Mavs/Lakers

[mabber]

Think the Mavs will cover the 9.5 pt spread?

It's a revenge game and the Lakers played a tough game last night so I'm thinking they'll be able to cover it. Lakers have a lot of young guys though and playing back-to-back might not really bother them.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Back to back games. Lakers are injured. Mavs should win. But I wouldn't bet on the game either way. Kobe does love to play against the Mavs. :devil

[ponky]

the btb won't hurt them in the least, they will be ready to play...especially because they had limited minutes last night and were very efficient with those minutes. we need to come out and get ahead for a change, drive it to the lane, pick up some fouls on the turiaf and bynum early. the lakers, even as a young team, don't get discouraged so we need to bring our A game tonight.

[Fillmoe]

ill pull my kobe jersey out from the back of the closet tonight

[SoCal Lakeshow]

They will be somewhat tired, but not like usual. They have something to prove against the Texas teams. But Dallas does need to bring their "A" game. Expect Devon George to have a big game.




Then give up some bonehead plays in the 4th.

[mabber]

the btb won't hurt them in the least, they will be ready to play...especially because they had limited minutes last night and were very efficient with those minutes. we need to come out and get ahead for a change, drive it to the lane, pick up some fouls on the turiaf and bynum early. the lakers, even as a young team, don't get discouraged so we need to bring our A game tonight.

I can't recall the last time that happened :lol :wtf

[ponky]

I can't recall the last time that happened :lol :wtf

haha, me neither...it's been a loooooooooong time, we're overdue for one of those type of games!
:hungry: :hungry: :hungry: :hungry: :hungry: :hungry:

[Amarelooms]

haha, me neither...it's been a loooooooooong time, we're overdue for one of those type of games!
:hungry: :hungry: :hungry: :hungry: :hungry: :hungry:


Hey everyone....PONKY IS NAKED IN BED RIGHT NOW!!!! VERY NICE....HIGH FIVE :downspin:

[Budkin]

Mavs will win this by 10 at least.

[2Cleva]

LA plays Dallas better than anyone else. They have been without Odom both games this season and both were close contests. This one will go down to the wire as well.

[mabber]

LA plays Dallas better than anyone else. They have been without Odom both games this season and both were close contests. This one will go down to the wire as well.

You're probably right.

[Medvedenko]

good luck mavs....should be a fun game.

[Bookit]

LA plays Dallas better than anyone else. They have been without Odom both games this season and both were close contests. This one will go down to the wire as well.

You are right. It might have something to do with Kobe always playing insane against us. :bang

[LakeShow]

It should be a good game and I'm sure the Mavs will be at their best. It will be a tough game for the lakers to pull out tonight but GO LAKERS!

[LEONARD]

I'd take the Lakers and the 9.5 pts...that's a lot of points...

[mabber]

It should be a good game and I'm sure the Mavs will be at their best. It will be a tough game for the lakers to pull out tonight but GO LAKERS!

Even though the Lakers always seem to play us tough, I'd be really surprised if the Mavs didn't win tonight. The Mavs are 18-3 at home and 4-0 or 5-0 on revenge games against teams that had beat them earlier in the season. Plus, they were really aggravated after that Laker loss a couple of weeks ago. They thought they just gave that away. They've talked about it ever since.

I have no clue if they'll cover the 9.5 pts though. NBA is a tough sport to bet on.

[LakeShow]

Even though the Lakers always seem to play us tough, I'd be really surprised if the Mavs didn't win tonight. The Mavs are 18-3 at home and 4-0 or 5-0 on revenge games against teams that had beat them earlier in the season. Plus, they were really aggravated after that Laker loss a couple of weeks ago. They thought they just gave that away. They've talked about it ever since.

I have no clue if they'll cover the 9.5 pts though. NBA is a tough sport to bet on.

I agree. I would like to say the lakers will win tonight with confidence but I can not. If I were a betting man, I would not touch that bet even with the spread. Now if it were in LA, I'll take that bet every time. :lol

[mabber]

I agree. I would like to say the lakers will win tonight with confidence but I can not. If I were a betting man, I would not touch that bet even with the spread. Now if it were in LA, I'll take that bet every time. :lol

Hope that little 16 year-old looking white kid (Sasha...) doesn't have another career night against us like he did in LA.

[LakeShow]

Hope that little 16 year-old looking white kid (Sasha...) doesn't have another career night against us like he did in LA.

For the lakers to get a victory, he might have to. :)

[1Parker1]

Mavs kill the Lakers.

Meanwhile, Spurs fans wonder how that is the same team that beat them 24 hours earlier.

