this dude is the best rapper alive...

[Fillmoe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Vaz9jW054&eurl=

[Pablo Escobar]

:lol are you fucking kidding me

[TheSanityAnnex]

Tupac Shakur, rest in peace, he was the best, my respect. :lmao

[johnpaulwall21]

Hes got nothin on this fuck face.... :music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtILxBszyf8&mode=related&search=

[kingsfan]

Poor fill he's officially lost it http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[Viva Las Espuelas]

"Best" and "rapper" don't belong in the same sentence.

[dave]

Hes got nothin on this fuck face.... :music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtILxBszyf8&mode=related&search=

LMAO :lol

[mavs>spurs2]

The best rapper was probably Tupac followed closely by Eminem in his prime, not that Encore shit he put out.

[NorCal510]

e 40 bitches

[mavs>spurs2]

e 40 has nothing on tupac eminem biggie or any of the best rappers.

[johnpaulwall21]

e 40 sucks balls, texas underground is better

[NorCal510]

e 40 sucks balls, texas underground is better
bro bro u need to check yo self yay area rap is better than tex underground nothin can stop da hyphy movement

[johnpaulwall21]

I dont know much bout that hyphy movement but it kinda sounds like crunk music to me. I also wasnt sayin nothin bout other bay area rappers, since i havent heard them. I just think e 40 sucks and i have heard him rap.

[mavs>spurs2]

:lmao :lmao :lmao TUPAC???!!! followed CLOSELY by EMINEM????!!! :lmao :lmao dude you're about as cool as AIDS

I shouldn't even respond to that but.....who do you think is better? Tupac is the best according to alot of people, that's not something I just pulled out of my ass. Just who in the hell do you think is so damn good?

[Trainwreck2100]

Tupac Shakur rest in peace


:lol :lol :lol

[mavs>spurs2]

^ Not to mention the fact that pac has sold the most rap albums EVER, and eminem isnt too far behind.

[Trainwreck2100]

I learned that Sometime people start a war and don't know what it's for

[NorCal510]

e40, keak da sneak, hyphy movement, ya heard!

[mavs>spurs2]

erick sermon. krs-one, nas, the jza, the rza, raekwon the chef, ghostface killah, every member of the beastie boys.....plus tupac is not alive...every member of the ghetto boys, every member of tribe called quest, quasimoto, and del the funky homosapien

Tupac has sold more albums than all of those guys combined....nas and ghostface killah are alright but i rest my case. Tupac was a lyrical genius.

[johnpaulwall21]

erick sermon. krs-one, nas, the jza, the rza, raekwon the chef, ghostface killah, every member of the beastie boys.....plus tupac is not alive...every member of the ghetto boys, every member of tribe called quest, quasimoto, and del the funky homosapien are all old has beens

:wakeup

[mavs>spurs2]

^ :lol at lil wayne

[johnpaulwall21]

IS this the rap thread?????

[NorCal510]

elpimpo get da fuk outta hurr

[johnpaulwall21]

i dont like eminem but 2pac had several hits.

[mavs>spurs2]

Let's just say for some odd reason eminem and tupac are the highest selling rappers of all time and leave it at that. You can sit here and bitch all you want about who you think is better but in reality eminem is rich as hell and doesn't give a fuck what you think when its all said and done he will have sold the most rap albums EVER. That's if he can get his act together and not put out anymore shit like Encore that was just terrible.

[NorCal510]

Nuff said bitches

http://www.murderdog.com/archives/e-40/E-40Image.jpg

[johnpaulwall21]

calm down shit head

[TheSanityAnnex]

Just who in the hell do you think is so damn good?
Warlocks
Tommy Tee
Atmosphere
Brother Ali
GZA
RZA
Josh Martinez
Swollen Members
Abstract Rude
Moka Only
Sleep
OutKast
Goodie Mob
Jim Crow
Youngbloodz
El-P
Aesop Rock
Rob Sonic
Nas
Cunninglynguists
Mos Def
Onry Ozzborn
The Chicarones
Sage Francis
Soul Position
Grouch
Madlib
Non Prophets
Vakill
MF Doom
Slug
Lateef
Do or Die
Sole
Eyedea
Mc Paul Barman
Supernatural
Juice
Mr. Dibbs
Cage
Dose One
Unknown Prophets
Blueprint
Visionaries
Lone Catalysts
7L and Esoteric
Akrobatik
Mr. Lif
Akinyele
Jaylib
Channel Live
Fatman Scoop
Haiku D'Etat
Non Phixon
ODB
Notorious BIG
Keith Murray
Mathematics
Illogic
Tonedeff
Session
Wordsworth
Immortal Technique
PackFM

And that's not including any Cali dudes I listen to. There are too many.

