Lakers Vs. Spurs Game Blog

[peskypesky]

The sad thing is Pop will call the team soft and place blame elsewhere, and the media will lap it up.

Hate to agree with an Aggie, but you are right, sir!

[mavsfan1000]

Smart lakers. Leaving Brent wide open.

[ducks]

nice shot by barry

[Tek_XX]

If the Spurs are not dedicated to winning this year why not just tank it.

[Leetonidas]

Tony was fucking pathetic in the 4th... I'm not defending his ass.
Agreed.

[VaSpursFan]

it's fool's gold if we win...we still smell like dumpster juice...we really stink

[fred33]

DON't blame manu tim or tony blame all others spurs players

[ShoogarBear]

Barry 3. Still mathematically in this shitNeed to do some fvcking high-order differential equations, though.

[phxspurfan]

SPURS' championship years RIP


THATs IT! Trade for Rip Hamilton!! That's it!!

[Budkin]

Hmm wonder if Kobe is going to make both of these?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think Tony must seriously learn how making a good fastbreak and plus,a la steve nash assists on these fastbreaks

It's not rocket science, he just goes ball hog sometimes.

[phxspurfan]

kobe ftw

[mavsfan1000]

Kobe=clutch

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

oden is not going to the nba

Silly me, I forgot he won't be drafted, and he'll go to Europe :rolleyes

[Solid D]

The missing Bowen-4-men Tech and Timmy's two missed FTs looming large.

[boutons_]

As is typical, Spur shoot3G 5/20, 25%, and lose.

Spurs have become totally dependent on 3Gs to win.

Tony had his legs, but Spurs get only 13 AST on 33 FGs.

Spurs just really suck.

[E20]

If Byrant goes 1 for 2, then Barry or Manu for the three.

[phxspurfan]

TD for 3, gets fouled

[samikeyp]

All the pictures I've seen of you and your so-called happy group look pretty much like the people in the stands wearing Lakers jerseys. The same people I've sat next to or in the general vicinity of at numerous Spurs games.Your attitude sucks. Maybe you were standing at the outer edges of the frame when the pictures were taken, but you look pretty fat to me, baby....

If the Spurs play like crap, doesn't that deserve to be commented on? And why get personal on people?

[angel_luv]

Miracle time.

[SAtown]

Fuck! Another few days filled with BULLSHIT THREADS and such

[Budkin]

it's fool's gold if we win...we still smell like dumpster juice...we really stink

Agreed... until we make a trade we are going nowhere.

[RashoFan]

It ain't over til the clock runs out, but I think you are done.

[ducks]

spurs should be down three for that stupid t
they could tie it if they make a three

[aaronstampler]

If Tony could have just given it up on a 2 on 1 with Manu, we'd have a 3 point lead and the whole building would be going nuts. That was the play of the game. A 4 point swing and presto, we lost.

We have a point guard who is unwilling and unable to pass the damn ball to the shooting guard. It's fucking ridiculous.

[anonymous coward]

:smokin

[phxspurfan]

lakers win!


topes lose....


topes lose...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

All the pictures I've seen of you and your so-called happy group look pretty much like the people in the stands wearing Lakers jerseys. The same people I've sat next to or in the general vicinity of at numerous Spurs games.Your attitude sucks. Maybe you were standing at the outer edges of the frame when the pictures were taken, but you look pretty fat to me, baby....

Yep, you got me.

That's why I've gone to countless GTGs with the SpursTalk people to watch the games, why I've bitched out the Miami Heat in a pre-season game, why I've gone to the airport to see the Spurs come in more than once, why I sat overnight for Finals tickets in 1999...but it's okay, you're sending positive vibes.

It's okay the Spurs lost by four points because you're positive.

[Pugglekicker_21]

figures

[ducks]

Silly me, I forgot he won't be drafted, and he'll go to Europe :rolleyes

no he is staying at ohio state next year
book it

[IceColdBrewski]

You're an idiot.

Blow me sweetheart. :eyebrows

[peskypesky]

If Tony could have just given it up on a 2 on 1 with Manu, we'd have a 3 point lead and the whole building would be going nuts. That was the play of the game. A 4 point swing and presto, we lost.

We have a point guard who is unwilling and unable to pass the damn ball to the shooting guard. It's fucking ridiculous.

absolutely

[samikeyp]

Ouch. Thought they had this one.

See you on the 28th, LA, well played. :toast

[Budkin]

Lakers own us... Timmy's gonna go mope now.

[ShoogarBear]

If Tony could have just given it up on a 2 on 1 with Manu, we'd have a 3 point lead and the whole building would be going nuts. That was the play of the game. A 4 point swing and presto, we lost.

We have a point guard who is unwilling and unable to pass the damn ball to the shooting guard. It's fucking ridiculous.

