Muslims Protesting Plot Line in 24

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2805120&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

:rolleyes

I take offense to fundamentalists showing *real life* movies of Americans getting their heads chopped off. Why don't they put more effort into dealing with that reality instead of some perceived Hollywood slight.

Give me a fucking break.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

I hope they aren't protesting with bombs.... jusssssssssssst kiddddddding

[CubanMustGo]

Gee, I'm pretty unhappy that 100% of the 9/11 murderers were Muslims, too. Deal with it asswipes.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I hope they aren't protesting with bombs.... jusssssssssssst kiddddddding

:lol

[Fillmoe]

i heard jews are protesting borat, but they caved in when the producers started throwing money at them

[mookie2001]

beheadings are not the most popular show on TV, on twice a week for 2 hours, FREE, and watched by millionS of kids

[mookie2001]

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/01/17/guest_cites_foxs_fictional_24_as_evidence_that_ter rorists_are_out_there.php

[MannyIsGod]

beheadings are not the most popular show on TV, on twice a week for 2 hours, FREE, and watched by millionS of kidsWell, no one really dies on 24. GMAFB Mookie. Don't try to paint 24 bad by comparing it to video kidnappings because you'll look stupid trying to do that.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well, no one really dies on 24. GMAFB Mookie. Don't try to paint 24 bad by comparing it to video kidnappings because you'll look stupid trying to do that.

Too late :lol

Seriously mookie, you are hanging out with boutons too much. Come join us in reality.

[mookie2001]

no I was arguing that 24 is worse than beheadings...





aggy is arguing that because terrorists kill americans, its alright to expose millions of kids to the sick notion that rounding up all muslims AND PUTTING THEM IN CAMPS is part of defending your country


put the shit in a movie, that doesnt belong on primetime network television

[johngateswhiteley]

put the shit in a movie, that doesnt belong on primetime network television

...well, neither does your dumb ass being a moderator. but you're still here.

[jackiel1219]

a couple of seasons too late

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

no I was arguing that 24 is worse than beheadings...





aggy is arguing that because terrorists kill americans, its alright to expose millions of kids to the sick notion that rounding up all muslims AND PUTTING THEM IN CAMPS is part of defending your country


put the shit in a movie, that doesnt belong on primetime network television

I told you, go watch The Siege. It's in a movie.

I didn't know the demographic at 8 PM on Mondays was the 8-10 year old segment, got any links to back that up or are you just being a whiny nag?

Are you even watching the shows? Because there are Muslim characters on BOTH sides of the fence - some are terrorists, some are trying to stop them.

If you're going to bitch about something, try and be informed at least.

I guess I should stand up and bitch and moan to Fox too, after all last year one of the bad guys was the president - a white male. What the fuck? ** I'm outraged **.

[mookie2001]

you know perfectly well that millions of kids watch that shit with no supervision and millions more watch it with their chickenhawk parents creaming on themselves everytime they torture someone or blow up a muslim

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I'd like to believe that Mookie's playing Devil's Advocate for the sake of discussion...

[mookie2001]

its beyond sex and violence, you see 20,000 examples of that a day, this is the only show (the #1 show) I know of that shows muslims being tortured and being put in camps (didnt this used to be the darkest moment in modern american history?), on primetime TV, its a fixable problem, take it off

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

its beyond sex and violence, you see 20,000 examples of that a day, this is the only show (the #1 show) I know of that shows muslims being tortured and being put in camps (didnt this used to be the darkest moment in modern american history?), on primetime TV, its a fixable problem, take it off

Are you forgetting one of the opening scenes where the National Security Adviser specifically said the President should not sign off on it since the internment of the Japanese was and is widely-regarded as one of the darkest periods in the nation's history.

Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it - she was trying to prevent the same mistake and her voice/thoughts are clearly made known.

[BeerIsGood!]

Primarily because of the movie - I tend to capitalize "Devil's Advocate" when I type it as well.



I see no problem with the story line. People like to bitch, and a lot of people are just better at and more comfortable with bitching than actually taking something in stride.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Primarily because of the movie - I tend to capitalize "Devil's Advocate" when I type it as well.



I see no problem with the story line. People like to bitch, and a lot of people are just better at and more comfortable with bitching than actually taking something in stride.

Last weekend, I saw a brief on Headline News about a new comedy sitcom (I think it was Canadian) about Muslims produced and written by Muslims that was gaining in popularity.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

its beyond sex and violence, you see 20,000 examples of that a day, this is the only show (the #1 show) I know of that shows muslims being tortured and being put in camps (didnt this used to be the darkest moment in modern american history?), on primetime TV, its a fixable problem, take it off

And here I was thinking Mookie would never stand for censorship.

[BeerIsGood!]

this is the only show (the #1 show) I know of that shows muslims being tortured and being put in camps (didnt this used to be the darkest moment in modern american history?), on primetime TV, its a fixable problem, take it off

As long as it's not being shown on primetime tv on HLN or CNN.


It's Fiction.

