bobby simmons

[phxspurfan]

had a good year with the clips before he went to the bucks. now it seems like he doesnt get much pt. anyone know why? he was averaging over 15pts, 5reb and 1stl /game and could be a valuable addition at the right price.

[Big P]

He's hurt & done for the year.

[MrChug]

Move this thread.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

had a good year with the clips before he went to the bucks. now it seems like he doesnt get much pt. anyone know why? he was averaging over 15pts, 5reb and 1stl /game and could be a valuable addition at the right price.

I'm going to guess it's because he hurt his foot at the start of the season and had season ending surgery, but maybe coach is just trying to send him a message :dizzy

[exstatic]

Actually, it's foot issues. He had a cyst removed, and has suffered PF almost this whole season.

He brings to the table a lot of the good things of Wells or Maggette (rebounding, penetration, FT shooting) without the knucklehead rep they both enjoy. He's also a MUCH better shooter. If his foot thing isn't a major career type thing, give the Bucks a call.

[AFBlue]

Actually, it's foot issues. He had a cyst removed, and has suffered PF almost this whole season.

He brings to the table a lot of the good things of Wells or Maggette (rebounding, penetration, FT shooting) without the knucklehead rep they both enjoy. He's also a MUCH better shooter. If his foot thing isn't a major career type thing, give the Bucks a call.

He also hung his hat on defense and versatility (can play/guard three positions). But he has a big, long-term contract and he has drastically underchieved since getting it.

[RC's Boss]

He makes to much money

[Pugglekicker_21]

never heard of him

[exstatic]

He also hung his hat on defense and versatility (can play/guard three positions). But he has a big, long-term contract and he has drastically underchieved since getting it.
Um, his numbers in Milwaukee weren't much off those of his contract year with the Clips. He played fewer minutes and went to a team with an established wing scorer, which would account for the point drop. His FG%(45%) and 3g%(42%) are more than acceptable.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He also hung his hat on defense and versatility (can play/guard three positions). But he has a big, long-term contract and he has drastically underchieved since getting it.

He moved to a team with Michael Redd, Charlie Villanueva, and Mo Williams on it and his scoring dipped by 3 PPG, rebounds by one per game, and all other stats stayed the same.

Yeah, what an underachiever :rolleyes

[AFBlue]

He moved to a team with Michael Redd, Charlie Villanueva, and Mo Williams on it and his scoring dipped by 3 PPG, rebounds by one per game, and all other stats stayed the same.

Yeah, what an underachiever :rolleyes

Villanueva wasn't on the team until this year, but you're point is well taken.

I stand corrected. He still makes a lot of money though....

[Big P]

He is signed for the next 3 years after this one making..$9.2,$9.9 & $10.6 mil..he is a pretty good player, but he is way overpaid.

[johnpaulwall21]

Hes one of the biggest disappointments since signing his pretty big size contract.
:wakeup

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Villanueva wasn't on the team until this year, but you're point is well taken.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3933

I guess those 2005-2006 stats are made up then.


Hes one of the biggest disappointments since signing his pretty big size contract.
:wakeup

His scoring average went down now that he's playing next to Michael Redd. Yeah, what a disappointment.

There's only two disappointments about Simmons from where I'm sitting:

1. He's out for the year with a bum wheel

2. He's not playing on the Spurs

I love this forum though. You guys will defend a Spurs player, even if he's the last guy on the bench.

But a guy who would be our fourth leading scorer behind the big three, would be the #3 rebounder on the team behind TD and Elson, would be fourth on the team in assists behind the big three, and would be the second best defender on the squad with Bowen (not to mention a guy who could step in and be Bowen's replacement for the next 8 years or so)?