Well, at least you're predictable.

[VaSpursFan]

words can't describe the disappointment i feel about this team

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Good win by the Lakeshow!!! :clap :clap

Props to the Spurs for not giving up.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

DON't blame manu tim or tony blame all others spurs players

Tim's defense sucked ass. He deserves as much criticism as anyone.

[ChumpDumper]

If Tony could have just given it up on a 2 on 1 with Manu, we'd have a 3 point lead and the whole building would be going nuts. That was the play of the game. A 4 point swing and presto, we lost.

We have a point guard who is unwilling and unable to pass the damn ball to the shooting guard. It's fucking ridiculous.Oh fuck you.

We lost becuase we're not that good.

[RashoFan]

That was nice seeing Kobe go up to Tim and Tony with the "Good Game" Hugs.

[Quasar]

Oh well... it really seems that out of our Big 3, only Manu really cares about winning (or even remembers how to). He did great... Manu - we back you up!

Tony is still passable in the first 3 quarters, but duncan is getting worse and worse.

He used to carry the team during the first 3 1/2 quarters, but he doesn't even do that anymore.

Where is the good D? Where's the effort and execution? Luckily the spurs still have 1/2 a season to get back to where they should be.

Smush? Turiaf? Bynum? Who are these people scoring clutch baskets on the Spurs?

Props to the Lakers - they've done a great job fighting back into the game.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

we are the 2002-2003 lakers

except much much worse

[phxspurfan]

theres no crying in basketball?!

[Fabbs]

Letting Bryant get the winning foul shots out of the timeout.
Brilliant.

[Leetonidas]

Unless we make a trade soon, we're fucking done. Our bench is terrible.

[BUMP]

:clap :downspin:

nice win for the Lakers but get ready for the ass-whoopin tomorrow

[KB24]

Hey SPURS FANS you've just been OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Maybe you were standing at the outer edges of the frame when the pictures were taken, but you look pretty fat to me, baby....

I fail to see where I've ever denied that.

But then again, you haven't denied being a condescending bitch, either.

[traitoravery]

Lets hope we get our shit together during the road trip or we are screwed!!!! :cry

[aaronstampler]

Well neither are they. If we're so bad and they're so good, how come we made up a 10 point deficit in the 4th in like 2 minutes?

[Budkin]

Fuck! Another few days filled with BULLSHIT THREADS and such

Why not, we suck.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

no he is staying at ohio state next year
book it

Let's. You're as right about him staying in college as you are about Lebron being overrated.

[Jimcs50]

Ouch. Thought they had this one.

See you on the 28th, LA. :toast:


See you in the playoffs Mikey...I will not be watching any more Spurs games for a while. It is Big 12 bball time, and I can not stand to watch Pop ruin my team any more than he has.

[ginobili fan]

It's not rocket science, he just goes ball hog sometimes.

no,he goes ball hog sometimes because he is afraid of making spectacular assists a la nash.
thanks pop.

[RashoFan]

Good game to the Lakers and their fans, good game.

[samikeyp]

That was nice seeing Kobe go up to Tim and Tony with the "Good Game" Hugs.

It was. Say what you will about Kobe but he seems like a good sport.

[phxspurfan]

we are the 2002-2003 lakers

except much much worse


no, we are the 2006-2007 Spurs.


And I am Tiger Woods.

[RC's Boss]

If Tony could have just given it up on a 2 on 1 with Manu, we'd have a 3 point lead and the whole building would be going nuts. That was the play of the game. A 4 point swing and presto, we lost.

We have a point guard who is unwilling and unable to pass the damn ball to the shooting guard. It's fucking ridiculous.
We have a two gaurd that fouled Dirk when he scored and he tied the game that sent us in2 ot and lost during the playoffs. People make mistakes. :rolleyes

[samikeyp]

See you in the playoffs Mikey...I will not be watching any more Spurs games for a while. It is Big 12 bball time, and I can not stand to watch Pop ruin my team any more than he has.

I will see you in the College forum bro. And when the NFL draft comes around, no doubt. :)

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

no,he goes ball hog sometimes because he is afraid of making spectacular assists a la nash.
thanks pop.

Spectacular assist? WTF? A simple bounce pass to Manu would have worked.

He looked at Manu, just chose not to pass it to him. He does it every now and then, just a problem he has.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

If the Spurs play like crap, doesn't that deserve to be commented on? And why get personal on people?

If cqsallie wasn't contradictory as well as a condescending bitch, she'd be sending positive vibes towards my house for me to lose weight.

[samikeyp]

Looks like Kobe is a better sport than some of his fans.

[phxspurfan]

wow suns are 27-2 in last 29 games

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Well neither are they. If we're so bad and they're so good, how come we made up a 10 point deficit in the 4th in like 2 minutes?
Kwame and Odom not playing. Bynum fouled out.

