8 player deal - Warriors/Pacers

[sribb43]

Pacers warriors Trade (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2733891)

Harrington, Jackson at heart of Pacers-Warriors dealESPN.com


The Golden State Warriors have agreed to trade Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Ike Diogu and Keith McLeod to the Indiana Pacers for Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius and Josh Powell, NBA front-office sources tell ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

The trade is scheduled to be announced later Wednesday.

[sribb43]

And after all the Pacers went through to finally trade for Harrington in the offseason, they turn around and dump him, sure he isnt to happy right now

[Texas_Ranger]

Davis, Harrington, Ellis, J-Rich, S-Jax, Jasikevicius....in the same zeam. That is not good in my opinion.

[TDMVPDPOY]

warriors got robbed? hahahhaa fuck

[sribb43]

Diogu will be good for the pacers, Carisle will actually play him since Nellie hates big men. When Montgomery coached GS last year he actually played and had some good moments

[VaSpursFan]

i think this trade really boiled down to 2 players being moved, s. jax and dunleavy. jax has been a distraction to the pacers and they weren't going to keep him. nellie had been railing on dunleavy big time so it' was a matter of before he had to go. don't know who got the better deal...but at least they pulled the trigger and got something done.

[NorCal510]

fab 6 for the warriors..!! oh shit! this trade is the sheezy fo neezy!

[Bob Lanier]

The Warriors got robbed.

Diogu is a better player than Al Harrington right now, Murphy is a rich man's Jeff Foster to shore up the Pacers' frontcourt, and they picked up a versatile swingman in exchange for a pair of sucky, overpaid malcontents (Jackson and Jasikevicius).

And they came up with two rotation-quality white players in exchange for one, which is always a plus in Indiana.

[sribb43]

Nellie wasnt pleased with Dunleavy or Murphy they've been rumored to move for the past month or so

[TDMVPDPOY]

warriors up the ante for small ball?

JO should demand a fuckn trade

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Jasikevicius and Troy Murphy also had ugly contracts that they wanted to move. Other than losing Diogu I think Golden St. got the better end of this deal. Not by much though. Maybe Baron will be traded now.

[NorCal510]

are u guys fuckin idiots? the warriors dumped a bad contract and wasted players for some raw ass players. Nellie will fix their attitudes, warriors will be raw. get with the real yo.

[Phil Hellmuth]

GRanger about to make his name household!!!

[Bob Lanier]

"Raw-ass players"? Al Harrington is a low-percentage chucker who doesn't play defense; Stephen Jackson is a low-percentage chucker who doesn't play defense and is a cancer; Sarunas Jasikevicius is a low-percentage point guard who can't dribble and is slower than Chris Webber.

Good luck with that.

[NorCal510]

bob lainer- come back in here in a month, tha warriors will be BALLLLIN~

[ChumpDumper]

Chuckers flourish in Nellie ball. Bird ends up +1 in white guys.

Win-win.

[ducks]

Report: Harrington, Jackson to Warriors in eight-player deal

January 17, 2007
BRISTOL, CONNECTICUT (TICKER) -- The Indiana Pacers reportedly have traded scorers Al Harrington and Stephen Jackson to the Golden State Warriors on Wednesday in an eight-player deal that netted Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy Jr.

ESPN.com, citing unidentified NBA front office sources, is reporting the deal, which also has guard Sarunas Jasikevicius and forward Josh Powell going to the Warriors and forward Ike Diogu and guard Keith McLeod going to the Pacers.

Both teams are on the fringes of the playoff race.


Golden State (19-20), which has not made the postseason since 1994, is one game behind Denver for the eighth and final spot in the Western Conference. Indiana (20-18), which has not missed the postseason since 1997, is seventh in the East.

[ducks]

murphy and oneal
wow
I wonder if oneal is next!

too bad oneal makes so much..........

[Marcus Bryant]

Too bad the Spurs couldn't have picked up Jack or Murphy.

[ChumpDumper]

Why does Murphy suck now?

[Solid D]

The Warriors are REALLY going to be letting it fly and playing up-tempo now.

[VaSpursFan]

can't wait for the warriors to play phoenix again...that should be a fun game to watch!