[mookie2001]

I am against censorship, they can go down to the street corner with a bullhorn, write a book, start a website, make it the sickest globalist violent incestious shit you can think of, but primetime free tv is different

[timvp]

Obviosly Kiefer Sutherland didn't go to UT.

[MannyIsGod]

I am against censorship, they can go down to the street corner with a bullhorn, write a book, start a website, make it the sickest globalist violent incestious shit you can think of, but primetime free tv is differentYou're Tipper Fucking Gore as far as I'm concerned. You're no fucking better. This is the weakest take EVER from you.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I am against censorship, they can go down to the street corner with a bullhorn, write a book, start a website, make it the sickest globalist violent incestious shit you can think of, but primetime free tv is different

How so?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

You're Tipper Fucking Gore as far as I'm concerned. You're no fucking better. This is the weakest take EVER from you.

No, no...give him a chance. I'd like to see just how far he can dig this hole in his entire posting history.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

So who makes that censorship call, Mookie?

[Spurminator]

Anyone who actually watches 24 knows this is bullshit. Profiling is always condemned by the writers of the show. They've gone out of their way to provide politically correct balance to the Islamofascist antagonists.

[BeerIsGood!]

The age old question: Where does keeping it in good taste stop and censorship begin?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

The age old question: Where does keeping it in good taste stop and censorship begin?

Well, the line the courts have drawn have been at "obscene."

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

you know perfectly well that millions of kids watch that shit with no supervision and millions more watch it with their chickenhawk parents creaming on themselves everytime they torture someone or blow up a muslim

The next time kids go out and set up a prison camp for Muslims, call me.

[BeerIsGood!]

Well, the line the courts have drawn have been at "obscene."

Definition?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I am against censorship, they can go down to the street corner with a bullhorn, write a book, start a website, make it the sickest globalist violent incestious shit you can think of, but primetime free tv is different

You sound like the liberal profs at SMU protesting the Bush library. They sit there and talk about how they want open political dialog, but don't want his library there because it will be conservative :lol

Typical lib. Only want free speech if it's *their* free speech, but when the other side speaks up, then it's wrong and should be censored.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Definition?

I'm not avoiding your question, but it's time for me to head out from work...I'll continue once I get home.

[MannyIsGod]

Anyone who actually watches 24 knows this is bullshit. Profiling is always condemned by the writers of the show. They've gone out of their way to provide politically correct balance to the Islamofascist antagonists.Exactly. Thats why this is all a bunch of bullshit.

[BeerIsGood!]

I'm not avoiding your question, but it's time for me to head out from work...I'll continue once I get home.

cool. This is one of those subjective things that no one can ever seem to agree on. It is an interesting social dilemma.

[mookie2001]

It should come down to fox, Im not going to boycott any of the advertisers because i dont look to them for morals. i dont think FOX will change up the most popular show on tv.
Its pretty obvious manny and aggy REALLY love this show huh?, or just hate being called chickenhawks? what exactly are yall scoffing so hard?, do i ever speak out against any tv shows?, did I call for the job of the fox prez or demand the producers apologize?, NO, all Im saying is its not appropriate to show shit like that on primetime free tv

[MannyIsGod]

It should come down to fox, Im not going to boycott any of the advertisers because i dont look to them for morals. i dont think FOX will change up the most popular show on tv.
Its pretty obvious manny and aggy REALLY love this show huh?, or just hate being called chickenhakws? what exactly are yall scoffing so hard?, do i ever speak out against any tv shows?, did I call for the job of the fox prez or demand the producers apologize?, NO, all Im saying is its not appropriate to show shit like that on primetime free tvYou won't boycott because you're unwilling to do shit yourself. You'd rather bitch about what other people do/don't do. I think its fucking retarded that you're complaining about this show because its not a bad show from a muslim perspective. I understand that no one wants to see muslims depicted as terrorists, but god damn give me a fucking break. The terrorists acting out against this country are for the most part muslim! Its a TV show mirroring the current socio-politico climate and you bitch about it.

And if you really think its shitty, then do something about it but don't sit there and expect Fox or anyone else to change it for you. I understand you'd much rather just complain and moan about a show you've probably never watched, but thats fucking lazy and stupid. I hate to see anyone advocate censorship, and thats exactly what you did earlier but now you're back peddling faster then Beno with a HS Senior point guard coming at him.

[Mookie_is_a_chode_face]

I am against censorship, they can go down to the street corner with a bullhorn, write a book, start a website, make it the sickest globalist violent incestious shit you can think of, but primetime free tv is different
Go eat a cookie and shut the fuck up!

[mookie2001]

too lazy to watch a tv show? manny?

youre unwilling to kill muslims yourself?, youd rather cheer for a tv show

I didnt say anything about muslims being depicted as terrorists, I am talking SPECIFICALLY about muslims being rounded up and being put in camps, in the patriot act era, and living right down the road from crystal city texas, im not down with that shit

[MannyIsGod]

too lazy to watch a tv show? manny?

youre unwilling to kill muslims yourself?, youd rather cheer for a tv show

I didnt say anything about muslims being depicted as terrorists, I am talking SPECIFICALLY about muslims being rounded up and being put in camps, in the patriot act era, and living right down the road from crystal city texas, im not down with that shitNo mookie, you're too lazy to do anything about your displeasure with their being rounded up into camps. You'd rather just bitch about it and wait for someone to take the show off the air. Right? Or are you actually planning on acting out on your displeasure?