[ShoogarBear]

Perhaps cqsallie should give us an official list of approved and disapproved postings. It would save a lot of time.

[samikeyp]

If cqsallie wasn't contradictory as well as a condescending bitch, she'd be sending positive vibes towards my house for me to lose weight.

Maybe I can get some too for my job search. :)

[fred33]

NOW IT'S EASY TO WIN AGAINST THE SPURS the other team play defense on only 3 players don't blame tony manu or tim BLAME BOWEN FINLEY HORRY OBERTO UDRIH

[ginobili fan]

Spectacular assist? WTF? A simple bounce pass to Manu would have worked.

He looked at Manu, just chose not to pass it to him. He does it every now and then, just a problem he has.

but the problem is that he made this bounce pass to bowen before and it didn't work.So maybe he was afraid :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Perhaps cqsallie should give us an official list of approved and disapproved postings. It would save a lot of time.

I'm not detecting the positive vibes from this post, Bear...maybe their flight from DC got delayed.

[boutons_]

Spurs 5-5 in Last10.

Spurs heading for a 55 - 27 season.

Lakers can't catch Suns, Spurs can't catch Mavs.

Lakers are the team we are most likely to see in first round as 4th/5th seeds. But in the first round, they'll have Lamar back,
and we'll have back .... Francisco! :lol

[Kori Ellis]

NOW IT'S EASY TO WIN AGAINST THE SPURS the other team play defense on only 3 players don't blame tony manu or tim BLAME BOWEN FINLEY HORRY OBERTO UDRIH

I don't know why people have to blame anyone. They are a team. A lot of individual mistakes and poor team play add up to a team loss. It's on the team.

And no one should be bitching about the mistakes in the last couple minutes. The Spurs never needed to be down by 10 with a few minutes to go.

They choked as a team.

[ginobili fan]

NOW IT'S EASY TO WIN AGAINST THE SPURS the other team play defense on only 3 players don't blame tony manu or tim BLAME BOWEN FINLEY HORRY OBERTO UDRIH

I would say BLAME OUR POP THE GENIOUS

[timvp]

This was probably the most frustrating game of the season to date.

-Tim doesn't care.

-Manu only plays fourth quarters.

-Tony choked late.

-Bowen was handling the ball too much.

-Everyone else on the team sucks.

End of story.

[Tek_XX]

Good game to the Lakers and their fans, good game.

Shut the fuck up :pctoss

[Kori Ellis]

Oh and the Spurs fans sucked too.

How come in the last two minutes, the Lakers fans in the crowd were louder booing Tim at the line than the Spurs fans were booing Kobe at the line? :wtf

[Phenomanul]

NOW IT'S EASY TO WIN AGAINST THE SPURS the other team play defense on only 3 players don't blame tony manu or tim BLAME BOWEN FINLEY HORRY OBERTO UDRIH


There.

Fixed it. I'm officially tired of waiting for him to "get out of his slump." HE DOWNRIGHT STINKS!!!! While he was on the floor we managed to get outscored 18 to 4!

[Kori Ellis]

There.

Fixed it. I'm officially tired of waiting for him to "get out of his slump." HE DOWNRIGHT STINKS!!!! While he was on the floor we managed to get outscored 18 to 4!

Yeah, the backup point guard spot is something that we've been waiting forever to get fixed. Seems like it's going to be another season without a decent option.

[fred33]

I don't know why people have to blame anyone. They are a team. A lot of individual mistakes and poor team play add up to a team loss. It's on the team.

And no one should be bitching about the mistakes in the last couple minutes. The Spurs never needed to be down by 10 with a few minutes to go.

They choked as a team. BLAME ALSO POP HE CAN MAKE PLAY THE STARTERS MORE MINUTES TONY CAN MAKE 40 MINUTES AND HIS TEAM AT THE BEGGINING OF THE FOURTH ALWAYS SUCK

[ShoogarBear]

This was probably the most frustrating game of the season to date.

-Tim doesn't care.

-Manu only plays fourth quarters.

-Tony choked late.

-Bowen was handling the ball too much.

-Everyone else on the team sucks.

End of story.Brian Cook Open Dunk.

RIP Spurs Defense.

[angel_luv]

Oh and the Spurs fans sucked too.

How come in the last two minutes, the Lakers fans in the crowd were louder booing Tim at the line than the Spurs fans were booing Kobe at the line? :wtf


Same old story... it's so aggrivating.

I had to leave the game at half time. My room mates were concerned about me being out late with the weather like its been.

[E20]

I'd like to call bullshit on 4 players on the floor tech. That does not warrant a tech and is not against the rules. Highschool basketball follows the rules 10X better than the NBA and that happend against us one time and I even asked the coaches and refs shouldn't they a tech, they said NO>

[samikeyp]

Oh and the Spurs fans sucked too.

