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Jimcs50
02-06-2007, 09:19 AM
Feb. 6, 2007, 1:43AM
Gillispie has ideal gig at Texas A&M
By JOHN P. LOPEZ
COLLEGE STATION — Somewhere along the way, from his days as a crafty knuckleballer back at Graford High to the top of the state's basketball world, Billy Gillispie is bound to have done something wrong.
He's probably run with scissors. Maybe he has changed lanes without signaling. Or perhaps, just perhaps, there has been an occasion when he has not danced with the one who brung him.
This again was not one of those nights. Despite a degree of misfortune, Texas A&M danced with defense and determination Monday, taking out rival Texas 100-82 amid a scene that could only be called surreal. Certainly for now, life could not be better for the residents of "Gillispieville," as banners at the tent city outside Reed Arena proclaimed.
Gillispie continues to do little wrong, even when it appears it's all going bad, like in the first half Monday. That's when the Aggies fouled too much, allowed too many openings and seemed primed for a collapse with three of their stars in foul trouble.
All that happened in the second half was the Aggies' heart and soul, Acie Law, collapsing in a heap near midcourt and clutching an injured left ankle.
But all you need to know about how far these Aggies have come on so many levels is that they still won going away. And the boisterous Aggies faithful who camped out for days waiting to get into the arena did not storm the court after Monday night's intense, emotional win.
A year ago, beating Texas on a buzzer-beater was enough to make some want to cancel classes. It made the season complete, even before a trip to the NCAA Tournament's second round was done.
But now, a win over the Longhorns only made the Aggies want to look ahead toward a certain NCAA berth, perhaps as high as a No. 2 seed, and maybe a Big 12 title.
As the Aggies have taken so many huge steps in such a short time, the prevailing opinion in college basketball circles has been that they should enjoy it while they can.
Gillispie has done such a magnificent job turning things around, it seems a more desirable job is just a wink away. Maybe an Arkansas, a Kentucky or some other well-pedigreed program.
But more than anything, this game showed that the dream job might in fact be right here.
With Law, a senior, injured and juniors Joseph Jones and Dominique Kirk in foul trouble, Gillispie leaned heavily on freshmen Bryan Davis and Donald Sloan and sophomore Josh Carter.
Not once all year had the Aggies had to win a game with so much youth. Law eventually returned, but Jones and Kirk fouled out, and the young A&M threesome responded hugely.
"We would not have this victory," Law said, "without those (three) performing like they did."
Carter, Sloan and Davis combined for 43 points and 17 rebounds. The ultra-athletic, 6-2 Sloan even defended 6-10 Texas superstar Kevin Durant on three late possessions, forcing misses on all three.
But look beyond one game or one scene. Gillispie has created more than a quick fix or brief flirtation with the big time for the No. 6 Aggies. He has established something lasting.
Is it enough to keep Gillispie around even when the big boys come calling, which they most certainly will? Who knows? But the Aggies basketball culture has shed the malaise that once reigned. In its place is a big-time atmosphere that would rival anything anywhere.
Would Gillispie want to coach at a school that could draw a national TV audience twice in three days around the Super Bowl? He already does.
Would he want to coach at a school that would commit fully to big-time facilities? The Aggies already have, breaking ground on a 50,000-square-foot basketball mecca that will be adjacent to Reed Arena.
Would he want Dick Vitale gushing, a sold-out house every night, a Top 10 ranking, fans chanting his name, and recruits lining up? It's done.
As for the A&M students, he had them at hello. They camped out for two days just to get into the arena.
They put up the "Gillispieville" banners and turned out in droves, watching Sunday's Super Bowl on flat-screen TVs set up near the arena entrances. When the doors swung open, they flooded both ends of the court and brought energy and noise.
And afterward, there was the state's No. 1 high schooler, 7-foot Houston center DeAndre Jordan, walking across the court celebrating, signing autographs and taking it in.
:smokin
It didn't look, sound or feel like a mere taste of how the other half of the basketball world lives. It looked like something lasting.
