Which Owner/FO wants to win more...Cuban or Holt?

[Fabbs]

Cuban pays 17 million per (51M overall) to ship Finley.
Spurs will not pay 3.5M to acquire Scola rights.

Cuban is simply richer?
Or Cuban wants to win more or lets his actions do the talkin?

Granted, Scola may not be the answer and may be limited trade bait, but trade bait nonetheless. As it is he sits and adds zero.

1-0 Cuban after last year no matter how you slice it.

[nkdlunch]

more importantly, which coach wants to win more? Pop don't give a shit anymore

[Kori Ellis]

Cuban pays 17 million per (51M overall) to ship Finley.
Spurs will not pay 3.5M to acquire Scola rights.
Cuban is simply richer?
Or Cuban wants to win more or lets his actions do the talkin?

Granted, Scola may not be the answer and may be limited trade bait, but trade bait nonetheless. As it is he sits and adds zero.

1-0 Cuban after last year no matter how you slice it.

The Spurs can only pay $500K toward Scola's buyout. That's a league rule.

[Spurminator]

Cuban pays 17 million per (51M overall) to ship Finley.

Uh... Cuban was going to pay that whether he kept Finley or shipped him.

He saved money by shipping him.

[Fabbs]

The Spurs can only pay $500K toward Scola's buyout. That's a league rule.
http://cbg.nohomers.net/images/cbgpapers.gif
Whatever price in buyout/salary combo needed to acquire Scola.
Either to play or to trade.

[Fabbs]

Uh... Cuban was going to pay that whether he kept Finley or shipped him.

He saved money by shipping him.
You have a point there. He saved luxery tax.
Even so, i believe Cuban would spend 3.5M in the same situation in a heartbeat if it could benefit Dallas. Even a schooche.

[Kori Ellis]

Whatever price in buyout/salary combo needed to acquire Scola.
Either to play or to trade.

With what money? The Spurs are over the salary cap. Even if they wanted to sign Scola for $5M a year right now today, they aren't allowed to do so.

[TDMVPDPOY]

hasnt holt been making a profit over the years in the duncan era? :(:(

[Kori Ellis]

hasnt holt been making a profit over the years in the duncan era? :(:(

I certainly hope so. Otherwise he should have sold his share a long time ago :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I don't understand the point of the thread. Are you saying:

1) Be a mavfan

or

2) Sell the team to Cuban

Which is it?

[Fabbs]

With what money? The Spurs are over the salary cap. Even if they wanted to sign Scola for $5M a year right now today, they aren't allowed to do so.
Says who? Dallas is way over arent they?

[Fabbs]

I don't understand the point of the thread. Are you saying:

1) Be a mavfan

or

2) Sell the team to Cuban

Which is it?
For you to continue to save money and hopefully make it out of Kansas some day.

[wildbill2u]

Cuban wants it more because he hasn't had a championship yet--and he can afford to pay more than any single individual person in San Antonio. We don't have anyone that super rich.

[Kori Ellis]

Says who?

Says the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


Dallas is way over arent they?

Sure. The Spurs are over too. But you have to go by the rules of the CBA to sign players. If the Spurs wanted to sign Scola right now, the most they could do is cut one of their players and sign him to a minimum contract. And a minimum contract isn't enough for him to afford to pay his buyout.

[Fabbs]

Says the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Sure. The Spurs are over too. But you have to go by the rules of the CBA to sign players. If the Spurs wanted to sign Scola right now, the most they could do is cut one of their players and sign him to a minimum contract. And a minimum contract isn't enough for him to afford to pay his buyout.
Wow I thought it was each teams choice. I learned something.
Well, we surely can't cut Finley.
I think Cuban would find a way to figure this out.
Have some bank loan Scola the money against future earnings. Hope he makes it past his 1st year. Or can he only get the rookie minimum for 3 years? http://cbg.nohomers.net/images/newgrab6.gif

[Texas_Ranger]

Every single owner in the NBA want's to win. So that is a very stupid question.