How come in the last two minutes, the Lakers fans in the crowd were louder booing Tim at the line than the Spurs fans were booing Kobe at the line?

No shit! Disgraceful.


God, I miss Hemisfair.

[Budkin]

:clap :downspin:

nice win for the Lakers but get ready for the ass-whoopin tomorrow

The Mavs are totally going to steamroll the Lakers tomorrow making this loss even worse. :vomit:

[Slomo]

There.

Fixed it. I'm officially tired of waiting for him to "get out of his slump." HE DOWNRIGHT STINKS!!!! While he was on the floor we managed to get outscored 18 to 4!I'm all for an Udrih trade, but if you think he was the reason for the 18-4 you're due for a rude awakening.

Face it. This team - the whole team - doesn't play well. Sure there are moments of genious from individual players, but as a team we suck right now. And if the whole team play isn't addressed, then no number of trades will help.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

i know it hurts right now, but if you guys want revenge, we will absolutlely, and without mercy, put a texas whoopin on them in 24hrs right here in big :-D......
Don't get too confident. Eventhough you guys should win, remember what happened last time we played each other.

[hitmanyr2k]

Oh and the Spurs fans sucked too.

How come in the last two minutes, the Lakers fans in the crowd were louder booing Tim at the line than the Spurs fans were booing Kobe at the line? :wtf

Maybe the fans in the crowd felt Tim deserved to get booed for looking like he didn't give a shit for most of the game. I've never seen anyone play such half-hearted defense in a big game. He didn't even try to challenge anyone tonight. Leaving guys WIDE OPEN under the rim. Nazr used to get crucified for slow rotations and such but Duncan put Nazr to shame tonight.

[Budkin]

No shit! Disgraceful.


God, I miss Hemisfair.

Agreed. Remember in the 2005 Finals when the team had to plead with the people at the game to make noise? Pathetic.

[timvp]

Brian Cook Open Dunk.

RIP Spurs Defense.

A part of me died on that play.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I'd like to call bullshit on 4 players on the floor tech. That does not warrant a tech and is not against the rules. Highschool basketball follows the rules 10X better than the NBA and that happend against us one time and I even asked the coaches and refs shouldn't they a tech, they said NO>
You do know that some of the rules are different.

[carib]

I have notice this habit for a long time now, all Tim would do is stand under the rim with his hands up. Is it do to the fact that he doesn’t want to pick up fouls, to slow to jump when a player is coming at him, or thinks he is just tall enough to just stand there with his hands in the air.

[samikeyp]

Face it. This team - the whole team - doesn't play well. Sure there are moments of genious from individual players, but as a team we suck right now. And if the whole team play isn't addressed, then no number of trades will help.

Very true. The Spurs could have won this game. The Spurs have the talent to win this and other games but as a unit they are not doing as well as they could be.

A shakeup has to be done but it has to be the right kind. The Spurs can't make a trade for the sole purpose of making a trade. The right trade could mean another title, the wrong one could set the Spurs back even further.

[Phenomanul]

I'm all for an Udrih trade, but if you think he was the reason for the 18-4 you're due for a rude awakening.

Face it. This team - the whole team - doesn't play well. Sure there are moments of genious from individual players, but as a team we suck right now. And if the whole team play isn't addressed, then no number of trades will help.


I agree.

It's just that Udrih has been frustrating me this entire season. And he is the point guard while Parker takes breathers... Us getting outscored while he's on the floor has a lot to do with how he gets the offense rolling. His +/- numbers were good last season... for a point guard they are absolutely terrible this season.

[Kori Ellis]

I'd like to call bullshit on 4 players on the floor tech. That does not warrant a tech and is not against the rules. Highschool basketball follows the rules 10X better than the NBA and that happend against us one time and I even asked the coaches and refs shouldn't they a tech, they said NO>


NBA Rules: Section I-Team
a. Each team shall consist of five players. No team may be reduced to less than five players.

[samikeyp]

I think if a team is down to 4 because of fouls and/or injury then its permissible. I may be wrong...anyone?

[ShoogarBear]

I'd like to call bullshit on 4 players on the floor tech. That does not warrant a tech and is not against the rules. Highschool basketball follows the rules 10X better than the NBA and that happend against us one time and I even asked the coaches and refs shouldn't they a tech, they said NO>Wrong.


c. A technical foul called for (1) delay of game, (2) coaches box violations, (3) defensive 3-seconds, or (4) having a team total of less or more than five players when the ball is alive, or (5) an offensive player hanging on his basket ring or backboard, is not considered an act of unsportsmanlike conduct.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

i just saw the last 8 minutes and geez. besides that spurt to get the game tied, we look flat right now. i'm in dallas, so i hardly get to actually SEE a game. pop looks frustrated and none of the spurs have that fire in their eyes. well, ginobili does, but that's about it. i ain't crapping on our team, but we to shape up before the rodeo road trip.