[Jerry Stackhouse]

I'm going to tank tonight for the Lakers. Kobe is my hero and I want him to win.

[Axl Van Dam]

:toast Lakers by 10 :toast

[Fillmoe]

kobe is getting everyone involved early.........

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Lets go Lakers!!! :clap :clap :clap

[SoCal Lakeshow]

No Odom = No boards against good teams

[Fillmoe]

jordan fartmar is tearing up the mavs

[Solid D]

Dallas went small, so Phil tried to match with a smaller lineup and without Kobe. Dallas grabs the lead.

[Phil Jackson]

we cant beat them on their own court. they are just too good

[SoCal Lakeshow]

we cant beat them on their own court. they are just too good
Not if we keep giving up all those offensive boards.

[boutons_]

14 ORB. The close score doesn't how little a chance the Lakers have.

Bynum and Cook have lots of lenght but will never be any good if they don't learn some hustle and intensity. They play like it's a summer pickup game, mosying up and down the court.

[Fillmoe]

Not if we keep giving up all those offensive boards.

huh?

[SoCal Lakeshow]

huh?
Watch the game.

[1Parker1]

Dallas went small, so Phil tried to match with a smaller lineup and without Kobe. Dallas grabs the lead.


I don't think there's any team in the league that can counter that move by AJ. It worked for them in the Houston game as well.

Is it just me or does this Mavs team remind you of the 2005 Spurs team?

1) Dirk playing like Duncan: virtually unguardable.

2) Howard playing like Ginobili: this was when Ginobili took that extra step and became an ALL-STAR level player. Howard, similiar to Ginobili is the Mavs sparkplug and energizer. He does all the little things on the floor.

3) Terry playing like Parker: Getting his shots in, but letting the other two get there's during crunch time. He's not exactly a "pure PG" like Parker.

4) Harris playing like Bowen: This may be the only stretcher, but Harris is considered the Mavs "Defensive stopper" in a way. He's always taking the charge, defending the opposing players best guard, etc.

5) Diop playing like Nazr: Remember when we first got Nazr in 05? Dude was playing great. Blocking shots, grabbing offensive rebounds, getting to the line occassionally. Diop plays the better defense, but he still has the Nazr affect in the middle.

6) Devean George playing like Brent Barry: Coming in shooting the three pointers, playing smart basketball, etc.


Only question remains: Who's going to be their Robert Horry? :smokin

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I don't think there's any team in the league that can counter that move by AJ.
The Lakeshow can when healthy.

[1Parker1]

PS. Damn, Kobe's doing it again tonight against the Mavs.

[1Parker1]

The Lakeshow can when healthy.

Perhaps. But they don't have anyone to stop Howard.

[BUMP]

I don't think there's any team in the league that can counter that move by AJ. It worked for them in the Houston game as well.

Is it just me or does this Mavs team remind you of the 2005 Spurs team?

1) Dirk playing like Duncan: virtually unguardable.

2) Howard playing like Ginobili: this was when Ginobili took that extra step and became an ALL-STAR level player. Howard, similiar to Ginobili is the Mavs sparkplug and energizer. He does all the little things on the floor.

3) Terry playing like Parker: Getting his shots in, but letting the other two get there's during crunch time. He's not exactly a "pure PG" like Parker.

4) Harris playing like Bowen: This may be the only stretcher, but Harris is considered the Mavs "Defensive stopper" in a way. He's always taking the charge, defending the opposing players best guard, etc.
5) Diop playing like Nazr: Remember when we first got Nazr in 05? Dude was playing great. Blocking shots, grabbing offensive rebounds, getting to the line occassionally. Diop plays the better defense, but he still has the Nazr affect in the middle.

6) Devean George playing like Brent Barry: Coming in shooting the three pointers, playing smart basketball, etc.


Only question remains: Who's going to be their Robert Horry? :smokin

Harris plays more like Parker. we dont have a Bowen but we have long athletic defenders.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Perhaps. But they don't have anyone to stop Howard.
Nobody can really stop Howard, but we can throw Kobe and Evans at him to slow him down. The Lakers have a deep team and can match up with many different teams many different ways.

[Amarelooms]

Trade AJ AT HALFTIME...HIS STOCK WILL NEVER BE HIGHER

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Charles hates the Lakers so much it's funny. :lol

[LB7]

Trade AJ AT HALFTIME...HIS STOCK WILL NEVER BE HIGHER
I actually laughed at this loomsy

[1Parker1]

Mavs look sick. This bites.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Another win already wrapped up for my Mavs! Im already celebrating the night with beer already wooooooooooooooo. I LOVE THESE FUCKERS! :elephant

[dirk4mvp]

Shit, I missed the first half due to practice. maybe I should quit playing basketball to watch Mavs games.......


