Spurs vs Jazz Game Blog

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

what a dumb foul by tony

I know I've said it before, but damn. You are a fucking idiot.

[VaSpursFan]

that was a horrendous call...and fucking late too...wtf???

[Amuseddaysleeper]

we're fucking winning this game


there is no way we lose this shit

[spyder]

and the academy go to..Okur

[Spurologist]

FUCK the REFS today. FUCK FUCK FUCK.

You let players decide the game. Okur shot it early to prepare himself for an oscar and the refs handed him the hardware. Bailout.

FUCKIN BULLSHIT

[hitmanyr2k]

After all the contact the refs have let go in this game they're going to call that shit?!? Jesus.

[mavs>spurs2]

That's where Tony needs to think like a veteran and be more careful. Sure, it was definately a flop but he did have his arm in Okur's stomach.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

God boutons, if I pay for it will you go out and get laid?

:lmao

[Admidave50]

there is no fucking foul!!!!!!!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

eh Duncan pulled the same acting shit on Dallas, Tony shouldn't have touched him

[MannyIsGod]

Td!

[mFFL03]

::cough:: no carlos boozer either tonite kids...just a reminder...

[angel_luv]

Timmy!!!!!!!!!!!

[01Snake]

Fuck!!!!

[mookie2001]

okur

[TDfan2007]

big shot by Tim there and a big rebound too... but Okur answers with a 3.

[angel_luv]

Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mFFL03]

Ooooooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[50 cent]

Motherfuck.

[Leetonidas]

Mehmet Okur is such a fucking faggot.

[Jimcs50]

I am tired of Okur always beating us with late shots....

[mavs>spurs2]

Nice 3pt shooting by both teams...

[VaSpursFan]

u have got to be shitting me...okur always gives us fits...FUCK!!

[boutons_]

okur's killing us again. been here, done that

[MannyIsGod]

God Okur kills us. Everytime.

[milkyway21]

Mehmet Okur made 3-pt. Jump Shot (29 PTS), Assist Deron Williams (4 AST

:cuss

[SequSpur]

typical.

[anonymous coward]

its over, its over, its over, its over, its over :elephant

[mavsfan1000]

Okur owns San Antonio. Freaking clutch ass shot.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

heh heh, can't complain. The Jazz are really taking it to us.

[Leetonidas]

::cough:: no carlos boozer either tonite kids...just a reminder...
And you just barely beat the worst team in the West by 1 point. STFU.

[TDfan2007]

yeah, so, no stops in the final 1:30 and the Spurs expect to win? Pathetic.

[MannyIsGod]

::cough:: no carlos boozer either tonite kids...just a reminder...:::cough::: no rings for the Mavs. Just a reminder.

[Fillmoe]

mehmet okur is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllin ...... he needs to do something about that emo haircut though

[anonymous coward]

okur did it again!!!!!! :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

do we go for 3 or 2?

[Spurologist]

Damn. Okur with a TOUGH shot with Horry in his shirt

[boutons_]

the foul on tony was the dagger. no foul, okur misses, our ball, our lead

[angel_luv]

God Okur kills us. Everytime.

Okur- ouch!

[MannyIsGod]

yeah, so, no stops in the final 1:30 and the Spurs expect to win? Pathetic.You're kidding me right? Okur is drawing BS fouls and hitting amazing shots.

WHAT A FOLLOW!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Watch us go to Bowen for three.

[milkyway21]

me & a lot of Spurstalk mem will lose their VBookie tonight :cry


so what it's gonna be? we are on for OT?

[TDfan2007]

Tim w/ another big bucket but Okur is coming to the line...fuck.

[angel_luv]

What took them so long?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Watch us go to Bowen for three.


:pctoss

Fuck you Pop.

[angel_luv]

Get ready to crash the boards boys!

[Amarelooms]

Please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...try and beat the Suns...less than 10% chance this old Spurs team can even compete against the Suns. Guess Dallas will have to beat them....

[01Snake]

Why did they found that fucker!

[Tek_XX]

Pop has no one to blame but himself, he needs to stfu.

[mavs>spurs2]

And you just barely beat the worst team in the West by 1 point. STFU.

I'd just like to point out that a win is a win. Worry about your own game first.

[mFFL03]

And you just barely beat the worst team in the West by 1 point. STFU.


wow you see a box score and you think you know everything.....good job....pops would be proud

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Can we bring in Bonner for the last shot?

[RashoFan]

:::cough::: no rings for the Mavs. Just a reminder.
:lmao

[angel_luv]

I took a nice nap today. Bring on overtime! :)

[TDfan2007]

man Okur has been nothing but money all night long.


Okur: "Carlos Boozer who?"

[Spurologist]

Watch us go to Bowen for three.

:lmao

[Jimcs50]

Why did we not foul Harpring in the backcourt????

[hitmanyr2k]

Time for a clutch 3....PUT IN FINLEY!! :lol :lol

[50 cent]

:pctoss

Fuck you Pop.
That was all Manu right there.

He had the 2 and kicked it out to Bowen.

[milkyway21]

:pctoss

Fuck you Pop.:lol

[MannyIsGod]

No more TOs so I think you go for an early 3 to give yourself a chance for an offensive rebounding. I wouldn't be suprised to see someone come off of a screen on the inbounds pass.

