Concerned with the SF position...

[Tom_Foolery]

Kobe(again) scores effortless 31pts tonite. I'm still trying to figure out why we haven't gone out to do a trade for a younger SF. Bruce's age has really shown this season. I thought the reason why he is starting was specifically for defensive reasons(defending the other team's best scoring g/f), but Bowen hasn't done the job this year.

I know Finley's defense is not anywhere near, but at the same time Finley does demand a defender to guard him. I would be very interested in seeing Finley and Barry on the floor together starting if Manu is really coming off the bench for a couple reasons: 1. Barry and Finley are better offensively
2. Spreading the floor when Duncan gets double-teamed.

Teams are able to double on Duncan and leave Bowen open. With both Barry & Finley on the floor with Duncan, teams would not double on Duncan as much in fear of leaving either barry or finley open. I really like Bowen, but I hope Popovich hasn't forgotten that Bowen's almost 36 years old and he is not able to guard Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Lebron James, and other teams' best scorers. It's like they say: when you have to make your defender work, it affects their offense & energy. I think offense is going to be very important especially when we are not getting the production out of our centers that we need come playoff time. Any thoughts on possibly replacing Bowen with Finley/Barry?

[Kori Ellis]

Bowen made Kobe work tonight. He did a decent job on him ... not awesome but decent. The times when Kobe really got going were actually when Manu was guarding him.

Anyway, I wouldn't even consider starting Finley or Barry over Bowen. The next person who starts over Bowen should be a young, defensive-minded SF. And that probably won't be for a while.

[ducks]

really
bowen shut his ass down with 1.3 seconds left
kobe worked for every shot
some of those shots were very difficult kobe made

[timvp]

:rolleyes

Bowen guarded Kobe about as well as he can be guarded. A lot of Kobe's points were off of double picks where he'd just catch and shoot fadaways. How is Bowen supposed to stop that?

And after starting 10-for-15, Kobe hit only three of his last ten shots. And all three of those were highly contested.

Did Kobe even miss when Manu was guarding him?

[cornbread]

I would be very interested in seeing Finley and Barry on the floor together starting if Manu is really coming off the bench for a couple reasons...

So that next time Kobe can drop 40, maybe 50 points on us.

[Marcus Bryant]

There's definitely reason to be concerned about how the Spurs look at the 3 moving forward. Hopefully they can pick up a prospect with either their 1st or Milwaukee's 2nd in this year's draft. But that's a crapshoot. Maybe they can find a vet under the age of 50 this summer. Of course, that player would have to be willing to sign a 1 year deal. Sanikidze is out there, but I've seen nothing to indicate that he's close to being NBA ready. If the Spurs hadn't fucked around, they could've had Maggette.

[SequSpur]

I'm sorry, but enough of the Bowen love. Dude is getting his ass used almost every game.

Also, why is he getting 20+ touches a game? WTF?

[Darkwaters]

Did Kobe even miss when Manu was guarding him?

Well...there was the block.

[ShoogarBear]

That was Manu helping, not being the primary defender.

[Kori Ellis]

It was weird because Manu, in the past, has pretty decent on Kobe when he's had to guard him. But today, he was horrible when he had to be his primary defender.

That block was sweet redemption though.

The Spurs got banged around a lot today. I hope Manu's face, Tony's hand and everything else heals up quickly.

[Tom_Foolery]

I thought Bowen's defense was ok, not as good as I've seen him play but certainly not as bad as other players in the league. I honestly think the reason why Kobe didn't score as much in the 4th was because Kobe had to guard Manu for quite a while and that took alot of energy out of Kobe during that period. That's just my observation. I am kinda shocked people haven't seen Bowen's defense decline over the last year or so. i'm a loyal fan and that's why I do raise concerns, but i gotta hand it to you guys. you guys are incredibly loyal.

[ducks]

I think most spur fans want to get a younger player to groom to take bowen's place eventually

[smeagol]

When Kobe payed as he did most of the game, he is, the same as Dirk is, unguardable.

[SsKSpurs21]

we should try and workout a trade for mo pete. he is what we really need.

[bigdog]

that young player was supposed to be Linton Johnston,but the Spurs let him go,and now look what hes doing in New Orleans. doing a pretty decent job. and he makes highlight reels with some killer blocks. you never see bowen on the highlights do you?

[cornbread]

you never see bowen on the highlights do you?

Highlights win championships.