I did see a highlight of Damp getting dunked on by Kobe though :lol

[1Parker1]

Kobe deferring waaaay too much. He shoulda just taken over.

Mavs every shot is falling and their rare miss they are getting offensive rebounds. Sick.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I think Dallas is still mad about the last time we played. They are giving it to the Lakers.

[1Parker1]

^Probably.

I wonder how this game would have gone if it was the other way around and the Lakers played the Mavs in the first part of the back to back and the Spurs the second night.

[dirk4mvp]

The 2nd half been a shootout so far. Just what I like to see.

[dirk4mvp]

Damn....if they miss, it's an O reb. or it goes out on the lakers :lol

[TheMulvany]

LOL @ the Lakers fans here that think the Lakers can hang with the Mavs when they're healthy.

The Lakers are one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA....and by the way, nice road record.

[dirk4mvp]

So pretty so pretty!

[dirk4mvp]

So pretty so pretty!

[1Parker1]

20 point lead.

It's ovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Why the F*$k is Kobe passing so much!?

[1Parker1]

I can't believe this is the same team that beat the Spurs last night.

Wow.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Mavs are taking names and kicking ass. The one has been over for quite some time and that is 19 out of 20 wins now!!! BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID!!!!!!!!!!!

[SoCal Lakeshow]

LOL @ the Lakers fans here that think the Lakers can hang with the Mavs when they're healthy.

The Lakers are one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA....and by the way, nice road record.
:lol At Mavs fans that underestimate the Lakers.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Goes to show the gap between the Mavs and the 'other' western teams.

Lakers blow into San Antonio and beat them and then get blown out in Dallas

Mavs and Suns are on a whole other level

[dirk4mvp]

:lol At Mavs fans that underestimate the Lakers.


82-57

[SoCal Lakeshow]

No Laker fans expected to win this game. But keep telling yourselves that this is the real Laker team and titles are won in January.

[dirk4mvp]

Kwame is the X-factor then?

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Kwame is the X-factor then?
Lamar

[Fillmoe]

Kwame is the X-factor then?


you forget about odom?

[dirk4mvp]

Oh, forgot about egghead. The Mavs are still heaps better than the Lakers with those guys.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Oh, forgot about egghead. The Mavs are still heaps better than the Lakers with those guys.
We will see, but stop patting yourselves on the back for a win against a depleted Laker team on the second night of a back to back in January.

[dirk4mvp]

I'm not patting myself on the back. I'm stating an opinion. And hey, I bet you know it's January since you've mentioned it so much.

[Mavs Fan In Egypt]

^o, youre suddenly less confident then about an hour ago?

[dirk4mvp]

January......month after December, but before February.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I'm not patting myself on the back. I'm stating an opinion. And hey, I bet you know it's January since you've mentioned it so much.
I keep trying to remind you. 'Cause you're acting like you found a golden ticket.

[Fillmoe]

i hope the lakeshow comes back and wins...... mavs are prone to chocking so it could happen

[Tradition]

Oh, forgot about egghead. The Mavs are still heaps better than the Lakers with those guys.

Heaps better??? While I agree you would beat us in a series this year, dont act like you would sweep us. We have the team to give you a run for your money. You havent seen Odom played this year before he got hurt did you? :rolleyes This team is better then what you give em credit for, and I wouldnt use the 3 meetings against a depleted Laker team to judge how good they are.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

^o, youre suddenly less confident then about an hour ago?
Read the posts smart guy. I don't think you'll find any Laker fan that thought they could win this game.

[dirk4mvp]

So would Odom help yall stop from getting killed on the offensive boards? :lol

[Tradition]

So would Odom help yall stop from getting killed on the offensive boards? :lol
Him and Kwame would of helped alot more.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

So would Odom help yall stop from getting killed on the offensive boards? :lol
Uhhh, yeah he is our best rebounder by far.

[dirk4mvp]

i hope the lakeshow comes back and wins...... mavs are prone to chocking so it could happen


and the kings are known for not winning games.....

[DubMcDub]

Mavs dont have one of their starters either. Boo hoo Lakers playing the injury card.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Mavs dont have one of their starters either. Boo hoo Lakers playing the injury card.
Not playing the injury card, just letting you know before you start fitting yourselves for rings.

[Amarelooms]

Not playing the injury card, just letting you know before you start fitting yourselves for rings.

Son get with the program the Lakers are NOT beating anyone..this includes the SUNS and Mavs who will OWN THE SHIT OUT OF EM. Now get the fuck outta here and spank it to Kobe

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Son get with the program the Lakers are NOT beating anyone..this includes the SUNS and Mavs who will OWN THE SHIT OUT OF EM. Now get the fuck outta here and spank it to Kobe
Go watch those Finals games from last year again and pretend you guys didn't choke like lil bitches.