They depict the rounding up of the Muslims in a POOR LIGHT, dumbass. They make it look like a horrible thing to do. This is the first season that its happend in as well, and one of the central threads in the plot is a lawyer fighting for the civil rights. This is what happens when you open an ignorant mouth. Bullshit comes flying out.

[johngateswhiteley]

No mookie, you're too lazy to do anything about your displeasure with their being rounded up into camps. You'd rather just bitch about it and wait for someone to take the show off the air. Right? Or are you actually planning on acting out on your displeasure?

They depict the rounding up of the Muslims in a POOR LIGHT, dumbass. They make it look like a horrible thing to do. This is the first season that its happend in as well, and one of the central threads in the plot is a lawyer fighting for the civil rights. This is what happens when you open an ignorant mouth. Bullshit comes flying out.

what about the rounding up of mookies and other dumb shit longhorns? can we do that...is that allowed?

[BeerIsGood!]

This is what happens when you open an ignorant mouth. Bullshit comes flying out.


JGW - I believe he's talking directly to you bud.

:spin :spin

[johngateswhiteley]

JGW - I believe he's talking directly to you bud.

:spin :spin

...you're a dumb shit longhorn? i was beginning to think you were an intelligent longhorn...? if there is such a thing?

[BeerIsGood!]

...you're a dumb shit longhorn? i was beginning to think you were an intelligent longhorn...? if there is such a thing?

:blah I figured you were casting a blanket over the entire Longhorn nation so I felt obligated to respond in such a manner. Although I can't speak for everyone - there are a lot of dumb shits wearing horn gear out there. Of course, the same goes for aggieland as well. What's the ratio of idiots to intelligent people in this country? 100:1? 1000:1??

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Only JGW could find someway to turn a thread about Muslims complaining about their portrayal in the mass media into a way to flex his mutt college background.

[BeerIsGood!]

Only JGW could find someway to turn a thread about Muslims complaining about their portrayal in the mass media into a way to flex his mutt college background.

:lol He'd be perfect for one of those ESPN U "Never Graduate" commercials.

[johngateswhiteley]

:blah I figured you were casting a blanket over the entire Longhorn nation so I felt obligated to respond in such a manner. Although I can't speak for everyone - there are a lot of dumb shits wearing horn gear out there. Of course, the same goes for aggieland as well. What's the ratio of idiots to intelligent people in this country? 100:1? 1000:1??

...idiots to intelligent people? shit....at most 1000:1, maybe less. and yes, i am a good candidate for the 'Never Graduate' commercials...i agree.

[johngateswhiteley]

a way to flex his mutt college background.

i like the word usage here, touche.

[Kori Ellis]

When the movie The Seige came out, Middle Easterners were protesting it for stereotyping them.

They even called in a bomb threat to 20th Century Fox the day before the movie premiered. (Fox was my biggest client at the time)

:tu Way to prove your point?? :lol

[johnsmith]

I didn't read this whole thing, didn't have to in order to figure out that mookie is the biggest pussy on this site.

[DarkReign]

...The terrorists acting out against this country are for the most part muslim!

LOL...yeah, for the most part. Youre being waaaaaaay too politically correct.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

LOL...yeah, for the most part. Youre being waaaaaaay too politically correct.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1375000/images/_1379659_mcveigh150afp.jpghttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/images/terry25.jpg

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Its pretty obvious manny and aggy REALLY love this show huh?, or just hate being called chickenhawks? what exactly are yall scoffing so hard?


It's not about petty insults by a simpleton like you. It's about you getting so bent out of shape without even knowing what's going on. Do you even watch the show? There's a balance to good and bad Muslims. There's some that are preaching peace and trying to stop the attacks, others initiating them. Pretty close to real life.

Further, I don't see you whining about shows like JAG (when it was on), The Unit (currently on TV), etc. All of those depicted Muslims as terrorists. But again, don't see you complaining.

We're in season 6 of 24, and this is what, the second time that Muslims have been the antagonists? Considering in real life they're doing upwards of 80-90% of terrorism world wide right now, what's the big deal?


NO, all Im saying is its not appropriate to show shit like that on primetime free tv

Again, JAG did the same. The Unit does. You have a problem with this, with 'children' seeing this, but you're okay with cheating housewives, chicks slutting around on Big Brother and things like that, etc.? Hypocrite.


youre unwilling to kill muslims yourself?, youd rather cheer for a tv show


It's a TV show. Good lord. You know what's comical? You get this bent out of shape about this, but you hero worship a bunch of druggie potheads in Ricky Williams and Cedric Bongson.



I didnt say anything about muslims being depicted as terrorists, I am talking SPECIFICALLY about muslims being rounded up and being put in camps, in the patriot act era, and living right down the road from crystal city texas, im not down with that shit

Well, if you watched the show, one of the major plot themes is the struggle over the Constitution and legality of what is going on. So the writers are even voicing the same concerns you are through the story line.

