King.

Yes, we all know he called himself the "Godfather of Soul".

But he's the King of Soul.

2nd only to Elvis in hit records. He is number 1 in R&B hits with
over 116 charted hits during his career.
James Brown has 96 top 100 hits, Aretha Franklin 86
James Brown has 116 R&B hits, Aretha Franklin 90+

Now look'a here son, if Aretha is the Queen of Soul, then James Brown is the King of Soul.

tlongII
01-09-2007, 12:36 AM
Yes, we all know he called himself the "Godfather of Soul".

But he's the King of Soul.

2nd only to Elvis in hit records. He is number 1 in R&B hits with
over 116 charted hits during his career.
James Brown has 96 top 100 hits, Aretha Franklin 86
James Brown has 116 R&B hits, Aretha Franklin 90+

Now look'a here son, if Aretha is the Queen of Soul, then James Brown is the King of Soul.

I'm sorry, but you do not have the authority to bestow that title upon him. That title is currently vacant. JB is the Godfather of Soul.

Solid D
01-09-2007, 12:37 AM
Yes I do...

several newpapers, at least, gave him that name.

Guru of Nothing
01-09-2007, 12:39 AM
Elvis is certainly bigger and made more jack but this is about personal preference, since I didn't exactly verbalize the specific criteria.

I'm old enough to remember some early "Beatles or Dave Clark 5?" debates. We all know how that turned out.

"More jack" was not part of my criteria.

My point was, one was excellent while another was more excellent. The Dave Clark 5 reference was totally miscast.

Guru of Nothing
01-09-2007, 12:47 AM
Now look'a here son, if Aretha is the Queen of Soul, then James Brown is the King of Soul.

James Brown is the "Link Wray" of soul.

Otis Redding and Sam Cooke rank higher on my King of Soul register, off the top of my head. I'm sure I could think of better examples. Screamin' Jay Hawkins? ... and was anyone more soulful than the likes of Marvin Gaye? Curtis Mayfield?

Anyway .... I'm in over my head.

tlongII
01-09-2007, 12:50 AM
James Brown is the "Link Wray" of soul.

Otis Redding and Sam Cooke rank higher on my King of Soul register, off the top of my head. I'm sure I could think of better examples. Screamin' Jay Hawkins? ... and was anyone more soulful than the likes of Marvin Gaye? Curtis Mayfield?

Anyway .... I'm in over my head.

Personally I gotta go with Al Green.

Solid D
01-09-2007, 12:51 AM
I got your point and was not arguing with you GoN. I thought it was a fair statement.

The Dave Clark 5 comment was not tied to your point. It was just a remembrance of an old battle of the bands topic of the 60s.

Kori Ellis
01-09-2007, 12:52 AM
I can't stand Elvis.

So I'll pick James Brown :lol

ChumpDumper
01-09-2007, 12:56 AM
I don't know why they call him the Godfather of Soul when he was really the Father of Funk.

Solid D
01-09-2007, 01:04 AM
http://www.laweekly.com/music/music/the-king-is-dead-long-live-the-king/15316/

ChumpDumper
01-09-2007, 01:09 AM
The author is obviously overcompensating because of his name.

Solid D
01-09-2007, 01:17 AM
:rollin

Shelly
01-10-2007, 10:06 AM
James Brown's Body Has Not Been Buried (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/09/AR2007010901522_pf.html)

By KATRINA A. GOGGINS
The Associated Press
Tuesday, January 9, 2007; 10:34 PM



COLUMBIA, S.C. -- The body of soul singer James Brown has yet to be buried as attorneys and his children work to settle issues surrounding his estate, including where he will be laid to rest.

For now, his body lies in a sealed casket in his home on Beech Island, said Charles Reid, manager of the C.A. Reid Funeral Home in Augusta, Ga., which handled the services.

Brown died of heart failure Dec. 25 at age 73. His will has yet to be filed, said Buddy Dallas, an attorney for the singer.

The room where Brown's body lies is being kept at a controlled temperature, and security guards keep watch, Reid said.

The funeral home delivered Brown's body after services Dec. 30, Reid said.

Brown's home has been locked since hours after his death to protect his memorabilia, furnishing, clothes and other personal items, Dallas said.

"Just imagine what would have happened," Dallas said. "Items of James Brown would have left there like items off the shelves of Macy's in an after-Christmas sale."

The trustees for his will, along with Brown's children, will determine the burial site, Dallas said.

Tomi Rae Hynie, Brown's partner, said shortly after his death that she encountered locked gates as she tried to get into the home she says she shared with the singer and their 5-year-old son.

She wouldn't discuss the incident Tuesday, but her lawyer said Hynie should be granted access to the home, although he would not talk about whether Hynie might take legal action.

"The hope is that all parties can sit down and figure out what the problem is and what the challenges are," attorney Thornton Morris said. "And once we figure out what the challenges are we'll see if we can't resolve something that's a win for everybody."

Meanwhile, a woman who claims Brown raped her nearly 20 years ago said Tuesday she will continue her lawsuit.

Jacque Hollander has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to hear her sexual harassment suit, which a lower court ruled last year she had waited too long to file. A Supreme Court decision on whether to hear the case is pending.

She argues that the two-year statute of limitations in such cases does not provide equal protection to women.

"This has been a long road that ended tragically Christmas morning," Hollander said in a phone interview with the Associated Press.

"As a rape victim, I will never get to face him in court, and it hurts," she said. "But we are moving forward. We filed against his organization, as well as him. So now his organization stands in front of him."

In her lawsuit, Hollander said Brown raped her at gunpoint in 1988 while she was his publicist. She seeks $106 million in damages.

A federal appeals court tossed out Hollander's lawsuit in August.

"There was nothing to it 20 years ago and nothing to it 20 years later," Dallas said.

© 2007 The Associated Press

Taco
01-10-2007, 11:11 AM
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5917/medium250pxmichaeljacksve8.jpg

WHAT?!?!

NO LOVE FOR THE KING OF POP?!?!? :lol

Solid D
01-13-2007, 06:11 PM
Bump

Just watched the last half of the James Brown special on HDTV while doing some house stuff. The show is winding down and Mr. Danny Ray, James' MC for years, yells out to the fans after doing his usual cape thing:
"James Brown....James Brown.....The undisputed King of Soul!"

Word

Taco
01-13-2007, 06:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly_CGin6QS8

James Brown Hot Tub

Jesus
01-13-2007, 06:31 PM
I'm the King of Kings.