[sribb43]

I dont want to hear excuses for the back to back for the lakers. the mavs are 9-0 on the 2nd nights of back to backs and that includes road wins @ phx and @ spurs on the 2nd night. Elilte teams know how to win games no matter when there played. the lakers arent quite on that level yet

[sribb43]

Go watch those Finals games from last year again and pretend you guys didn't choke like lil bitches.
and what did the lake show do last year, blow a 3-1 lead against the suns

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I dont want to hear excuses for the back to back for the lakers. the mavs are 9-0 on the 2nd nights of back to backs and that includes road wins @ phx and @ spurs on the 2nd night. Elilte teams know how to win games no matter when there played. the lakers arent quite on that level yet
Nobody said the Lakers are elite. And they're not. I just laugh at all the Dallas fans that think they're already in the Finals.

[Jerry Stackhouse]

Mavs just have too much for the lakers tonight. George and Buckner are the best defenders against Kobe not named Bowen. Maybe add Prince in as well but I think we got a very solid defense. I Avery realized I was going to tank and took me out. Nice to have a computer at halfcourt.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

and what did the lake show do last year, blow a 3-1 lead against the suns
Yeah when we were a 7 seed. So how exactly are the Suns so much better than us.

[StylisticS]

Farmer>>>>Parker..When will the Lakers insert him in the starting lineup?

[LakeShow]

I dont want to hear excuses for the back to back for the lakers. the mavs are 9-0 on the 2nd nights of back to backs and that includes road wins @ phx and @ spurs on the 2nd night. Elilte teams know how to win games no matter when there played. the lakers arent quite on that level yet

Elite teams with 2 starters out? Don't be stupid!

[dirk4mvp]

Nobody said the Lakers are elite. And they're not. I just laugh at all the Dallas fans that think they're already in the Finals.

Where did a mav fan say they're already in the finals?

[LakeShow]

No Laker fans expected to win this game. But keep telling yourselves that this is the real Laker team and titles are won in January.

I certainly wasn't expecting a victory tonight. The odds were against it. It is no secret that the Lakers need to be at full strength to beat the Mavs, in Dallas!

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Where did a mav fan say they're already in the finals?
Maybe not you per say. In fact maybe it's more Suns fans than anything else. But all I see is threads about how either the Suns or Mavs are already in the Finals.

[dirk4mvp]

Maybe not you per say. In fact maybe it's more Suns fans than anything else. But all I see is threads about how either the Suns or Mavs are already in the Finals.


just people making assumptions because they have the 2 best records in the west.

[dirk4mvp]

:lmao at Kobe missing a dunk and AJ dunking on the other end!

[Amarelooms]

Maybe not you per say. In fact maybe it's more Suns fans than anything else. But all I see is threads about how either the Suns or Mavs are already in the Finals.

You might be right but one thing is for sure...the Kobe Lakers WILL NOT be in the WCF let alone the Finals

[SoCal Lakeshow]

You might be right but one thing is for sure...the Kobe Lakers WILL NOT be in the WCF let alone the Finals
I don't think any Laker fans think they will be. We are way to young, Bynum is not ready for the big time, and we need a better PG.

[TheMulvany]

Who cares if the Lakers are young? They'll always be a bad defensive team. Have fun giving up 110 points per game for a decade.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Who cares if the Lakers are young? They'll always be a bad defensive team. Have fun giving up 110 points per game for a decade.
Put down the crack pipe.

[mavsfan1000]

Payback is a bitch. Kobe got owned tonight.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Payback is a bitch. Kobe got owned tonight.
Yes it was ugly. Now go beat the Suns.

[LakeShow]

Payback is a bitch. Kobe got owned tonight.

hahaha,...yeah after a back to back and no chance to prepare for the mavs.

Back to backs are a disadvantage to all teams. You have no chance to prepare for your opponent while the Mavs had plenty of time to prepare for the Lakers.

[trueD]

Okay, Kobe comes into the game what, 19 behind, and passes off to Farmar, wtf?

Kobe missing that dunk was golden, did you see him smile nervously when the fans totally heckled him? When he was finally able to dunk on the next play on their end, Kobe was found looking at and nodding to those fans who heckled him.

Time out called.

Kobe stays on the bench.

Nuff said.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Ohhhh and for the record you guys got robbed by the refs last year.

[KB24]

BACK to BACK or not, The MAVS outplayed the LAKERS. MAVS are on a mission.

