Game Blog - Spurs vs Rockets

[nkdlunch]

at least none of us paid money to go see this game :lol

I did! :bang fucking cable ain't free

[MannyIsGod]

Great dish. D UP.

[fred33]

Pop Rotation At The Beginning Of The Fourth Each Game

[ShoogarBear]

Fuck, here comes T-Mac.

[SAtown]

Does anyone else cringe when Finley shoots?

[milkyway21]

wtf is with the lineup oberto is playin good and elson subs ini was thinkin' the same thing late in the 2ndQ :cry :wtf

i had 4 pts 4 minutes into the game

:lol

[ShoogarBear]

Fuck, here comes T-Mac.

[01Snake]

Here comes McGrady.

[Fillmoe]

how many times is tim duncan gonna get the mutombo finger?

[01Snake]

Game Over

[MannyIsGod]

God damn. I hate watching games like this.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

that's game

[boutons_]

Tracy's hot, GAMEOVER.

[Leetonidas]

The Spurs finally get their heads in it and McGrady decides now is the time he's gonna catch fire. Ain't that a bitch.

[Fillmoe]

MCGRADY! wheres bruce bowen to place a carefully placed leg under a jumpshooter?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

WOW, after watching Tmac on TV it shows me what a great job Diawara has done on him this season when they have played the Nuggets

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Freakin T-Mac is on fire damnit...

[Tek_XX]

Fire pop.

[nkdlunch]

http://www.postmortemstudiorental.com/images/Instruments/13%20inch%20dagger%20blade.JPG

[boutons_]

Pretty much this same rotation won 63 games last season.

[dg7md]

Last year was our year to win it. If we did? We would have repeated, Finley would have had a title, 4 titles overall. Now we are pretty much screwed for the next 5 years because Pop went smallball.

I predict 25 losses this year.

[SAtown]

love it

You bitches come in at the end and talk shit.

[ShoogarBear]

God damn. I hate watching games like this.

Oh, well. At least they'll be showing Romo's bobble on SportsCenter tonight.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Who is checking T-Mac you got to make him pass the damn ball.

[SpursWillOwn]

we're fucked

[fred33]

Pop Must Change His Rotation

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Pop should listen to Aggie and get rid of the Small Ball plan

[Extra Stout]

The Spurs lose every game they play against good teams.

When I called them second-round playoff fodder, I might have been generous.

[Leetonidas]

WTF the Rockets did not have posession!

[01Snake]

Dude didn't even have possession.

[themvp]

Maybe will this loss help at trading someone.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

come on Spurs! it aint over!

[gilmor]

I think Pop must go so that we have a chance to win at the end. His 4th quarter rotations is just atrocious..

[Spurologist]

So Hayes called timeout when he lost the ball. Got it.

[Fillmoe]

shane battier with a smart play calling that timeout

[milkyway21]

no, actually i started the rockets vs spurs thread and the person who started this one said i couldnt do it so,,,,,,,,,,,


HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!we like you to shut up :lol

[ChumpDumper]

no, actually i started the rockets vs spurs thread and the person who started this one said i couldnt do it so,,,,,,,,,,,


HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yeah, but you are a bitch and you are coming in at the end.

There is no rockets vs spurs thread.

[SAtown]

no, actually i started the rockets vs spurs thread and the person who started this one said i couldnt do it so,,,,,,,,,,,


HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF? I've been here the whole time. You're being a cheap bitch, so I'll pull out the: 3 rings BITCH

[MannyIsGod]

Shoot The Fucking 3 Brent.

[Borosai]

These guys are stinking up the place. The crowd should chant "REFUND" and get their money back. The Spurs are about to get swept, at home, by both the Mavs and Rockets...that's wowifying. Everyone throwing up weak shit, even the almighty Duncan who continues to play as though he retired already. Robinson is rolling over in his grave...or at least in his seat.

I hate the words "quite frankly" (thanks S.A.S.hole), but quite frankly these guys blow.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Why does it look like the spurs are sleepwalking half the time?

[ShoogarBear]

Brent is the master of the scared pass to the other team.

[themvp]

Why does it look like the spurs are sleepwalking half the time?

Because they are.

[milkyway21]

looks like i will lose another vbookie tonight :D

[Fillmoe]

Rafer Alston!

[MannyIsGod]

Oh My God

[Tek_XX]

Maybe will this loss help at trading someone.

We've been saying this for a long time.

[Marcus Bryant]

Fuck man this team is so old that Van Gundy has figured out a way to beat it.