Clearly, the Aggies are going places. Nothing is ever certain, but there are a lot of reasons Gillispie might not want to go anywhere.
Jimcs50
02-06-2007, 09:23 AM
Aggies stay on a roll with win over Longhorns
Carter, Law combine for 45 points as A&M follows up win over Kansas
By TERRANCE HARRIS
COLLEGE STATION - This time there were no late-game heroics for Texas A&M point guard Acie Law.
There was no need.
A role player and a couple of substitutes stepped up at a critical time to lead Texas A&M to a 100-82 win over Texas on Monday night in front of a sellout crowd of 13,196 — a Reed Arena record — and a national ESPN Big Monday audience.
It was the second straight blockbuster win for the No. 6 Aggies.
Saturday, it was a late-game show by Law that ignited Texas A&M (20-3, 8-1 Big 12) over then sixth-ranked Kansas in Lawrence, Kan. Monday's loss was the second in a row for the Longhorns (16-7, 6-3).
"It's been great and it's been tough at the same time," said Law, who hit a buzzer-beating 3-point to lift A&M over Texas last season at Reed Arena. "After the Kansas game we laid it all on the line, we had guys laying down in exhaustion we were so tired. But to come back home and get the 'W' in front of all these fans means a lot to us."
Much of the credit has to go to 3-point specialist Josh Carter and freshman reserves Bryan Davis and Donald Sloan, who made the big plays down the stretch as the Aggies pulled away from Kevin Durant and the Longhorns.
Carter sparked an 11-2 run that boosted a three-point lead to 87-75. Normally a long-range shooter, Carter put the ball on the floor for two driving layups and then had a tip-in on a third drive.
He came up with a big steal off D.J. Augustin that set up his tip-in after Sloan and Marlon Pompey missed short jumpers.
Dominique Kirk and Joseph Jones fouled out, but Sloan and Davis hit big baskets inside.
"Three guys grew up a lot tonight," said A&M coach Billy Gillispie. "I think Josh can be that type of player on a daily basis."
Carter, Sloan and Davis were forced into action because three teammates were in foul trouble and Law was hobbling with an ankle sprain.
Carter finished with 24 points and 10 rebounds — his first career double-double. Sloan added 11 points and Davis contributed eight points and six rebounds. Texas A&M's bench outscored Texas 26-2.
"They were huge," said Law, who had 21 points and 15 assists and just one turnover. "We don't have this victory if they didn't play the way they played tonight." :smokin
Texas coach Rick Barnes was disappointed in his team's defense as the Longhorns allowed A&M to penetrate for several easy baskets.
"We didn't guard anybody the last four minutes. We were terrible," Barnes said. "I'm disappointed in the fact we were right where we wanted to be. We did what we wanted to do, which was get to their bench, and then we let them hurt us.
"We gave up wide-open layups and we can't be doing that."
Durant had another outstanding game, scoring 28 points in 39 minutes. But the physical defense, and later the Aggies' zone, forced him into 9-of-23 shooting.
"They really didn't do anything special," Durant said. "I was just trying to get my teammates involved."
In a game of strong offensive play, this one hinged on rebounding and defense. The Aggies outrebounded Texas 47-31, including 15 offensive boards.
But in the first half and early in the second, the Longhorns seemed to have the upper hand as they sliced into a 14-point A&M margin and even took the lead briefly.
Fouls and free-throw shooting worked to undo a strong beginning for the Aggies, who led by 14 points just six minutes into the game.
But with A&M's Kirk, the defensive stopper Jones and Antanas Kavaliauskas on the bench because of foul trouble, the Longhorns came back late in the first half, outscoring A&M 32-24 to trail just 45-40 at halftime.
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Jimcs50
02-06-2007, 09:29 AM
Our Diaper Dandies, Davis, Sloan and Carter played their best game, collectively and that was what I was worried about all year long, was whether or not we could win a game when our stars were in foul trouble. Now it looks like the Aggies are not only set for this year, but there will be life after Acie and AK next year.