[mavs>spurs2]

Warlocks
Tommy Tee
Atmosphere
Brother Ali
GZA
RZA
Josh Martinez
Swollen Members
Abstract Rude
Moka Only
Sleep
OutKast
Goodie Mob
Jim Crow
Youngbloodz
El-P
Aesop Rock
Rob Sonic
Nas
Cunninglynguists
Mos Def
Onry Ozzborn
The Chicarones
Sage Francis
Soul Position
Grouch
Madlib
Non Prophets
Vakill
MF Doom
Slug
Lateef
Do or Die
Sole
Eyedea
Mc Paul Barman
Supernatural
Juice
Mr. Dibbs
Cage
Dose One
Unknown Prophets
Blueprint
Visionaries
Lone Catalysts
7L and Esoteric
Akrobatik
Mr. Lif
Akinyele
Jaylib
Channel Live
Fatman Scoop
Haiku D'Etat
Non Phixon
ODB
Notorious BIG
Keith Murray
Mathematics
Illogic
Tonedeff
Session
Wordsworth
Immortal Technique
PackFM

And that's not including any Cali dudes I listen to. There are too many.

I'll admit that I don't know who half of those guys are but I have no problem with the other half. Biggie should also be up there as one of the best.

[TheSanityAnnex]

and tupac and eminem shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as mr. biggie smalls
Agreed.

[TheSanityAnnex]

yes. EVEN lil wayne is better than tupac or eminem
Disagree.

[johnpaulwall21]

i can agree with eldipshit on that. Notorious is better than both put together.

[mavs>spurs2]

Lil wayne blows all his songs talk about the same shit.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Warlocks
Tommy Tee
Atmosphere
Brother Ali
GZA
RZA
Josh Martinez
Swollen Members
Abstract Rude
Moka Only
Sleep
OutKast
Goodie Mob
Jim Crow
Youngbloodz
El-P
Aesop Rock
Rob Sonic
Nas
Cunninglynguists
Mos Def
Onry Ozzborn
The Chicarones
Sage Francis
Soul Position
Grouch
Madlib
Non Prophets
Vakill
MF Doom
Slug
Lateef
Do or Die
Sole
Eyedea
Mc Paul Barman
Supernatural
Juice
Mr. Dibbs
Cage
Dose One
Unknown Prophets
Blueprint
Visionaries
Lone Catalysts
7L and Esoteric
Akrobatik
Mr. Lif
Akinyele
Jaylib
Channel Live
Fatman Scoop
Haiku D'Etat
Non Phixon
ODB
Notorious BIG
Keith Murray
Mathematics
Illogic
Tonedeff
Session
Wordsworth
Immortal Technique
PackFM

And that's not including any Cali dudes I listen to. There are too many.

You do know that he also went by The Notorious B.I.G.? :lmao
Of course he's up there.

[NorCal510]

Keak da sneak,e40, n the hyphy movement no doubt bout it

[mavs>spurs2]

seriously how could you argue that EMINEM! or TUPAC! were the greatest rappers
I don't know what is your definition of best, but to me the best is the person with the most success. And as far as sells go, they are the best, and you can't argue that. You can say tupac sucks but over 75 million people say otherwise.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't personally care for Eminem, but lyrically, that dude can spit. His older works and underground stuff is quite amazing. He's got better word play and wit than most guys rapping now. But again, he just ain't for me.

[mavs>spurs2]

Eminem was at his best when he was underground, and was still pretty good until Encore came out. I don't know what the hell happened there but he really fell off his game.