[ginobili fan]

This was probably the most frustrating game of the season to date.

-Tim doesn't care.

-Manu only plays fourth quarters.

-Tony choked late.

-Bowen was handling the ball too much.

-Everyone else on the team sucks.

End of story.

No the true story is :
-Tim does care but he can't make it anymore in moneytime,the best he can have is FT
-Manu only plays 4th quarters,plus,he isn't succesfull anymore(maybe it was just luck in 2005)
-Tony is just a victim I think,I mean he just does what Pop asks him so in the 4th,he is just a "ball boy".And yeah,he choked
-Bowen was handling the ball too much.Why??????????????, :bang :bang :dizzy :pctoss :bang maybe just because he is our franchise player,he is better than duncan,manu and tony
-POP is a genious
a genious
a genious
a genious
a genious
a genious
a genious
a genious
a genious.I love him so much :elephant :married:

[Kori Ellis]

I think if a team is down to 4 because of fouls and/or injury then its permissible. I may be wrong...anyone?

Yes you are wrong.

If that many people foul out that it gets down to four, they bring back in the first one that fouled out and get assessed a T or something if he fouls again.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Im not the one whos memory you should be concerned about. :lol
Uhhh the Lakers won.

Remember the block on Terry.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

A part of me died on that play.what about that last shot that turiaf made?

[samikeyp]

Yes you are wrong.

If that many people foul out that it gets down to four, they bring back in the first one that fouled out and get assessed a T or something if he fouls again.

oh wow. ok thanks. :)

[Slomo]

I agree.

It's just that Udrih has been frustrating me this entire season. And he is the point guard while Parker takes breathers... Us getting outscored while he's on the floor has a lot to do with how he gets the offense rolling. His +/- numbers were good last season... for a point guard they are absolutely terrible this season.I'm probably as pissed at him as anybody else, but I'm trying to point out that the problems runs a lot deeper than just Beno.

If I could honestly say "take Beno out and we would have won" I'd be confident that a quick solution is possible. But after tonight's game - I can't.

[ShoogarBear]

I think if a team is down to 4 because of fouls and/or injury then its permissible. I may be wrong...anyone?

a. Each team shall consist of five players. No team may be reduced to less than five players. If a player in the game receives his sixth personal foul and all substitutes have already been disqualified, said player shall remain in the game and shall be charged with a personal and team foul. A technical foul also shall be assessed against his team. All subsequent personal fouls, including offensive fouls, shall be treated similarly. All players who have six or more personal fouls and remain in the game shall be treated similarly.
b. In the event that there are only five eligible players remaining and one of these players is injured and must leave the game or is ejected, he must be replaced by the last player who was disqualified by reason of receiving six personal fouls. Each subsequent requirement to replace an injured or ejected player will be treated in this inverse order. Any such re-entry into a game by a disqualified player shall be penalized by a technical foul.
c. In the event that a player becomes ill and must leave the court while the ball is in play, the official will stop play immediately when his team gains new possession. The player shall be replaced and no technical foul will be assessed. The opposing team is also permitted to substitute one player.

[Kori Ellis]

what about that last shot that turiaf made?

We both died a little on that play. I was screaming at the TV.

Thank goodness I didn't go to this game.

[Kori Ellis]

That's for the rule clarification, Shoog. I knew it was something like that.

[ShoogarBear]

A part of me died on that play.I called it the Worst Play of the Year when it happened.

Now that I think about it, it may be the Worst Play of the last 5 years.

[Phenomanul]

Very true. The Spurs could have won this game. The Spurs have the talent to win this and other games but as a unit they are not doing as well as they could be.

A shakeup has to be done but it has to be the right kind. The Spurs can't make a trade for the sole purpose of making a trade. The right trade could mean another title, the wrong one could set the Spurs back even further.


We can't trade Barry unless his salary is absolutely needed to get all-star caliber player in return.

His ability to knock down the occasional clutch 3 pointer is the reason we need to treat him more like Kerr than like some 'old white swingman'. There aren't many Barry type players in the league. If only he play up to his potential every night though.... with a little more aggresiveness and la little less tentativeness on his 'open' looks.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

We both died a little on that play. I was screaming at the TV.

Thank goodness I didn't go to this game.tim just..............................stood there. i wish he'd play the game and quit waiting for the foul to be called. that really aggrevates the hell out of me.

[ShoogarBear]

That's for the rule clarification, Shoog. I knew it was something like that.Did you like how I was able to type it out that fast from memory, too?