:toast
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 09:37 AM
...the more wins and seasons A&M has like this, the more it makes me think he isn't going anywhere. shit we are already knocking on the door of the top 5 and have the top player in Texas coming in next year. why leave...i can't imagine it getting any better. plus, A&M has more money than most schools.
Jimcs50
02-06-2007, 09:44 AM
Pre Gillespie:
0-16 in conference
With Gillespie:
1st year: 8-8
2nd year: 10-6
3rd year: 14-2 or 13-3?
UNBELIEVABLE
:smokin
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 09:46 AM
Pre Gillespie:
0-16 in conference
With Gillespie:
1st year: 8-8
2nd year: 10-6
3rd year: 14-2 or 13-3?
UNBELIEVABLE
:smokin
my prediction was A&M winning the conference @ 13-3, but as of right now i expect them to go 14-2...probably one more slip-up on the road.
Jimcs50
02-06-2007, 10:07 AM
my prediction was A&M winning the conference @ 13-3, but as of right now i expect them to go 14-2...probably one more slip-up on the road.
I predicted 12-4
I think I underestimated my own team.
:elephant
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 10:31 AM
I predicted 12-4
I think I underestimated my own team.
:elephant
its all good. but wrap your head around this...if Billy stays, think of how many times we will own t.u. compared to them beating us. i'd say its like a ratio of 3-1. they're done.
Jimcs50
02-06-2007, 12:05 PM
My prediction:
Kansas will lose at least 1 more game(split with K St, and maybe lose at OU)
That means Aggies have to lose more than 2 games to lose Big 12 championship.
I do not see us losing to Nebraska, Baylor, Missouri or Tech...no way.
at Ou and Ok St back to back will be tough, but at worst they split
That makes UT the only hope for Kansas.
If UT can not beat us with the officiating like it was last night, they can neverbeat us.
I say it is a lock.
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 12:10 PM
My prediction:
Kansas will lose at least 1 more game(split with K St, and maybe lose at OU)
That means Aggies have to lose more than 2 games to lose Big 12 championship.
I do not see us losing to Nebraska, Baylor, Missouri or Tech...no way.
at Ou and Ok St back to back will be tough, but at worst they split
That makes UT the only hope for Kansas.
If UT can not beat us with the officiating like it was last night, they can neverbeat us.
I say it is a lock.
good assessment, and i agree. i find it funny some of the tea-sips on this board said, basically, wait till you come to austin. uhh, i guess they didn't see the game cause they won't get any more breaks than they got in that game. now i am not saying A&M will blow them out or anything like that...but i think they'll win.
RonMexico
02-06-2007, 01:53 PM
plus, A&M has more money than most schools.
And the campus is just dying to throw money at a winner.
Ballcox
02-06-2007, 01:54 PM
^Enjoy it while it lasts. You beat a Texas team that lost EVERY starter from last year's team, wow, congrats. But as for this bullshit about winning at a 3:1 ration from here on out, give me a fucking break, are you that delusional?
Believe it or not, Texas basketball has established a pretty good tradition of winning here in the last 8 plus years, and I don't think we're going to just fall off the map because a&m is having one good season.
But you guys keep pumping each other up with the ag love fest, it's funny to watch, sad and pathetic, but funny. :lol
RonMexico
02-06-2007, 02:03 PM
^Enjoy it while it lasts. You beat a Texas team that lost EVERY starter from last year's team, wow, congrats. But as for this bullshit about winning at a 3:1 ration from here on out, give me a fucking break, are you that delusional?
Believe it or not, Texas basketball has established a pretty good tradition of winning here in the last 8 plus years, and I don't think we're going to just fall off the map because a&m is having one good season.
But you guys keep pumping each other up with the ag love fest, it's funny to watch, sad and pathetic, but funny. :lol
Reading between the lines... um, yep - those look like tears coming from you.