Take some redlin and chill out.

[Spurminator]

This is like protesting Schindler's List because it portrays Jews being rounded up and put into concentration camps.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

And just in case Mookie didn't see it the first five times it was mentioned?

Do you watch the show?

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

One thing worth noting about 24 is that the Muslim terrorists are the ONLY bad guys that have ever been portrayed in a politically correct light. Every other group of bad guys have been almost cartoonish and painted in very broad strokes as nothing but evil. The non-Muslim bad guys have been :eastern European guys from season 1, the domestic terrorists from the early part of season 2, the oil consortium that was secretly pulling the strings in season 2, the Mexican druglords and the angry British ex-special forces guy from season 3, the Russians from season 5, and the occasional mole/traitor who is usually an employee of the American government. For pretty much all of these bad guys the show just said, "These guys are evil," and left it at that.

So in the universe of 24 less than half of the major terrorist threat to America comes from Muslim extremists. If anything, for a show that focuses specifically on terrorists I'd say the writers have bent over backwards to avoid showing Muslims as bad guys all the time. And my bet is that political correctness has relatively little to do with that at all. Watching Jack shoot middle eastern terrorists for six straight years would get stale and at the end of the day it's supposed to be entertainment.

[Trainwreck2100]

Who were those bluetooth guys last season?

[Spurminator]

Maybe the terrorists in shows like this should just be aliens from other planets. Everybody wins.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Maybe the terrorists in shows like this should just be aliens from other planets. Everybody wins.

At least until we make contact with alien life. There will be spacemookies throwing a fit all over the place.

[dougp]

At least until we make contact with alien life. There will be spacemookies throwing a fit all over the place.
That made me laugh ... spacemookies :lol

[DarkReign]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1375000/images/_1379659_mcveigh150afp.jpghttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/images/terry25.jpg

Well, considering the 19 hijackers of 9/11, the bombing of the USS Cole, etc.

Your 2 homegrowns against at least 25 Muslims.

Thats 12.5 to 1 and I am severly rounding down. So assumptions about who is and who isnt a terrorist are pretty specific. Being of middle-eastern decent and Muslim makes you 1250% more likely to be a terrorist when compared to being of European decent and Christian.

Thats an underestimation and its still striking. The stereotype is valid.

[mookie2001]

No I dont watch 24, and proud of it, I saw most of the premiere, and some of the last episode, I saw some season 2-5 dvds that my cousins played at christmas. people need to stop comparing this to rated R movies such as shindlers list (isnt that a true story?) and the seige, its 100% different, we HAVE censorship on network tv

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Well, considering the 19 hijackers of 9/11, the bombing of the USS Cole, etc.

Your 2 homegrowns against at least 25 Muslims.

Thats 12.5 to 1 and I am severly rounding down. So assumptions about who is and who isnt a terrorist are pretty specific. Being of middle-eastern decent and Muslim makes you 1250% more likely to be a terrorist when compared to being of European decent and Christian.

Thats an underestimation and its still striking. The stereotype is valid.

I thought you laughed at him saying "for the most part."

I agree with you. But there have been a number of white supremicist groups trying stuff, too (but for the most part, getting caught earlier).

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

we HAVE censorship on network tv

Since when has 24 been considered obscene?

[johngateswhiteley]

But there have been a number of white supremicist groups trying stuff, too (but for the most part, getting caught earlier).

(sigh)...stupid horns fans. :nope

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

(sigh)...stupid horns fans. :nope

Are you disagreeing with me or calling me a Horns fan?

Or both?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Okay, Mookie...we censor 24 because you're offended - where do we stop?

[johngateswhiteley]

Are you disagreeing with me or calling me a Horns fan?

Or both?

neither.

[mookie2001]

I dont know what you mean by "censor" I dont think the FCC should step in, I dont think fox should cancel the show simply on that premise, the writers/producers have the right to make it as sick as they can before it passes "the censors" I have the right to scoff the shit out of them and call them irresponsible and the theme "inappropriate", which I did, and "im not down with that shit", which i said too, I also will call people who love the show so much they make threads about it and defend it vigorously, Chickenhawks

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

neither.

Gotcha.

So, Mook...where's the censorship end?

What about The Unit? Desperate Housewives?

[MannyIsGod]

I dont know what you mean by "censor" I dont think the FCC should step in, I dont think fox should cancel the show simply on that premise, the writers/producers have the right to make it as sick as they can before it passes "the censors" I have the right to scoff the shit out of them and call them irresponsible and the theme "inappropriate", which I did, and "im not down with that shit", which i said too, I also will call people who love the show so much they make threads about it and defend it vigorously, Chickenhawks:lol

You'll scoff? Whatever. In other words I only care enough to bitch about it on the internet. Actually do something or STFU. You're just being a whiney bitch.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

put the shit in a movie, that doesnt belong on primetime network television



on primetime TV, its a fixable problem, take it off





NO, all Im saying is its not appropriate to show shit like that on primetime free tv


So either you're making a call to action without doing anything yourself (which IIRC has been a rallying cry of yours to people who support the war and sending their own children or fighting themsevles) OR you're now the decision-maker of what should be on TV [and you have no problem with fictionalized sex or fictionalized violence, just fictionalized civil rights issues - because children will imitate violence against Muslims because they see it on 24 with or without parental supervision, even though as you've said, you've never gone after TV before (which would mean you're okay or indifferent to children imitating the sex or violence they see on TV)].