[Winnipeg_Spur]

There's no such thing as a good loss, but that was a bad one...

The worst thing about the game was it didn't look like a fluke, either. The Lakers looked like the better team. In San Antonio. Without Brown (who actually gives Timmy problems) or Odom (who's a nightmare matchup for us). Not good.

[Kori Ellis]

Did you like how I was able to type it out that fast from memory, too?

Yes, very very impressive :)

[Kori Ellis]

We can't trade Barry unless his salary is absolutely needed to get all-star caliber player in return.

His ability to knock down the occasional clutch 3 pointer is the reason we need to treat him more like Kerr than like some 'old white swingman'. There aren't many Barry type players in the league. If only he play up to his potential every night though.... with a little more aggresiveness and less tentative on his 'open' shots.

To me, everyone on the whole team can be traded right now if it makes good basketball sense to do so. Though, any trade with Tim, Manu, Tony or Bruce probably doesn't. So I guess those players are out of the mix.

[Budkin]

There's no such thing as a good loss, but that was a bad one...

The worst thing about the game was it didn't look like a fluke, either. The Lakers looked like the better team. In San Antonio. Without Brown (who actually gives Timmy problems) or Odom (who's a nightmare matchup for us). Not good.

Hell we got blown out by a Bulls team missing its best defenders the other night. What did you expect? For us to play like we wanted it?

[Phenomanul]

To me, everyone on the whole team can be traded right now if it makes good basketball sense to do so. Though, any trade with Tim, Manu, Tony or Bruce probably doesn't. So I guess those players are out of the mix.


I guess what I'm trying to say is that the FO should dangle our other assets first before dangling Barry as trade bait (outside of the Big 4 of course).

Scola's rights,
Williams' expiring contract
Butler
White
Beno

even
Horry
and
Finley.

[Budkin]

Please don't let us trade Butler or White... both those guys have tons of potential... and they are young for Christ's sake!

[KB24]

Hey SPURS FANS !!!!!!

It Takes 5
But you’re not a FOOL !!!
ARE YOU?

[Kori Ellis]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the FO should dangle our other assets first before dangling Barry as trade bait (outside of the Big 4 of course).

Scola's rights,
Williams' expiring contract
Butler
White
Beno

even
Horry
and
Finley.

Scola's rights, they've been dangling for years. I don't think anyone is taking the risk. Williams' contract combined with another player might be worth something to someone. I'm not sure Butler or White are worth anything to anyone. Beno has been being shopped for years. Hopefully someone eventually bites.

Horry, I'm not sure about. Finley is probably being dangled as much as Barry but more teams would probably take Barry right now.

The Spurs need to try to pluck players from Seattle. They don't want to keep both Watson and Ridnour. They are dangling Damien Wilkins, Johan Petro. Even Ray and Rashard can be had (though I don't know if the Spurs would want their level of contract).

[Mr. Body]

But the Spurs are hamstringed by this crazy need to not take on contracts beyond next year...

[Phenomanul]

Scola's rights, they've been dangling for years. I don't think anyone is taking the risk. Williams' contract combined with another player might be worth something to someone. I'm not sure Butler or White are worth anything to anyone. Beno has been being shopped for years. Hopefully someone eventually bites.

Horry, I'm not sure about. Finley is probably being dangled as much as Barry but more teams would probably take Barry right now.

The Spurs need to try to pluck players from Seattle. They don't want to keep both Watson and Ridnour. They are dangling Damien Wilkins, Johan Petro. Even Ray and Rashard can be had (though I don't know if the Spurs would want their level of contract).


Interesting.... Ridnour or Watson as Parker's sub....

[ShoogarBear]

Earl Watson wouldn't be a cure all by any means, but he would sure stop some of the bleeding.

[dg7md]

I'd like Watson here, I doubt Ridnour leaves Seattle.

[Mr. Body]

Interesting.... Ridnour or Watson as Parker's sub....

See above. Watson is very expensive and his contract runs for too many years (for this Spurs' FO).

[Kori Ellis]

Interesting.... Ridnour or Watson as Parker's sub....

They probably both make too much money for the Spurs to consider them for backup point. But I was just throwing that out there. There's plenty of teams looking to move players.

[timvp]

I called it the Worst Play of the Year when it happened.

Now that I think about it, it may be the Worst Play of the last 5 years.

Yeah, usually I don't start caring until the playoffs, but that was just a disgrace.

It was a slap in the face to the fans and the jerseys hanging in the rafters. If the Spurs don't feel like playing hard and the coaches don't feel like managing a game at least to the point where you have the right number of players on the court, just stop the game and go home.

[samikeyp]

Yeah, usually I don't start caring until the playoffs, but that was just a disgrace.