[Tobias]

Why does GSW do this trade?? Giving up Dunleavy, Murphy AND Diogu?? They must have super crazy faith in Biedrins (who I like, but not enough to trade Diogu.) GSW just cost themselves a possible playoff birth this season. Sjax and Harrington arent their answers.

[Leetonidas]

I would not have traded Diogu.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Why does Murphy suck now?
Murphy has an ugly contract.

[Tobias]

Everyone signed by Mullin has an ugly contract.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

this came from left field.

no rumours or nothing in the past few days
That shows you how much these experts know. They know as much as we do on future trades.

[Solid D]

Don Nelson got himself some nice 2-man combinations to work with. Saras should be much more comfortable in Nellie's offense. This set of players can really create in space better than Diogu, Murphy and Dunleavy could.

[SequSpur]

SHIT and the spurs still have beno.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Giving up Diogu is tough, but I think it's a good move for Golden St. Harrington is a very good player. Jackson could be good, but will probably get traded or something. He's not making to much money. And Jasikevicius i think only has 1 more year on his contract. And they were tired with Dunleavy. I think Bird thinks he can do something with Dunleavy. He might be right.

[ChumpDumper]

Murphy has an ugly contract.I know, but he used to be a double-double average guy with an ugly contract.

[VaSpursFan]

SHIT and the spurs still have beno.

:lol :lol :lol sad but true...hopefully something is on the horizon for us. seems like teams are willing to pull the trigger now versus waiting. nellie just questioned the efforts of dunleavy and murph a few days ago and they were traded quickly.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I know, but he used to be a double-double average guy with an ugly contract.
Yeah but now they got Harrington and Biedrins.

[Burn531]

From Yahoo Sports:
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/tools/med/2007/01/ipt/1169062187.jpg

:lol :lol

[Leetonidas]

Does anyone think Nellie and Pop are gonna try to make a deal to get Stephen Jackson? I don't see why Nellie wouldn't want him.

[SequSpur]

this should be in the spurs forum... wtf did you lock it for?

[ChumpDumper]

This was here first, stretch.

[Mr. Body]

This takes a potential trade partner off the table for Maggette. There was a lot of speculation Dunleavy might go to the Clippers for Maggs.

[T_MONEY_TX]

how many pgs does golden state got now? ellis, daivs, Jasikevicius, anyone think jasikevicius is staying put or might get traded?

[SoCal Lakeshow]

how many pgs does golden state got now? ellis, daivs, Jasikevicius, anyone think jasikevicius is staying put or might get traded?
I think Baron Davis is gone. They could get a nice piece for him. They already got Monta Ellis and we all know they don't wanna make the playoffs.

[SequSpur]

it will be spurs related chumdumb.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Call 911 that is Rape!!!

[ChumpDumper]

it will be spurs related chumdumb.Then someone else will move it.

In the meantime, go fuck yourself.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Makes no sense.

If he's just giving away players, I'm sure we could spare Beno for SJax. It only makes sense if he's unloading players (who he felt were hurting the team) for nothing. If he thinks he got absolutely anything in this deal he's an idiot. Troy Murphy is alright. But that's about it.

[Mr. Body]

The only people who want Stephen Jackson are a small cadre of Spurstalk fans.

[SequSpur]

Then someone else will move it.

In the meantime, go fuck yourself.

:lol

[SequSpur]

The only people who want Stephen Jackson are a small cadre of Spurstalk fans.

sjax would help the spurs win another championship.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The only people who want Stephen Jackson are a small cadre of Spurstalk fans.

There's an extremely limited selection of strip clubs for him to fire is pistol here.

[Mr. Body]

sjax would help the spurs win another championship.

No he wouldn't. You're stuck in 2003.

[SequSpur]

No he wouldn't. You're stuck in 2003.

He is definitely better than Barry, Finley, Williams, and White...

WTF?

[Mr. Body]

One of the mediocre franchises in the NBA was desperate to get rid of him. You think he'd shine in San Antonio? The guy is a mental case.

WTF?

[ChumpDumper]

Mental cases can thrive in the right situation, but Jack's contract is mighty large.

[SequSpur]

One of the mediocre franchises in the NBA was desperate to get rid of him. You think he'd shine in San Antonio? The guy is a mental case.