[ArgSpursFan]

I really think that they should do something to bring Scola,no matter what it is.He is the best Euroleague player right now,and has been for the last three or four years,let´s give the guy a chance.+Horry or Elson are not being the answer for the team right now.

[Fabbs]

Every single owner in the NBA want's to win. So that is a very stupid question.
Got some land to sell you in Florida. Used cars too. Also a Donald Sterling autographed Comic Book Store Guy book.

[Fabbs]

I really think that they should do something to bring Scola,no matter what it is.He is the best Euroleague player right now,and has been for the last three or four years,let´s give the guy a chance.+Horry or Elson are not being the answer for the team right now.
Hey now the Spurs are 14-1 when Elson plays 20+ minutes.
But yes, bring Scola on or trade him. Don't let the draft pic go to waste.

[Kori Ellis]

Wow I thought it was each teams choice. I learned something.
Well, we surely can't cut Finley.
I think Cuban would find a way to figure this out.
Have some bank loan Scola the money against future earnings. Hope he makes it past his 1st year. Or can he only get the rookie minimum for 3 years?

Well this summer, the Spurs will have the MLE (mid-level exception) available. And if they want to do so, they can choose to go even more over the cap and use it to sign Scola for up to about $5M/year.

But if you are talking about signing him right now, this season, the only thing they can do is cut a player and sign him for a minimum contract.

[ChumpDumper]

For you to continue to save money and hopefully make it out of Kansas some day.As usual, that makes no sense.

[LEONARD]

Cuban is the man... :fro

[Extra Stout]

Wow I thought it was each teams choice. I learned something.
Well, we surely can't cut Finley.
I think Cuban would find a way to figure this out.
Have some bank loan Scola the money against future earnings. Hope he makes it past his 1st year. Or can he only get the rookie minimum for 3 years?
You almsot had a premise for a thread here, but with the bolded part, you have lapsed irretrievably into stupidity. Sorry.

[FromWayDowntown]

Fabbs is right -- the Spurs should show us fans that they want to win by immediatley offering Fabricio Oberto and Beno Udrih 7-year extensions for the maximum. After all, a big payroll is pretty much the only sign that an owner is interested in winning.

[dg7md]

The answer is obviously Cuban on who WANTS to win more.

[Budkin]

Cuban obviously because he's never won before.

[smdanss]

I don't like Cuban, but Cuban >>> Holt ! :p:

[Amare_32]

Every single owner in the NBA want's to win. So that is a very stupid question.


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[lefty]

Well, since Dallas has 0 championship, I say Cuban

[Marcus Bryant]

Holt wanted to win badly before, but been, there done that. Been there, done that. Been there, done that. Also, you need to make a distinction between the basketball personnel in the FO and ownership.

[dknights411]

Holt already has a nice trophy case, and Cuban's is still incomplete. Cuban definatly wants it more.

[Fabbs]

From todays Ludden article:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA012307.webSpursMailbag.en.e1d7f46.html

Q. Since you're considering trade possibilities, how about an Udrih and Williams for Earl Watson trade with the Sonics?

He also still has close to $19 million left on his contract. Spurs officials have made it clear they don’t want to pay a backup point guard $6 million a season.

[my2sons]

you tell her fabbs...and take this kori...oh ya..and i told you so...i guess the facts get in the of the truth where fabbs logic is concerned. and no i do not need earl watson with 19 million left on his contract they can keep him

[johnpaulwall21]

Holts a greedy mo fo

[Fabbs]

you tell her fabbs...and take this kori...oh ya..and i told you so...i guess the facts get in the of the truth where fabbs logic is concerned. and no i do not need earl watson with 19 million left on his contract they can keep him
Snugglin with beno?

[Bob Lanier]

Yet another example of Holt's greed: letting long three Damir Markota slip through your fingers for pocket change.

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Damir wins championships.