[Fillmoe]

Skip To My Lou

[SAtown]

looks like i will lose another vbookie tonight :D

Eh, you got plenty. Give me at least $100, please :downspin:

I need to buy some vbooze with the v$ to get vhammered to drown my vsorrows

[MannyIsGod]

I want to see some fight. I just want to see some signs that this team is alive and I don't see it.

God damn. This team has no heart. NONE.

[Fillmoe]

Van Gundys COMBOVER >>>> POPABITCH

[dg7md]

It's to a point where if they lose I don't even care, I know our days of dominance are long gone.

[milkyway21]

if we lose tonight i can confirm that this team NEEDS improvement to win in the playoffs.

lost to a depleted Lakers
losing tonight too?

:lol

[Fillmoe]

offensive foul

[dg7md]

GODDAMIT, there goes our chance!

[Leetonidas]

Dumbasses.

[Marcus Bryant]

How does our franchise not get that call in our building?

[ShoogarBear]

Fuck man this team is so old that Van Gundy has figured out a way to beat it.

This team is so old that Dikembe Mutumbo helps them across the street.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Still have a game here lots of time left.

[Fillmoe]

shit was a fumble

[Tek_XX]

1st round lose.

[ShoogarBear]

Way to stand around while everyone else dives for the ball, Tim.

[MannyIsGod]

Houston is fucking stupid for taking quick shots. Too bad awe can't get a fucking rebound.

Well, Bowen, Parker, and Manu do show heart. Too bad tehre are 12 people on a fucking team.

[Leetonidas]

Oh yeah, wonderful shot you fucking moron.

[Tek_XX]

How does our franchise not get that call in our building?

refs don't respect pussies.

[MannyIsGod]

The Rockets are trying their hardest to let us back into this game, and the Spurs jsut don't want it.

[Fillmoe]

foul? skip got raped

[Leetonidas]

The intensity the Spurs are showing now is fucking frustrating. Why can't they play like this the other 43 minutes of the game?

[SAtown]

FUCKING A! They're giving us so many chances to get back into this SHIT

[Marcus Bryant]

because its a rule, its called charging, and it even applies to timmy boy

Sure, when the defender is actually set.

[davemaniscool]

here comes the whining, lol.

mavs4never

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

dang it. Rockets back on the winning track without Yao :depressed

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Here come The Spurs...

[MannyIsGod]

That charge on Tim wasn't even close. You can't get that call anywhere.

[boutons_]

"Spurs try to pull one out", their heads out of their asses.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

we had SO many oppurtunities to take the lead but whatever


at least we're chipping away

I just hope there's enough time

I also wish brent wasn't so damn passive with taking some of those potential 3's a few minutes earlier

[MannyIsGod]

The intensity the Spurs are showing now is fucking frustrating. Why can't they play like this the other 43 minutes of the game?Are you kidding me? 3 of them are showing intensity. Tim stood around while the rest of the players on the court were on the floor scrapping. WTF was that?

[Supergirl]

Yahoo fucking sucks tonight. They keep fucking the score up and can't seem to update regularly.

[DubMcDub]

Sure, when the defender is actually set.

He WAS set. You dont have to be standing still for 20 seconds to be "set". He established legal position and he was straight up in the air.

[Marcus Bryant]

No he wasn't.

[milkyway21]

i dont even think the refs can bail yall out of this one.you are a perfect example WHY Dallas Mavericks fans are hated on this forum.

was there a time when the refs love the Spurs?

[Borosai]

I want to take a second and thank Dear Baby Jesus for providing porn for the masses.

Amen.

[MannyIsGod]

That was an easy charge to call. Seriously.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

The intensity the Spurs are showing now is fucking frustrating. Why can't they play like this the other 43 minutes of the game?

I was thinking the same thing at least half the game.

[Leetonidas]

Are you kidding me? 3 of them are showing intensity. Tim stood around while the rest of the players on the court were on the floor scrapping. WTF was that?
Well, none of them have done anything until this point. Now, even if it's just three of them, they're trying. :pctoss

[themvp]

How much left?

[Leetonidas]

DUNCAN AND ONE!!!

Woot!

[SAtown]

And The Foul Baby!!!!

[boutons_]

Bruce chokes on his 3G

[SequSpur]

Out of a timeout.. needing a bucket and you give it to Bowen????????

OMFG.

[Fillmoe]

houston is choking...... and they will still win

[ShoogarBear]

I can't believe McGrady took that shot, even if he hit it.

[milkyway21]

Tim and TMac alomst have the same stats

32pts ; 7 rbds and 3 assts. :D

[anonymous coward]

to late spusies

[Vinnie_Johnson]

4 point game 1.29

[SAtown]

Brruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[MannyIsGod]

Oh My God

[Fillmoe]

wow at how bad houston is choking

[Marcus Bryant]

Yes, Bruce Bowen.