I think Horry gets the shot but pretty much everybody is an option other than Tim.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

can't even beat the over 50 teams when they're missing players either!

[ducks]

F. Oberto 20 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 1 0 0 0 3
nice game

[Texas_Ranger]

Why didnt the fould Williams?

[SequSpur]

parker is/was on fire and he hasn't had a got damn touch since

[dg7md]

It's over.

[01Snake]

Why the fuck die he take that??

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Horrible Horrible Shot

[angel_luv]

Blah!

[MannyIsGod]

Horrible screen off the inbounds. Don't blame the play, blame the execution.

[50 cent]

Horry fucking sucks balls.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

What a pathetic play.

[Jimcs50]

Why did Horry rush that shot...he had 9 secs left

[phxspurfan]

nt horry. gg spurs lose

[Texas_Ranger]

F. Oberto 20 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 1 0 0 0 3
nice game


:lol :lol

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Horry has ZERO mojo left in the tank.

[Leetonidas]

WTF was that? Horry you fucking moron there's 12 seconds on the clock not 3! :pctoss

Game over.

[nkdlunch]

kill yourself already bitch.

why do u even get up in the morning then?

[hitmanyr2k]

Ouch...fucked play from the beginning lol. Horry...the ball is your friend. He's had hands of stone tonight.

[milkyway21]

why Manu didn't just make a 3?

and that foul on Okur :cry

[TDfan2007]

retarded shot by Horry. Horrible defense in the 4th is what killed us in the end.

[boutons_]

spurs suck, they lost this game on the boards, and trying to play good only in the 4th qtr.

fuck fuck fuck the Spurs.

[SequSpur]

oh... that was the gayest inbound game winning play ever.

[Texas_Ranger]

Horry sucks all 4Q.

[Jimcs50]

No way do we win tomorrow now.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

LAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEE

that last minute execution was terrible!

[Leetonidas]

:pctoss

That stupid ass flop by that faggot Okur fucking killed us. Stupid pussy.

[SequSpur]

kill yourself already bitch.

why do u even get up in the morning then?

eat it.

[VaSpursFan]

there goes my vbookie....fucking spurs

[Amuseddaysleeper]

damn



if we can at least get a win in phoenix i wont be so pissed

[anonymous coward]

no boozer!!!

:smokin

[milkyway21]

Spurs Rodeo Trip Rec 24-6

[MannyIsGod]

I don't mind the shot though. Horry takes it early enough for a rebound.

Okur just killed us. I don't mind the loss all that much really. Utah is a hard place to win and Okur always kills us in the end. Props to the Jazz. Hope the Spurs can get one tomorrow night in Pheonix.

[Tek_XX]

waive horry.

[01Snake]

Waste of a winnable game.

[ducks]

fuck

[phxspurfan]

ok everyone jump back off the bandwagon. make some room for my beer cuz its gonna be a long 3 months til april

[angel_luv]

Oh my gosh! My television came unplugged and I missed the last 7 sections.
:pctoss

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

That was all Manu right there.

He had the 2 and kicked it out to Bowen.

50,

It's the same fucking play we ran a couple of weeks ago when everyone was watching Manu.

[hitmanyr2k]

Spurs spoil a great game by Parker tonight but he'll get chosen as an all-star for his performance.

[fred33]

tony was fantastic tonight

[SequSpur]

tony parker is on fire and a time out is called and he gets no more shot attempts... pop is getting owned every game.

[Amarelooms]

No way do we win tomorrow now.

Not holding my breath....could get ugly very ugly. Don't forget Spurs fans...Amare LOOMS...be afraid...very afraid :elephant

[boutons_]

2 consecutive suck ass games by the Spurs, lucky to win one of them.

They just aren't Championship material this year.

they are in a very distant 3rd spot.

[ro_50]

What a crummy way to finish a crummy month of basketball.

[ShoogarBear]

? Horry had 10 and 5 and was the only Spur other than #21 doing jack shit on the boards. This wasn't his fault.

[mavs>spurs2]

Damn I hate the Jazz, better luck next time.

[ducks]

spurs had 4 steals all game?

[gilmor]

boutons.. why don't u just switch team.. go support the mavs

[anonymous coward]

i smell blow up coming tomorrow

[nkdlunch]

fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck!

[Texas_Ranger]

Spurs really suck, but hey it is still January.

[dimsah]

Okur can go suck a huge cock. What the fuck was that shit?
The refs gave him that call behind the 3 point line? What a joke.

[phxspurfan]

Oh my gosh! My television came unplugged and I missed the last 7 sections.
:pctoss


har! get a DVD recorder like me ::::

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

why Manu didn't just make a 3?

and that foul on Okur :cry
Horry had a basketball IQ fart and tried to force a shot, instead of getting it to Manu in the corner.

Stupid. Spurs only get lucky when they come out on top. They can never execute in close games anymore. (AT LEAST BESIDES DUNCAN, MANU ,etc) Horry stupid. Bowen Stupid. Finley got lucky. Tony erases his stellar game by getting baited on that stupid call.

[Kori Ellis]

Bitch about this:

Rebounds

Jazz - 50 (without Carlos Boozer)
Spurs - 32!

