Mavs @ Bulls Game Blog

[T-Pain]

mavs sucked tonight, i was expecting a closer finish, i think TNT is shittin their pants right now

[dallaskd]

i would take greg buckner over the entire spurs bench anyday


amen :toast

[SAtown]

Come on Mavs fans! You can match all the pissing and moaning most people did around here last night, can't you? All the "wwwwaaaaaaaaa, we lost a regular season game against a team worse than us, waaaaaaaaaaa, we're worse than our record indicates, waaaaaaaaaaaa!"

Congrats on not being gay.

[ponky]

Why go there? :dramaquee

moi? i believe a suns fan came in here talking shit about dirk.

[lurker]

That game was all kinds of embarrassing. :lol

[ponky]

Come on Mavs fans! You can match all the pissing and moaning most people did around here last night, can't you? All the "wwwwaaaaaaaaa, we lost a regular season game against a team worse than us, waaaaaaaaaaa, we're worse than our record indicates, waaaaaaaaaaaa!"

Congrats on not being gay.

LMAO, post of the night, you just made me laugh when I should be at least a little pissed about the loss tonight.

[dallaskd]

bye bye. fuck yall. pheonix will lose in the next few games. i dont care who they play. every one on there schedule sucks untill the play us in march. whats the mavs record vs the suns this year???









2-0 biotches!!!!!!





spurs still suck.

[ponky]

That game was all kinds of embarrassing. :lol

bound to have one of those per season...let's just hope it's only one!

[dallaskd]

**post game rant**

[dallaskd]

bye.

[dallaskd]

im posting alot today.

[ducks]

D. Nowitzki 33 5-17

[dallaskd]

bye bye

[SirChaz]

Nash isn't a champion. He got owned by the mavs last year. He is a definition of a regular season player. Once teams figure him out he is worthless.


Well then let me know when Dallas figures him out. It hasn't happened yet.

[ponky]

D. Nowitzki 33 5-17

your point?

[johnpaulwall21]

oh helllllllllllllll yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:elephant :smokin :elephant :smokin :elephant :smokin :elephant :smokin :elephant :smokin

[dallaskd]

we figued him out pretty well.

he used to play here.

[dallaskd]

^quote sir chaz there.

[dallaskd]

Well then let me know when Dallas figures him out. It hasn't happened yet.

[SAtown]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse for you dallas fans..... BAM, Steve Kerr.

[ponky]

Well then let me know when Dallas figures him out. It hasn't happened yet.

I highly doubt we'll be playing a seven game series in the first roundagainst a great team like the Rockets while the Suns sweep a shitty eam like the Grizzlies this year. JHO is much improved since two years ago when his name mentioned along with All-Star would've been laughed off. It's not like you guys didn't try to beat us the two times we've met this season, don't act like you didn't. It's not like the Suns have done anything to figure out the Mavs so why should we be any more concerned about the Suns than you guys would be about us?

[johnpaulwall21]

this made my night :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :wakeup

[johnpaulwall21]

but props to the mavies for holding there own in there :wakeup

[ponky]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse for you dallas fans..... BAM, Steve Kerr.

please explain.

[ponky]

this made my night :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :wakeup


too bad that road trip happens in 72 hours...hold on tight!

[SirChaz]

we figued him out pretty well.

he used to play here.


Still gets his numbers. Take 3 of the top 7 off the Mavs and see how they are figured out.


If the mavs have as much problem with the Suns as you have with the quote feature they are in trouble. ;)

[SAtown]

please explain.

03 WCF?

[ponky]

03 WCF?

and that fact that he's on tv with marv? haha, please, i like kerr, have always liked him despite his pwnage of the mavs that year...mavs would've lost anyway, no dirk

[johnpaulwall21]

shit we're going to hell and back when that happens but im happy right now

[SAtown]

and that fact that he's on tv with marv? haha, please, i like kerr, have always liked him despite his pwnage of the mavs that year...mavs would've lost anyway, no dirk

I know, I'm just messin with ya :smokin

[ponky]

Still gets his numbers. Take 3 of the top 7 off the Mavs and see how they are figured out.