Dumbass.

[ChumpDumper]

Game blog??????????????????????

[Leetonidas]

DUNCAN AND ONE!!!

Woot!

FUCK YEAH! THAT'S DEFENSE BABY!

[ShoogarBear]

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Focking GREAT STEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

GO DUNCAN!

come on spurs!

[nkdlunch]

bowen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MannyIsGod]

Don't tease me. Please don't tease me.

[SAtown]

All you doubters on SPursTAlk, WTF

[boutons_]

Bruce makes it up!! :lol

[midgetonadonkey]

He still sucks.

[ShoogarBear]

We owe Houston one of these, baby!

[MannyIsGod]

LATE FUCKING CALL.

What the fuck?

[01Snake]

Brick

[Fillmoe]

they almost backcourted.... got bailed by a foul

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Houston going Dallas Mavs.

[midgetonadonkey]

Bowen blows.

[MannyIsGod]

Ouch. Fuck.

[Fillmoe]

hit it and the foul!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD NIGHT SAN ANTONIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[themvp]

Yes!!!

[MannyIsGod]

Where's the fucking foul?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

everything falls apart

[Leetonidas]

Fucking PHANTOM CALL! BULLSHIT! :pctoss

[ShoogarBear]

Where's the foul?

[boutons_]

Bowen fucks up again, 3 pt play for Tracy.

[SAtown]

What foul? Who has the lazy eye, Tmac or the ref?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Tmac is unconscious

[dg7md]

Welp...

[ChumpDumper]

:lol at mavfan peeing his pants in glee.

[SuperManu!!!]

Bowen fucked up

[MannyIsGod]

God fucking damnit. That wasn't a foul.

[Jobbs]

Fuckkkkkk

[Leetonidas]

Such fucking bullshit. There was absolutely NO FOUL on T-Mac.

[nkdlunch]

http://www.apexrg.com/ebay/Dragon%20Claw%20Dagger%20Full.jpg

[boutons_]

-5 , 55 secs left.

[tlongII]

He's just a fabulous player.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

well, get a bucket and a 3

we can do this

[milkyway21]

your kidding right?i only joke around my friends.. :lmao

[MannyIsGod]

Bowen fucks up again, 3 pt play for Tracy.Yeah, Bowen fucked up by not fouling and having a foul called against him. Fucking Bowen.

[ace3g]

I know that is basically the same thing he did against Dirk in the semi finals last year,

[SequSpur]

To bad Bonner isn't available... we need him for this play.... :lmao

[Extra Stout]

I just wiped my ass and got a better defender than Bruce Bowen.

You know, you could only see that the Spurs would be needing a new small forward like three years in advance. Great job by the front office letting Bruce age into a freaking cadaver.

[midgetonadonkey]

Bowen fucks up again, 3 pt play for Tracy.

Because Bowen sucks.

[Marcus Bryant]

Get a stop dammit.

[SuperManu!!!]

Give the ball to manu and just get the fuck out of the way

[dg7md]

Goddamit...

[SAtown]

What the fuck are they doing taking a 2????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[01Snake]

PUSSY! Take a fucking three

[MannyIsGod]

Ok, thats a horrible final possesion. HORRIBLE.

You take the 2 LATE after you waste time?

What the fuck?

[tlongII]

How many players can hold T-Mac to 37 points? He's marvelous.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Not good..

[Fillmoe]

Game Over!

[Leetonidas]

If that was not the stupidest fucking play the Spurs have come up with then I don't know what is. What a bunch of morons. My God.

[Jobbs]

why no time out?!?!?!

Fire Pop!

[Tek_XX]

OMG Spurs won't make the playoffs.

[MmP]

Yea, but you keep it in the game and makes the play of the game.

[midgetonadonkey]

Bowen should never start another game. Barry>>Bowen

[01Snake]

Why call a TO? The game is fucking over.

[anonymous coward]

:smokin

[nkdlunch]

Yea, but you keep it in the game and makes the play of the game.

to lose it anyway.

they deserve to lose this game. FUck the suck ass SPurs that play this bad

[SequSpur]

How many players can hold T-Mac to 37 points? He's marvelous.

Yeah Bowen The Stopper!!!!!! :lmao

OMFG.... :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Those of you ragging on Bruce are insane. If you think there is a player in the NBA who could have done a better job on Tmac you're absolutely incorrect.

[Leetonidas]

Stupidest play ever. Stupidest I've ever seen. That was fucking horrid.