[mardigan]

we should try and workout a trade for mo pete. he is what we really need.
????? He cant play d for shit and shoots too much, I dont think he is what we really need. Bowen played pretty damn good d on Kobe, and hit a huge 3 towards the end of the game. Im getting a little tired of these threads everytime the Spurs play a superstar. Do you really expect Kobe, T Mac or Dirk to get held to 10 points? The only thing that will prevent that is the players themselves. It would be one thing if Cuttino Mobley or someone like that dropped 31, but were talking about KOBE BRYANT. Dude scored 81 points. Bowen might be getting old, b ut all these idiots talking about benching him because he cant hold MVP caliber players to 10 points is idiotic

[mardigan]

Highlights prove greatness now?

[Tom_Foolery]

????? He cant play d for shit and shoots too much, I dont think he is what we really need. Bowen played pretty damn good d on Kobe, and hit a huge 3 towards the end of the game. Im getting a little tired of these threads everytime the Spurs play a superstar. Do you really expect Kobe, T Mac or Dirk to get held to 10 points? The only thing that will prevent that is the players themselves. It would be one thing if Cuttino Mobley or someone like that dropped 31, but were talking about KOBE BRYANT. Dude scored 81 points. Bowen might be getting old, b ut all these idiots talking about benching him because he cant hold MVP caliber players to 10 points is idiotic


Well, I'd be happy with anything below their averages for starters.

[exstatic]

31 points on 25 shots isn't exactly a scorching. It's all about how hard you make him work for his points. Kobe's going to get his. You just don't want him scoring his normal pts/FGA of like 1.4

Now, TMac DID spank the ass the other night, going for 37 on 24 shots. That's outstanding.

[SequSpur]

31 points on 25 shots isn't exactly a scorching. It's all about how hard you make him work for his points. Kobe's going to get his. You just don't want him scoring his normal pts/FGA of like 1.4

Now, TMac DID spank the ass the other night, going for 37 on 24 shots. That's outstanding.

thanks einstein.

[Nero]

Bowen made Kobe work tonight.

This is what we say every night now someone goes off on old Bowen. He doesn't shtu anybody down, is a liability rebounding. Trade him NOW!

[exstatic]

thanks einstein.
You're welcome, Borat..or is it Boring?

[exstatic]

This is what we say every night now someone goes off on old Bowen. He doesn't shtu anybody down, is a liability rebounding. Trade him NOW!
Dumbass. You know nothing about the NBA. You don't shut down a premier scorer, ever. Bowen never has. He just makes them work their asses off, and tries not to send them to the line in the process.

[Extra Stout]

Did anyone watch some of those shots Kobe was hitting, or just read about it on the internets? The shots Kobe was hitting on Bowen were extremely high degree of difficulty, fading away, fading sideways, with a hand in his face.

The shots he hit on Manu were much easier.

[TDMVPDPOY]

that luol deng kid would come in handy now......trade!

[picnroll]

Bowen should be banned from putting the ball on the floor for more than two dribbles or any dribbles toward the basket. Teams are baiting him to drive now knowing he makes bad decisions and passes.

[SenorSpur]

My problem with Bowen is that after all this time playing basketball, he has yet to develop any type of consistent dribble drive skills. He's better than he was in years past, but he's still devoid of a consistent mid-range game. It's either 3-pt shot or bust. This causes him to go long stretches without taking a shot. Can't have players on the court who can't or don't shoot.

[ChumpDumper]

Bowen haters are the bottom feeders of the Spurs internet universe.

[cheguevara]

Isn't every year the same? Spurs fans with low bb IQ asking why Bowen is on the court?

[bdictjames]

I hate Bowen's frequent left-handed layup drives to the basket though, that makes me cringe. He should stick to three pointers

[redskinfan]

Bowen is the greatest he should play all 48 minutes and POP and RC rock should be executives of the year every year!

[ArgSpursFan]

Bowen made Kobe work tonight. He did a decent job on him ... not awesome but decent. The times when Kobe really got going were actually when Manu was guarding him.

Anyway, I wouldn't even consider starting Finley or Barry over Bowen. The next person who starts over Bowen should be a young, defensive-minded SF. And that probably won't be for a while.

let´s go after nocioni next year..... :clap

[Pugglekicker_21]

you dont stop kobe. you merely hope to contain him. and bowens age makes it a tougher job for him than for others

[Tom_Foolery]

31 points on 25 shots isn't exactly a scorching. It's all about how hard you make him work for his points. Kobe's going to get his. You just don't want him scoring his normal pts/FGA of like 1.4

Now, TMac DID spank the ass the other night, going for 37 on 24 shots. That's outstanding.


