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ATX Spur
01-12-2007, 12:42 AM
Hate mail follows promotion — management says it’s serving customers


DALLAS - A pizza chain has been hit with death threats and hate mail after offering to accept Mexican pesos, becoming another flashpoint in the nation’s debate over immigrants.

“This is the United States of America, not the United States of Mexico,” one e-mail read. “Quit catering to the damn illegal Mexicans,” demanded another.

Dallas-based Pizza Patron said it was not trying to inject itself into a larger political debate about illegal immigration when it posted signs this week saying “Aceptamos pesos” — or “We accept pesos” — at its 59 stores across Texas, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada and California.

Pizza Patron spokesman Andy Gamm said the company was just trying to sell more pizza to its customers, 60 percent of whom are Hispanic.

Wal-Mart, H-E-B supermarkets and other American businesses in towns along the Mexican border accept pesos. And some busineses in New York and Minnesota communities along the northern border accept Canadian dollars.

The difference here is that many of the pizza joints are far from the border, in places like Dallas, more than 400 miles away, and Denver, more than 700 miles.

“If people would understand that the majority of our customers are Hispanic, then it might make more sense for a company to sell pizza for pesos,” Gamm said. “It doesn’t make sense in Connecticut. And it doesn’t make sense in North Dakota or in Maine. But it makes perfect sense here in Dallas, in Phoenix, in Denver — areas far from the border that have significant Hispanic populations.”

The company said it has received hundreds of e-mails, some supportive, most critical.

While praising the pesos plan as an innovative way to appeal to Hispanics, a partner in the nation’s largest Hispanic public relations firm said a backlash was inevitable.

“Right now there’s a lot of anti-immigrant rhetoric going around that could make them a lightning rod,” said Patricia Perez, a partner at Valencia, Perez & Echeveste in Los Angeles.

Pizza Patron proclaims on its Web site that “to serve the Hispanic community is our passion.” Its restaurants are in mostly Hispanic neighborhoods, and each manager must be bilingual and live nearby, said Pizza Patron founder Antonio Swad, who is part-Italian, part-Lebanese.

The take-home menus are in both English and Spanish, and the dishes include the La Mexicana pizza, with spicy chorizo sausage; La Barbacoa pizza, topped with spicy pulled pork; and chicken wings flavored with lime, peppers and garlic con queso.

Many Pizza Patron customers have pesos “sitting in their sock drawers or in their wallets,” Gamm said. “We’re talking small amounts, where it would be inconvenient to stop and exchange on the way back — maybe 10 or 20 dollars’ worth of pesos.”

The promotion will run through the end of February and then be re-evaluated, Swad said.

In the first week, payments in pesos have accounted for about 10 percent of business at the five restaurants operated by the corporation, Pizza Patron said. The others are franchised, and the company will not get reports until the end of the week.

The company has set a conversion rate of 12 pesos per dollar, which is slightly higher than the official rate of about 11 pesos per dollar. Any change is given in U.S. currency.

At a Pizza Patron in Dallas, Veronica Verges bought a pizza Wednesday for her son Nathan’s fourth birthday. She paid with pesos her father brought home two weeks ago after a trip to see family in Mexico.

She said she is an occasional Pizza Patron customer, but came that day because she could pay with pesos. Her father wasn’t going to use them because he had no plans to go back to Mexico anytime soon.

“I would mostly think a restaurant would do this in a border town,” she said. “But it got me over here.”

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ATX Spur
01-12-2007, 12:44 AM
I didn't think much of this article until I saw the poll results. Is this for real?


Should U.S. restaurants accept pesos? * 7562 responses

Sure -- money is money
35%

No -- this is America
62%

I'm much more worried about the Canadian dollar threat
2.7%

MannyIsGod
01-12-2007, 04:14 AM
Thats brilliant. They're charging the people more for the pizza. People who complain are fucking idiots.

atxrocker
01-12-2007, 04:16 AM
i hear the pizza patron in austin fucking sucks.

ObiwanGinobili
01-12-2007, 09:19 AM
It's Pizza Patron...... of course they take peso's.

I don;t really see th issue folkd have with this. there are other buisness;s that take foriegn currency. granted they are usually closer to the border.
I grew up in New England - and you could pay with canadian money a surprising # of places.

shit - i wish i could pay with Yen somewhere around here... Emo came home with a shitload of it in a jacket pocket he forgot about. And it;s a pain in the ass getting it exchanged.

Borosai
01-12-2007, 09:28 AM
I'm LOLAOTP I'm going to go make some counterfeit pesos and order pizza every day.

Taco
01-12-2007, 09:31 AM
http://www.christiananswers.net/spanish/q-acb/peso.jpg

boutons_
01-12-2007, 09:38 AM
Interesting idea. Is passing counterfeit pesos, (pesos are not legal tender in USA?), in sales (as opposed to foreign exchange transaction) in US illegal? :lol

Since when does patriotism come before making money in the USA?