Wow, nice homer retort there, buddy. This Texas team is still very talented and was able to beat an LSU team that destroyed last year's UT team you seem to love so much.
Are you too ignorant to realize that Durant is 300 times better than Tucker, Aldridge, and Gibson combined? DJ Augustin is even a better PG than Gibson.
A third straight post-season for the first time in school history is more than "just one good season."
Ballcox
02-06-2007, 02:11 PM
^Damn, you're right Ron, you've got me pegged. I feel like I might have an Oprah moment any time now and just start gushing all over the place. Like I said, enjoy the success but excuse me if I'm not just falling all over myself in fear of mighty a&m basketball.
Damn, I'm laughing even as a I write this. I know it all relates to the inferiority complex that most a&m fans have regarding UT, but it's cool, I don't hold it against you.
In fact, I like seeing a&m improve with their sports programs, makes for better games and keeps that flame of hope alive that someday you'll actually be recognized as a top level college sports program. :lol :lol :lol
tlongII
02-06-2007, 04:06 PM
What kind of contract does Gillispie have? The first article pretty much just talked about facilities and recruits. Good coaches want to get paid. If some school offers a bunch more money he will be gone.
RonMexico
02-06-2007, 04:53 PM
What kind of contract does Gillispie have? The first article pretty much just talked about facilities and recruits. Good coaches want to get paid. If some school offers a bunch more money he will be gone.
After last year's tournament berth, the AD offered him a HUGE salary increase, but he declined and asked that the money be put to use in adding/improving facilities. That type of big picture attitude is what makes us think he's in it for the long term. Personally, I think that if Billy coached at a big program like Kansas, he would already have a Final 4 appearence or title and definitely wouldn't have bowed out in the first round for 2 straight years like Mr. Self did. Billy doesn't allow egos in his locker room or on his team and the steady success reflects this.
tlongII
02-06-2007, 05:32 PM
After last year's tournament berth, the AD offered him a HUGE salary increase, but he declined and asked that the money be put to use in adding/improving facilities. That type of big picture attitude is what makes us think he's in it for the long term. Personally, I think that if Billy coached at a big program like Kansas, he would already have a Final 4 appearence or title and definitely wouldn't have bowed out in the first round for 2 straight years like Mr. Self did. Billy doesn't allow egos in his locker room or on his team and the steady success reflects this.
Do you have a link regarding the huge salary increase? I would like to know more.
beachbarbie948
02-06-2007, 06:10 PM
^Enjoy it while it lasts. You beat a Texas team that lost EVERY starter from last year's team, wow, congrats. But as for this bullshit about winning at a 3:1 ration from here on out, give me a fucking break, are you that delusional?
Believe it or not, Texas basketball has established a pretty good tradition of winning here in the last 8 plus years, and I don't think we're going to just fall off the map because a&m is having one good season.
But you guys keep pumping each other up with the ag love fest, it's funny to watch, sad and pathetic, but funny. :lol
what's sad and pathetic is people like you wasting their time making fun of fans that are happy their team is winning
RonMexico
02-06-2007, 06:34 PM
Do you have a link regarding the huge salary increase? I would like to know more.
Actually, he got both the increase and the facility. Apparently, he got an increase in May or something as well, because I just saw a recent article that said Gillespie is now one of the highest paid in the Big 12.
http://www.aggieathletics.com/pressRelease.php?PRID=10967
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=910&CID=598454
Aggie Hoopsfan
02-06-2007, 09:03 PM
Believe it or not, Texas basketball has established a pretty good tradition of winning here in the last 8 plus years, and I don't think we're going to just fall off the map because a&m is having one good season.
You wouldn't think that listening to Barnes breaking down last night after the game, making back handed compliments to Billy, the crowd, the A&M athletic department, etc. Sounded like a man who knows he's going to be Billy's bitch for the rest of time (until the folks in Austin get fed up and can his ass).