13 of 25 for 31pts is over 50%, which is above his FG% average.


Like I said, I'd be happy if Bowen kept his man to below his average, pts or FG%.

[Kori Ellis]

13 of 25 for 31pts is over 50%, which is above his FG% average.


Like I said, I'd be happy if Bowen kept his man to below his average, pts or FG%.

If you watched the game, you'd know that Bowen held Kobe to about 15-16. The rest of his point weren't on Bowen.

[Tom_Foolery]

Dumbass. You know nothing about the NBA. You don't shut down a premier scorer, ever. Bowen never has. He just makes them work their asses off, and tries not to send them to the line in the process.


when he's letting his man score above his average (pts & FG%), then i wouldn't necessarily call that "making his man work for his pts". I'd call it an easy day at the office.

[Tom_Foolery]

If you watched the game, you'd know that Bowen held Kobe to about 15-16. The rest of his point weren't on Bowen.


So now I didn't watch the game??? Anyways. Bowen guarded Kobe partly in the 4th but in overtime mostly. I also watched Kobe not have to guard anybody for 3 quarters almost until Manu made him work in the 4th, which I believe took the energy out of Kobe's fire in the 4th.

Kobe scored 31pts in the game. If he scored 15-16pts on Bowen, then obviously he scored the other half of his pts on the other guy(being Manu), which I guess could say that Bowen's defense really wasn't any better than Manu's in this game.

No need for insults, Kori. You're a great person, just stay that way.

[Kori Ellis]

So now I didn't watch the game??? Anyways. Bowen guarded Kobe partly in the 4th but in overtime mostly. I also watched Kobe not have to guard anybody for 3 quarters almost until Manu made him work in the 4th, which I believe took the energy out of Kobe's fire in the 4th.

Kobe scored 31pts in the game. If he scored 15-16pts on Bowen, then obviously he scored the other half of his pts on the other guy(being Manu), which I guess could say that Bowen's defense really wasn't any better than Manu's in this game.

No need for insults, Kori. You're a great person, just stay that way.

:lol What insults? I made a simple statement.


... I guess could say that Bowen's defense really wasn't any better than Manu's in this game.

Except when Manu was the primary defender on Kobe, he didn't miss. Kobe's field goal percentage when Bowen was guarding him was subpar.

[timvp]

In the 35 minutes that Bowen guarded Kobe, Kobe had 15 points on 6-for-18 shooting.

In the 12 minutes that Manu guarded Kobe, Kobe had 16 points on 7-for-7 shooting.

Anymore comments?

Didn't think so.

Game over.

:smokin

[dougp]

In the 35 minutes that Bowen guarded Kobe, Kobe had 15 points on 6-for-18 shooting.

In the 12 minutes that Manu guarded Kobe, Kobe had 16 points on 7-for-7 shooting.

Anymore comments?

Didn't think so.

Game over.

:smokin
You win.

[timvp]

Bowen guarded Kobe partly in the 4th but in overtime mostly.

Bowen and Kobe entered the fourth quarter at the same time. Bowen guarded him for the entire fourth quarter and overtime.


I also watched Kobe not have to guard anybody for 3 quarters almost until Manu made him work in the 4th, which I believe took the energy out of Kobe's fire in the 4th.

Uh, Radmanovic was the main defender on Manu in the fourth and in overtime.


Kobe scored 31pts in the game. If he scored 15-16pts on Bowen, then obviously he scored the other half of his pts on the other guy(being Manu), which I guess could say that Bowen's defense really wasn't any better than Manu's in this game.

16 points in 12 minutes on 7-for-7 shooting is the same as 15 points in 35 minutes on 6-for-18 shooting?

Interesting.

[SAGambler]

Bowen is called on every night to pester and handle the superstar of the opposing team. Is there anyone else in the league that is asked to do this?

No one is going to stop the Kobes, TMacs, Lebrons, and Ray Allens of this world from scoring. But I also believe that no one gets in their heads like Bowen does.

They hit the court knowing they are going to have to work for everything they get.

Yeah, Bruce isn't a youngster any longer. Maybe he has lost a half a step. But I also believe no one in the league works on conditioning the way Bruce does. And this is knowing he isn't going to be called on to score and be a hero, but to simply defend the best of the best the other team has.

Bruce is certainly an example to hold up to kids of what a team player really is. He knows his role and carries it out every night.

[picnroll]

Wouldn't Manu's block of Kobe's shot and the flail attmept at a shot afterwards count as two shot attempts?