[boutons_]

fuck you gilmor, the Spurs suck, have sucked all January,
pull your head out of your ass and try watching the games.

[MannyIsGod]

Why is everyone so pissed? That wasn't an easy game, with or without Boozer in there. Playing in Utah is tough and Okur always hurts the Spurs. The Jazz are by far the best rebounding team in the NBA, so you had to expect stretches like the one in the 3rd. For the most part, the Spurs played a great game and the Jazz just got the benefit of calls and hit the shots they needed to.

This wasn't a poorly played game by the Spurs. The Jazz just got more of the bounces and little things that went their way. This is easily a positive game for the Spurs.

[chevcmr68]

Robert Horry Suckkkkkkkkkkkk...plain And Simple

[Tek_XX]

:pctoss

That stupid ass flop by that faggot Okur fucking killed us. Stupid pussy.

Blame the official for the call. NBA officials are among the worst.

[Gros Membres!]

We lose to the Jazz...it's like the 1990s all over again.

Robinson = Duncan
Ginobili = Sean Elliot
Tony = ??? (Vinny Del Negro, I don't know)

We lost, imo, due to our reliance on the jump shot in the second quarter. Why is it that other teams have at least one or two guys who can knock down jumpers at will and we have NO ONE. The Spurs deserved to lose after being out hustled and out rebounded (and minus Boozer!) Pathetic. I'm ashamed.

[ducks]

did not watch the game but why did elson not see more minutes?
looking at the boxscore looks like he was effective

[Bookit]

Okur can go suck a huge cock. What the fuck was that shit?
The refs gave him that call behind the 3 point line? What a joke.

Duncan got the same exact call against the Mavs earlier in the season.

[MannyIsGod]

Robert Horry taking that shot is fine. If you miss you want a chance to get a offensive rebound in that situation. You're not going for the win, you're going for the tie so it makes no sense to let the clock run down before you shoot.

[td4mvp21]

As much as the refs screwed us over, we gave up too many rebounds. Rebounds cost us, not the refs. The refs didn't help though :-)

[milkyway21]

Pops still can't figure out a way to stop Mehmet Okur.

i think the best way is just make a run for him when he's a FA :lol
so he can stop embarrassing this team.

[ducks]

tony comparing him to Vinny Del Negro
tp is way better then him

[Rusty Shackleford]

Great game.

Did we have one timeout left when we had trouble inbounding the ball?

[Kori Ellis]

...

This wasn't a poorly played game by the Spurs. The Jazz just got more of the bounces and little things that went their way. This is easily a positive game for the Spurs.


They got outrebounded 50-32 when the Jazz didn't have Boozer. What's positive about that :lol

[Tek_XX]

Why is everyone so pissed? That wasn't an easy game, with or without Boozer in there. Playing in Utah is tough and Okur always hurts the Spurs. The Jazz are by far the best rebounding team in the NBA, so you had to expect stretches like the one in the 3rd. For the most part, the Spurs played a great game and the Jazz just got the benefit of calls and hit the shots they needed to.

This wasn't a poorly played game by the Spurs. The Jazz just got more of the bounces and little things that went their way. This is easily a positive game for the Spurs.

No more moral victories. I thought you said the Spurs had this? I guess you don't know the spurs.

[gilmor]

fuck you gilmor, the Spurs suck, have sucked all January,
pull your head out of your ass and try watching the games.

Ya, fuck u, asshole..

Go support the Mavs or Lakers..

[boutons_]

9 - 7 for January. That's a 46 - 36 season.

[Gros Membres!]

Not holding my breath....could get ugly very ugly. Don't forget Spurs fans...Amare LOOMS...be afraid...very afraid :elephant
Yep. Here comes a back to back loss. Love the Spurs, not jumping off the bandwagon but Horry can't play two in a row.

[fred33]

why pop don't give shot at tony on the last 3

[td4mvp21]

Duncan got the same exact call against the Mavs earlier in the season.
True, but at least you guys got justice. We didn't.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Meh. We could easily win these games. We 're just not doing it.

Okur killed us.

[hitmanyr2k]

Why is everyone so pissed? That wasn't an easy game, with or without Boozer in there. Playing in Utah is tough and Okur always hurts the Spurs. The Jazz are by far the best rebounding team in the NBA, so you had to expect stretches like the one in the 3rd. For the most part, the Spurs played a great game and the Jazz just got the benefit of calls and hit the shots they needed to.

This wasn't a poorly played game by the Spurs. The Jazz just got more of the bounces and little things that went their way. This is easily a positive game for the Spurs.

Nah, that's no fluke man. The Spurs just refuse to move their feet and hustle for those loose balls and boards. They've been consistently out-classed in the hustle department by every good team out there.

[Texas_Ranger]

Only Duncan and Parker played good this game.

I think it was better when Manu was a starter.

[VaSpursFan]

Bitch about this:

Rebounds

Jazz - 50 (without Carlos Boozer)
Spurs - 32!

thank you kori! this is why we lost...how many offensive rebounds did we give up 18...how many did we have...8

[yavozerb]

Horry is really becoming a defensive liability on the court!!