WTF?

what, are you more concerned with what goes on in a strip club or what happens on the court?

WTF?

[Bob Lanier]

What does he do on the court? Miss bad shots, refuse to pass, play bad defense, not rebound, rack up technical fouls?

You'd think this were a decent ex-Spur like Speedy Claxton or Antonio Daniels we were talking about instead of a bum like Jackson.

[SequSpur]

What does he do on the court? Miss bad shots, refuse to pass, play bad defense, not rebound, rack up technical fouls?

:dizzy

[BeerIsGood!]

What does he do on the court? Miss bad shots, refuse to pass, play bad defense, not rebound...



Are we talking about Beno now?? :)

[Bob Lanier]

Yeah, except Beno has $2.7 million left on his contract over two years, and Jackson has more than ten times that much over four.

Beno isn't nearly as good a scorer as Jackson, although if you gave him 12 shots a game he could probably hit 40% of them. He's a better passer than Jackson. He's also a slightly better rebounder than Jackson, which is pathetic.

[SequSpur]

ok... oh smart ones... who in the f are you going to get that can put up 20 a night, who goes to church every sunday, who attends every charity event and who will guarantee that this team will win the next 10 championships? I mean wtf? The Spurs have at least 5 shit bags on this team that could be waived today and have no effect on the win loss column...

but everytime someone throws out an idea, all i hear is shit about mental this mental that... missing shots,.... blah blah blah... un fing real.

[BeerIsGood!]

ok... oh smart ones... who in the f are you going to get that can put up 20 a night, who goes to church every sunday, who attends every charity event and who will guarantee that this team will win the next 10 championships? I mean wtf? The Spurs have at least 5 shit bags on this team that could be waived today and have no effect on the win loss column...

but everytime someone throws out an idea, all i hear is shit about mental this mental that... missing shots,.... blah blah blah... un fing real.

DRobs son in 10 years?

[Mr. Body]

Segu- you don't understand. Jackson is not a good player ON THE COURT. He no longer wins games. You're stupid with stats.

[SequSpur]

Segu- you don't understand. Jackson is not a good player ON THE COURT. He no longer wins games. You're stupid with stats.

Sjax playing alongside Parker, Manu and duncan would be awesome again.

Stats don't mean shit when you play for the shitty pacers.

[Mr. Body]

It's worthless arguing with you. Go call Buford and try to explain it to him.

[VaSpursFan]

c. magg is a better fit for the spurs than s. jax. i don't think the spurs would ever consider bringing in jax again...but, stranger things have happened in the universe

[SequSpur]

It's worthless arguing with you. Go call Buford and try to explain it to him.

hmmm.... i just might have a few connections.

[BeerIsGood!]

Sjax playing alongside Parker, Manu and duncan would be awesome again.

Stats don't mean shit when you play for the shitty pacers.

You do have a point. Environment accounts for a lot in a players performace. I just don't know if SA has the right environment for Jax like they did in 2003.

[phxspurfan]

are u guys fuckin idiots? the warriors dumped a bad contract and wasted players for some raw ass players. Nellie will fix their attitudes, warriors will be raw. get with the real yo.


Agreed. That team is going to be all that and a bag of Doritos. Watch out for the new version of the 01 Sacto Kings.




Why does GSW do this trade?? Giving up Dunleavy, Murphy AND Diogu?? They must have super crazy faith in Biedrins (who I like, but not enough to trade Diogu.) GSW just cost themselves a possible playoff birth this season. Sjax and Harrington arent their answers.


Whats funny is that right after I read this, I thought: "there's no way they would intend to keep Jack for long. Who could possibly want such a player?" Then I thought the same thing as this next quote.



Does anyone think Nellie and Pop are gonna try to make a deal to get Stephen Jackson? I don't see why Nellie wouldn't want him.


Spurs FO is likely to make a trade off the coattails of a blockbuster like this. I could see them moving Barry and Beno + cash for Jax or some crap like that.

[MrChug]

Victory Bird.

[ponky]

i think golden state got the better deal

[Mr. Body]

Spurs FO is likely to make a trade off the coattails of a blockbuster like this. I could see them moving Barry and Beno + cash for Jax or some crap like that.