[ShoogarBear]

In the 35 minutes that Bowen guarded Kobe, Kobe had 15 points on 6-for-18 shooting.

In the 12 minutes that Manu guarded Kobe, Kobe had 16 points on 7-for-7 shooting.

Anymore comments?

Didn't think so.

Game over.

:smokin:lmao

[timvp]

Wouldn't Manu's block of Kobe's shot and the flail attmept at a shot afterwards count as two shot attempts?

Manu was the help defender.

Manu as a help defender is one of the best in the game. Manu as a primary defender on a top of the line scorer is average at best.

And that's probably being nice.

[ShoogarBear]

Manu was the help defender.

Manu as a help defender is one of the best in the game. Manu as a primary defender on a top of the line scorer is average at best.

And that's probably being nice.Where have I heard that before?

[timvp]

Where have I heard that before?

Probably the last time I said it after Manu got lit up when Bowen went to the bench.

[picnroll]

Manu was the help defender.

Manu as a help defender is one of the best in the game. Manu as a primary defender on a top of the line scorer is average at best.

And that's probably being nice.
True it was help defense but you have to give Manu credit there. He bailed Bruce's ass out on that one.

[timvp]

Argentina should build a statue of Bruce Bowen in the middle of the town square in Buenos Aires because without Bowen, Manu would have to actually defend other shooting guards.

And Manu's status as a basketball God wouldn't be as golden.

[picnroll]

Argentina should build a statue of Bruce Bowen in the middle of the town square in Buenos Aires because without Bowen, Manu would have to actually defend other shooting guards.

And Manu's status as a basketball God wouldn't be as golden.
You sure you're not thinking of Barry.

First time I've seen anyone portraying Manu as a near hapless defender.

[timvp]

You sure you're not thinking of Barry.

First time I've seen anyone portraying Manu as a near hapless defender.

Like I said in this thread, Manu is a very good help defender. As a one-on-one primary perimeter defender he isn't that good. Better than Barry and Finley of course, but not as good of a defender as he's made out to be in the Spurs' current system.

Night in and night out, Manu is put on the other team's worst perimeter player. In that role, he's very good because he can roam and cause havoc.

But a lot of Spurs fans see Manu's defense on par with Bowen's defense ... when in reality, Bowen is still a much, much better defender.

[Kori Ellis]

You sure you're not thinking of Barry.

First time I've seen anyone portraying Manu as a near hapless defender.

I don't think he called him hapless. He called him a great help defender. And an average (or slightly less than average) primary defender if he's on the elite players.

[picnroll]

I'd say he's an above average, not elite, on man defender for his position.

[remingtonbo2001]

Manu is an outstanding help defender. Bowen is a great lock-down defender, or one-on-one, however you want to put it. You guys must be bored. I'm just curious when the "let's trade Bowen threads" start popping up.

[redskinfan]

tomfoolery dont let this get you down buddy they (you know who) gang up and shoot everybody down cause they are always right and everybody else is wrong,only they see the game and we just read about it your opinion is correct to me Bowen's time has come and gone he is worthless about right now LETS TRADE BOWEN!!!!!! :reading

[Kori Ellis]

tomfoolery dont let this get you down buddy they (you know who) gang up and shoot everybody down cause they are always right and everybody else is wrong,only they see the game and we just read about it your opinion is correct to me Bowen's time has come and gone he is worthless about right now LETS TRADE BOWEN!!!!!! :reading

Yeah, Bowen held Kobe to 6-for-18. Let's trade him :rolleyes

[mardigan]

tomfoolery dont let this get you down buddy they (you know who) gang up and shoot everybody down cause they are always right and everybody else is wrong,only they see the game and we just read about it your opinion is correct to me Bowen's time has come and gone he is worthless about right now LETS TRADE BOWEN!!!!!! :reading
Another idiot Spur fan

[redskinfan]

Yeah, Bowen held Kobe to 6-for-18. Let's trade him :rolleyes


Yeah I have to admit Bowen played his best defensive game of the year but 1 out of 46 games is not cutting it! He doesnt want to shoot from corner anymore he tries to drive and screws that up he has clearly lost 1 or 2 steps, It happens players get old quit riding his jock already! do you know him personally or something that you dont want to hurt his feelings? :donkey

[redskinfan]

Another idiot Spur fan


Thank You Mensa!

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah I have to admit Bowen played his best defensive game of the year but 1 out of 46 games is not cutting it! He doesnt want to shoot from corner anymore he tries to drive and screws that up he has clearly lost 1 or 2 steps, It happens players get old quit riding his jock already! do you know him personally or something that you dont want to hurt his feelings? :donkeyYou want Finley and Barry guarding Kobe?