If the mavs have as much problem with the Suns as you have with the quote feature they are in trouble. ;)

just like the insecure faction of the suns fans to come in here and talk shit, lmfao...of course nash still gets his numbers, he's one helluva baller...so is dirk and last time i checked, he still gets his numbers as well against the suns...if you weren't so insecure you'd just say mavs and suns are playing the best ball right now, period, leave it at that...but you think you have something to prove, be my guest

[johnpaulwall21]

:smokin so am i ponky why dont u join us :smokin

[ponky]

I know, I'm just messin with ya :smokin

lol, i will admit, i thought i was going to lose my shit when i saw him make all those 3s...i was at the game and wanted to cry (haha!) but whatever, it was pretty amazing and i'm glad i was there to see it

[ponky]

:smokin so am i pokey why dont u join us :smokin

lemme down a couple of more shots...i hate when we lose and there is no btb, now i have to wait TWO days!

[SirChaz]

just like the insecure faction of the suns fans to come in here and talk shit, lmfao...of course nash still gets his numbers, he's one helluva baller...so is dirk and last time i checked, he still gets his numbers as well against the suns...if you weren't so insecure you'd just say mavs and suns are playing the best ball right now, period, leave it at that...but you think you have something to prove, be my guest


WTF?

I wasn't even talking to you.


Do you have a point somewhere?


1K said Nash has been "figured out" and I disagreed. Who is insecure?

[SAtown]

lol, i will admit, i thought i was going to lose my shit when i saw him make all those 3s...i was at the game and wanted to cry (haha!) but whatever, it was pretty amazing and i'm glad i was there to see it

I ate pizza and drank a shit load of tequila with my girlfriend that night (drank almost a bottle by myself cuz we were sucking it up). When Kerr started hitting those 3s, I threw it all up while laughing and screaming. It was disgusting, but I'll never forget it. :vomit:

[da_suns_fan__]

Suns played the Bulls in Chicago and were in a very similar situation...down the whole game...not shootin well, down by nine to start the fourth.

Nash didn't hang his head or yell at his teammates, he brought his team back. Did what it took to win.

Up 2-0 nothing with a completely healthy team in the finals, Nash wouldn't have choked.

Just wait and see.

[ponky]

Suns played the Bulls in Chicago and were in a very similar situation...down the whole game...not shootin well, down by nine to start the fourth.

Nash didn't hang his head or yell at his teammates, he brought his team back. Did what it took to win.

Up 2-0 nothing with a completely healthy team in the finals, Nash wouldn't have choked.

Just wait and see.

See, now why couldn't Nash do that against the Mavs this season? He's had two opps? Please explain while I go get something to drink.

[RonMexico]

last time i checked, the bulls might do what your team couldn't

Yeah, but at least ours could overcome a bad shooting night with team play and defense in the United Center.

The Mavs proved in their comeback that they can only rely on 3 people to get them back into hit. Suns had Barbosa hit a game winning shot to beat the Bulls.

[RonMexico]

See, now why couldn't Nash do that against the Mavs this season? He's had two opps? Please explain while I go get something to drink.

That wasn't all Nash's fault - there were mental mistakes by a lot of other players and Nash can't do everything 1-on-5 against the Mavs because it's a team game and the Mavs are a good team (also, Nash isn't D-Wade - i.e. blessed with those physical and foul-drawing abilities).

He did make two great passes (alley-oop to Amare and bounce pass to Marion with a few seconds left) in the 4th quarter, but Dirk just hit a tough shot to win the game.