It was a slap in the face to the fans and the jerseys hanging in the rafters. If the Spurs don't feel like playing hard and the coaches don't feel like managing a game at least to the point where you have the right number of players on the court, just stop the game and go home.

Well said.

[Phenomanul]

And then there's the rebounding problem...

[v2freak]

I wonder why people are still trying to trade Barry. Most likely if the FO trades a different player (like Beno and Barry gets time at point), he'll be fine. We've seen Barry with the capability to produce when he's given time.

As for Duncan, his subpar rebounding and aggression on defense are certainly raising flags. He had 4 blocked shots early on, but then he just watched dunk after dunk after dunk. He also missed critical free throws

Bowen took some poor shots

Ginobili likes to shoot and handle in the fourth. Sometimes it's good, sometimes, not so much

Parker's 2 on 1 break was pretty bad

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

We can't trade Barry unless his salary is absolutely needed to get all-star caliber player in return.

His ability to knock down the occasional clutch 3 pointer is the reason we need to treat him more like Kerr than like some 'old white swingman'.

No, we don't need back an All-Star. Just someone that makes the team better (which wouldn't take much).

Calling Brent Barry clutch is about like calling Beno a solid backup point. Come on man...

[Kori Ellis]

The Warriors are jammed at the swingspots now after this trade. Ellis/JRich/Pietrus/SJax/Barnes. Maybe something can happen there.

[Phenomanul]

Yeah, usually I don't start caring until the playoffs, but that was just a disgrace.

It was a slap in the face to the fans and the jerseys hanging in the rafters. If the Spurs don't feel like playing hard and the coaches don't feel like managing a game at least to the point where you have the right number of players on the court, just stop the game and go home.


How does something like that even happen? It's a pee-wee league type of blunder....

[ShoogarBear]

And then there's the rebounding problem...That's started the year as the #1 or #1A problem.

Now's it's probably been bumped down to #5 or #6.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I wonder why people are still trying to trade Barry. Most likely if the FO trades a different player (like Beno and Barry gets time at point), he'll be fine. We've seen Barry with the capability to produce when he's given time.

Yep, we have. If the game doesn't matter, he's money. IF it's important (post season, regular season big games), he builds a house of bricks.

Damn, what is it with Spurs fans overvaluing scrub bench players?

[Kori Ellis]

I wonder why people are still trying to trade Barry

Those people are in the Spurs FO.

[Phenomanul]

The Warriors are jammed at the swingspots now after this trade. Ellis/JRich/Pietrus/SJax/Barnes. Maybe something can happen there.

Barnes...

He can at least stroke the 3... and they probably wouldn't want to take another swingman like Barry.

Williams expiring contract straight up for (Barnes + Cash)...

[timvp]

And then there's the rebounding problem...

Here is a little nugget to help Spurs fans rest easy:

The Mavs this year are 27-1 when they outrebound their opponents.

That Mavs have outrebounded the Spurs in 13 straight games.

Add that up. :oink

[Mr. Body]

Barnes only makes like 0.7 million dollars.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Barnes...

He can at least stroke the 3... and they probably wouldn't want to take another swingman like Barry.

Williams expiring contract straight up for (Barnes + Cash)...

Dude, just stop.

Pietrus > Barnes.

[Mr. Body]

... Which is crazy because Eric Williams makes $4 million and doesn't do jack shit.

[v2freak]

Yep, we have. If the game doesn't matter, he's money. IF it's important (post season, regular season big games), he builds a house of bricks.

Damn, what is it with Spurs fans overvaluing scrub bench players?

How many times has Barry been given the responsibility of taking an important shot at the end? The bouncing 3 pointer against the scary Kings last year comes to mind. That shot changed the momentum of the series

[Phenomanul]

Dude, just stop.

Pietrus > Barnes.


Yeah but the Warriors won't just let a talent like Pietrus go... Barnes would seem like an easier target to obtain. One that could help just the same.

[Kori Ellis]

Dude, just stop.

Pietrus > Barnes.

Stats
Barnes -11.4p 5r 2a in 26mpg - 41% from 3
Pietrus - 13.7 5r <1a in 31mpg - 38% from 3

Barnes = more bang for your buck

Plus the Spurs have always been high on him.

[sprrs]

I'm not too dissapointed with the loss. We just got EXTREMELY careless with the ball, it seemed like we had a turnover every time down the court, and still managed to come back from a ten point deficit. If the same team that showed up in the fourth (minus the turnovers) shows up in the playoffs, we're set.

[Phenomanul]

Here is a little nugget to help Spurs fans rest easy:

The Mavs this year are 27-1 when they outrebound their opponents.

That Mavs have outrebounded the Spurs in 13 straight games.

Add that up. :oink

:depressed

Can we still tank the season and have a shot at Oden?