[redskinfan]

You want Finley and Barry guarding Kobe?


why not? they might make Kobe or whoever have to play a little D. :p:

[ChumpDumper]

why not? they might make Kobe or whoever have to play a little D. :p:Kobe won't have to play any D when he drops 82 points on us.

[redskinfan]

Kobe won't have to play any D when he drops 82 points on us.


as long as we get 83 cause no one else will get any points besides him :drunk

[cheguevara]

PPL still bitching about Bowen???

Can't you realize we have no chance in hell in the playoffs without Bowen playing 25+ minutes???????

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah I have to admit Bowen played his best defensive game of the year but 1 out of 46 games is not cutting it! He doesnt want to shoot from corner anymore he tries to drive and screws that up he has clearly lost 1 or 2 steps, It happens players get old quit riding his jock already! do you know him personally or something that you dont want to hurt his feelings? :donkey

He's shot 117 times from corner 3's this year - on pace for nearly the same amount of times as last season (228). And he has hit 45% on his corner threes.

He actually doesn't shoot that often from 2 compared to in the past few years.

But don't let the facts confuse you.

[mardigan]

Apperently no, I dont even know if these people are genuianly Spur fans, Redskin fan I dont think has ever watched a basketball game if he thinks Barry and Finley are better options to guard Kobe than Bowen

[redskinfan]

PPL still bitching about Bowen???

Can't you realize we have no chance in hell in the playoffs without Bowen playing 25+ minutes???????


Dude or Vato we got no chance now he is clearly past his time plus coming off bench he can still maybe give us a little "D" in very limited minutes

[mardigan]

It happens players get old quit riding his jock already! do you know him personally or something that you dont want to hurt his feelings? :donkey
No, you just obviously dont know what you are talking about

[redskinfan]

He's shot 117 times from corner 3's this year - on pace for nearly the same amount of times as last season (228). And he has hit 45% on his corner threes.

He actually doesn't shoot that often from 2 compared to in the past few years.

But don't let the facts confuse you.


Thanks for the stats I was wondering what was taking you so long. :drunk

[cheguevara]

Dude or Vato we got no chance now he is clearly past his time plus coming off bench he can still maybe give us a little "D" in very limited minutes

ok redskin or american indian. Bowen still is the best perimeter defender in the league as of today + he shoots close to 40% from 3. u go ahead and ask for hiim to sit, and see if Pop listens to you :rolleyes

[Kori Ellis]

Thanks for the stats I was wondering what was taking you so long. :drunk

So you just spout out nonsense to be proven wrong?

:lol

I thought you hated this forum and had retired or something.

[redskinfan]

Apperently no, I dont even know if these people are genuianly Spur fans, Redskin fan I dont think has ever watched a basketball game if he thinks Barry and Finley are better options to guard Kobe than Bowen


I watch a lot of basketball and am going to watch it again this Sunday when Chicago and Indy get it on . You big DUMMY :elephant

[redskinfan]

So you just spout out nonsense to be proven wrong?

:lol

I thought you hated this forum and had retired or something.


I still try to check it out. So do you know Bruce and his wife?

[Kori Ellis]

I still try to check it out. So do you know Bruce and his wife?

I know everyone on the Spurs. Don't you?

[ChumpDumper]

this site used to be funny and good reading but now it's just a society of idiots who think that only they know whats wrong with the SPURS and everybody elses opinion means squat. Fuck You!!!!!!

[redskinfan]

ok redskin or american indian. Bowen still is the best perimeter defender in the league as of today + he shoots close to 40% from 3. u go ahead and ask for hiim to sit, and see if Pop listens to you :rolleyes


FIRE POPS ass too!! plus get over yourself if you think Bowen is the best perimeter defender in the league maybe 2 years ago but not now.

[mardigan]

I watch a lot of basketball and am going to watch it again this Sunday when Chicago and Indy get it on . You big DUMMY :elephant
Wow, I really thought from all your comments you were either blind or retarded, I now see though that you are niether, which just makes you probably the dumbest Spur fan on the planet. Good for you, at least your #1 with a bullet at something

[cheguevara]

FIRE POPS ass too!! plus get over yourself if you think Bowen is the best perimeter defender in the league maybe 2 years ago but not now.

ok. please name me the top 3 perimeter defenders in the league as of today.

[redskinfan]

I know everyone on the Spurs. Don't you?