[milkyway21]

LAST 10 PLAYS (Last Play on the Bottom)
Team Time Play
HOU 1:32 Tracy McGrady made Jump Shot, Assist Rafer Alston
SA 1:30 Bruce Bowen missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
SA 1:30 Offensive Rebound by Tim Duncan
HOU 1:30 Shooting foul on Shane Battier
SA 1:30 Tim Duncan made Layup
SA 1:30 Tim Duncan made Free Throw
HOU 1:13 Lost ball turnover on Tracy McGrady, Stolen by Bruce Bowen
SA 1:09 Tim Duncan made Layup, Assist Tony Parker
HOU 1:09 Shooting foul on Juwan Howard (2 PF)

i can see how Duncan wants to win this one :cry

[Extra Stout]

Do you notice how the Spurs sit around with their thumbs up their butts, and then only start trying the last 5 minutes of the game?

Sure, guys, you can flip the switch. :rolleyes Whatever.

[Borosai]

Now that's clutch.

[Supergirl]

:09.5 HOU - R. Alston hit the first free throw
:22.4 SA - T. Duncan defensive rebound
:23.9 HOU - R. Alston missed a 16-foot jumper from the top of the key
:49.9 SA - M. Ginobili drives to the hoop for a layup
:55.0 SA - Shooting foul on B. Bowen
:55.0 HOU - T. McGrady made a 20-foot jumper from the left wing. Assist: R. Alston

WTF Yahoo? Who made the shot after Duncan got the rebound? What the fuck happened, you dumbasses?

[Burn531]

Anybody notice that shirt the guy had on behind the announcers? :lol :lol

[anonymous coward]

Bowen should never start another game. Barry>>Bowen

yep, one of your biggest problems is the sf position.

[SequSpur]

Those of you ragging on Bruce are insane. If you think there is a player in the NBA who could have done a better job on Tmac you're absolutely incorrect.


Yeah, he could've had 50 on anybody else.. :lmao

[ShoogarBear]

You would think after watching a decade of great defense, Spur fans would recognize the difference between bad defense and an unstoppable player.

[MannyIsGod]

That final possesion was horrible coaching. You have to talk about what you do in that possession in the prior time out if you're not going to take a TO there. The team must know that you take a quick 2 and foul or you take the fucking 3, but you can't run down the clock and then take a 2. Thats the worst scenario.

Take a time out and talk it over, you don't get to save the TO for the next close and very important game.

[Fillmoe]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Those of you ragging on Bruce are insane. If you think there is a player in the NBA who could have done a better job on Tmac you're absolutely incorrect.


Yakhoube Diawara, he already has done a better job twice this season :smokin

Can't shoot the 3 like Bowen but his D on Tmac (and others at times) has been superb

[spyder]

Spurs Blow

[davemaniscool]

I want my time warner cable bill pro-rated :lol

[SequSpur]

Parker just passed up 2 chances to dish for Pop....

:lmao

[dg7md]

Duncan's gonna get his season ending injury in a few games, thus making us lose 80 percent of our next games, then we get the top draft pick and get Oden, only to make the 07-08 season our reign back into dominance.

[MannyIsGod]

Finley needs to go. Seriously. He needs to be burried on the end of hte bench because right now he's a huge negative on this team. It's not that he doesn't add anything to this team, its that he's subtracting so god damn much when he's on the court.

[fred33]

POP ROTATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FOURTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! each it's -10 with this rotation

[KB24]

Get ready to get BITCH SLAP again on SUNDAY in LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

Duncan's gonna get his season ending injury in a few games, thus making us lose 80 percent of our next games, then we get the top draft pick and get Oden, only to make the 07-08 season our reign back into dominance.

More likely we are going to see the team continue to slide as the Spurs wallow in this purgatory between trying to win it all and avoiding committing much to build the supporting cast.

[dg7md]

lmao, yea, now thats what i call a plan.

87 - Robinson
97 - Duncan
07 - ???

[ducks]

spurs do not need oden
they need duncan to rebound the ball
nice o game but you are 7 foot 9 rebounds..

[Spurologist]

Fo Needs To Make A Fucking Trade.

[Extra Stout]

Those of you ragging on Bruce are insane. If you think there is a player in the NBA who could have done a better job on Tmac you're absolutely incorrect.
Bruce plays good solid defense, still. He just no longer has that extra something that bothers the elite scorers and throws them off a little bit.

And without that, he doesn't add enough in other areas of the game to be effective anymore.

I just can't believe we're shocked that a 36-year-old perimeter player has lost a step. The Spurs should have seen this coming for years. For years, even folks on this forum have been railing on the need for a long 3, because Bowen was getting up there in age.