Oh dear God please No.

[zeleni]

Warriors gave up great players who did a lot of damage to the Spurs.

Pacers gave up people who didn't do well with Tinsley starting.

Warriors will get one hell of a small ball mentality, while Pacers will be tall and a juggernaut, but with a stupid playmaker to finish games with. I say lose-lose trade...but both coaches got the players they are most comfortable with in the long run.

[MannyIsGod]

Wow, Barry and Beno for Jax actually makes a decent amount of sense, but I doubt its doable via numbers. Does it work with Ewill in any way?

SJax would put a whole different world of effort for Pop. There's no way he wouldn't. There is probably one franchise in the NBA where he could succeed, and thats the Spurs.

[ChumpDumper]

Wow, Barry and Beno for Jax actually makes a decent amount of sense, but I doubt its doable via numbers.The numbers work fine.

[mountainballer]

is it just me, or is this trade to sophisticated to think it was Mullin on his own? I guess Nelson has taken over also the FO. anyhow, a brilliant move for the Warriors, considering all thoses millions they saved, while getting better for Nelson ball.
I can't see them not working on another trade. the back-court is to crowded. if J-Rich moves to SF (with Sjax also playing SF) at leat Barnes should be available, maybe even Pietrus.
please RC, weak up. work the phones.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Wow, Barry and Beno for Jax actually makes a decent amount of sense, but I doubt its doable via numbers. Does it work with Ewill in any way?

SJax would put a whole different world of effort for Pop. There's no way he wouldn't. There is probably one franchise in the NBA where he could succeed, and thats the Spurs.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=378~42~2448&teams=24~11~11

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

This is good for the Spurs I think.

I'd love for teams to get a little trade-crazy, the Spurs need an active marketplace if they're going to make anything happen.

[ShoogarBear]

Rumor from friends in the Bay Area is that the Warriors are also looking to move Jason Richardson.

[Bruno]

No to Jax.
Spurs need a swingman who plays good D and rebounds well. Jax doesn't do that anymore and his contract is ugly.

[phxspurfan]

No to Jax.
Spurs need a swingman who plays good D and rebounds well. Jax doesn't do that anymore and his contract is ugly.

since when does Jack not play D? When his coach is confident, he's usually put on the opposition's greatest scorer. He also gets to the line a lot (see NBA.com player stats) and is a turnover machine (and we all know pop loves those kinds of guys)

[NorCal510]

warriors will average 120

[Bruno]

since when does Jack not play D?

June 2003.

[RS189]

Indiana tightens its grasp on the whitest team in the nba award

[Kori Ellis]

Rumor from friends in the Bay Area is that the Warriors are also looking to move Jason Richardson.


That's interesting.

What's their plan after this trade for now? AHarrington at the 4 and Ellis/Richardson starting at 2/3 with Barnes/SJax/Pietrius off the bench?

[NorCal510]

Biedrens at the 5
Harrington at the 4
SJax at the 3 until JRich gets healthy
Monte at the 2
Baron at the 1

smmmmmokin!

[Tobias]

as in getting smoked out of games

Meanwhile, Indy is back to being a true contender in the east, stopping their backslide.

[timvp]

Damn, this was a two-way salary dump. Bad contracts for bad contracts. I'll have to digest it to figure out who got the better end of the deal.

However, there's a good chance that Ike Diogu turns out to be the best player in the trade.

[Streakyshooter08]

I would not mind Pietrus or Barnes in SA. GS seems a little thin at the 4/5, SA does not have the assets to make a deal with them. They don't need backcourt players...

A deal that would work out is Pietrus for Oberto.
Another deal would be: Oberto/Udrih/ Williams for Jasikevicius/ Pietrus

[ploto]

Dunleavy may still be on his way to the Clippers--- for Maggette.

According to three NBA executives, the Pacers are now in talks to move Dunleavy to the Los Angeles Clippers for dynamic swingman Corey Maggette. Indiana has been after Maggette since last season when they were looking to trade Ron Artest.
LINK (http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/sports/16487512.htm)

[ShoogarBear]

Dunleavy may still be on his way to the Clippers--- for Maggette.:pctoss