[Amarelooms]

Pretty much a must win tomorrow night for the Spurs....lose and it proves that the Spurs have no shot against the top teams in the West. Secondly, you fall too far behnind the Mavs to even contend for the division...could even fall behind the Rockets. I'll be cheer for the Spurs...please play smart and POUND THE BALL INSIDE and slow it down againts the Suns.

[angel_luv]

As much as the refs screwed us over, we gave up too many rebounds. Rebounds cost us, not the refs. The refs didn't help though :-)


This loss is on us.
But Tony was awesome and the effort was there by the rest of the team.
We'll be all right.

Utah hit some amazing shots- have to give them due credit.

[spyder]

:pctoss :madrun :bang freakin spurs

[Gros Membres!]

Great game.

Did we have one timeout left when we had trouble inbounding the ball?
Nope.

[Extra Stout]

They got outrebounded 50-32 when the Jazz didn't have Boozer. What's positive about that :lol
Well, that is a functional flaw with the roster. They can show plenty of heart, but some nights they are going to get killed on the glass.

[ShoogarBear]

Why is everyone so pissed? That wasn't an easy game, with or without Boozer in there. Playing in Utah is tough and Okur always hurts the Spurs. The Jazz are by far the best rebounding team in the NBA, so you had to expect stretches like the one in the 3rd. For the most part, the Spurs played a great game and the Jazz just got the benefit of calls and hit the shots they needed to.

This wasn't a poorly played game by the Spurs. The Jazz just got more of the bounces and little things that went their way. This is easily a positive game for the Spurs.Maybe if I had HD I could see things that way, too.

Instead, I saw one more team without their best player beat the Spurs.

:pctoss

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Pop's Manu on the bench experiment proves ineffective.

[ducks]

Only Duncan and Parker played good this game.

I think it was better when Manu was a starter.

only if manu could help in the rebounding department

[Bookit]

True, but at least you guys got justice. We didn't.

True.

[Kori Ellis]

why pop don't give shot at tony on the last 3

:lol I was laughing at myself thinking the same thing in my head. It would have been a huge, gutsy call, but hey .. Tony was on fire.

[dimsah]

WTF! Oberto - 0 rbds in 23 minutes. Get fucking rid of him.

[yavozerb]

If horry cannot cover millsap or grab a defensive board then he does not belong out there!!Please let this be his last year

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

fuck you gilmor, the Spurs suck, have sucked all January,
pull your head out of your ass and try watching the games.

It could be worse for gilmor - his head could be up Hillary's ass like yours. :lol

[Budkin]

Pretty much a must win tomorrow night for the Spurs....lose and it proves that the Spurs have no shot against the top teams in the West. Secondly, you fall too far behnind the Mavs to even contend for the division...could even fall behind the Rockets. I'll be cheer for the Spurs...please play smart and POUND THE BALL INSIDE and slow it down againts the Suns.

Wrong. There's a ton of season left. One trade and we're back in it.

[MannyIsGod]

They got outrebounded 50-32 when the Jazz didn't have Boozer. What's positive about that :lolThe Jazz rebound extremely well with or without Boozer. Does it really hurt them not to have Boozer when they have Millsap to step in and do just as much of the dirty work? Boozer is a great rebounder, but the Jazz have a lot of those who can fill in the gaps. They missed Boozer's offense much moe than his rebounding.

The Spurs played well tonight. They're not going to becomea good rebounding team this year with the players they have, so we might as well learn to live with that. Tony showed big nuts, and I thought Tim and Manu did a good job tonight as well. Thats very positive. The Spurs also played very good defense.

I'm not sure what people thought. Did posters here expect a blowout because Boozer wasn't there? You're not going to get many blowouts against good teams like the Jazz on the road. Its just not going to happen.

[TMTTRIO]

Obviously this Manu off the bench thing for energy is not working. He sucked again off of it

[ducks]

F. Oberto 23 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 1 0 0 0 3 0
he needs to fucking rebound
why did elson get 10 minutes only he had 5 rebounds!

[Tek_XX]

Can the spurs beat Phoenix?

Better question, will the spurs beat Phoenix?

[VaSpursFan]

If horry cannot cover millsap or grab a defensive board then he does not belong out there!!Please let this be his last year

only person on the boards for the spurs is duncan. horry isn't why we lost this game

[MannyIsGod]

Well, that is a functional flaw with the roster. They can show plenty of heart, but some nights they are going to get killed on the glass.Exactly.

[SequSpur]

The Jazz rebound extremely well with or without Boozer. Does it really hurt them not to have Boozer when they have Millsap to step in and do just as much of the dirty work? Boozer is a great rebounder, but the Jazz have a lot of those who can fill in the gaps. They missed Boozer's offense much moe than his rebounding.

The Spurs played well tonight. They're not going to becomea good rebounding team this year with the players they have, so we might as well learn to live with that. Tony showed big nuts, and I thought Tim and Manu did a good job tonight as well. Thats very positive. The Spurs also played very good defense.

I'm not sure what people thought. Did posters here expect a blowout because Boozer wasn't there? You're not going to get many blowouts against good teams like the Jazz on the road. Its just not going to happen.

you're high...

[ShoogarBear]

:lol I was laughing at myself thinking the same thing in my head. It would have been a huge, gutsy call, but hey .. Tony was on fire.Me, too. Tony was clearly hot, but I don't know whether putting him in would have been the right thing or not.