As Gordon Gekko proclaimed, "Greed is good", right? All greed is all good :)

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-12-2007, 10:45 AM
Holy crap, Batman!

A business marketing to a large segment of its clientèle!

Cue the hate mail!

Spurminator
01-12-2007, 10:52 AM
I hear that some large advertisers have been running ads targeting Hispanic consumers... IN SPANISH!!!!!11!1!1

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-12-2007, 10:56 AM
I hear that some large advertisers have been running ads targeting Hispanic consumers... IN SPANISH!!!!!11!1!1


Those writing death threats would probably threaten to kill Jackie O if she wasn't already dead. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGPsfX01YBo)

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-12-2007, 10:59 AM
Even our President is supporting those danged illegal beaners. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZWTkUGMfT0)

ObiwanGinobili
01-12-2007, 11:19 AM
this wouldn;t be such an issue if god fearing anglo americans did not have to live in fear of the incidious 'mexican' migration which we all know is the ground work for an all out hispanic coup, over throwing establised american government and way of life.


[/sarcastic rasist commentary]

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-12-2007, 11:22 AM
this wouldn;t be such an issue if god fearing anglo americans did not have to live in fear of the incidious 'mexican' migration which we all know is the ground work for an all out hispanic coup, over throwing establised american government and way of life.


[/sarcastic rasist commentary]

Looks like we got ourselves one of them self-hating Mexicans... :lol

ObiwanGinobili
01-12-2007, 11:25 AM
Looks like we got ourselves one of them self-hating Mexicans... :lol


:lol oh god I am so Heinz57 I have a hard time in the mornings decided which part of myself will be hating which other part of myself.


actually I bet you my remaining vBucks (which I doubt is unneccesary since you prob. agree with me) that my previous post is exactly or close to the kind of thinkign that was goign thru most of the "no, this is america" poll respondents minds.

Shelly
01-12-2007, 11:56 AM
So how do they report their income? Do they have to exchange the money to US currency first and then report it?

ObiwanGinobili
01-12-2007, 12:06 PM
So how do they report their income? Do they have to exchange the money to US currency first and then report it?

yes.

i would bet hey are listing the extra peso (12 to a us $1 instead of the going rate of 11) as thier exchange fee.

SpursWoman
01-12-2007, 12:47 PM
So how do they report their income? Do they have to exchange the money to US currency first and then report it?

Yes ... the same as any other company involved in international business. It's converted at the exchange value as of the reporting date. :)




Why is this a big deal? No one in Cancun had a hard time accepting my US$, and they aren't exactly a border town. :spin

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-12-2007, 01:01 PM
Damn those Mexicans and their need for pizza! Damn them all to Mexico...ummm I mean hell!

CavsSuperFan
01-12-2007, 02:27 PM
LMAO@ ED.... Since when have illegal immigrants been lining up to buy all of our Italian food?

“There they go again...with their menudo pots, getting the best deals on our spaghetti dinners, calzones & pizza pies”...

ShoogarBear
01-12-2007, 03:34 PM
Even worse than that . . .

I heard some places in San Antonio serve MEXICAN FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF??? This is AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eat American or go home!!!!!!!!!!

MannyIsGod
01-12-2007, 03:57 PM
:lol

Man, people are fucking retarded. The human race WILL blow itself up one day. I promise.

johnsmith
01-12-2007, 03:57 PM
:lol

Man, people are fucking retarded. The human race WILL blow itself up one day. I promise.


That's not really going out on a limb Manny.

Spurminator
01-12-2007, 04:00 PM
Sometimes I wonder if there is some secret hate mail organization somewhere that just sends shit to everyone.

I think hate mail and even most death threats are overrated.

johnsmith
01-12-2007, 04:06 PM
Sometimes I wonder if there is some secret hate mail organization somewhere that just sends shit to everyone.


You've heard of the group before.........it's called "baby boomers".

ShoogarBear
01-12-2007, 04:16 PM
actually I bet you my remaining vBucks (which I doubt is unneccesary since you prob. agree with me) that my previous post is exactly or close to the kind of thinkign that was goign thru most of the "no, this is america" poll respondents minds.Except when going through their minds it is spelled better.

ObiwanGinobili
01-12-2007, 04:24 PM
Except when going through their minds it is spelled better.


oor maybee knot.

CubanMustGo
01-12-2007, 04:38 PM
I don't understand what skin it is off anyone's nose if a business accepts foreign currency of ANY type as long as it's in addition to US$ as opposed to in lieu of US$. It's a friggin' business decision, for Pete's sake, and if the company wants to bear the added expense of converting the foreign currency and underwriting the float time before they get their funds back in US$, it's their decision.