Which is it, Mookie? Because whatever you answer, your status as a hypocrite will be confirmed.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

:lol

You'll scoff? Whatever. In other words I only care enough to bitch about it on the internet. Actually do something or STFU. You're just being a whiney bitch.

For the posters that frequent the political forum, has Mook ever used the "Why don't you go fight in Iraq War if you're okay with it" card?

[mookie2001]

GODDAM manny loves 24 like no other



take it off the air, i said it again. there is a limit to how much sex and violence you can show on tv, but there is no limit to how bad you can violate the constitution, you either do or you dont. It is irresponsible

manny was bitching and whining about internet gambling laws, did you bust an email to your rep manny?, its the least you can do and would take hours of hardwork- are you gonna march on washington? or just bitch and whine on your blog?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

take it off the air, i said it again. there is a limit to how much sex and violence you can show on tv, but there is no limit to how bad you can violate the constitution, you either do or you dont. It is irresponsible


How exactly does fictionalized entertainment violate the Constitution?

[mookie2001]

how exactly is a sex scene on tv sex?, or someone getting shot on law and order murder?

[mookie2001]

its a depiction

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

how exactly is a sex scene on tv sex?, or someone getting shot on law and order murder?

How exactly is the imprisonment of Muslims on TV actually imprisonment of Muslims?

[mookie2001]

im not catching your drift blaze

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

im not catching your drift blaze

Obviously not or this thread would have ended 30 posts ago.

A depiction is not reality.

Neither of the three scenarios posted are reality.

Therefore, none of the three is real.

[mookie2001]

exactly which is what I assumed we both understood

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

exactly which is what I assumed we both understood

So why not call for the cancellation of all of three?

[mookie2001]

its beyond sex and violence, you see 20,000 examples of that a day, this is the only show (the #1 show) I know of that shows muslims being tortured and being put in camps (didnt this used to be the darkest moment in modern american history?), on primetime TV
there is a limit to how much sex and violence you can show on tv, but there is no limit to how bad you can violate the constitution, you either do or you dont. It is irresponsible AND I DIDNT CALL FOR THE CANCELLATION OF ANYTHING BRAH

[MannyIsGod]

GODDAM manny loves 24 like no other



take it off the air, i said it again. there is a limit to how much sex and violence you can show on tv, but there is no limit to how bad you can violate the constitution, you either do or you dont. It is irresponsible

manny was bitching and whining about internet gambling laws, did you bust an email to your rep manny?, its the least you can do and would take hours of hardwork- are you gonna march on washington? or just bitch and whine on your blog?1) I sent letters to my congressmen, senators, the president, the governer of texas and memebers of congress I had nothing to do with.

2) I made phone calls to many of the above offices.

3) I joined the Poker Players Alliance, a political lobby group.

4) I donated money against Kyle in Arizona along with many other poker players.

Oh, but most importantly I scoffed them on Spurstalk. Who cares about the above.




Anyhow, I'm glad that we have you to decide what should or shouldn't be on the air. All this time I was worried that the right wing nut jubs who wanted censorship were going to have to rescue us, but in reality you're the one who is going to save the children from the horrible evil that is 24. You're my hero Mookie - eteranal internet scoffer.

[Melmart1]

Supporting television censorship? Mookie, you've changed!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

AND I DIDNT CALL FOR THE CANCELLATION OF ANYTHING BRAH

So why not call for the writers to censor themsevles on other shows?

[mookie2001]

:wakeup

[mookie2001]

props, but god, that must have taken...Hours. Im just glad it clear to all how much you love 24, thats it. The nature of the internets is scoffage, and especially spurstalk, How am i deciding whats on tv- like I asked in a question, do i often take stands against TV shows?, No, Just ones that are blatently prowar, and sitting atop #1 while they piss on the constitution, if i see similar shit on some tv show I dont watch, and yall are making a thread about it, I'll do it again

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

props, but god, that must have taken...Hours. Im just glad it clear to all how much you love 24, thats all. The nature of the internets is scoffage, and especially spurstalk, How am i deciding whats on tv- like I asked in a question, do i often take stands against TV shows?, No, Just ones that are blatently prowar, and sitting atop #1 while they piss on the constitution, if i see similar shit on some tv I dont watch, and yall are making a thread about it, I'll do it again

Damn them for bringing out civil rights issues and actively debating them in a television show.

Freedom Fighter Mookie will save us.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

And if you can't seperate fiction from reality, you're more of an idiot than I give you credit for.

[mookie2001]

whats there to debate about civil rights?