[johnpaulwall21]

Mike jones!!! mike jones mike jones!!!! and lil flip

sheahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smokin

[TheSanityAnnex]

:patiently awaiting TxJudson to come in claiming Cham's the greatest to ever hold a mic:

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't see how anyone could label someone "the best". A broad top 20 sure, but in the end, it all comes down to personal taste. Shit, some fool out there honestly thinks Lil John is the best rapper alive. And in his own mind, he's right.

[mavs>spurs2]

:patiently awaiting TxJudson to come in claiming Cham's the greatest to ever hold a mic:

:idiot

[johnpaulwall21]

Eminem was at his best when he was underground, and was still pretty good until Encore came out. I don't know what the hell happened there but he really fell off his game.

I used to like his first two cds but he turned too cartooney

[TheSanityAnnex]

I used to like his first two cds but he turned too cartooney
And also got rich.

Main reason I stick to listening to the underground scene. Don't have to deal with the crap that commercialism turns artists into.

[dirk4mvp]

^ :lol at lil wayne


:lol at he's right

[mavs>spurs2]

:lol at he's right

Who's right?

[dirk4mvp]

snoop lil wayne b-real dmx

[NorCal510]

wheres that bitch at judsonrocket that lil fruit color guard kid that claimed he was a G and chamillionaire was the best rapper lmao

[mavs>spurs2]

Sorry, I can't stand lil wayne his songs are too repetitive. Come to think of it, I don't personally know any lil wayne fans. But I guess if it works for u than thats cool.

[johnpaulwall21]

And also got rich.

Main reason I stick to listening to the underground scene. Don't have to deal with the crap that commercialism turns artists into.

Thats what Im always sayin, I used to listen to cham, jones, paulwall, before they blew up. chams old flows used to be wayy better than they do now.
I like the old Screwed Up Click!!!!!!!

[mavs>spurs2]

The main reason I like eminem and Tupac is because they rapped about real life things, not how much money and bling they have like 99% of today's mainstream rappers.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Out of all those you quoted, Snoop could be the only one considered to be "good". And I mean young Snoop, not this "drop it likes it hot, drop it like its hot" new Snoop. I'm talking about the "bow wow wow yippe yo yippe yeah, the sounds of a dog bring me to another day" Snoop. You know, the "what's my motherfucking name" Snoop. Now that was the shit.

[dirk4mvp]

Sorry, I can't stand lil wayne his songs are too repetitive. Come to think of it, I don't personally know any lil wayne fans. But I guess if it works for u than thats cool.


I'm betting the only Lil Wayne song you really know is stuntin like my daddy.....which was trash.

[johnpaulwall21]

Sorry, I can't stand lil wayne his songs are too repetitive. Come to think of it, I don't personally know any lil wayne fans. But I guess if it works for u than thats cool.

Wayne was good in the cashmoney days.

[mookie2001]

elpimpo isnt a fan of little wayne, we were just talking about this the other day, the best rapper with songs currently on the charts or rotation is lil wayne, stuntin like my daddy and rain on them hoes or whatever are better than every eminem cd combined

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'm betting the only Lil Wayne song you really know is stuntin like my daddy.....which was trash.
Is that the song where he admits his man-love for Baby? :lol

The only album Lil Wayne ever made that deserved a listen was "tha block is hot". Period.

[mavs>spurs2]

I'm betting the only Lil Wayne song you really know is stuntin like my daddy.....which was trash.

lmao at "fireman"

[NorCal510]

fuck this thread rap sucks penis

[NorCal510]

rap sucks

[NorCal510]

rap is gay

[NorCal510]

all of you are wannabe faggots

[NorCal510]

fuck rap

[johnpaulwall21]

manny fresh beats helped wayne out a lot

[johnpaulwall21]

fuck rap

:devil

Keep ur gay ass in hyphy mode biotch!!!!!!

[dirk4mvp]

lmao at "fireman"


falls into the same category as stuntin like my daddy...commercial and mainstream.

[NorCal510]

rap is for wannabe ass faggots fuck rap bitches

[Fillmoe]

this nigga is the king of ad libs!