When Diaw fouled out, it left Nash as basically the only playmaker out there (Barbosa was a little skittish that game), and it's tough to win on the road like that. However, if this were the WCSF (like 2 years ago), I have a feeling Nash would have a lot in the tank to have pulled that one out, but we've all said numerous times on here that it doesn't "count until the playoffs" ;)

[ponky]

Yeah, but at least ours could overcome a bad shooting night with team play and defense in the United Center.

The Mavs proved in their comeback that they can only rely on 3 people to get them back into hit. Suns had Barbosa hit a game winning shot to beat the Bulls.

Um, you do realize that the Mavs' defense is what kept them in the game with a sub 30% shooting right? They closed it to four still shooting under 30%. 3 people? You wanna bitch cuz you think the Mavs can only rely on 3 guys? Let's narrow that to one guy. Take Nash out, take Dirk out, play each other or just the same team...you think the Suns are going to top the Mavs in that kind of scenario? No, I didn't think so. There's a reason Nash is so VALUABLE, think about it before blindly giving him props.

[ponky]

That wasn't all Nash's fault - there were mental mistakes by a lot of other players EXCUSE #1and Nash can't do everything EXCUSE #2 1-on-5 against the Mavs because it's a team game and the Mavs are a good team (also, Nash isn't D-Wade EXCUSE #3- i.e. blessed with those physical and foul-drawing abilities).

He did make two great passes (alley-oop to Amare and bounce pass to Marion with a few seconds left) in the 4th quarter, but Dirk just hit a tough shot to win the game.

When Diaw fouled out, it left Nash as basically the only playmaker out there REDUNDANT EXCUSE #4(Barbosa was a little skittish that game OOH, A NEW EXCUSE), and it's tough to win on the road like that EXCUSE?. However, if this were the WCSF (like 2 years ago), I have a feeling Nash would have a lot in the tank to have pulled that one out, but we've all said numerous times on here that it doesn't "count until the playoffs" EXCUSE;)

take cover, here comes the excuses aka bullshit
http://www.vortrupp.de/humor/pics/bullshit.jpg

[RonMexico]

Yes, Nash is valuable because he can do other things besides attacking exercise bikes, herky jerky drawing of fouls or shooting. Thanks for reminding me. Also Marion is valuable because he doesn't need to score alot for the Suns to win... unlike Josh Howard who seemed lost out there when he wasn't making shots. Thanks for reminding me why Marion should be an all-star this year.

[RonMexico]

take cover, here comes the excuses aka bullshit
http://www.vortrupp.de/humor/pics/bullshit.jpg

Oh ok, I see how it is. You can act bitter cause your team pussified it tonight and attack Nash for "not beating the Mavs by himself in two regular season games" but I can't give the Mavs props for having a good team while also saying that Dirk hit a game winner and Nash was doing all he could in that December game? Nice job reverting to the levels of stretch and dirk4mvp.

Let's not even forget when Nash got called for an offensive foul in Phoenix when Jason Terry jumped on his back, because that would just be making excuses.

[ponky]

Oh ok, I see how it is. You can act bitter cause your team pussified it tonight and attack Nash for "not beating the Mavs by himself in two regular season games" but I can't give the Mavs props for having a good team while also saying that Dirk hit a game winner and Nash was doing all he could in that December game? Nice job reverting to the levels of stretch and dirk4mvp.

Let's not even forget when Nash got called for an offensive foul in Phoenix when Jason Terry jumped on his back, because that would just be making excuses.

Nah, I'm not mad about my team's loss at all, games like that happen every once in awhile, no need to invest any more time on the game. What is annoying, is some Suns fan coming in here and dissing Dirk unprovoked like he sucks. Am I going to respond? Hell yes. Anyway, you're the loser who makes excuses about officiating, *skittish* players (whatever THAT means) and tired guards who can't play 1-5 ball...it WAS 1-5 back in December right? :rolleyes

Stretch and dirk4mvp just get down to your level, there are much more knowledgeable and cool Suns fans on the board than the whiner with Marcus Vick as his avatar.

You wanna see pissed off after a loss? Don't make me pull up your old threads.