Congrats MAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mavsfan1000]

BACK to BACK or not, The MAVS outplayed the LAKERS. MAVS are on a mission.

Congrats MAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the props.

[DubMcDub]

Ohhhh and for the record you guys got robbed by the refs last year.

True or not, Mavs shoulda been able to win regardless. Can't blame anyone but ourselves for that.

[ponky]

hey SoCal, sorry about your team dude, i thought it would be a bit more competitive but all the shots that were falling for guys like turiaf/cook/radmanovic just weren't going in tonight and kobe didn't seem like his normal self....he was probably a bit tired and his groin may have been a bit aggravated. anyway, i can't say that i'm not happy the mavs won big but there were some real assholes in my section being stupid about kobe and the lakers that i wish it was a bit closer to get them to shut up...good win at home

[BUMP]

problem is the Lakers have no big men. Chris Mihm is always injured, Bynum is too inexperienced, and we all know about Kwame :lol

[LEONARD]

go Mavs Go!!!
go Mavs Go!!!
go Mavs Go!!!
go Mavs Go!!!
go Mavs Go!!!
go Mavs Go!!!
go Mavs Go!!!

[2Cleva]

Nice W for Dallas. They showed that they are THE team to beat this year. They came out and took care of business.

Not having LO came in big this year. Dallas killed LA on the glass and Dirk went off. Those two things don't happen if he plays.

I'm still quite happy with what LA has done so far this season. They still are one player away from the Dallas level however. They could give them hell in a series if they were healthy but Dallas still would clearly be the favorites. But stats like this give me hope.


The Lakers' loss in Dallas disrupted an impressive series of games against the West's best.

Among the West contenders, only the Mavs have managed a winning record against the Lakers.

Even after Thursday night, L.A. has a stellar
10-4 record against the seven other teams projected for the Western Conference playoffs.

Lakers vs. projected West playoff teams
Mavericks: 1-2
Suns: 1-0
Spurs: 2-0
Jazz: 1-1
Rockets: 2-1
Wolves: 2-0
Nuggets: 1-0
Total: 10-4

[mabber]

Nice W for Dallas. They showed that they are THE team to beat this year. They came out and took care of business.

Not having LO came in big this year. Dallas killed LA on the glass and Dirk went off. Those two things don't happen if he plays.

I'm still quite happy with what LA has done so far this season. They still are one player away from the Dallas level however. They could give them hell in a series if they were healthy but Dallas still would clearly be the favorites. But stats like this give me hope.

I agree about Dallas not killing the LA on the glass if Odom is there.

Dirk didn't go off in the least bit. He only took about 18 shots and scored a very workman-like (for him) 26 pts. I guess you haven't seen Dirk play that much to think that was "going off" for him. Also, Odom might make it more interesting for Dirk but he'd still get his #'s. Dirk is 7ft tall with a killer fade away shot. He can get his shot off vs. anyone w/o any trouble at all.

Guys like Odom don't bother Dirk. It's the shorter guys like Bowen & Haslem that get all up into him and below his arms that bother him somewhat.

I think the Lakers will seriously compete for the Western Conference title next season (after getting that one player you're talking about...whoever
that might be).

[2Cleva]

mabber - I watch Dirk often. He and Arenas is carfying my fantasy team. Point being about going off is he didn't have to work for those points - they were easy.

And I disagree that Odom doesn't bother him. How many guys are there like him? He's the same height, more athletic, and can guard him the entire court. Plus, Dirk has to play defense on the other end.

Good game. It will all be decided in May and June.

[2Cleva]

Phil knows the deal.


Jackson stressed when he returned to the Lakers that he didn't expect to win a championship during his three years as coach. He was asked if he felt any closer to that ultimate goal.

"Well, granted that we have a couple guys that are injured that can really contribute to our team this year," Jackson said. "We're still, I think, a player away from considering ourselves at the top of the league."

[Medvedenko]

I'm not that impressed with the Mavs...we have odom and brown and the game would have been a different story. We got killed on the boards again, just like last game. Oh, and Dirk for MVP...why he doesn't play Defense to warrant anything. Only guy I like on the Mavs right now is Howard. He's their best player and does the little things. Other than that, I'm not too worried about the Mavs at this time. I fear the suns a lot more.

[aexchange]

I'm not that impressed with the Mavs...we have odom and brown and the game would have been a different story. We got killed on the boards again, just like last game. Oh, and Dirk for MVP...why he doesn't play Defense to warrant anything. Only guy I like on the Mavs right now is Howard. He's their best player and does the little things. Other than that, I'm not too worried about the Mavs at this time. I fear the suns a lot more.

lol. your username suits you so well. josh howard, the mavs best player? lol.

a spare username and an equally spare-ish post.

well done. the real men of genius salute you.

