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sribb43
02-06-2007, 04:17 PM
http://www.clublakers.com/forums/mark-my-words-lakers-will-come-out-of-the-west-this-year-t67611.html

assuming they are all healthy (excluding Mihm, McKie, Shammond, etc)

the Lakers will come out of the west.

The only teams in a 7 game series that could maybe beat the Lakers when all healthy, are the Mavs, Suns, Spurs, Jazz, Denver, and Rockets.

V.S. Mavs:

-Ok so they got Nowitzki who normally kills everyone, but in our case we match up well. First off, Odom does probly as good a job you can on Dirk b/c he is long, faster, and more athletic than Nowitzki. Plus Odom will make Dirk work on the other end. 2ndly The mavs interior Defense SUCKS! ok so now they are a good defensive team??? No!!! Their inside D is weak......and we all know how kobe will on them whenever he wants. Luke, odom, kwame, and bynum can score inside on the MAVS weak bigs....so we'll get layups all day.

-Scared of Devin Harris? don't be.....he isn't as good as billups or arenas at running into ppl and getting fouls...he gets charges more often...so don't worry about that. J-Terry?? Be afraid, but he won't lead the Mavs past us in 7 games. Josh Howard? He's good, in fact he's real good, but his shot sucks....and the Lakers will realize this.

Anyways.....Lakers OWN mavs and we will win.

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PHX:

They have the best chance against us...... Amare is back and they beat us last year. What's diff. this yr???

Luke is better. Odom is better. Kwame is better. Bynum plays now! We have Vlad! even Farmar helps......and i'm sure Smush will hit a shot this year vs PhX.........

PHX's scheme of smalls was an asset v.s. us in my opinion. Not that Amare makes them worse, but I don't think they will be as a effective. And not having TIM THOMAS!!! OMG he killed us........ who's shooting those 3's for them this year and bringing our BIg out to the 3pt line.

Our team has improved way more than PHX and considering they no defense at all, we should be fine......won't be easy.....but in 7 Lakers will win b/c they've already been through a series with PHX and without TIM THOMAS making EVERY THREE!!! phx will not win.

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Spurs:

real simple for why we beat them. Kwame Locks Tim Duncan. Don't double team duncan and we win. Ginobili will draw fouls, but he's the only one who will do anything great for them. Tony parker can't shoot, so we back off him. Plus the spurs' centers Suck.....Oberto??? Elson??? Garbage compared to Mohammed and Rasho's tall butts......

Not enough shooting power or offense to beat us in 7 games......oh yea....and Odom always kills the spurs. Step back three pointer! Nothing but net LOL and we're all like WTF!!!???

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Utah jazz:

unpredictable......Okur is so clutch and will mess up close games b/t us. Even Deron Williams is becoming clutch. Plus the ball bounce to Carlos Boozer for every Off. Reb.......so basically I have to say that based on our experience of beiing in the Playoffs will help us through them.

I don't see them stopping Kobe or Odom...but they will be tough. But like I said....... Deron is a 2nd year and I don't believe will lead them past us. Plus their bench is pretty young with Brewer and Milhsap, so I think we're good.

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Denver:

We wiin b/c their defense Sucks.......that simple....... we will struggle to guard them, but they will struggle more.........

No one will be able to guard Odom or Kobe....... we win....point simple.

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Rockets:

Alright we can't stop Yao...........yet!!!! We will learn how to contain him.....if anyone can do it....it's Kwame and bynum.......Kwame for strength and Bynum for his length.....

What about TMAC??? We have Kobe...who is better...'nuff said.

Who's guarding Odom??? Juwan? NO!!! STFU!

We win in probly 5 or 6.

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in all.....I believe Dallas, PHX and UTAH have the best chances to upset us. But i don't see it happening if our guys are healthy... Lemme know what you guys think.. Peace-aTM

p.s. the only teamwe would lose to would be Portland if everygame was in Oregon.
TheMulvany
02-06-2007, 04:21 PM
That might be the funniest thing I've ever read. Lakers fans are idiots. I can't blame them, though, because have you ever watched a Lakers game on TV? I watched a couple on NBA TV and their broadcasters are the ones that build up the Lakers like they're good. In the first week of the season they were saying "No one will be surprised if the Lakers win the West." I bet they've said it the last 2 years, too.

Josh Howard's shot sucks? He's shooting about 50% from the field.

Phoenix plays no defense? Right...and neither do the Lakers. In fact, the Lakers are worse offensively and defensively than the Suns.

Kwame is going to shut down Tim Duncan? hahahahahahahha
cheguevara
02-06-2007, 04:30 PM
what makes you think the scribblings of a 9 year are worth a thread here? waste of time reading that
sribb43
02-06-2007, 04:40 PM
what makes you think the scribblings of a 9 year are worth a thread here? waste of time reading that

Thought it would be a good laugh for the day
dirk4mvp
02-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Who's guarding Odom??? Juwan? NO!!! STFU!