[dallaskd]

Yes, Nash is valuable because he can do other things besides attacking exercise bikes, herky jerky drawing of fouls or shooting. Thanks for reminding me. Also Marion is valuable because he doesn't need to score alot for the Suns to win... unlike Josh Howard who seemed lost out there when he wasn't making shots. Thanks for reminding me why Marion should be an all-star this year.


head-to-head:

Mavs:2
Suns:0

Enough said.

[ponky]

head-to-head:

Mavs:2
Suns:0

Enough said.

hey, you happy bosh made it? that was pretty sweet.

[dallaskd]

hey, you happy bosh made it? that was pretty sweet.

yeah. he went to my high school.

[Amare_32]

See, now why couldn't Nash do that against the Mavs this season? He's had two opps? Please explain while I go get something to drink.

Both teams are evenly matched. The Mavs won on the last possesion. A bounce here and there and the game being in Phoenix instead of Dallas and maybe the game goes the other way. I like the Suns chances in the WCF versus the Mavs as much as Mavs fans should like thiers. Thats why homecourt is so important in the West. I think HCA will play a big part in deciding the Western Conference Champs. As long as Nash and Amare are healthy the Suns have a great chance.
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[ponky]

Both teams are evenly matched. The Mavs won on the last possesion. A bounce here and there and the game being in Phoenix instead of Dallas and maybe the game goes the other way. I like the Suns chances in the WCF versus the Mavs as much as Mavs fans should like thiers. Thats why homecourt is so important in the West. I think HCA will play a big part in deciding the Western Conference Champs. As long as Nash and Amare are healthy the Suns have a great chance.

You're like Switzerland, haha. Nice points. Ron Mexico has always been a little whiner about several things, pay no attention to my comments, they are for him.

[mavsfan1000]

Both teams are evenly matched. The Mavs won on the last possesion. A bounce here and there and the game being in Phoenix instead of Dallas and maybe the game goes the other way. I like the Suns chances in the WCF versus the Mavs as much as Mavs fans should like thiers. Thats why homecourt is so important in the West. I think HCA will play a big part in deciding the Western Conference Champs. As long as Nash and Amare are healthy the Suns have a great chance.
Home court sure made a big difference last year for the mavs. :rolleyes

[CubanMustGo]

head-to-head:

Mavs:2
Suns:0

Enough said.


Oooh, by your logic this must be equally valid:

NBA Championships:

SA: 3
Mavs: 0
Suns: 0

Therefore SA > Mavs/Suns :king


In reality, history is mostly irrelevant. The team that will win the championship this year is the one playing the best at the end of the season. Right now it's a tossup between the Mavs and the Suns. By the end of the season, though, who knows. Dirk could break his ankle, Nash could wear down toward the end of the season, Duncan's PF could come back.

[Amare_32]

Home court sure made a big difference last year for the mavs. :rolleyes


True but that was due more to the fact the Mavs got rattled and worried about Wade getting calls then playing thier game. If the Mavs play the Heat again the outcome will be different. In the West homecourt will be important. Dallas no more wants to play Game 7 in Phoenix then Phoenix wants to play in Dallas.
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[RonMexico]

Nah, I'm not mad about my team's loss at all, games like that happen every once in awhile, no need to invest any more time on the game. What is annoying, is some Suns fan coming in here and dissing Dirk unprovoked like he sucks. Am I going to respond? Hell yes. Anyway, you're the loser who makes excuses about officiating, *skittish* players (whatever THAT means) and tired guards who can't play 1-5 ball...it WAS 1-5 back in December right? :rolleyes

Stretch and dirk4mvp just get down to your level, there are much more knowledgeable and cool Suns fans on the board than the whiner with Marcus Vick as his avatar.

You wanna see pissed off after a loss? Don't make me pull up your old threads.

Ummm, I meant one against 5... not the record of the team.