[yavozerb]

only person on the boards for the spurs is duncan. horry isn't why we lost this game
Didnt say that!!Millsap killed us, do you deny this??

[upTD]

fuck POP, FUCK manu, where was he in the 4th qrt.?

[ducks]

spurs have to control the tempo against the suns

[MannyIsGod]

Maybe if I had HD I could see things that way, too.

Instead, I saw one more team without their best player beat the Spurs.

:pctossIt doesn't really matter because we're taling about Boozer and the Jazz. First off, they know how to play without him considering they've had to do it so much. Secondly, its a Jerry Sloan coached team, and you know that the entire team is going to bring it with or without Boozer. They're a TEAM not driven by a single player.

It isn't the same as if we were playing a team like the Lakers without Kobe. The Jazz aren't built to work around Boozer, so with or without him they're going to be a pretty damn good team.

[ploto]

Utah had actually lost 2 of their last 3 home games- and to Memphis and New Jersey, nonetheless. Plus a loss last weekend in Oklahoma City. In truth- Utah was 6-8 in January before tonight.

[Solid D]

The opposing Bigs absolutely killed the Spurs. 58 points out of Okur, Millsap, Araujo. 39 points from the rest of the Jazz.

The bogus touch foul/flop with Okur for 3 FTs was the dagger the Spurs couldn't overcome but the rebounding and front-court scoring got the Jazz into position to win.

[ro_50]

How long it will be before Elson starts AGAIN?

[ShoogarBear]

Since I didn't see the first half, can somebody 'splain to me why Oberto got 23 minutes to produce his zero rebounds, while Elson got 5 in 10 minutes?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

only if manu could help in the rebounding department
Why are you singling out Manu in poor rebounding in today's game?

ALL THE PLAYERS were sub-par in their rebounds today. Duncan only had 8. Manu 3. Parker 2. Elson 5. Oberto ZERO

This was against the Jazz.

[ducks]

elson needs to fucking start

[VaSpursFan]

Didnt say that!!Millsap killed us, do you deny this??

millsap kills every team on the boards...not just the spurs. he's a rebounding machine.

[anonymous coward]

only if manu could help in the rebounding department
:lmao

tell that to bowen and findog

[Budkin]

We will have a much better game against the Suns... book it. :smokin

[ShoogarBear]

Oh, I see several other people who I presume saw the first half are asking the same thing.

[dimsah]

Why are you singling out Manu in poor rebounding in today's game?

ALL THE PLAYERS were sub-par in their rebounds today. Duncan only had 8. Manu 3. Parker 2. Elson 5. Oberto ZERO

This was against the Jazz.
Duncan had 12

[Extra Stout]

Exactly.
Therefore...

While the Laker game was a great blast from the past, we know full well this team is going to get killed against good rebounding teams in the playoffs, no matter how valiant their effort will be.

But in the meantime, the good effort at least makes games watchable again.

[Solid D]

Elson stunk out loud. Oberto was invisibile but couldn't be detected by his stink like Elson could.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Since I didn't see the first half, can somebody 'splain to me why Oberto got 23 minutes to produce his zero rebounds, while Elson got 5 in 10 minutes?

You know better than to question a coach with three rings. WTF is wrong with you? [/Tpark]

I think Pop was caught up in the idea he had to play his tall white guy against their tall white guy.

[ducks]

Why are you singling out Manu in poor rebounding in today's game?

ALL THE PLAYERS were sub-par in their rebounds today. Duncan only had 8. Manu 3. Parker 2. Elson 5. Oberto ZERO

This was against the Jazz.

he posted that the manu experient failed
tonight was about rebounds
elson rebounded well 10 mintutes 5 rebounds
compare that to other players!

[Budkin]

Therefore...

While the Laker game was a great blast from the past, we know full well this team is going to get killed against good rebounding teams in the playoffs, no matter how valiant their effort will be.

No because Pop addressed those needs in the off season with the acquisition of Elson... I mean uh...

[upTD]

The Jazz rebound extremely well with or without Boozer. Does it really hurt them not to have Boozer when they have Millsap to step in and do just as much of the dirty work? Boozer is a great rebounder, but the Jazz have a lot of those who can fill in the gaps. They missed Boozer's offense much moe than his rebounding.

The Spurs played well tonight. They're not going to becomea good rebounding team this year with the players they have, so we might as well learn to live with that. Tony showed big nuts, and I thought Tim and Manu did a good job tonight as well. Thats very positive. The Spurs also played very good defense.

I'm not sure what people thought. Did posters here expect a blowout because Boozer wasn't there? You're not going to get many blowouts against good teams like the Jazz on the road. Its just not going to happen.

MANU did a good job? just a joke. only you Argentina rubbish think so.

[ShoogarBear]

Dennis Rodman is not walking through that door.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Meh, the whining should end.

The Jazz Beat us more than we beat ourselves guys.

Duncan did great down the stretch. Our shooters hit big threes, but the Jazz had Okur hit some killer shots.

Quit blaming our players. Our team lost because the Jazz outhustled and outplayed us. Yes Horry forced a shot, but who cares, it's just one game. We'll learn from this.

[MannyIsGod]

Therefore...