:toast

[ShoogarBear]

The Warriors are jammed at the swingspots now after this trade. Ellis/JRich/Pietrus/SJax/Barnes. Maybe something can happen there.It's an interesting situation.

JRich is injured, doesn't play D, and makes too much, but I've heard rumors the Warriors want to move him. And he sucks at free throws.

Ellis is too small, and Nellie loves him.

Pietrus is probably the most likely of the bunch to be pried loose by the Spurs, although I think he's the most limited.

I suspect SJax is unlikely, although I think if he's willing to accept fewer minutes he'd do a good job on both ends of the court back under Pop's coaching.

[Kori Ellis]

An almost off topic question ..

Where's Zarko Cabarkapa? Why is he not on the Warriors roster, but they are still paying him?

[timvp]

I suspect SJax is unlikely, although I think if he's willing to accept fewer minutes he'd do a good job on both ends of the court back under Pop's coaching.

I hate Jack's contract but if it's him or nothing, bring him back to San Antonio.

[SequSpur]

I hate Jack's contract but if it's him or nothing, bring him back to San Antonio.

exactly.

[Solid D]

I called it the Worst Play of the Year when it happened.

Now that I think about it, it may be the Worst Play of the last 5 years.

ShoogarBear almost caught me saying a worty dird on Timmy's slipshod D allowing Cookie to score unabated.

[LEONARD]

The Spurs are obviously in decline...

Great game :fro

[ploto]

An almost off topic question ..

Where's Zarko Cabarkapa? Why is he not on the Warriors roster, but they are still paying him?
He had back surgery. He'll probably be out the rest of the season.

[bdictjames]

:depressed

Can we still tank the season and have a shot at Oden?

:toast
Seriously, are you a Kings fan? :lol

[shayne mccrackhead]

haha, called it, u guys lost again, i see the 4th season for u guys. You'll get the lakers, at the 5, and will lose 4-3.

[Solid D]

haha, called it, u guys lost again, i see the 4th season for u guys. You'll get the lakers, at the 5, and will lose 4-3.

Let me help you with your sentence there slick. "4th seed".

[1Parker1]

I'd just like to put in my 2 cents, a little late I know.

Spurs obviously have issues. I haven't seen another player step up outside of our Big Three in quite some time, it's actually sickening. Props to Barry for at least hitting that go ahead 3 pointer. Spurs are not the Spurs, I'm sure they realize it now more than ever.

Second thing, HOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY SHIT is Kobe Bryant an amazing player. I know everyone is always pimping him, but I don't think Bruce Bowen could have played any better defense on the guy yesterday. He was just making unbelievable shots like it was the easiest thing in the world. If there was any doubt who the best NBA player in the league is right now, I think he's established it. Wade has the speed and power to drive to the hole and get amazing layups and shots. Lebron has the speed and agility to muscle his way into fast break dunks...BUT Kobe not only can do both of those things, he has the sweetest fadaway I've seen in a while. I just may jump on the Kobe bandwagon after the way he's been playing this season. :oops

(watch him go 5-26 tonight against the Mavs...:lol)

[Solid D]

is Kobe Bryant an amazing player.

He really is. He's the reason the Lakers are seldom ever out of a game. There have been a couple of games when Phil has taken Kobe out and semi-waved the white flag but usually, no lead is safe for opposing teams.

Kobe's as close to Jordan as any player I know of.

[Medvedenko]

Kobe is playing a lot more balanced this year....some game he goes on the distributor role too much and some games he shoots too much. However these games are far from frequent and he's balanced it a lot better. Nice to see Radman hit a few big shots last night. He's slowly turning it around. Everyone thought that since Odom was out that Kobe would average 40 p/g however he's upped his assists and kept his shots per game on the level.

[1Parker1]

Kobe's as close to Jordan as any player I know of.


Seriously, that's the thing that amazed me most last night (aside from the Spurs losing :lol). I know everyone usually debates this back and forth about Kobe being the next Jordan or is it Wade, Lebron, etc. But Kobe's game while obviously not MJ level, very closely resembles it. I seriously had some nice flashbacks to watching MJ in his young days as I watched Kobe make those crazy fadaways with Bowen right on top of him. I don't think anyone could have played better defense on Kobe last night than Bowen did, but the guy just made amazing shots.

Crazy thing is, now that he's passing and taking over games, I actually enjoy watching the Lakers play (just not against the SPurs....)

[td4mvp21]

^I agree, I don't hate the Lakers anymore, I enjoy watching them play. They have excellent ball movement and of course Kobe is amazing.

[1Parker1]

What'll be interesting is how they play once they get back Lamar Odom. Cook, Evans, and Radmanavic have been playing great for them. Obviouslt incorporating Lamar back in will be an adjustment. They obviously won't win the West, but they'll give any team a long series.