No wonder you never have anything critical to say. Thats cool now I know why

[redskinfan]

ok. please name me the top 3 perimeter defenders in the league as of today.


Kobe,Raja Bell and Battier :hungry:

[redskinfan]

Wow, I really thought from all your comments you were either blind or retarded, I now see though that you are niether, which just makes you probably the dumbest Spur fan on the planet. Good for you, at least your #1 with a bullet at something


:elephant

[Kori Ellis]

No wonder you never have anything critical to say. Thats cool now I know why

I was being sarcastic. And I criticize the Spurs all the time.

[Kori Ellis]

Kobe,Raja Bell and Battier :hungry:

Why do so many NBA coaches disagree with you?

[redskinfan]

I was being sarcastic. And I criticize the Spurs all the time.


Me too!!I still like you and your husband(went to 1 gtg) so dont take this too personal

[redskinfan]

Why do so many NBA coaches disagree with you?


maybe in years past but not now I forgot about artest and kirilinko also I would take any one of those guys over bruce today, wouldnt you?

[mardigan]

Spouting shit doesnt make your opinion valid, or right, I dont always think I am right but at least I try to make valid arguments to back up my statements, you just spout out nonsense with no key arguments or evidence to back it up

[mardigan]

maybe in years past but not now I forgot about artest and kirilinko also I would take any one of those guys over bruce today, wouldnt you?
Not purely as a defender, and AK 47 isnt a perimeter defender

[redskinfan]

Spouting shit doesnt make your opinion valid, or right, I dont always think I am right but at least I try to make valid arguments to back up my statements, you just spout out nonsense with no key arguments or evidence to back it up


look i am not gonna go get stats from years past I am purely spouting from what i see game after game from BB and he clearly stinks now

[mardigan]

Cool, well I guess thats your opinion and your entilted to it, agree to disagree

[redskinfan]

cheguevara what happened dude you never replied are you thinking of something?

[ChumpDumper]

look i am not gonna try to prove my point in any way whatsoever I am purely spouting what i see in football game after football game

[redskinfan]

Cool, well I guess thats your opinion and your entilted to it, agree to disagree


thanks for letting my opinion be

[Kori Ellis]

maybe in years past but not now I forgot about artest and kirilinko also I would take any one of those guys over bruce today, wouldnt you?

If I was starting a team from scratch, I'd take someone younger. If I wanted a defender this season, I'd take Bruce.

[redskinfan]

:elephant

:elephant damm that was good dumpchumper!

[cheguevara]

Kobe,Raja Bell and Battier :hungry:

kobe better defender than Bowen? :lmao
Bell and battier are good and younger but not better, but Bowen is cheaper and still even in your book top 3 defender in the league. I guess I shouldn't expect a redskin fan to know much about DEFENSE :smokin

[redskinfan]

kobe better defender than Bowen? :lmao
Bell and battier are good and younger but not better, but Bowen is cheaper and still even in your book top 3 defender in the league. I guess I shouldn't expect a redskin fan to know much about DEFENSE :smokin


30 minute for that reply :hang Kobe is far superior defensively right now if I were you I would edit that shit right out of there before everyone laughs at your dumb ass :blah

[nkdlunch]

Kobe far superior defensively than Bowen???

damn crack must be cheap in DC

[cheguevara]

30 minute for that reply :hang Kobe is far superior defensively right now if I were you I would edit that shit right out of there before everyone laughs at your dumb ass :blah

U sure told me, redskinfan. Your brilliance in basketball topics is astounding.

[redskinfan]

Kobe far superior defensively than Bowen???

damn crack must be cheap in DC




ok maybe i exaggerated a little but Kobe still is better with the "d" dont be foolish.

[Spurs da champs]

I have to agree completely with redskinfan,Bowen is just defense one dimensional,and he can't create a shot for himself. There are other defenders besides bowen that can actually play defense and offense. Ex Raja,and Artest.
Also sorry for bumping this but it's true.

[SPURSGOAT]

I have to agree completely with redskinfan,Bowen is just defense one dimensional,and he can't create a shot for himself. There are other defenders besides bowen that can actually play defense and offense. Ex Raja,and Artest.
Also sorry for bumping this but it's true.

From the beginning of 2007!? :sleep :rolleyes

[wildbill2u]

Why don't we make an offer for RFA Dornell Wright of Miami?

[Spurs da champs]

From the beginning of 2007!? :sleep :rolleyes

How the fuck does that offend you? Dumb ass....:rolleyes

[ChumpDumper]

It bored him.