And now he's old, and has lost a step, and can't make the difference on defense.

The same sort of thing applies to other players in the Spurs' rotation.

Oh, well, at least Holt got his luxury tax dividends. And three titles aren't too bad.

Once upon a time, Tim Duncan was promised that the front office would put a surrounding cast around him every year that at least would make the Spurs contenders. That was his condition for staying in San Antonio.

I wonder how Tim would look in purple and gold, next to Kobe and Lamar Odom?

[fred33]

POP ROTATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FOURTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! each it's -10 with this rotation pop is not doing aa great job

[MannyIsGod]

A trade isn't going to cut it. This team is not one player away right now. They're really way further back than that. This team right now is a borderline 2nd round playoff team. With an unfavorable matchup (and in the West thats likely) I'm not sure they can win a 7 game series.

[KB24]

Lakers > Spurs

[Borosai]

Play James White already...regardless of what he has yet to learn, he can't do worse than these guys...especially Finley and Beno. At least he would play his ass off and match some of the athleticism on other teams.

Oh, and trade someone please. The bench is bad and unreliable.

[Extra Stout]

Hmm... Grant Hill's contract is expiring... maybe Tim could give Orlando another look.

[Marcus Bryant]

Oh, well, at least Holt got his luxury tax dividends. And three titles aren't too bad.

And one of the best NBA arena deals to boot.




Once upon a time, Tim Duncan was promised that the front office would put a surrounding cast around him every year that at least would make the Spurs contenders. That was his condition for staying in San Antonio.

I wonder how Tim would look in purple and gold, next to Kobe and Lamar Odom?

Exactly. Not hard to see why TD seems a little disinterested this year. Any true competitor would be when he knows his commitment is not shared by the organization.

[ChumpDumper]

Play James White already...regardless of what he has yet to learn, he can't do worse than these guysYou'd be surprised.

[joeyjfive]

Play all 48 minutes. Its thats fucking simple right now Spurs.

[Spurologist]

A trade isn't going to cut it. This team is not one player away right now. They're really way further back than that. This team right now is a borderline 2nd round playoff team. With an unfavorable matchup (and in the West thats likely) I'm not sure they can win a 7 game series.

What's going to cut it? The spurs have completely lost their edge that was always there to will them through many games. This lineup needs some kind of shake up and could even get blasted out of the first round.

Simply pathetic

[ploto]

That final possesion was horrible coaching. You have to talk about what you do in that possession in the prior time out if you're not going to take a TO there. The team must know that you take a quick 2 and foul or you take the fucking 3, but you can't run down the clock and then take a 2. Thats the worst scenario.

Take a time out and talk it over, you don't get to save the TO for the next close and very important game.
While I don't understand Pop not calling a time out, I also would expect professional NBA players will years of experience to know what all the viewers knew.

[1Parker1]

A trade isn't going to cut it. This team is not one player away right now. They're really way further back than that. This team right now is a borderline 2nd round playoff team. With an unfavorable matchup (and in the West thats likely) I'm not sure they can win a 7 game series.

:tu Looking at them tonight, I don't even think a trade would help. If we had done the Corey Magette trade, you think he would have helped the Spurs win tonight? I highly doubt that...

Part of the reasons Pop has such horrible rotations is because he has no idea who to go to! NO ONE is playing well consistently for the Spurs, including Tim Duncan. No one is playing with any passion, including Manu Ginobili. No one is setting great plays up for 48 minutes, including Tony Parker. No one is playing smart basketball, including Robert Horry. No one is playing great defense for 48 minutes, including Bruce Bowen.

Look at the Mavs...have they gotten complacent with a 7 game win streak?

Look at the Suns...have they gotten complacent with a 15 game win streak?

I don't care if you have 3 championships and an Annual Rodeo trip coming up in which you usually "turn it around." You shouldn't have to wait for an 8 game road trip to get you to play motivated basketball.

[fred33]

pop is not doing aa great job pop

[ploto]

Exactly. Not hard to see why TD seems a little disinterested this year. Any true competitor would be when he knows his commitment is not shared by the organization.
I am beginning to wonder how more than just Tim feels about what the front office has done lately.

[dbreiden83080]

You know i have taken it easy on the Spurs this year so far but this effort makes me want to beat my fucking head against a wall so hard i'll have to file for disability. They said it during the telecast where the hell is the hardnose effort for 48 min they only start playing when they are down big. Lets review tonights game here, MANU SUCKED, TONY SUCKED and oh yeah as usual THE BENCH SUCKED. The only guy who earned his fucking gamecheck was Timmy, we are in trouble heading into this trip.