:lol
dirk4mvp
02-06-2007, 04:45 PM
The guy basically thinks Odom is a first ballot hall of famer doesn't he? :lol
BgT
02-06-2007, 05:00 PM
The only teams in a 7 game series that could maybe beat the Lakers when all healthy, are the Mavs, Suns, Spurs, Jazz, Denver, and Rockets.

Maybe he should make post shorter by saying which team(s) CAN'T beat Lakers instead.
JamStone
02-06-2007, 05:03 PM
http://www.nba.com/games/20061212/LALHOU/boxscore.html
http://www.nba.com/games/20061215/HOULAL/boxscore.html
http://www.nba.com/games/20070107/DALLAL/boxscore.html
http://www.nba.com/games/20061210/SASLAL/boxscore.html
http://www.nba.com/games/20070117/LALSAS/boxscore.html


Sure, it's a little over-the-top to say no team has a chance against the Lakers. But, the Lakers have proven they are more than capable of not only competing with the other best teams in the Western Conference, but also beating them.
BgT
02-06-2007, 05:05 PM
http://www.nba.com/games/20061212/LALHOU/boxscore.html
http://www.nba.com/games/20061215/HOULAL/boxscore.html
http://www.nba.com/games/20070107/DALLAL/boxscore.html
http://www.nba.com/games/20061210/SASLAL/boxscore.html
http://www.nba.com/games/20070117/LALSAS/boxscore.html


Sure, it's a little over-the-top to say no team has a chance against the Lakers. But, the Lakers have proven they are more than capable of not only competing with the other best teams in the Western Conference, but also beating them.
That's why 4/7 games need to be won.
Bob Lanier
02-06-2007, 05:25 PM
Other than the grammar and questionable command of English vocabulary, I can't say that any of that is "ridiculous".

The Lakers are as good as any team in the NBA, and certainly have matchup advantages against any team, even the (relatively mediocre) Big Three.
Sportcamper
02-06-2007, 05:38 PM
:nerd Is it true that Steve Nash is injured? :nerd
spurs_fan_in_exile
02-06-2007, 05:59 PM
It's not totally inaccurate, but the things that the guy gets wrong are SOOOOO wrong that it makes the whole thing look bad. For instance, I think the guy is right that Odom is one of the few guys in the league that isn't a total mismatch for Dirk, but he's wrong about the Mavs interior D. None of their bigs are great post defenders, but they have enough big bodies willing to play physical to clog the paint. They don't count on Diop, Damp, or Mbenga to do much scoring so it's not the end of the world if they use all six fouls to keep Kobe from scoring at will and getting into a rhythm.

And he's right that the Spurs bigs suck ass right now. He's also probably right about not doubling Duncan, but not because Brown would have a prayer of locking him up. That strategy would keep the rest of team from getting into the flow of the game and turning it into a game of 1 on 5 down the stretch. It's the same strategy that a number of teams have used to beat teams with superstar big men. And Parker not having a shot? Dude's on crack. Right now the Lakers are looking like as legit of contenders as anyone in the wide open west, I'll give him that, but this guy is still a dipshit.
Medvedenko
02-06-2007, 06:04 PM
The fan is just that...a fanatic...we match well when healthy. Big iff. Also, I don't see us coming out of the west unless TD, Nash, and Dirk all get injured.
LakeShow
02-06-2007, 06:22 PM
The fan is just that...a fanatic...we match well when healthy. Big iff. Also, I don't see us coming out of the west unless TD, Nash, and Dirk all get injured.

Are you serious? Thats ridiculous! The lakers have just as much as a chance as those teams to win the west!
BigBinBigD
02-06-2007, 06:32 PM
Are you serious? Thats ridiculous! The lakers have just as much as a chance as those teams to win the west!

Uh, probably not. Last I checked, neither Jerry West, Jabbar, Magic, nor Shaq are wearing the purple and gold anymore. Keep dreaming, though.
LakeShow
02-06-2007, 06:38 PM
Uh, probably not. Last I checked, neither Jerry West, Jabbar, Magic, nor Shaq are wearing the purple and gold anymore. Keep dreaming, though.

Kobe Bryant sure is, and so is Phil Jackson. I guess we can definitely count out the Mavs. NO TITLES EVER! :rolleyes
ShackO
02-06-2007, 09:07 PM
Are you serious? Thats ridiculous! The lakers have just as much as a chance as those teams to win the west!

You ever post there??? I have posted there many times. ALthough not recently..........