[quote]
But you guys keep pumping each other up with the ag love fest, it's funny to watch, sad and pathetic, but funny./quote]
Kinda like Barnes in the press conference after the game last night.
mookie2001
02-06-2007, 09:49 PM
eddie sutton, kelvin sampson and roy williams totally opened the big12 up for yall
Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 10:20 PM
^Enjoy it while it lasts. You beat a Texas team that lost EVERY starter from last year's team, wow, congrats. But as for this bullshit about winning at a 3:1 ration from here on out, give me a fucking break, are you that delusional?
Believe it or not, Texas basketball has established a pretty good tradition of winning here in the last 8 plus years, and I don't think we're going to just fall off the map because a&m is having one good season.
But you guys keep pumping each other up with the ag love fest, it's funny to watch, sad and pathetic, but funny. :lol
What deadly sin is this? Hmmmm....
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 10:31 PM
But as for this bullshit about winning at a 3:1 ration from here on out, give me a fucking break, are you that delusional?
...obviously, i don't see that happening indefinitely. but for quite some time, cause its obvious to me Gillispie is a better coach than Barnes and with less talent. whats going to happen as A&M's better talent come in? not good for t.u., imo. plus, i think the team will only lose Law, Pompey, and Kavaliauskas. obviously, nothing to sneeze at...but our front court will be even better next year. the key is who will half-replace Law...and Sloan is a stud, while Carter is only a sophomore. good times ahead in Aggie Land.
mookie2001
02-06-2007, 10:33 PM
i think the team will only lose Law, Pompey, and Kavaliauskasbold statement
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 10:34 PM
bold statement
the only other guy that could possibly leave is Jones....and i don't see it.
mookie2001
02-06-2007, 10:36 PM
I was just joking naturally youll lose the seniors, I just dont see jones as the type that can carry a team, arent you somewhat dissapointed by his play this season?
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 10:42 PM
I was just joking naturally youll lose the seniors, I just dont see jones as the type that can carry a team, arent you somewhat dissapointed by his play this season?
i'm a little disappointed, but the guy is still a stud. he just can't stay out of foul trouble...which is very irritating. but, if he comes back next year that gives us Jones, Jordan, and Davis...thats better than what we have this year.
mookie2001
02-06-2007, 10:49 PM
I'll give acie credit, he singlehandely won that game and owned the shit out of dj augstine in every way shape or form. college bball is a PGs game, i see aTm being a totally different team without him
Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 10:54 PM
Losing Acie will not be overcome overnight. The team should still be top 25 next year.
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 10:56 PM
I'll give acie credit, he singlehandely won that game and owned the shit out of dj augstine in every way shape or form. college bball is a PGs game, i see aTm being a totally different team without him
perhaps, we shall see next year. but i thought the young Ags played great when Acie left the game. this may sound crazy, but i think the team could be even better next year...could be.
Marcus Bryant
02-06-2007, 11:00 PM
perhaps, we shall see next year. but i thought the young Ags played great when Acie left the game. this may sound crazy, but i think the team could be even better next year...could be.
Some parts of the rotation may improve, but you are losing the one guy who can take over a game and hit some clutch shots.
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 11:04 PM
Some parts of the rotation may improve, but you are losing the one guy who can take over a game and hit some clutch shots.
i agree with that, the guard play will be key. but i definitely see the front court improved and our depth better.
BradLohaus
02-06-2007, 11:12 PM
Kinda like Barnes in the press conference after the game last night.
What did Barnes say after the game?
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 11:19 PM
What did Barnes say after the game?
t.u. sucks.