[Medvedenko]

Just stating my opinion...what did you bring to the table with your post...nothing. Also, given that my team just lost I'm a little sensitive, however still stating the facts as I see it. I've watched the Mavs play about 15 times this season and the last time that wasn't against the Lakers Dirk got lit up by a guy named Andrea....nuff said.

[LEONARD]

Walton rejected by Diop Diop...
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/e7/full.getty-71797819lm006_lakers_mavs_12_28_49_am.jpg

"JHo Got Crazy Game"
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/6f/full.getty-71797819gj004_lakers_mavs_12_08_41_am.jpg


Just stating my opinion...what did you bring to the table with your post...nothing. Also, given that my team just lost I'm a little sensitive, however still stating the facts as I see it. I've watched the Mavs play about 15 times this season and the last time that wasn't against the Lakers Dirk got lit up by a guy named Andrea....nuff said.

Dirk was lit up by Andrea...lol.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2007011428

It was clear who was the much better player at the end of that game...CLEAR!! Maybe you just typed that backwards and meant Dirk lit up Andrea... :lol

[Medvedenko]

Very sensitive....still I don't see the Mavs getting into the finals. I just can't see it. I don't see the Lakers either. The only way the Mavs get to the finals is if another team has injured starters. They may change my mind, but I don't see it right now.

[LEONARD]

Very sensitive....still I don't see the Mavs getting into the finals. I just can't see it. I don't see the Lakers either. The only way the Mavs get to the finals is if another team has injured starters. They may change my mind, but I don't see it right now.

Who can't they beat in a 7 game series when all players are healthy for both teams???

[sandeepgm]

Very sensitive....still I don't see the Mavs getting into the finals. I just can't see it. I don't see the Lakers either. The only way the Mavs get to the finals is if another team has injured starters. They may change my mind, but I don't see it right now.

Kobe got a dunk blocked by dampier, In another sequence he missed a dunk and then anthony johnson had a dunk at the other end. Does that mean he was shown up by the mavericks?? You read too much into small details to make an argument...

[SoCal Lakeshow]

hey SoCal, sorry about your team dude, i thought it would be a bit more competitive but all the shots that were falling for guys like turiaf/cook/radmanovic just weren't going in tonight and kobe didn't seem like his normal self....he was probably a bit tired and his groin may have been a bit aggravated. anyway, i can't say that i'm not happy the mavs won big but there were some real assholes in my section being stupid about kobe and the lakers that i wish it was a bit closer to get them to shut up...good win at home
Yes it was sad how easily the Mavs ran all over my beloved Lakers. All the Mavs players were on fire and even when they missed it was an offensive board everytime. Eventhough I know you're happy with any Mav win, to bad it wasn't more competitive. About those stupid Mavs fans dogging Kobe and the Lakers, next time "accidentally" spill your beer all over them. :lol

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Lakers actually matchup better with the Mavs than most teams. If I was a Dallas fan I would hope not to meet the Lakeshow in the playoffs. But as for last night good win for the Mavericks.

[LakeShow]

Quote:




The Lakers' loss in Dallas disrupted an impressive series of games against the West's best.

Among the West contenders, only the Mavs have managed a winning record against the Lakers.

Even after Thursday night, L.A. has a stellar
10-4 record against the seven other teams projected for the Western Conference playoffs.

Lakers vs. projected West playoff teams
Mavericks: 1-2
Suns: 1-0
Spurs: 2-0
Jazz: 1-1
Rockets: 2-1
Wolves: 2-0
Nuggets: 1-0
Total: 10-4

Impressive! The lakers are also 5-0 in the pacific division. Odom makes a big difference in the outcome of the games vs. Mavs. He puts pressure on Dirk to play defense which is the Mavs weak spot.

DYK, that the Lakers won the season series last season with the Mavs with Lamar and a weak bench and a very raw Bynum (who didn't play much)? The losses this season were without Lamar in both games and Kwame in 1 and Back to back games after defeating the Rockets and the Spurs in the first game. The only game that didn't involve a back to back, with both teams having 2 days off and time to prepare for the other, the Lakers won. :reading

[mabber]

Lakers actually matchup better with the Mavs than most teams. If I was a Dallas fan I would hope not to meet the Lakeshow in the playoffs. But as for last night good win for the Mavericks.