[milkyway21]

why some of you are blaming Duncan for losing this game? 37 pts, 10 rebounds people :tu

how about our men in the middle? Elson & Horry?

Parker who came alive too late, & Finley?

and will at least can explain to me why Pops chose to sit Oberto so early in the game when obviously he was having an early big game tonight?

BTW, is Bowen getting old?

[MannyIsGod]

While I don't understand Pop not calling a time out, I also would expect professional NBA players will years of experience to know what all the viewers knew.That is correct. They looked lost and scared on that possesion.

[fred33]

don't blame duncan blame parker manu and the rotation but blame pop for his rotations since the spurs haS the old ball the team struggle -6fg%

[ShoogarBear]

Magette would have made a huge difference in a game like tonight's.

When nobody could hit the broad side of a barn in the 2nd and 3rd, he could have picked up some cheap points at the line.

And having anybody else out there for Finley's minutes couldn't hurt.

[milkyway21]

I am beginning to wonder how more than just Tim feels about what the front office has done lately.same thoughts. I can feel a near Timmy asking for trade before his contract expires if this continues

[bigfundamental21]

You know i have taken it easy on the Spurs this year so far but this effort makes me want to beat my fucking head against a wall so hard i'll have to file for disability. They said it during the telecast where the hell is the hardnose effort for 48 min they only start playing when they are down big. Lets review tonights game here, MANU SUCKED, TONY SUCKED and oh yeah as usual THE BENCH SUCKED. The only guy who earned his fucking gamecheck was Timmy, we are in trouble heading into this trip.


It's gonna be a hell of a road trip with the teams we've got coming up. If the rest of the team doesn't get on board on this trip, it will be an early summer. It is gut check time.

:ihit

[fred33]

don't blame duncan blame parker manu and the rotation but blame pop for his rotations since the spurs haS the old ball the team struggle -6fg% YEAHH

[Spurologist]

:tu Looking at them tonight, I don't even think a trade would help. If we had done the Corey Magette trade, you think he would have helped the Spurs win tonight? I highly doubt that...

Part of the reasons Pop has such horrible rotations is because he has no idea who to go to! NO ONE is playing well consistently for the Spurs, including Tim Duncan. No one is playing with any passion, including Manu Ginobili. No one is setting great plays up for 48 minutes, including Tony Parker. No one is playing smart basketball, including Robert Horry. No one is playing great defense for 48 minutes, including Bruce Bowen.

Look at the Mavs...have they gotten complacent with a 7 game win streak?

Look at the Suns...have they gotten complacent with a 15 game win streak?

I don't care if you have 3 championships and an Annual Rodeo trip coming up in which you usually "turn it around." You shouldn't have to wait for an 8 game road trip to get you to play motivated basketball.

So your point is the spurs are perfectly fine the way they are?? Just curious.

[dbreiden83080]

same thoughts. I can feel a near Timmy asking for trade before his contract expires if this continues

He is too loyal for that if they do go out early in the playoffs which i still doubt will happen i am sure Timmy will implore the FO for change and to spend money in the FA market.

[1Parker1]

So your point is the spurs are perfectly fine the way they are?? Just curious.

Of course not. I'm saying that a trade is not going to be enough. Spurs need to start changing their game plan if they want to win more games. They need to play for 48 minutes and play every game equally, why they have trouble doing so is beyond me. They need better ball movement, intensity, and an energizer off the bench.

Oh, and it would help if Elson actually learned to play some defense and set decent screens.

[ploto]

Oh, and it would help if Elson actually learned to play some defense and set decent screens.
Spurs had a big man who played good defense and set very good screens- Spurs fans celebrated when he was gone.

[Kori Ellis]

...

Oh, and it would help if Elson actually learned to play some defense and set decent screens.

:tu

[1Parker1]

:tu

I'm not even kidding when I say I cringed at some of the screens he was setting for Parker/Ginobili.

Also, that one inbounds play in the second quarter, I believe, where Rafer Alson made a shot with about 5 seconds on the clock. Elson was LITERALLY GUARDING NO BODY on that play. His back was to the basket and there wasn't even a Rockets player with 3 feet of him. WTF??????

[fred33]

Pop Rotation Is A Huge Probleme Each At The 4th -10

[milkyway21]

i give mark cuban the credit for that bit of strategy. it was a great move. not only did we get better, we made the spurs worse(sad but true)when can you shut up? or at least make a decent post? .


These guys were talking about on how to improve the team, what the problem is, and you are inserting the Mavericks and making jokes that's not even funny.