RonMexico
02-06-2007, 11:21 PM
eddie sutton, kelvin sampson and roy williams totally opened the big12 up for yall
Things they opened:
Sutton - liquor bottle
Sampson - checkbook for recruits
Williams - his asshole after every tourney choke job
mookie2001
02-06-2007, 11:24 PM
a&m bball owes a lot to those three men
johngateswhiteley
02-06-2007, 11:34 PM
a&m bball owes a lot to those three men
whatever tea-sip. go try and take away credit or irritate other fans...A&M is too busy winning the big 12.
mookie2001
02-07-2007, 12:32 AM
sutton, sampson and williams leaving, those are two LEGENDS and one coach who brought OU up strong, it helped out a&m, texas, tech, kstate a shitload
sghspurs
02-07-2007, 02:47 AM
^Enjoy it while it lasts. You beat a Texas team that lost EVERY starter from last year's team, wow, congrats. But as for this bullshit about winning at a 3:1 ration from here on out, give me a fucking break, are you that delusional?
Believe it or not, Texas basketball has established a pretty good tradition of winning here in the last 8 plus years, and I don't think we're going to just fall off the map because a&m is having one good season.
But you guys keep pumping each other up with the ag love fest, it's funny to watch, sad and pathetic, but funny. :lol
Congrats on your 8 plus years of winning. I know the horns will be back, but if we want to pump each other up and be delusional because for the first time ever, we have a special team, then you can just deal with it dude. We've heard how great the horns are for a long time in every sport and for once we are getting our moment in the sun. :toast
sghspurs
02-07-2007, 03:13 AM
^Damn, you're right Ron, you've got me pegged. I feel like I might have an Oprah moment any time now and just start gushing all over the place. Like I said, enjoy the success but excuse me if I'm not just falling all over myself in fear of mighty a&m basketball.
Damn, I'm laughing even as a I write this. I know it all relates to the inferiority complex that most a&m fans have regarding UT, but it's cool, I don't hold it against you.
In fact, I like seeing a&m improve with their sports programs, makes for better games and keeps that flame of hope alive that someday you'll actually be recognized as a top level college sports program. :lol :lol :lol
SEN-SI-TIVE
johngateswhiteley
02-07-2007, 05:52 AM
We've heard how great the horns are for a long time in every sport and for once we are getting our moment in the sun. :toast
no kidding. btw, the spinach was magnificent, lol.
IcemanCometh
02-07-2007, 10:10 AM
aggy is funny, you guys always get so excited only to jump off a cliff soon after.
Ballcox
02-07-2007, 01:00 PM
^It's typical ag bullshit, crap on UT all day long with their inferiority complex and think that one ongoing decent season somehow cements them as one of the 'elite' of college basketball.
The fact is that Barnes is every bit as good a coach as anyone in the country and he will also continue to bring in top level talent. He's been doing it for 9 plus seasons now. Hell, I like good competition and it will be fun to watch head to head battles against a&m, ou, ttech, ok. state, etc.
But excuse me if I'm not joining in the big love fest, I'm a UT fan and will continue to drop in on your little inside threads about a&m just like you guys feel free to comment on UT threads, such is the nature of message boards, get the fuck over it.
johngateswhiteley
02-07-2007, 01:12 PM
^It's typical ag bullshit, crap on UT all day long with their inferiority complex and think that one ongoing decent season somehow cements them as one of the 'elite' of college basketball.
The fact is that Barnes is every bit as good a coach as anyone in the country and he will also continue to bring in top level talent. He's been doing it for 9 plus seasons now. Hell, I like good competition and it will be fun to watch head to head battles against a&m, ou, ttech, ok. state, etc.
But excuse me if I'm not joining in the big love fest, I'm a UT fan and will continue to drop in on your little inside threads about a&m just like you guys feel free to comment on UT threads, such is the nature of message boards, get the fuck over it.
1. Gillispie is a better coach than Barnes
2. A&M owns t.u. this year
...get over that.
Oscar DeLa
02-07-2007, 01:15 PM
I don't know what it is but Gillespie went to the Final Four and the Elite 8!
Ballcox
02-07-2007, 01:47 PM
^Based on what jgw? Your personal opinion? You want to compare coaching stats between the two, success in the tournament?
In that case it's even more clear that Barnes is the better coach if you're going by stats, deal with that.