It's not going to be much fun regardless as the Mavs are going to play the 7th or 8th seed in the first round and then they'll play San Antonio, Houston or LA in the 2nd round. At this point, I don't know who I'd rather play of those 3 teams (assuming everyone is healthy). Probably rather play the Lakers just because they have some many young & inexperienced guys playing big minutes. The Rockets scare me the most if Yao & T-Mac are healthy. Whoever it is, I think it will go 6-7 games.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

problem is the Lakers have no big men. Chris Mihm is always injured, Bynum is too inexperienced, and we all know about Kwame :lol
Kwame is a very good defensive post player. He's very affective against the Tim Duncans, Kevin Garnetts, Dwight Howards of the league. Not that he can shut them down, but he does as good a job as anybody slowing them down. He's just not as effective against Dallas because Dampier is not really an offensive threat.

As for Bynum and Mihm, that's what it is. Bynum is still to inexperienced and Mihm is hurt. Eventhough Bynum is already a very good passer, he looks to pass the ball to much. Which is good and bad. He needs to look to score more often. Something that will happen as he gains confidence with his shot and builds more upper body strength.

[mabber]

Kwame is a very good defensive post player. He's very affective against the Tim Duncans, Kevin Garnetts, Dwight Howards of the league. Not that he can shut them down, but he does as good a job as anybody slowing them down. He's just not as effective against Dallas because Dampier is not really an offensive threat.

As for Bynum and Mihm, that's what it is. Bynum is still to inexperienced and Mihm is hurt. Eventhough Bynum is already a very good passer, he looks to pass the ball to much. Which is good and bad. He needs to look to score more often. Something that will happen as he gains confidence with his shot and builds more upper body strength.

I think Bynum is gonna be a beast once he learns more and gains confidence. Not sure how long that will take him.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

It's not going to be much fun regardless as the Mavs are going to play the 7th or 8th seed in the first round and then they'll play San Antonio, Houston or LA in the 2nd round. At this point, I don't know who I'd rather play of those 3 teams (assuming everyone is healthy). Probably rather play the Lakers just because they have some many young & inexperienced guys playing big minutes. The Rockets scare me the most if Yao & T-Mac are healthy. Whoever it is, I think it will go 6-7 games.
I think you guys matchup very good with San Antonio. They really do need to make a move. They need another legit scorer. Houston will more than likely be injured. I can't see McGrady being healthy come playoff time. Although Yao could give any team a run for it's money in a 7 game series. The only reason the Lakers have so many young players playing big minutes is due to injuries. Lamar plays heavy minutes and can play either the 3 or 4 very easily. Also when the Mavs go small ball he can move to the 5 and keep up with Dirk. But our weakness is at the PG position and if we don't get big games out of Smush or Farmar (still a rookie), we will not be able to beat the elite teams.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I think Bynum is gonna be a beast once he learns more and gains confidence. Not sure how long that will take him.
Next year he should be solid. The year after (if he keeps working hard), he should be very close to All-Star level if not an All-Star player.

[Medvedenko]

With a healthy Laker team, I see them beating a healthy Mavs team. It will go 6 or 7, but we match up quite nicely. Oh, I love Howard, and without him the Mavs aren't going anywhere.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I agree Howard is a stud for you guys. He might not be your best player, but he is very close. He can do whatever is needed and whatever is asked from him. An excellent jack of all trades.

[mabber]

With a healthy Laker team, I see them beating a healthy Mavs team. It will go 6 or 7, but we match up quite nicely. Oh, I love Howard, and without him the Mavs aren't going anywhere.

You'd be about the only one that thinks this as the Mavs would be HUGE favorites in this series. Anything can happen though.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

You'd be about the only one that thinks this as the Mavs would be HUGE favorites in this series. Anything can happen though.
I'd take the Lakers with the odds. :smokin

[Medvedenko]

I just see what I see....of course the Mavs would be heavily favoured especially if they continue this run. I do have a feeling though...the mavs were up big and they kept their starters in the game for most of the 4th...interesting mentality...maybe a little gun shy.

[mabber]

I agree Howard is a stud for you guys. He might not be your best player, but he is very close. He can do whatever is needed and whatever is asked from him. An excellent jack of all trades.

He never stops moving and never gets tired. The energy he brings helps them as much as his #'s do.

I just hope he doesn't make the allstar team as he will use that snub to motivate him even more. That's how he's wired...he has an enormous chip on his shoulder for not getting drafted earlier than he was. He's one of those players that uses things (like not making all star team) to motivate him. He really believes that he's an as good or better player than Melo & LeBron (same draft) and wants to prove it.

[mabber]

I'd take the Lakers with the odds. :smokin

I'd probably make that bet as well (cuz you'd get great odds) :lol

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I just hope he doesn't make the allstar team as he will use that snub to motivate him even more. That's how he's wired...he has an enormous chip on his shoulder
That's what makes Kobe so great. Some players thrive off of it.