Obviously, I am a much more knowledgeable basketball fan than some kind of homer you try to purport me to be. Barbosa was skittish - he hasn't stepped up in the big games yet and I hope that he eventually corrects that.

Stretch is just Charley Rosen with profanity.

[RonMexico]

You're like Switzerland, haha. Nice points. Ron Mexico has always been a little whiner about several things, pay no attention to my comments, they are for him.

Puh-lease. I only have emulated the posts of June 2006 by all Mavs fans on this board. Tasting your own medicine must not be sweet, huh?

[T-Pain]

hey guys Mavs lost!!!

[RonMexico]

Just wait until Rosen uses this single game against the Bulls to make a sweeping argument about the Mavs, then you'll see a little of why I'm bitter. I hate having a sworn enemy's homer (Rosen nuts over the Lakers) trying to write "legit journalism" on the worst online sports outlet and act like it's gospel.

I seriously predict one about the Bulls game shortly.

[Amare_32]

Just wait until Rosen uses this single game against the Bulls to make a sweeping argument about the Mavs, then you'll see a little of why I'm bitter. I hate having a sworn enemy's homer (Rosen nuts over the Lakers) trying to write "legit journalism" on the worst online sports outlet and act like it's gospel.

I seriously predict one about the Bulls game shortly.

Rosen will have the Bulls winning the Finals tomorrow. I don't listen to stuff like that. All of these so called expert opinion and NBA Final picks are all subjective.
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[ponky]

Puh-lease. I only have emulated the posts of June 2006 by all Mavs fans on this board. Tasting your own medicine must not be sweet, huh?

Tasting my own medicine? Way to generalize about all Mavs fans as surely I do not. You and da_suns ghetto fab boy are the worst Suns fans on the board. da_suns_fan is just pure homer and you're just pure excuses and whining. I understand the insecurity though, Mavs fans went through this when Nash was a part of our team, that is not to say, that it was because of him, because it wasn't. When's the last time you gave the Mavs some props? And making excuses about Nash while pointing out a fact (that Dirk shot a 3) doesn't count. Just curious. I've given the Suns lots of credit, all the time, not a complete homer like you.

[RonMexico]

I'm not a complete homer, but I remember what it was like when this team went to the Finals 13 years ago and the parrallels are striking. Forgive me for enduring double duty from Mavs and Spurs fans the past 3 years about the Suns style and "defense wins championships." Dirk shot a 2... the score was 101-99, in case you forgot. I just have to be their only defense on this board because it's full of a ton of bleating homers from the DFW area and panhandle.

I give the Mavs props a lot when they deserve it, but I also call out their bullshit (i.e. Josh Howard's cockiness and Dirk's inability to win the big one yet, oh and Cuban's a complete hypocrite) when they deserve it. I said Dirk hit that shot because Marion didn't play the right D, but I also said that when one of the Suns key guys fouled out (Diaw), they lost their ball movement and the Mavs got back into it. How is that an excuse? You were calling out Nash for "not winning twice against Dallas this year" when I was pointing out specific instances where he kept them in that game in the final minutes.

If it's being a homer to applaud your two-time MVP when he makes key passes (and rip on Raja/Barbosa for making dumb mistakes), then you obviously haven't been to mavtalk.com in a long time and read some of the bullshit that comes spewing out of that anus of the internet.

[RonMexico]

By the way, the only games I "make excuses" for are the Mavs games because I so desperately want the Suns to win those. I don't make excuses when they lose to lesser teams, but the Suns haven't given me an opportunity this year because they've won 32 of their last 34 games!! I don't think you realize how rare these streaks are (and the Mavs were on the verge of only the 2nd 3-time 10+ win streaks in history before blowing it tonight).

You don't hear me pissing about close games to the Blazers or Knicks or Rockets. In fact, you were the one pissing that the Suns should have lost those games "if key players weren't out."