And a&m does not 'own' UT this year, you guys defended your home court and their is still one game left to be played in Austin. If a&m wins that game, yes they have 'owned' UT this season. But comparing your one decent ongoing season to the kind of success we've had over the last 8 plus seasons is a complete joke.
And I know you know this, so keep up your posturing for your fellow a&m chums and then accept the fact that you're full of shit. :lol
johngateswhiteley
02-07-2007, 01:54 PM
^Based on what jgw? Your personal opinion? You want to compare coaching stats between the two, success in the tournament?
In that case it's even more clear that Barnes is the better coach if you're going by stats, deal with that.
And a&m does not 'own' UT this year, you guys defended your home court and their is still one game left to be played in Austin. If a&m wins that game, yes they have 'owned' UT this season. But comparing your one decent ongoing season to the kind of success we've had over the last 8 plus seasons is a complete joke.
And I know you know this, so keep up your posturing for your fellow a&m chums and then accept the fact that you're full of shit. :lol
i am not worried at all about the game in austin...we'll beat you chumps again. and to compare coaching stats between Gillispie and Barnes is idiotic. Billy is better...and its just the beginning.
Ballcox
02-07-2007, 01:58 PM
^Listen, we could go all day about who is the better coach, but at this point all you've got is your opinion, that's it and it doens't amount to much.
Coaches are judged by how much they win and at what level they win at. In that context Barnes is the better coach. He's won coaching in the Big East, ACC and the Big XII with multiple sweet 16, final 8 and one final 4 appearance.
Fact, Gillespie can't hold a candle to that. Deal with it.
johngateswhiteley
02-07-2007, 02:02 PM
^Listen, we could go all day about who is the better coach, but at this point all you've got is your opinion, that's it and it doens't amount to much.
Coaches are judged by how much they win and at what level they win at. In that context Barnes is the better coach. He's won coaching in the Big East, ACC and the Big XII with multiple sweet 16, final 8 and one final 4 appearance.
Fact, Gillespie can't hold a candle to that. Deal with it.
...like i said, if you want to compare history...sure, Barnes has Gillispie beat. but if you want to compare who is the better coach....its Gillispie.
i'll pm you when A&M beats t.u. again later this year. scoreboard...btw, whats t.u.'s record in college station since Gillispie arrived? and who has had the better talent? just curious...
Oscar DeLa
02-07-2007, 02:06 PM
I don't know what it is but if you throw out wins, tournament success and draft picks, Gillespie is much better!
Ballcox
02-07-2007, 02:09 PM
^ I think our talent is just as good as yours, and your also basing who's the better coach on the few times Barnes and Gillespie have gone against each other?
Great thinking there jgw, your getting more dense by the day. These guys are going to have some great battles against each other, it has only just begun. What you're doing is like awarding the winner of a marathon after the first 5 miles, typical short sighted ag.
Don't worry, I'm used to it by now. :lol
johngateswhiteley
02-07-2007, 02:10 PM
^ I think our talent is just as good as yours, and your also basing who's the better coach on the few times Barnes and Gillespie have gone against each other?
Great thinking there jgw, your getting more dense by the day. These guys are going to have some great battles against each other, it has only just begun. What you're doing is like awarding the winner of a marathon after the first 5 miles, typical short sighted ag.
Don't worry, I'm used to it by now. :lol
...you're assuming. you missed what i was referring to...but why would you bother to ask, you're a tea-sip.
Ballcox
02-07-2007, 02:39 PM
^You're un-objective and narrow minded about your team, but why should that be a surprise? You're an ag.
What you got next jgw? Your dad is going to beat up my dad? Are you sure you're not really about 12-13 yrs. old? :lol
sghspurs
02-07-2007, 03:58 PM
^It's typical ag bullshit, crap on UT all day long with their inferiority complex and think that one ongoing decent season somehow cements them as one of the 'elite' of college basketball.
The fact is that Barnes is every bit as good a coach as anyone in the country and he will also continue to bring in top level talent. He's been doing it for 9 plus seasons now. Hell, I like good competition and it will be fun to watch head to head battles against a&m, ou, ttech, ok. state, etc.