While the Laker game was a great blast from the past, we know full well this team is going to get killed against good rebounding teams in the playoffs, no matter how valiant their effort will be.

But in the meantime, the good effort at least makes games watchable again.I think that is a fair assesment and what most people here have been saying all year. However, I do think this team has shown a lot more effort, heart, and has generally played much better in their recent games.

The fans here shoudln't expect this team to improve overnight. Yes, the Lakers game was a big win but that doens't mean the Spurs are ready to run off 9 in a row. Fans should however at the least be pleased with the increased effort on the court and the improved D as of late.

[yavozerb]

millsap kills every team on the boards...not just the spurs. he's a rebounding machine.
I didn't realize averaging 4.2 rebounds on the year is killing people..

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

he posted that the manu experient failed
tonight was about rebounds
elson rebounded well 10 mintutes 5 rebounds
compare that to other players!
The other player's pussy footed. Plus, I don't know what's up with Pop.

[MannyIsGod]

MANU did a good job? just a joke. only you Argentina rubbish think so.:lol @ me being Argentine rubbish. Nice.

[MannyIsGod]

I didn't realize averaging 4.2 rebounds on the year is killing people..In how many minutes? Millsapp is definetly a player who's main skill is getting boards and does so better than most.

[bigfundamental21]

Disappointing loss. Why didn't Pop have Tony in on that last play when we needed the three with like 27 seconds left? We needed his penetration and kick out or at least his ball handling. We should have never been down ten points to begin with. I hope the back to back curse doesn't rear its ugly head tomorrow in Phoenix.

[Manu_The _Best]

The Spurs slept for 3 1/2 quarter in this game (the same way they did against the LA), but this time their late run didn't pay off - we thought this team was inspired from the great "W" against LA, but unfortunately this isn't the case. Another devastating and pathetic performance during large part of the game - the Spurs started playing real basketball in the last 5-6 min. in the 4th quarter - you cannot win many games by doing that - props to the Jazz today - we saw clearly that Elson is NOTHING - he couldn't get rbs, didn't cover anyone, didn't score...Besides Tony and Timmy, and somewhat Barry, Manu, and Horry, the rest of squad produced NOTHING today - the execution in the end of the game was EXTREMELY POOR - Horry mishandled the ball several times - I have no idea WHY Barry didn't play in the last 1 min. of the game (instead of Bruce, who missed wide open 3 to tie the game)...The Spurs had no answer in the Glass - Elson and Oberto were a DISASTER...Pop didn't find anyone to cover Okur for 48 min. The Spurs have a real problem with the backup PG position - nobody is there to cover for Tony...The Jazz won without Boozer - a disastrous loss for the Spurs today - they HAD TO WIN THIS GAME vs. a short-handed team (without their BEST player), but they failed! One more reason to blame coaching and management for NOT improving the squad this year - A SHAME!!!

Tomorrow is the Suns - and after today's POOR performance, in a back-to-back situation with the OLD DONKEYS in the team, the Spurs will get BLOWN OUT by 20+ Points - the Suns won't miss the chance to stick it in...I will be deeply surprised if the Spurs win in Arizona, and I hope they prove me wrong… :blah :blah :blah :blah :blah :blah

[ShoogarBear]

Elson stunk out loud. Oberto was invisibile but couldn't be detected by his stink like Elson could.I'll take your word for it, but that must have been some pretty fancy doing in a game where everyone admits the #1 problem was rebounding, and one guy was averaging zero rebounds per 48 and the other was averaging 24. Elson must have been grabbing the ball from Tony and handing it to Deron Williams.

[bigfundamental21]

I hope they prove you wrong too. The Spurs need to play angry tomorrow for letting this game get away.

[VaSpursFan]

I didn't realize averaging 4.2 rebounds on the year is killing people..

his last 2 games when he played 30 mins versus the Nets and Hornets he had 17 and 12 rebounds and he had 8 tonight. he's no slouch on the boards despite his 4.2 season avg. when he gets mins he rebounds just like tonight.

[yavozerb]

In how many minutes? Millsapp is definetly a player who's main skill is getting boards and does so better than most.
averaging 16 minutes, good but not great!!This is not the first night the spurs have let an average player have their way on the boards!!

[ploto]

The opposing Bigs absolutely killed the Spurs. 58 points out of Okur, Millsap, Araujo. 39 points from the rest of the Jazz.
Araujo sucks- how did he manage 7 points and 5 rebounds?

[VaSpursFan]

In how many minutes? Millsapp is definetly a player who's main skill is getting boards and does so better than most.

agree manny. you can just look at him board and tell he has a knack for it. he's a solid rebounder. he's just a rook and sloan rather chew nails than give rooks significant playing time.

[timvp]

Elson stunk out loud. Oberto was invisibile but couldn't be detected by his stink like Elson could.

I don't know .. the suckage factor was pretty much even. At least Elson grabbed a few boards. Oberto didn't grab a board and was getting abused on the low block.

Amazingly abused.

[johnpaulwall21]

Tim had 5 blocks, that means in the last 10 games he has 38 total. thats 3.8 blocks per game.

[yavozerb]

I do have to say that this was a typical spurs game in utah!!Hard to watch sometimes..