BTW, Cuban is a loser. Dirk is still a choker. Until you win a title, then you can start making jokes about this team. Behave.

[ploto]

I'm not even kidding when I say I cringed at some of the screens he was setting for Parker/Ginobili.

I got blasted early in the season for saying that I had finally witnessed a big man who is worse at setting screens than Nazr.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm not even kidding when I say I cringed at some of the screens he was setting for Parker/Ginobili.

Also, that one inbounds play in the second quarter, I believe, where Rafer Alson made a shot with about 5 seconds on the clock. Elson was LITERALLY GUARDING NO BODY on that play. His back was to the basket and there wasn't even a Rockets player with 3 feet of him. WTF??????

His D sucks and his rotations suck more.

Everyone gets all excited about him because he can run and dunk. But he honestly can't stay on the floor with how clueless he is defensively.

[Kori Ellis]

I got blasted early in the season for saying that I had finally witnessed a big man who is worse at setting screens than Nazr.

I think I actually agreed with you:lol

[1Parker1]

Pop Rotation Is A Huge Probleme Each At The 4th -10


Actually, I think it's more of the 3rd quarter that he has difficulty with.

In the Dallas game, we had a 10 point lead at halftime. Pop puts in a crazy lineup of Finley, Barry, Bowen, Ginobili, and Oberto or something ridiculous and the Spurs end up losing the lead.

Same thing against the Sixers and Celtics past two games. 3rd quarter he puts in a weird lineup and our double digit lead goes down to single.

Part of the reason could be that Pop really has limited options right now with who to play seeing as Horry and Finley are combined for 34% shooting, Barry can play ZERO defense, and Beno is useless. However, that's why Pop should seriously consider giving Duncan/Parker/Ginobili more minutes and making sure that he always has at least two of them on the floor to give the Spurs somewhat of a constant offense. But he hasn't been doing that....:(

[Kori Ellis]

However, that's why Pop should seriously consider giving Duncan/Parker/Ginobili more minutes and making sure that he always has at least two of them on the floor to give the Spurs somewhat of a constant offense. But he hasn't been doing that....

Did you see I just said that in another thread?

It was always a priority in the past for him to always have 2 of the big 3 out there at almost all the time. And it was very effective. Now he leaves one of them out there alone and the bench isn't good enough to do that.

He needs to get back to that philosophy of keeping at least 2 of the 3 on the court.

[1Parker1]

His D sucks and his rotations suck more.

Everyone gets all excited about him because he can run and dunk. But he honestly can't stay on the floor with how clueless he is defensively.


Oberto has the opposite problem. He sets great screens and his rotations are also good, but he's too undersized to really be an impact in the middle and alter shots when Bowen and Company funnel players to the middle. Due to Oberto and Elson's inefficiences, Tim is looking worse defensively in the middle and constantly getting dunked on.

Heck, Rafer Alson looked like an All Star tonight against our defense!

[SequNets]

I think I actually agreed with you:lol

He sets a screen but leaves before the screen takes place. :wtf

[1Parker1]

Did you see I just said that in another thread?

It was always a priority in the past for him to always have 2 of the big 3 out there at almost all the time. And it was very effective. Now he leaves one of them out there alone and the bench isn't good enough to do that.

He needs to get back to that philosophy of keeping at least 2 of the 3 on the court.


I hadn't realized you said that too. Great minds think alike? :)

The only reason I can see why he's not doing that is maybe he wants to either give them more of a rest to be ready in the 4th quarter or he wants to give the bench more time to produce and grow. I'm thinking it is probably due to the latter, but he could still play Finley/Horry/Barry with any combo of the big three.

[1Parker1]

He sets a screen but leaves before the screen takes place. :wtf


:lmao :lmao That's exactly it! I couldn't even find a way to describe it, but I think you just said it perfectly. It's almost comical to watch.

Although in his defense, I think Elson looks a bit nervous/scared on the defensive end. Perhaps because I'm sure he's gotten more than his share of lashing at from Bowen, Duncan, and Pop. :lol

[ploto]

I think I actually agreed with you:lol
You did!

[dbreiden83080]

I still can't fucking believe they lost this game what the hell is wrong with these guys with 3 min to play you can see they were into it and almost won, where was that the rest of the game.

[SequNets]

:lmao :lmao That's exactly it! I couldn't even find a way to describe it, but I think you just said it perfectly. It's almost comical to watch.

Although in his defense, I think Elson looks a bit nervous/scared on the defensive end. Perhaps because I'm sure he's gotten more than his share of lashing at from Bowen, Duncan, and Pop. :lol

I think Elson is reading a playbook and forgets what is actually going on... I think alot of Spurs are in this mode.