But excuse me if I'm not joining in the big love fest, I'm a UT fan and will continue to drop in on your little inside threads about a&m just like you guys feel free to comment on UT threads, such is the nature of message boards, get the fuck over it.
I apologize from the bottom of my heart for the suffering our aggie bullshit has caused you. It's just that we are so incredibly inferior and can never live up to the standard of greatness the Univerity of Texas has established. Oh the humanity. :dramaquee
As far as what you said about barnes, your right. Barnes will continue to get top level talent and is an outstanding coach. I look forward to our games every year now because they are competitve and fun to watch. All we have done is hold serve at home, but have not won in Austin for I don't know how long. We could lose again there this year. We haven't been to any final fours or elite 8's and I hope we do this year. I also know that a season like this may never happen again. We are just enjoying it right now.
You don't have to join the love fest. I respect UT, but wouldn't join the love fest for the horns either. And nobody really gives a shit if you love A&M or hate it. If others want to comment and bash you guys on one of your UT threads then thats their problem, but I don't do that. For now though, don't worry about us because we'll all jump off a cliff sooner or later. :)
Ballcox
02-07-2007, 04:11 PM
^Hey, it's cool, I love good competition as much as the next guy. You just have to keep in mind that jgw's sole purpose (as he's stated on this board) was to 'crash' threads relating to UT, and he's not only done that but also brought a good deal of bullshit and a&m homerism along with him.
So, I feel it's only right to crash his a&m threads when he goes on and on about a&m all day long. If he was actually civilized about his posts and objective that would be one thing, but he's not.
All we get to hear is about a&m 'owning' UT, Barnes is a chump, etc. Notice in my threads I haven't lowered myself to labeling a&m as chumps or anything else, you can thank your boy jgw for that. AND, if he would just confine himself to a&m/usc threads you wouldn't see me jumping in on a thread about Gillespie, you guys could go on all day with the love fest, have at it.
However, jgw can't help himself. Hell, just posting some basic info on the Horns or talking about their season and he jumps right in with something demeaning to say. So, I know I'm supposed to take the high road and everything, but jgw's level of idoicy prevents me from doing so. :lol
sghspurs
02-07-2007, 04:40 PM
^ I understand that. Do what you gotta do
johngateswhiteley
02-08-2007, 03:08 AM
You just have to keep in mind that jgw's sole purpose (as he's stated on this board) was to 'crash' threads relating to UT, and he's not only done that but also brought a good deal of bullshit and a&m homerism along with him.
All we get to hear is about a&m 'owning' UT, Barnes is a chump, etc. Notice in my threads I haven't lowered myself to labeling a&m as chumps or anything else, you can thank your boy jgw for that. AND, if he would just confine himself to a&m/usc threads you wouldn't see me jumping in on a thread about Gillespie, you guys could go on all day with the love fest, have at it.
However, jgw can't help himself. Hell, just posting some basic info on the Horns or talking about their season and he jumps right in with something demeaning to say. So, I know I'm supposed to take the high road and everything, but jgw's level of idoicy prevents me from doing so. :lol
huh? ...t.u. fans around here are, mainly, chumps. they don't really know anything about sports and their opinions are next to worthless. you think my 3:1 ratio guess is crazy...fine, see what happens. other than that all i do is post what i think or facts...nothing i say is outrageous or ridiculous. i just happen to post on a predominantly t.u. driven board and i am considered a homer b/c of it. fact:
1. A&M is on the rise and when they beat t.u. in austin, they will have 'owned' t.u. this year
2. USC has been the best college football team the past 5 years, collectively. and i don't need any tea-sips to agree with me to make it so...its quite obvious
Ballcox
02-08-2007, 12:13 PM
^Not recently they haven't, we BEAT you, remember? The supposedly greatest college football team of all time LOST to us, so in recent history we're the better football team.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it homer.
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