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milkyway21
01-08-2007, 08:17 PM
I don't know if this has been discussed before but I'd like to know if there's truth to the rumor from CBS that the Spurs has been linked to this player, an SG, and they 're interested in him. So is it true?

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/teams/report/SA/9914867
The Spurs' main objective is to try to get more athletic. The Spurs also have been linked to Toronto swingman Morris Peterson.

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/196346

Leetonidas
01-08-2007, 08:22 PM
I've heard it numerous times as well.

I would also like to know why they're interested in Mo Pete.

Bob Lanier
01-08-2007, 08:25 PM
Because he's a tough, active perimeter defender (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2006012213).

exstatic
01-08-2007, 08:35 PM
He shoots 39% from the field in the US and 49% in Canada. That's OK when 41 of your games are in Canada. Not so good when 81 of your games are in the US.

ambchang
01-08-2007, 08:41 PM
Mo Pete would be a perfect fit for the Spurs, he is an active perimeter defending SF with range. His defense isn't up there in the Bruce Bowen category, but he is much better offensively, and is one of the better finishers in the league.
As a Spurs fan, I have always wanted Mo Pete as a Spur, but it's unlikely the Spurs can get him, the Raptors are no longer stupid now that they have Colangelo running the show.

Manu_The _Best
01-08-2007, 08:58 PM
WHY? The asnwer is SIMPLE - here is his stats currently for the season - per 48 min. of Play:

Rebounding Statistics
Player AS/48 ST/48 TO/48 BK/48 OR/48 TR/48 peterson,morris 2.0 1.7 1.4 0.2 1.5 7.7

He is got 7.7 Rbs per 48 min. so he CAN rebound the Basketball - he is also athletic and CAN shoot 3s - 45 out of 129 or .349 FG% shooting 3s -

Compare to Finley:
finley,michael 2.7 0.5 1.6 0.3 0.8 6.3
30 out 93 .323 FG% shooting 3s

barry,brent 4.0 1.4 1.5 0.3 0.5 4.9
53 out of 110 .482 FG% shooting 3s


Peterson is the same passer as Finley, but worse than Barry, but he is got the same amount of TOs, and Blocks per game, BUT IS FAR SUPERIOR in steals per game, plus Offensive rbs and Total Rbs per 48 - MUCH better than Finley and Barry; Thus if the Spurs trdae Barry or finley for Peterson, they would get better defender and a rebounder - My opinion is the Spurs SHOULD kepp Barry, who is univerasl and trdae Finley for Mo Peterson - it will be great for us, if we get rid of Finley, but I doubt such a trade will take place...

Looking at C. Maggette - here is his stats:

AS/48 ST/48 TO/48 BK/48 OR/48 TR/48
maggette,corey 2.7 1.3 4.2 0.1 2.2 10.0

Corey Maggette 4 out of 34 .118 shooting 3s, so the Spurs would get ONLY rebounding, subtsantial rebouding by acquiring Maggette, but losing Barry's 3s, and his passing and defending...Barry is the only one out of the 3 who has a positive SPREAD if you look at Tnd/48 vs. Pts/48 - 23.39-18.93 = + 4.46, which shows you Barry contributed OTHER WAYS, not only by passing and scoring 3s, the only problem Barry has is the rebounding...BUT I WOULDN'T TRADE BARRY for Maggette right now -Maggette has 4.2 TO/48 - he is turning the ball over so many times...which is NOT good at ALL...

Manu_The _Best
01-08-2007, 09:17 PM
...It will be excellent trade for the Spurs - they will acquire Peterson's rebounding capabilities total of 7.7 rbs per 48 min. is GREAT, also 1.4 )R/48 is better than Finley and Beno. He is also much better defender than Finley and Beno - 1.7 stls/48 vs. Finley's 0.5 and Beno's 1.3

Rebounding Statistics
Player AS/48 ST/48 TO/48 BK/48 OR/48 TR/48
peterson,morris 2.0 1.7 1.4 0.2 1.5 7.7
finley,michael 2.7 0.5 1.6 0.3 0.8 6.3
Beno Udrih 6.3 1.3 3.4 0.1 0.7 3.9

Peterson is better from the 3-pt line by shooting 3s at .349 vs. Beno's .292 and Finley's .323...The Spurs will lose some passing, BUT Barry can pick that up as becoming the backup to Tony at the point, Peterson CAN replace Bruce Bowen...

Peterson's spread (Tnd overall i Pts/48) is (-.05) negative vs. Finley's (-1.93) negative and Beno's (-3.41) negative, meaning Peterson doesn't hurt the Raptors much overall (not helping much either), but Finley and Beno are HURTING THE SPURS BIG TIME...

Peterson is experienced 3-pt shooter, he can decide games for the Spurs shooting 3s...Finley is a Goose Egg- he needs to leave ASAP!!! :smokin :smokin :smokin :hungry: :hungry: :hungry:

Leetonidas
01-08-2007, 09:22 PM
So if they lose Tony and Manu's backups, who will play behind them? Barry can't play both.

MannyIsGod
01-08-2007, 09:27 PM
I think we should trade Beno and Barry for a new thread.

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-08-2007, 09:30 PM
I think we should trade Beno and Barry for a new thread.

Include two troll names and you've got a deal.

angel_luv
01-08-2007, 09:37 PM
i don't want Beno or Finley to be traded.

However, your wanting to send them to the Raptors made me think...how cool would be cool to have three Slovenians on the same NBA team.
We need more Slovenians in the draft. :fro

phxspurfan
01-08-2007, 09:39 PM
the stats you linked to are garbage.

Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
M. Peterson 27 2-5 1-3 2-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 5 7

milkyway21
01-08-2007, 09:50 PM
the stats you linked to are garbage.

Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
M. Peterson 27 2-5 1-3 2-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 5 7really? thanks for telling me he he:D

BTW, i didn't notice how good this player is..and i never realized some of the Spurs fans actually like him.. i 'm just wondering how this would affect Bowen's minutes or future with this this team if Mo joins the Spurs(which I think is quite a 50-50 chance).

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-08-2007, 09:52 PM
New team + expiring contract = (hopefully) hired gun

Amuseddaysleeper
01-08-2007, 10:18 PM
i don't want Beno or Finley to be traded.

However, your wanting to send them to the Raptors made me think...how cool would be cool to have three Slovenians on the same NBA team.
We need more Slovenians in the draft. :fro
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao


What? Are we trying to create the worst and most lethargic team of all time?

T Park
01-08-2007, 10:20 PM
No thanks to Morris Peterson.

Que Gee
01-08-2007, 10:50 PM
He shoots 39% from the field in the US and 49% in Canada. That's OK when 41 of your games are in Canada. Not so good when 81 of your games are in the US.

So what. Duncan, Parker and Ginobili take 99% of the shots anyway. You don't need him to be a go to scorer. Not saying they should get him, but 40% from the field isn't going to hurt the Spurs offensively if they get an active perimeter defender for the Suns and Mavs...because right now people, the Spurs are not getting to the Finals.

T Park
01-08-2007, 10:54 PM
So what

Theres way better options out there than him.,

Thats why.

Next.

Bob Lanier
01-08-2007, 11:00 PM
the stats you linked to are garbage.

Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
M. Peterson 27 2-5 1-3 2-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 5 7
But he's such a great defender!

tlongII
01-08-2007, 11:13 PM
He shoots 39% from the field in the US and 49% in Canada. That's OK when 41 of your games are in Canada. Not so good when 81 of your games are in the US.

It's that damn exchange rate.

remingtonbo2001
01-08-2007, 11:18 PM
I can't believe your comparing a former all-star, to some guy who has never played a consistant starting role. Man, I have never met so many manics in my entire life. It's as if you want everyone scoring 10+ppg, averaging close to 50% from the field. Yeah, if you give Michael Finley 25+ minutes a game, I would place odds on that he will have a productive game. At the moment, Pop is working 3 new players into our rotation, which has taken some minutes away from those normally in rotation. This may seems to hurting the team at the moment, but I GUARANTEE it will pay off come playoff time. Michael has only been in the system for a year, give him some time.

T Park
01-08-2007, 11:28 PM
eh, Finley knows the system.

Hes just having a bad season.

Getting some young blood in here, would push this team back to the top.

exstatic
01-08-2007, 11:48 PM
So what. Duncan, Parker and Ginobili take 99% of the shots anyway. You don't need him to be a go to scorer. Not saying they should get him, but 40% from the field isn't going to hurt the Spurs offensively if they get an active perimeter defender for the Suns and Mavs...because right now people, the Spurs are not getting to the Finals.
Sounds like good logic, until you realize that you need efficient players in roles, not AI-alikes, shooting 40%.

dave
01-09-2007, 12:39 AM
he hasn't been doing so well lately
btw, does he have herpes? or is that just a rumor?

Texas_Ranger
01-09-2007, 07:38 AM
Because he'll be 30 years old this year, and Spurs need some over 30 years old players.

Bruno
01-09-2007, 10:25 AM
No to MoPete, yes to Maggette, even if Spurs will need to give more things to get Maggette.

AFBlue
01-09-2007, 10:45 AM
No to MoPete, yes to Maggette, even if Spurs will need to give more things to get Maggette.

Agreed. Oddly enough though, I'm not sure the Spurs would have to give up more in order to get Maggette. Peterson holds trade value because of his talent AND because he has an expiring contract. Corey is more talented, but his trade value is pretty low at this point.

Bruno
01-09-2007, 11:46 AM
Peterson holds trade value because of his talent AND because he has an expiring contract.

Agree and disagree.

Expiring contracts have value for teams who wants to go under the tax to sign FAs.
In that case, the talent of the player isn't as important as the fact that he is expiring.

When a team try to get a player for his talent, the value of the player with an expiring contract is lower than the value of a player with a 1 or 2 years contract because teams aren't ready to give a lot for a six month rental. An expiring contract is a player who can leave his team in six months and it's even more the case for Peterson because he won't get more than the MLE : the team who gets him has to fight with 29 teams to re-sign instead of 3 or 4 bad teams that are under the cap for players worth more than the MLE.

Either you consider Peterson as a contract and his trade value isn't higher that Danny Fortson trade value or you condider him as a talent and his trade value is way lower than Maggette trade value (Maggette is better and his contract situation is better).

zeleni
01-09-2007, 04:02 PM
Mo Pete a really good idea. Finley for instance would make a tremendous impact on the Toronto team, since they desperately need another veteran leader. Rasho is good, but he is no authority on Bosh.

Mo Pete on the other hand knows how to shoot, eventhough he never quite knew how to defend.

milkyway21
01-10-2007, 01:08 AM
he hasn't been doing so well lately
btw, does he have herpes? or is that just a rumor?there was one model suing him for US$1.5m for that, i read once, i'm not quite sure.

Kobulingam
01-10-2007, 01:16 AM
Trade Finley for Chris Bosh!

T Park
01-10-2007, 01:26 AM
Im sure the Raptors will swing for that :lol

milkyway21
01-10-2007, 03:24 AM
Mo Pete a really good idea. Finley for instance would make a tremendous impact on the Toronto team, since they desperately need another veteran leader. Rasho is good, but he is no authority on Bosh.

Mo Pete on the other hand knows how to shoot, eventhough he never quite knew how to defend.maybe i'd rather settle for Mike Finley then. :(