[SequNets]

I still can't fucking believe they lost this game what the hell is wrong with these guys with 3 min to play you can see they were into it and almost won, where was that the rest of the game.

Tmac.

[johnpaulwall21]

tmac loves going off against dez spurs

[ponky]

i watched the game while doing some work on my laptop. just saw the boxscore and was surprised that the FTAs were low for both teams, 14. duncan had 10 of those...did parker not drive to the hole tonight? what about manu? wtf happened with those two because obviously duncan had a great game, despite not making that last shot

[johnpaulwall21]

parker and gino were takin out of the game and settled for jump shots. manu was poor from the outside

[timvp]

Where has the fire gone?

:madrun

[johnpaulwall21]

Up there with the 3 Championship banners

[mFFL03]

T-mac loves going off against everyone.

I don't think you all saw the other night when he had 32 at the beginning of the 3rd quarter in Dallas.

Once he starts making all of his shots, the team gets so dangerous, because of double teams and kick outs for wide open 3's. I wish the Rockets the best in the coming years, but this is our year thank you.

[ShoogarBear]

Where has the fire gone?

:madrunThe roof, the roof.

[Marcus Bryant]

Where has the fire gone?

:madrun


http://www.nba.com/media/spurs_970517_370.jpg

Remember that day? I forget if Holt went with the fist pump or the imaginary slot pull.

[cornbread]

This is a little off subject but I need to vent this my Spurstalk brethren.

I went to the game tonight and was pretty bummed out as I realized that my "Going to the Game" record over 5 games has now gone to 1-4. Pathetic. The atmosphere was tense as Rocket fans chanted and Spurs fans grumbled. As I walked to the car, I'm thinking things can't get worse and then a huge fight breaks out right in front of me. I figured some of the rowdy Rockets fans were fans mixing it up with Spurs fans but there was no Rockets apparel amongst the combatants. I'm left to assume that it was Spurs Fan-on-Spurs Fan violence. In our own parking lot no less. This disturbed me more than Pops decision to once again, go small.

[johnpaulwall21]

was the fight at least bad ass? if so explain the situation.

cornbread sounds good right now for some reason :wakeup

[cornbread]

It was a pretty crazy fight, by anybody's standards. It's hard to gauge how many people were throwing down. I'd say at least 6. One older guy got pretty jacked by two younger guys. Then as the younger guys moved on and started throwing down with some other folks, the old guy took off his belt and started swinging the buckle around like a mace. Then he slipped and fell on his on ass before he even got close to the guys he was going after, which was pretty funny and also a little sad. The shit was really getting crazy and violent at this point so I moved on and told the parking attendents to get some cops over there.

This fight was pretty embarassing. As Spurs fans, I've always thought that we hold ourselves to a higher standard that began with the D-Rob era and the example that he set and other followed. This was disgraceful.

[ChumpDumper]

Which ones were the Parker fans and which ones were the Manu fans?

[johnpaulwall21]

man i wish the spurs would throw down like that. well that had to be better than the outcome of the game right? i would be laughin my ass off.

[johnpaulwall21]

it was probably one parker fan against all those manumaniacs
The parker fan said "manu had a bad game" and that was all she wrote!
he got his ass tore up
:wakeup

[cornbread]

man i wish the spurs would throw down like that. well that had to be better than the outcome of the game right? i would be laughin my ass off.

It was damn funny when the guy started swinging his belt. But fights get disturbing when somebody's getting their head kicked in by like 3 people. And there were your typical Spurs Grannies and families with kids trying to get their cars and these guys were flying all over the main walkway in the northeast parking lot. It just pissed me off. The Spurs should be winning. We should be high-5-ing each other and telling the Rockets fans to enjoy the ride home. We should NOT be fighting our own fans in our own parking lot after an embarassing loss.

[cornbread]

it was probably one parker fan against all those manumaniacs
The parker fan said "manu had a bad game" and that was all she wrote!
he got his ass tore up
:wakeup

:lol You could be right about that.

[johnpaulwall21]

It was damn funny when the guy started swinging his belt. But fights get disturbing when somebody's getting their head kicked in by like 3 people. And there were your typical Spurs Grannies and families with kids trying to get their cars and these guys were flying all over the main walkway in the northeast parking lot. It just pissed me off. The Spurs should be winning. We should be high-5-ing each other and telling the Rockets fans to enjoy the ride home. We should NOT be fighting our own fans in our own parking lot after an embarassing loss.


Well this is a new Dark age for us, something we havent felt like in about 11 years.