[MannyIsGod]

I wouldn't be suprised to see Elson start tomorrow night. Oberto is a HORRIBLE matchup against the Suns, so I really hope he doesn't see much time at all.

[timvp]

The Spurs slept for 3 1/2 quarter in this game

Disagree.

The Spurs were out there fighting. If the bigs could have kept the rebounding decently within range, the Spurs walk away with a win.

Duncan played well. Parker played very well. Ginobili was competing. Horry played well. The hole in the middle was just too large to overcome.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Tim had 5 blocks, that means in the last 10 games he has 38 total. thats 3.8 blocks per game.

Look out! Junior got a new calculator for Christmas...

[Kori Ellis]

I'll take your word for it, but that must have been some pretty fancy doing in a game where everyone admits the #1 problem was rebounding, and one guy was averaging zero rebounds per 48 and the other was averaging 24. Elson must have been grabbing the ball from Tony and handing it to Deron Williams.


Elson was horrible today. His rebounds were of the accidental variety and his defense was non-existent. And he still can't set a screen. :pctoss

But Oberto was equally as horrible in my eyes.

[yavozerb]

I saw oberto maybe get off a 2 inch vertical leap for one of his rebound attempts and actually got his hands on the ball!!SO close, So close!!

[timvp]

Oberto is a HORRIBLE matchup against the Suns

History would disagree with that.

Although after seeing Oberto tonight, I don't think he could do much against anyone when he plays in his zombie state.

[VaSpursFan]

i was amazed at how inept elson is at rebounding. he can't even time his jumps properly. there were a lot of times that he jumped too early...wtf???

[VaSpursFan]

I saw oberto maybe get off a 2 inch vertical leap for one of his rebound attempts and actually got his hands on the ball!!SO close, So close!!
:lol :lol :lol :lol

[yavozerb]

Anyways, the one bright spot was parker and his play. He is definatly becoming an elite pg..

[ShoogarBear]

Elson was horrible today. His rebounds were of the accidental variety and his defense was non-existent. And he still can't set a screen. :pctoss

But Oberto was equally as horrible in my eyes.Accidental Rebounds >> Nonexistent Rebounds. :lol

My intro to the game was the 14-2 run or whatever at the start of the third. It'll be interesting to see the +/- stats for this one.

[johnpaulwall21]

Look out! Junior got a new calculator for Christmas...

Go to Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ihit

[MannyIsGod]

Honestly, the rebounding was insanely bad in the 3rd, but not really horrible the rest of the game. If you want to say anything, you can say that the Spurs played one poor quarter and 3 good ones. It is definetly not the other way around.

[MannyIsGod]

History would disagree with that.

Although after seeing Oberto tonight, I don't think he could do much against anyone when he plays in his zombie state.Hmm, I don't remember what he did against them last time, but thinking about Oberto guarding either Amare or Marion doesn't exactly make me happy.

[johnpaulwall21]

the spurs played their asses off but what makes me really pissed is that we wasted this effort in a loss!!!!!!!!!!!! Now we got to go on the highway to hell with the Suns and try to make that a close game.

[TDMVPDPOY]

htf did we lose against a boozer-less jazz, lets enjoy the b2b loss...we are so goin to lose tommarow...

duncan wasted his performance tonite

[timvp]

Hmm, I don't remember what he did against them last time, but thinking about Oberto guarding either Amare or Marion doesn't exactly make me happy.

That was Oberto's 11-for-11 game. 22 and 10, IIRC.

[ShoogarBear]

Hmm, I don't remember what he did against them last time, but thinking about Oberto guarding either Amare or Marion doesn't exactly make me happy.Phoenix was whom he had the 11-for-11 game against.

Although it is clear that his offensive game is nonexistant if you just make a half-assed attempt to guard him.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Phoenix was whom he had the 11-for-11 game against.

Although it is clear that his offensive game is nonexistant if you just make a half-assed attempt to guard him.

i will come to the conclusion that oberto + elson < rasho or nazr

these 2 :( :( time to fuckn give butler minutes, at least he can fuckn jump more than 1inch off the ground...

[Solid D]

I don't know .. the suckage factor was pretty much even. At least Elson grabbed a few boards. Oberto didn't grab a board and was getting abused on the low block.

Amazingly abused.

My sense of the game was Elson was worse on the +/- than Oberto but someone would have to run those numbers. His defense was worse...but they both were awful.

[Manu_The _Best]

Disagree.

The Spurs were out there fighting. If the bigs could have kept the rebounding decently within range, the Spurs walk away with a win.

Duncan played well. Parker played very well. Ginobili was competing. Horry played well. The hole in the middle was just too large to overcome.

ELSON AND OBERTO Played NOTHING!!! The Spurs started 6 of 10 and then went on 3-13 from the field - they WERE Pathetic until the 4th when they made a nice run - unfortunately, you need to paly HARD for 48 min. and the Spurs DON'T HAVE CENTERS right now to win an NBA Title...