[mookie2001]

im turning into an eminem fan too

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

props, but god, that must have taken...Hours. Im just glad it clear to all how much you love 24, thats it. The nature of the internets is scoffage, and especially spurstalk, How am i deciding whats on tv- like I asked in a question, do i often take stands against TV shows?, No, Just ones that are blatently prowar, and sitting atop #1 while they piss on the constitution, if i see similar shit on some tv show I dont watch, and yall are making a thread about it, I'll do it again

Did you make a thread or take a stand about The Simpsons episode where Homer and Bart became moonshiners and "pissed on the Constitution's" former amendment about prohibition?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

whats there to debate about civil rights?

Apparently a lot since we have a Political Forum.

[mookie2001]

good one, yeah i made several threads about it just like i did about 24, and also former amendments are much more important than current ones

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

good one, yeah i made several threads about it just like i did about 24, and also former amendments are much more important than current ones

Alright, fine...did you mind when The Simpsons did their parody of "Schoolhouse Rock's" I'm Only A Bill?

You know, that trampled on the process of a bill becoming a law and an amendment to the Constituion.

[2centsworth]

Mookie is a perfect example of why I believe the biggest threat to freedom comes from the left.

Smoking laws, seat belt laws, trans fat laws etc....

Next will be the fairness doctrine.

[mookie2001]

you forgot patriot act, protest zones and warantless wiretaping

[johngateswhiteley]

Mookie is a perfect example of why I believe the biggest threat to freedom comes from the left.

Smoking laws, seat belt laws, trans fat laws etc....

Next will be the fairness doctrine.


:lol ...so true. i'll never understand why the government feels the need to try and protect everybody from themselves.

[mookie2001]

even though the common chickenhawk doesnt see it. I dont like "democrats", I hate them a lot less than necons, but theyre globalists just the same, I am against hate speech legislation and also that show 24 blows, seatbelt laws blow too



and wasnt it democrat shane skylar that told US newspapers they couldnt print pictures of american coffins drapped in flags coming back from iraq?

[MannyIsGod]

even though the common chickenhawk doesnt see it. I dont like "democrats", I hate them a lot less than necons, but theyre globalists just the same, I am against hate speech legislation and also that show 24 blows, seatbelt laws blow too



and wasnt it democrat shane skylar that told US newspapers they couldnt print pictures of american coffins drapped in flags coming back from iraq?Your just a whiney bitch. Thats all.

[mookie2001]

you like 24

[SpursWoman]

beheadings are not the most popular show on TV, on twice a week for 2 hours, FREE, and watched by millionS of kids


Oh, damn ... is mookie trying to raise my kids now? :lol


We have parental controls on the TV's mookie, and that falls into a rating they need the password to watch. So you can sleep a little easier now. :lol

[mookie2001]

not everyone is as responsible as you, you know millions of kids get babysat by the tv everynight, its hard to stop them from seeing something thats free. with HBO, dont order it (i think you must have digital cablebox which comes with parental controls), they cant buy porn, cant get into rated R movies and cant go see GWAR in concert

[SequSpur]

24 fucking rules.

If you don't like it, go watch dance off pants off or cribs or your momma... shit, that's why they got 200 channels... turn it.... wtF?

[mookie2001]

im done anyway, if you read the thread, I never called for the show to be cancelled, and again WE HAVE CENSORSHIP ON NETWORK TV, I called it sick and inappropriate, and manny went awol because he loves 24

[SequSpur]

I like it and most people that like action packed movies/shows etc, should like it to.

if you look at it any other way, you got some issues.

[mookie2001]

ive never argued with you before sequ, unlike manny, aggy and jblaze, but most people who like 24 also like the war in iraq.

[mookie2001]

cue flames

[SequSpur]

I don't like the war in iraq, i think its stupid. The show is fiction.

[E20]

It's a free country and everybody has the Bill of Rights and Freedom of Speech, as long as they're doing it peacefully. I mean this is a current situation with America and the rest of the world and is interesting, so this is gonna make money. I'm pretty sure sitcoms and comic books were made to show off America combatting the Japanese and Germans during WWII. (Marvel/DC comics for one), so everybody should know it's fiction. Nobody needs to go sucidial or anything over this.

[mookie2001]

if the american media reported the number 1 show in Iran for 3-5 years running was stoning and enslaving captured Americans as a major theme, that would be relevent for them in todays climate. Its fiction- the rational human wouldnt think that a TV show could start a war, or even matter enough to be a factor if a war were possible. But the EXTREME "right", pro-war, pundits, columinist, propagandist AND extreme right religious leaders (robertson, falwell, the otherguy) would most certainly use it to get you to hate muslims just that much more, how theyre a serious threat, and want to kill you, etc...


ill try to finish my own argument

-then the response is fuck muslims who gives a shit about them, we hate eachother anyway, if we change because of them! the terrorists have really won.

-we're speaking specifically of muslims being tortured and forced into camps, on the most popular and free TV show

-manny says quit bitching, then I'll drop a chickenhawk neocon

-get nowhere, the end

[LaMarcus Bryant]

not everyone is as responsible as you, you know millions of kids get babysat by the tv everynight, its hard to stop them from seeing something thats free. with HBO, dont order it (i think you must have digital cablebox which comes with parental controls), they cant buy porn, cant get into rated R movies and cant go see GWAR in concert



How mad would America be if they knew their kids were being splashed with semen, urine, and blood on the reg?