Homer central bar none................. Cracked full of idiots and morons..... A lot like many other sites.................. There are several good and knowledgeable posters there

ol, marked. They can't defend, they're too young and therefore too inconsistent.In a playoff setting they have to defend pick and roll, they can't. They have to bring the mental stamina (maintaining intensity, execution and focus) necessary to close out games in crunch time, haven't shown it yet. They have to show the maturity to finish teams off rather than let them back in, particularly on the road. The Lakers have improved enough over the course of the season to upgrade from first and out to second and out. However, coming out of the west means they have to beat Phoenix or Dallas in a road series. Their defense and consistency are too weak to pull that off. Unless they somehow land Kidd.
Tradition
02-06-2007, 10:32 PM
While I disagree with this fans unrealistic arrogance about the Mavs D,Howards shot, and Kwame shutting down Duncan, the Lakers can hang with ANY team in the west. They will give teams a run for their money and will be tough as hell to take down. We do have the greatest coach of all time and the best perimeter player on our team so of course our chances of making the finals are not out of the question. IMO I just feel they need another good playoff run and come next season, they will be an even more realistic threat to win it all. Just dont underestimate the greatest franchise in NBA history (No it isnt the celts).
Leetonidas
02-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Kwame locking down Tim Duncan? Tony can't shoot? :lmao
NuGGeTs-FaN
02-06-2007, 10:54 PM
what a load of rubbish

Any of the top 8 Western teams can beat anyone else when they are healthy. The reality is that not all teams will be healthy now or come playoff time.

The Nuggets certainly arent a .500 team but their record shows the effect of injury after injury and the total lack of chemistry.
Flopper
02-06-2007, 11:47 PM
Yao would punish them and with the current Tmac playing, Rockets would own the Lakers in a 7 game match.
Trainwreck2100
02-07-2007, 12:06 AM
This stuff is no different than some Spurs fans posts about idiotic trades, let people ne homers on their own board
Bob Lanier
02-07-2007, 12:37 AM
Kwame locking down Tim Duncan?
Of course that depends on what one considers "locking down", but Brown is easily one of the best post defenders in the NBA and can probably hold Duncan well below 50% shooting if he can stay on the floor.

That statement is similar to penciling in Bruce Bowen as slowing down Kobe Bryant ... the difference is that Brown has a more consistent impact on the defensive end than Bowen does.
Purple & Gold
02-07-2007, 02:22 AM
I actually agree with alot of things he says. I'm not saying we are coming out of the West, but we do matchup well with many different teams. Dallas are the favorites right now and are still the team to beat. But anytime you have the best player and the best coach, you have a very good chance of winning.
CruelMonkey
02-07-2007, 02:30 AM
Can the Lakers win on any given night against those teams? Sure. 4/7? No.
Purple & Gold
02-07-2007, 02:34 AM
Can the Lakers win on any given night against those teams? Sure. 4/7? No.
I think that's the real question. As for the Lakers weakness it is at the point guard position. And IMO that is the most important position (that and center). That's why I'm not convinced that they will come out of the West. But we do matchup very well with Phoenix and San Antonio. I like our chances against them if we do meet in the second round.
LakeShow
02-07-2007, 05:26 PM
You ever post there??? I have posted there many times. ALthough not recently..........

Homer central bar none................. Cracked full of idiots and morons..... A lot like many other sites.................. There are several good and knowledgeable posters there

It's no different than this forum, Sac forum, Mavs forum, Suns forum, etc.. they're all like that. You should be the one to speak on that, the kings forums were the worst. Filled with Idiots and morons and homers!
LakeShow
02-07-2007, 05:28 PM
Of course that depends on what one considers "locking down", but Brown is easily one of the best post defenders in the NBA and can probably hold Duncan well below 50% shooting if he can stay on the floor.

That statement is similar to penciling in Bruce Bowen as slowing down Kobe Bryant ... the difference is that Brown has a more consistent impact on the defensive end than Bowen does.

Agreed, I took that to mean Kwame could guard Duncan one on one. Not that he could stop him, but slow him down.
Tradition
02-07-2007, 05:33 PM
You cant dog on Laker fans for also believing that we have the greatest franchise in NBA history and one of the best in overall sports. While this trend can exceed alot, we have high expectations of our team just like spurs/suns/mavs fans do.
Sportcamper
02-07-2007, 05:58 PM
Everyone pretty much thinks you are a wuss Kwame...
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/marty_burns/11/16/kwame.brown/t1_kobe.kwame.jpg
Bob Lanier
02-07-2007, 06:15 PM
Phil Jackson on the Lakers:

All you guys can do is play video games and watch porn movies.
Medvedenko
02-07-2007, 06:43 PM
I love that quote from Phil...on his disdain regarding the books he offers his players to read.
LilMissSPURfect
02-09-2007, 11:08 AM
Maybe he should make post shorter by saying which team(s) CAN'T beat Lakers instead.



:lol :lol
ambchang
02-09-2007, 12:39 PM
Other than the grammar and questionable command of English vocabulary, I can't say that any of that is "ridiculous".

The Lakers are as good as any team in the NBA, and certainly have matchup advantages against any team, even the (relatively mediocre) Big Three.

Except the following ....


in all.....I believe Dallas, PHX and UTAH have the best chances to upset us. But i don't see it happening if our guys are healthy... Lemme know what you guys think..

I wouldn't call Dallas, Pheonix and Utah beating the Lakers in a 7 game series an "upset", it's more the other way around.

I believe the Lakers are one of 5 legit contenders to the NBA championship (Mavs, Suns, Spurs and Pistons being the other four, and the Heat has to play a LOT better than they do now to be called contenders), but I wouldn't exactly call them the favourites in any of the series vs. the other four contenders.