[DubMcDub]

I just see what I see....of course the Mavs would be heavily favoured especially if they continue this run. I do have a feeling though...the mavs were up big and they kept their starters in the game for most of the 4th...interesting mentality...maybe a little gun shy.

That's cause the lead got cut down and Avery wasn't about to let the Lakers pull off some miracle come back.

Gun shy? :lol

[mabber]

I just see what I see....of course the Mavs would be heavily favoured especially if they continue this run. I do have a feeling though...the mavs were up big and they kept their starters in the game for most of the 4th...interesting mentality...maybe a little gun shy.

Avery knew I had a bet on the Mavs -9.5 and didn't want them to blow that for me :lol

He had taken the starters out, the Lakers then cut the lead down to 18-19 (from 27) with 5+ minutes to go and decided to put them back in as you never know. I've seen the Mavs make a big lead go away in less than 5 minutes and when you're playing against Kobe (after he dropped 60+ pts on you last year) there's no point in taking chances. In reality, I think he was making a point to his bench players. He was upset that they were f..king around so he took them out.

[Medvedenko]

Still, it shows a weak mentality....why not let the bench play, its not like we had our starters in the game with exception to Kobe who came in around the 8 min mark. By playing his bench would surely spell relief for Dirk and provide confidence to his bench.

[mabber]

Still, it shows a weak mentality....why not let the bench play, its not like we had our starters in the game with exception to Kobe who came in around the 8 min mark. By playing his bench would surely spell relief for Dirk and provide confidence to his bench.

Actually, he's being a hard ass by doing this (not weak mentality). He's making a point that if you want minutes (even in a blowout) you need to perform. Plus, it's not like the starters were expended last night. It was an easy win and they don't play again until Sunday. Avery doesn't allow these guys to coast. They'll be up 20pts with 5 minutes to go and he'll call a timeout and give them a goal or something to work on for the rest of the game. He's an incredible hard ass and he's fortunate that he has the type of players that can deal with it. Eventually, he'll start to wear on some of these guys. That's why it's important to win a title in the next couple of years IMO.

Also, the bench doesn't need confidence. The team is oozing with confidence. One of their few problems is that the entire team is overly confident. It's the reason they get behind in so many games...cuz they think they can come back and win whenever they put forth the focus & effort.

You missed Avery's motive but you don't watch this team every game like I do so it's understandable.

[Findog]

Oh, and Dirk for MVP...why he doesn't play Defense to warrant anything. Only guy I like on the Mavs right now is Howard. He's their best player and does the little things. Other than that, I'm not too worried about the Mavs at this time. I fear the suns a lot more.

What year do you think this is, 2002? Dirk has become a non-liability on defense. He does a decent job these days. There's a reason the Mavs are on a 33-4 tear. You don't watch Dallas much. You should be worried about the Mavs...I can't believe Laker fans moaning about how Lamar Odom and Kwame Brown would've made a difference last night. Every night Kwame is the opposing team's sixth man.

[Findog]

With a healthy Laker team, I see them beating a healthy Mavs team. It will go 6 or 7, but we match up quite nicely. Oh, I love Howard, and without him the Mavs aren't going anywhere.

Get your eyes checked.

[ponky]

I just see what I see....of course the Mavs would be heavily favoured especially if they continue this run. I do have a feeling though...the mavs were up big and they kept their starters in the game for most of the 4th...interesting mentality...maybe a little gun shy.

We play every other day for the next 4 games or so, no reason not to let the starters get some extra minutes in, especially when Kobe returned after what was a lengthy break int he 4th. Also, our scrubs were allowing too many points while Kobe was sitting so why not bring a couple of starters back in when Kobe returned to keep the double digit lead? Your feeling is nothing but a wrong assumption.

[BUMP]

Very sensitive....still I don't see the Mavs getting into the finals. I just can't see it. I don't see the Lakers either. The only way the Mavs get to the finals is if another team has injured starters. They may change my mind, but I don't see it right now.

yes since we are 2-1 vs the Spurs, and 2-0 vs Phoenix and both teams were healthy.

im not saying you cant pick another team to go, but saying that you cant even picture us in the finals is ignorance......or jealousy

we have the best record in the NBA, AND we have beaten the quality teams, AND werent we just there last year?

[DubMcDub]

Still, it shows a weak mentality....why not let the bench play, its not like we had our starters in the game with exception to Kobe who came in around the 8 min mark. By playing his bench would surely spell relief for Dirk and provide confidence to his bench.

Unbunch your panties. Bitching about a coach "leaving the starters in too long" when your team gets annihilated is the lowest of the low.