Overrated and a disappointment all the way :lol

[ducks]

bobby should be a spur

[exstatic]

He blows the '08 plan, but I have 3 thoughts on that:

1) Will we get anyone better? Not is anyone better available. Will we get them?
2) He doesn't blow the '10 plan.
3) He's 26, shoots, penetrates, defends, and rebounds.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He blows the '08 plan, but I have 3 thoughts on that:

1) Will we get anyone better? Not is anyone better available. Will we get them?
2) He doesn't blow the '10 plan.
3) He's 26, shoots, penetrates, defends, and rebounds.

:lol

Nice!

[baseline bum]

No way in hell. I thought he was ridiculously overrated in LA, and there's no way he's worth that contract. The guy makes more than Manu. I don't know what the hell Milwaukee was thinking singning this guy to an All-Star contract.

[exstatic]

He makes a tad more than Manu, but then again, he can play more minutes, and put up like numbers. SA will have to pay any FA a like amount to play here, especially if, like Simmons, they are RFAs.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No way in hell. I thought he was ridiculously overrated in LA, and there's no way he's worth that contract. The guy makes more than Manu. I don't know what the hell Milwaukee was thinking singning this guy to an All-Star contract.

He plays more minutes, he's going to be good for another 7-8 years, and he's an all-around good player.

It's a little overpriced, but come on - look at what we're paying guys like Brent.

[x_roux_x]

He plays more minutes, he's going to be good for another 7-8 years, and he's an all-around good player.

It's a little overpriced, but come on - look at what we're paying guys like Brent.

No SHIT! Bring on the B SIM bandwagon!
Who will start the chant first?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Unfortunately it's a pretty pointless discussion, the Bucks won't let him go and Holt would have sticker shock with his contract.

[Marcus Bryant]

He blows the '08 plan, but I have 3 thoughts on that:

1) Will we get anyone better? Not is anyone better available. Will we get them?
2) He doesn't blow the '10 plan.
3) He's 26, shoots, penetrates, defends, and rebounds.


How about the '07 plan (aka winning the championship now)?

[AFBlue]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3933

I guess those 2005-2006 stats are made up then.



Look again a little closer dipshit.... Villanueva played 05-06 as a rookie in Toronto. He was traded to Milwakee in the off-season for TJ Ford. Classic though, how you provided a link to prove how much of a dumbass you were... :lol

[AFBlue]

Look again a little closer dipshit.... Villanueva played 05-06 as a rookie in Toronto. He was traded to Milwakee in the off-season for TJ Ford. Classic though, how you provided a link to prove how much of a dumbass you were... :lol

Speechless AHF?

Damn at least when I'm wrong I own up to it....

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Heh, you bumped yourself. Cute. So I was wrong, shows you how long this season has been as a Spurs fan, it feels like that move was made two years ago.

The point still remains, Bobby went from a team where he was one of the primary guys alongside Brand to being third/fourth fiddle in Milwaukee. There wasn't anyone on the Clips chucking the ball around like Redd does in Milwaukee.

Saying a guy is overrated/a disappointment with the stats that Simmons has (not to mention the fact in the intangibles of him being a great team defender that don't show up on the stat sheet) is pretty ignorant, but typical for this board regarding players not wearing the silver and black.

[baseline bum]

He plays more minutes, he's going to be good for another 7-8 years, and he's an all-around good player.

It's a little overpriced, but come on - look at what we're paying guys like Brent.

There's no way Simmons is just a little overpriced.

Bobby Simmons has always struck me as the type who puts up numbers on bad teams. I was never impressed by his game, and I watched tons of Clippers games when he was there. I would easily take Maggette over him in a second, even if their contracts were reversed.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

There's no way Simmons is just a little overpriced.

Bobby Simmons has always struck me as the type who puts up numbers on bad teams. I was never impressed by his game, and I watched tons of Clippers games when he was there. I would easily take Maggette over him in a second, even if their contracts were reversed.

I would too. But if we could do something to get Simmons that didn't involve the big 3 I'd be all about it as well.

[phxspurfan]

Hmm...I wonder if any of these predictions will ring true.