[Spurminator]

Wow, so many pages about a show that only exists in Mookie's mind.

I still don't see how this argument is relevant for a show that depicts profiling and bigotry in a negative light...

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Only JGW could find someway to turn a thread about Muslims complaining about their portrayal in the mass media into a way to flex his mutt college background.


:lmao
rack the blaze

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Mookie is my homeboy, while we don't share the same views, i feel i have to add one more thing:

half of you who disagree with him are just all on the 'he's a liberal' thing, when he's not a liberal at all
some of you take what he says and interpret it wrong

basically he believes the degredation of civil rights beginning with the patriot act has not stopped or gone away, and is a constitionalist from the Jonesian school of thought. I dont think he wants to take it off now that its the number one show but its pretty ridiculous to gloss over the fact that some of the content can make impressions on youngins. So what if they make it 'obvious' that camps are wrong? Kids are kids.

If he actually knew how to type and punctuate, im sure he'd get his ideas out more clear.

[smeagol]

reality shows . . . those should be banned.

[The New Midge]

I wish the Muslims weren't so angry. I would really like for every person to get along.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

If I were the writer of 24 I would have Keifer Sutherland turn into a vampire, then base the show around the california city of Santa Carla, where Keifer would save america by turning people into vampires around a carnival near the beach.

[mookie2001]

I dont think ive ever fooled anyone to thinking I use puncutation, and I learned one thing, people love 24

[BeerIsGood!]

Well, considering the 19 hijackers of 9/11, the bombing of the USS Cole, etc.

Your 2 homegrowns against at least 25 Muslims.

Thats 12.5 to 1 and I am severly rounding down. So assumptions about who is and who isnt a terrorist are pretty specific. Being of middle-eastern decent and Muslim makes you 1250% more likely to be a terrorist when compared to being of European decent and Christian.

Thats an underestimation and its still striking. The stereotype is valid.

I'm not saying that Muslim extremists aren't a terroristic threat, but if you think Muslim terrorists outnumber domestic terrorists by such a wide margin you are mistaken. Domestic terrorism is a problem in this country. There are dozens if not a hundred separate New World Order sects in Montana alone that advocate overthrowing the US Government and people by force. They just fly under the radar because they don't have the Arab Oil money to fuel their hate and terroristic acts. Research the book "The Turner Diaries" by William Pierce and remember that there are hundereds of thousands of people who believe and worship this shit. The ideas in this book fueled the McVeigh and Nichols bombing and currently fuel tons of idiots nationwide. I've worked cases involving these idiots several times over the last few years. If they ever get the funding - they will be much deadlier than foreign terrorists.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

It's insane--This show's taint.

[Spurminator]

Man, this is like bizarro Focus on the Family...

[mookie2001]

also Country Clubs laptops return key is broken, then you have to bring up the ol virtual keyboard and click on it, so i just type, like this, you know

[smeagol]

I dont think ive ever fooled anyone to thinking I use puncutation, and I learned one thing, people love 24
Dude, your take was stupid.

Get it over with and move on.

[MannyIsGod]

Mookie is my homeboy, while we don't share the same views, i feel i have to add one more thing:

half of you who disagree with him are just all on the 'he's a liberal' thing, when he's not a liberal at all
some of you take what he says and interpret it wrong

basically he believes the degredation of civil rights beginning with the patriot act has not stopped or gone away, and is a constitionalist from the Jonesian school of thought. I dont think he wants to take it off now that its the number one show but its pretty ridiculous to gloss over the fact that some of the content can make impressions on youngins. So what if they make it 'obvious' that camps are wrong? Kids are kids.

If he actually knew how to type and punctuate, im sure he'd get his ideas out more clear.I promise you that I need only 5 minutes to browse through mookie's pop culture to see shit that would be inappropriate for children. There's no point to be made there. Its obvious that much of the violence on 24 isn't suitable for children, but he's pissed off because they round up Muslims on the show.

Nevermind that they depict that in a bad light, the fact they that depict it at all is horrible. Thats why I think his statements are full of ignorance. He's never seen the show and he's complaining about something that they depict in a horrible light. That is pretty damn stupid. Its not even about me liking 24, its about Mookie bashing something in a ridiculously ignorant way and advocating (and then back pedalling) censorship. He sounds like Sean fucking Hannity himself.

CBF, you and I both know very well why Mookie dislike's 24 and it has nothing to do with the content and everything to do with the fact that the show is popular. Mookie loves to bash shit like that.

[mookie2001]

oh no not smeagol too, maybe yall could get whottt in here too

like I said -talking specifcally about muslims being tortured captured and rounded up


if thats a theme of the show, and it is, then the show sucks, and KIDS HAVE NEVER SEEN that before, unlike sex and violence- and i scoffed yall for liking 24, youre right manny, look at the people who were posting in here, they love 24 the most, in a thread about it, in the CLUB of SPURSTALK.com!, I really couldnt scoff 24 today anywhere else because it didnt come up...