I will admit to not being fond of illegal immigrants (no matter what the originating country), but anyone who is bitching about Pizza Patron catering to its customers needs to get a life.

ShoogarBear
01-12-2007, 04:45 PM
Maybe if Taco Bell did it, some Mexicans would actually go there.

johnsmith
01-12-2007, 04:45 PM
Maybe if Taco Bell did it, some Mexicans would actually go there.


Is that a shot at Taco Bell or Mexicans?

ShoogarBear
01-12-2007, 04:49 PM
Is that a shot at Taco Bell or Mexicans?You're kidding, right?

Do you know anyone who likes Mexican food who goes to Taco Bell?

MannyIsGod
01-12-2007, 05:32 PM
I don't know how Taco Bell survives in San Antonio. That proves that the white population here is going strong.

ObiwanGinobili
01-12-2007, 05:55 PM
taco Bell is the most craptastic food on the planet. I barely categorize it as food at all. I truly don;t understand how people eat there by choice.

1369
01-12-2007, 06:02 PM
taco Bell is the most craptastic food on the planet. I barely categorize it as food at all. I truly don;t understand how people eat there by choice.

Back when rocks were soft and dinosaurs roamed the Earth, post quarter bag consumption (this is back in the days of a true quarter bag weighing a quarter ounce and costing $25) on a Sunday mandated that Taco Bell would be visited for $0.29 taco Sunday.

I would get the funniest looks at the drive thru when I'd order $15.00 worth of tacos.

And a large Mountain Dew.

ObiwanGinobili
01-12-2007, 06:04 PM
Back when rocks were soft and dinosaurs roamed the Earth, post quarter bag consumption (this is back in the days of a true quarter bag weighing a quarter ounce and costing $25) on a Sunday mandated that Taco Bell would be visited for $0.29 taco Sunday.

I would get the funniest looks at the drive thru when I'd order $15.00 worth of tacos.

And a large Mountain Dew.


dam nthat was a long friggin time ago.

Spurminator
01-12-2007, 06:04 PM
Man, I love Taco Bell... and I love Mexican food too, but I wouldn't categorize them with each other.

ShoogarBear
01-12-2007, 06:07 PM
Man, I love Taco BellCongrats, you just displaced Blaze from my sig.

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-12-2007, 06:35 PM
Congrats, you just displaced Blaze from my sig.

Whoohoo!

midgetonadonkey
01-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Grilled Stuffed Burritos are the best.

MannyIsGod
01-12-2007, 06:37 PM
You know, thats kinda funny. Because I have made high trips to TAco Bell my self what I ordered were a ton of Tacos and Mt. Dew. :lol

I don't eat that shit anymore though. I want funyons when I'm high now :)

midgetonadonkey
01-12-2007, 06:44 PM
You know, thats kinda funny. Because I have made high trips to TAco Bell my self what I ordered were a ton of Tacos and Mt. Dew. :lol

I don't eat that shit anymore though. I want funyons when I'm high now :)

When I was in High School, I used to smoke a couple of blunts and then order 5 Double Decker Tacos.

samikeyp
01-12-2007, 09:09 PM
This place will be next....

http://www.beaners.com/Portals/_default/Skins/Beaners/images/left_front.gif

johnsmith
01-13-2007, 09:54 AM
I don't know how Taco Bell survives in San Antonio. That proves that the white population here is going strong.


I'm white, and I love Taco Bell.

:toast

MannyIsGod
01-13-2007, 02:56 PM
See.

01Snake
01-13-2007, 03:28 PM
I'm white, and I love Taco Bell.

:toast

I like their taco's. :hungry: Hell, I like Jack in the Box tacos too.

Bob Lanier
01-13-2007, 03:29 PM
Do the San Antonio Taco Bells have seashells?

Melmart1
01-13-2007, 04:09 PM
I don't see how jack in the box gets away with calling that shit 'tacos'. Gross!

johnsmith
01-13-2007, 04:11 PM
I don't see how jack in the box gets away with calling that shit 'tacos'. Gross!


Do you know how long it took me to accept the fact that breakfast tacos are indeed "tacos"?


Not everyone is from SA or South Texas you know...................Thank God.

Melmart1
01-13-2007, 04:15 PM
And thank God not everyone is from Denver, either :lol

Fillmoe
01-13-2007, 04:19 PM
holla at me when they start accepting rupees

johnsmith
01-13-2007, 04:21 PM
And thank God not everyone is from Denver, either :lol


Agreed.











I wasn't born in Denver jackass.

scott
01-13-2007, 07:57 PM
I'm withholding judgement until T Park weighs in.

mFFL03
01-16-2007, 02:38 AM
ho man...there'd be no point in counterfeiting pesos....

that is unless you love having water for poop everyday