[ggoose25]

once bonner comes back the rebounding will get better... that is if he comes back 100%

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Could be worse. You guys could be the Nuggets :lol

4 straight losses to the Jazz, Nets, Bobcats and Blazers!! LOL They suck

[ShoogarBear]

Yeah, that AI/Carmelo thing has been magic, hasn't it? :lol

[Manu_The _Best]

Could be worse. You guys could be the Nuggets :lol

4 straight losses to the Jazz, Nets, Bobcats and Blazers!! LOL They suck

This is the luxury to have MULTIPLE SUPERSTARS in your team - you will get multiple losess... :lmao :lmao :lmao

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Yeah, that AI/Carmelo thing has been magic, hasn't it? :lol


no AI tonight :depressed

Friggin' injuries ruin any chance of the Nuggets getting any consistency and chemistry. Im not panicking yet, if they suck after the all star break then ill panic.

Its just frustrating

[rednecksbasketball]

You guys sound like you just lost to a sub 500 team, when infact you just lost to a team with the fourth best record in the NBA, and until recently had been dominate on their homecourt. Utah has been in a lot of close games this year, 13 games this year decided by 3 points or less, 4 of their six losses have also been at the Buzzer. so its quite concievable that the Jazz could be 34-13, not 30-17.

The Spurs played their hearts out but the Jazz just simply out worked them downlow. the Spurs also shot a lot more jumpshots, but thats because they read the scouting report on the Jazz and know the Jazz couldn't stop a guy in a wheelchair from draining threes on them.

Paul Millsap is a beast, he is a natural rebounder who lead the NCAA in rebounding for three years at Lousiana Tech. His numbers aren't that high because Boozer has been healthy and has taken most the minutes at the power forward. Haffa sucks though, there is really no excuse for letting him have one good game against you, let alone letting him have his two best games of the season against you.(His previous best game was against the Spurs in that blowout after Christmas)

[SequSpur]

You guys sound like you just lost to a sub 500 team, when infact you just lost to a team with the fourth best record in the NBA, and until recently had been dominate on their homecourt. Utah has been in a lot of close games this year, 13 games this year decided by 3 points or less, 4 of their six losses have also been at the Buzzer. so its quite concievable that the Jazz could be 34-13, not 30-17.

The Spurs played their hearts out but the Jazz just simply out worked them downlow. the Spurs also shot a lot more jumpshots, but thats because they read the scouting report on the Jazz and know the Jazz couldn't stop a guy in a wheelchair from draining threes on them.

Paul Millsap is a beast, he is a natural rebounder who lead the NCAA in rebounding for three years at Lousiana Tech. His numbers aren't that high because Boozer has been healthy and has taken most the minutes at the power forward. Haffa sucks though, there is really no excuse for letting him have one good game against you, let alone letting him have his two best games of the season against you.(His previous best game was against the Spurs in that blowout after Christmas)

Nice essay but you're wrong. The Spurs were 10 points better, Pop was just 2 janitors shittier than Sloan.

[rednecksbasketball]

How where the Spurs 10 points better? They got worked on the boards, plus the Spurs would go through stretches where they couldn't hit a thing, in the middle of the first they missed like 11 shots in a row.

[Manu_The _Best]

Disagree.

The Spurs were out there fighting. If the bigs could have kept the rebounding decently within range, the Spurs walk away with a win.

Duncan played well. Parker played very well. Ginobili was competing. Horry played well. The hole in the middle was just too large to overcome.


DISAGREE??? "Fighting"??? You've gotta be kidding!!!

losing rbs and "fighting" simply don't go along. Wew were (-18) rbs...WHERE IS BUTLER??? WHY HE IS NOT PLAYING SINCE THOSE 2 GUYS ELSON AND OBERTO PRODUSE SHIT???

if you play hard and "fighting":

you block out,
you crash the boards,
you get RBs,
you get stops,
you don't make multiple fatal "Horry" errors in the last 2 minutes

The Spurs beat themselves...


Beno is finished

[Pugglekicker_21]

Spurs should start looking to see if Dennis Rodman is still available to either play or teach these punks how to hustle for rebounds.



my sig has broke through!

[Pugglekicker_21]

:huh okur thought he was jordan tonight

except he killed the spurs with a three, not his own team...or did jordan hit a jumper? :huh

[Solid D]

For ShoogarBear - I ran an unofficial look from the game log (no DVR for this game) on pure +/- for Elson and Oberto. Totals are equally bad. Keeping in mind that Oberto was teamed with the starting unit in at least the start of the 1st and 3rd quarters... (column numbers indicate each segment of floor time)

Oberto...Elson
1. +1 .... -5
2. +1 .... -4
3. -9 .... +3
4. +3
------------
Tot -6 ... -6

That -9 stretch for Oberto was when the starters opened the 2nd half on that energy-less 2-11 run by Utah. That cold start to the half would prove to be a major ditch to dig out of.

[LEONARD]

Threads like this make this place the greatest site in the world... :clap


And you just barely beat the worst team in the West by 1 point. STFU.

You obviously just checked the box score...it was only close because of 3 ridiculous 3's by the Grizz in the last 30 seconds. 3, foul, 2 FT's, 3, foul, 2 FT's, 3 at the buzzer. Mavs make their FT's...there was never a doubt about the game...


:::cough::: no rings for the Mavs. Just a reminder.

:lol

There should be a button with the smiley's that just inserts that default comeback around here... :dizzy


They got outrebounded 50-32 when the Jazz didn't have Boozer. What's positive about that :lol

Kori with a nice dose of reality as usual... :fro