Your ideas of excuses are ridiculous: you can say "well, if T-Mac were playing, the Rockets would have kicked your ass." But I can't say, "Well, if Diaw didn't foul out maybe the Suns would have had a better chance against Dallas"??

That makes no fucking sense. Stop trying to preach on the morals of fandom before you take a look in the mirror. The only game you'll see me bitch about in the past is the Suns-Mavs game... and I even told everyone the night before that I was going to get wasted and if A&M and the Suns lost, then be prepared for a huge venting, which I delivered.

The only arguments I make otherwise are ones as to why every media personality from Hollinger to Legler to Greg Anthony to Eddie Johnson proclaim the Suns as the best in the league right now. You guys read this and then start bitching and call up "Blogfish" to come to the rescue. I've never seen a bigger whine than the POS that nameless author left out there.

You don't see me make excuses that A&M lost to Tech by 2 in a game they should have won two nights ago... no, in fact I simply was pissed at their missed FTs and poor execution down the stretch. I've always said that team can win the Big 12 as long as they start knocking down FTs... still came up to bite them in the ass. I'm not just some big homer, but at least I offer an intelligent and different point of view than the one you get in the Austin-American Statesman or from Tim Cowlishaw.

[ponky]

I'm not just some big homer, but at least I offer an intelligent and different point of view than the one you get in the Austin-American Statesman or from Tim Cowlishaw.

LMFAO, Austin-American Statesman? Yeah dude, my grandparents subscribe to that but I get the WSJ, NYTimes and Financial Times delivered to my house each morning and for some international papers that I like to read like El Pais and Le Monde, I have the internet. Anyway, keep writing those commentaries waxing and waning about your Suns, I don't have time to bother with you right now. We'll talk come playoff time when all this tit for tat will be laid to rest.

[da_suns_fan__]

Ponky doesn't get it.

Nash doesn't win every game. Dirk doesnt lose every one of his.

Nash, however, NEVER gives up. Its one of his best qualities. When it looks like all hope is loss, he doesn't piss and moan like Dirk does, he refuses to accept defeat.

This is why the Mavs (again, with a COMPLETELY HEALTHY team against a weak Miami opponent) blew the NBA finals. Dirk faced some adversity and folded.

Meanwhile, the Suns were labeled as the team of resiliency. Every time it looked like they were about to go down, they came back. Eventually, they suffered just too many injuries (three starters and were down to six players in their rotation) and lost to the Mavs. But even then, Nash came to play and didn't pout because he got the short end of the injury stick.

[Shank]

Nash, however, NEVER gives up. Its one of his best qualities. When it looks like all hope is loss, he doesn't piss and moan like Dirk does, he refuses to accept defeat.

The 7-foot German, who finished third in the MVP voting in the regular season, hit the free throw to tie it with 21 seconds remaining.

"He willed it to the basket," Mavericks guard Jerry Stackhouse said. "Everybody did something special in this game. It was great to have (Jason Terry) back in the lineup. He came up big."

The Spurs had a chance to win it in regulation. Ginobili drove the basket with about six seconds left. His shot missed, Duncan grabbed the rebound and Nowitzki got a hand in to block what would have been a point-blank game-winner.

It was a redeeming final few seconds for Nowitzki, who had the ball in his hands in Dallas' three losses with a chance to win or tie it in the final seconds.

"I saw everything slipping away, the great season we had," Nowitzki said. "If there's a drive to the lane, just take it in there."

[Shank]

And why do you guys keep bringing up the Heat series? It's over. Dallas lost. This year's Mavs team would take out last year's in a series because they've improved and learned since then. And no matter what you think happened last year, the Heat would beaten the Suns, too.

[Trainwreck2100]

How do you "will a freethrow into the basket" It's a fukin freethrow

[Shank]

How do you "will a freethrow into the basket" It's a fukin freethrow

The paragraph before was referring to the lay-in where he was fouled. I think the quote is about that. Sorry for not posting the whole article, but it's a bit long.