[MannyIsGod]

oh no not smeagol too, maybe yall could get whottt in here too

like I said -talking specifcally about muslims being tortured captured and rounded up


if thats a theme of the show, and it is, then the show sucks, and KIDS HAVE NEVER SEEN that before, unlike sex and violence- and i scoffed yall for liking 24, youre right manny, look at the people who were posting in here, they love 24 the most, in a thread about it, in the CLUB of SPURSTALK.com!, I really couldnt scoff 24 today anywhere else because it didnt come up...Translation: I'm finally starting to understand I opened my mouth about something I apparently know nothing about and am going to backtrack.

Apology accepted Mookie. I owned you more than UT's football team got owned this year.

[mookie2001]

what backtracks?

[mookie2001]

something I apparently know nothing aboutwhats that?, you mean 24?

[Leetonidas]

you know perfectly well that millions of kids watch that shit with no supervision and millions more watch it with their chickenhawk parents creaming on themselves everytime they torture someone or blow up a muslim
I used to be 10 years old. 10 year old kids do not watch 24 and other anti-terrorist war and crime dramas, dude. :shootme

[LaMarcus Bryant]

It's insane--a ten year old's taint

[2centsworth]

He sounds like Sean fucking Hannity himself.

what show does Sean want censored?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Well, considering the 19 hijackers of 9/11, the bombing of the USS Cole, etc.

Your 2 homegrowns against at least 25 Muslims.

Thats 12.5 to 1 and I am severly rounding down. So assumptions about who is and who isnt a terrorist are pretty specific. Being of middle-eastern decent and Muslim makes you 1250% more likely to be a terrorist when compared to being of European decent and Christian.

Thats an underestimation and its still striking. The stereotype is valid.


When you look at the 'terrorists' as a percentage of the Muslim world, the stereotype is not valid. It's about as valid as racially profiling black people who walk into a liquor store, assuming they're going to rob it.

[Clandestino]

Last weekend, I saw a brief on Headline News about a new comedy sitcom (I think it was Canadian) about Muslims produced and written by Muslims that was gaining in popularity.

Little Mosque on the Prairie?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Little Mosque on the Prairie?

That's it.

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October 2, 2006

OTTAWA, (AFP) - Canada's public broadcaster CBC hopes to lighten religious tensions between this country's Christian majority and Muslims with a new sitcom, "Little Mosque on the Prairie."

The show is a parody of the acclaimed US drama "Little House on the Prairie" (1974-1983), starring Michael Landon and Melissa Gilbert, about the life and adventures of the Ingalls family in the 19th century American West.

But instead of raising pitchforks, tumbling down hills and selling eggs at the general store, this fictional Muslim family struggles to find its place in Canada's vast western prairies in a post-September 11, 2001 world.

CBC spokesman Jeff Keay said Monday the broadcaster has ordered eight episodes and will begin airing them in January.

"The producers recognize that this is a potentially sensitive topic," Keay said.

The Roman Catholic pope Benedict XVI's recent comments on Islam, an alleged Toronto terror plot foiled in June and attacks on mosques have divided Canadians lately, he acknowledged.

"But, the show is a comedy. We hope people will laugh," he said.

Liverpool-born filmmaker Zarqa Nawaz wrote and produced the satire.

Her previous films include "BBQ Muslims" about two brothers who are suspected of being terrorists after their barbecue blows up, and "Real Terrorists Don't Belly Dance."

Her production company is called Fundamentalist Films; its motto is to put the "fun back into fundamentalism," according to its website.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/02102006/323/canada-s-little-mosque-prairie-aims-ease-religious-tension.html

[smeagol]

oh no not smeagol too

Yes, me too. Your take was that stupid.

You like to come accross as the champion of free speach and here you are advocating censorship.

Bottom line: Stupid take from a hypocrite.

Deal with it.

[mookie2001]

we've always had censorship on tv, bottom line 24 is watched by neocons and chickenhawks everywhere

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

we've always had censorship on tv, bottom line 24 is watched by neocons and chickenhawks everywhere

Dumb post.

[smeagol]

we've always had censorship on tv, bottom line 24 is watched by neocons and chickenhawks everywhere
Manny and JB 47 are not neocons.

My folks in Argentina watch it. They are not necons (my mother has no clue what a neocon is).

The kind of censorship you're advocating is stupid.

[Spurminator]

Lots of Neocons watch UT Football, too.



Corso.

[Kori Ellis]

we've always had censorship on tv, bottom line 24 is watched by neocons and chickenhawks everywhere

You think I'm a neocon, but I've never watched 24.

So does that make me more liberal? :fro

[johngateswhiteley]

we've always had censorship on tv, bottom line 24 is watched by neocons and chickenhawks everywhere


i don't think you have ever made a post without the word neocon in it.

[mookie2001]

i don't think you have ever made a post without the word neocon in it.thanks brah



alright then neocons DONT watch 24, the average viewer is for peace