[atxrocker]

Warlocks
Tommy Tee
Atmosphere
Brother Ali
GZA
RZA
Josh Martinez
Swollen Members
Abstract Rude
Moka Only
Sleep
OutKast
Goodie Mob
Jim Crow
Youngbloodz
El-P
Aesop Rock
Rob Sonic
Nas
Cunninglynguists
Mos Def
Onry Ozzborn
The Chicarones
Sage Francis
Soul Position
Grouch
Madlib
Non Prophets
Vakill
MF Doom
Slug
Lateef
Do or Die
Sole
Eyedea
Mc Paul Barman
Supernatural
Juice
Mr. Dibbs
Cage
Dose One
Unknown Prophets
Blueprint
Visionaries
Lone Catalysts
7L and Esoteric
Akrobatik
Mr. Lif
Akinyele
Jaylib
Channel Live
Fatman Scoop
Haiku D'Etat
Non Phixon
ODB
Notorious BIG
Keith Murray
Mathematics
Illogic
Tonedeff
Session
Wordsworth
Immortal Technique
PackFM

And that's not including any Cali dudes I listen to. There are too many.


replace Akinyele with aceyalone and i have no prob with your list, pretty fucking solid.

btw, i dig akinelye, but the absence of aceyalone is very obvious.

and youngbloodz? :wtf

[mavs>spurs2]

I think youngbloodz was thrown in as a "who doesnt belong" just to see if we were paying attention :lol

[atxrocker]

also, fuck lil wayne. only song by that nigga that come hard is hit em up. all his other shit is weak.

[atxrocker]

I think youngbloodz was thrown in as a "who doesnt belong" just to see if we were paying attention :lol


seriously, i hope so. a weird pick from somebody into real hip hop.

[TheSanityAnnex]

replace Akinyele with aceyalone and i have no prob with your list, pretty fucking solid.

btw, i dig akinelye, but the absence of aceyalone is very obvious.

and youngbloodz? :wtf
This was made during the "music for drones" discussion with TxJudson. I had to leave off all the Cali rappers I listened to in order to make a point. The list could be doubled if I were to include all the Cali dudes. And the Youngbloodz first album, "Against da Grain", was tight. Very Outkast'ish.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Actually, now that I think about it, I only really liked 85 South and the U-Way remix off that album.

[TxJudsonCocketTx]

Chamillionaire >>> your favorite rapper

[CuckingFunt]

Warlocks
Tommy Tee
Atmosphere
Brother Ali
GZA
RZA
Josh Martinez
Swollen Members
Abstract Rude
Moka Only
Sleep
OutKast
Goodie Mob
Jim Crow
Youngbloodz
El-P
Aesop Rock
Rob Sonic
Nas
Cunninglynguists
Mos Def
Onry Ozzborn
The Chicarones
Sage Francis
Soul Position
Grouch
Madlib
Non Prophets
Vakill
MF Doom
Slug
Lateef
Do or Die
Sole
Eyedea
Mc Paul Barman
Supernatural
Juice
Mr. Dibbs
Cage
Dose One
Unknown Prophets
Blueprint
Visionaries
Lone Catalysts
7L and Esoteric
Akrobatik
Mr. Lif
Akinyele
Jaylib
Channel Live
Fatman Scoop
Haiku D'Etat
Non Phixon
ODB
Notorious BIG
Keith Murray
Mathematics
Illogic
Tonedeff
Session
Wordsworth
Immortal Technique
PackFM

And that's not including any Cali dudes I listen to. There are too many.Nice list. I'd add Common and Talib Kweli.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What about http://www-tech.mit.edu/V123/N22/j5dmitryDONE.jpg?
:dramaquee


And that's not including any Cali dudes I listen to. There are too many.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Nice list. I'd add Common and Talib Kweli.I would as well. It was off the top of my head list during an argument so of course I missed more than a few.

[Fillmoe]

:dramaquee


gay z is not from cali.....

[TheSanityAnnex]

gay z is not from cali.....
That's Chali Tuna.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I would add to the list Chali2na, Jay, The Game, Kanye.

[Fillmoe]

That's Chali Tuna.


looks like a young jay

[Fillmoe]

how u gonna have eyedea but no murs?

[atxrocker]

Also I can't forget about Andre Nickatina.


nice pick. a yo is hella nice.

[TheSanityAnnex]

how u gonna have eyedea but no murs?
"He's from L.A. (ahh) Southern California
Fool the West coast, where everybody is somebody
And the game is fame, do everythang with a bang
And everybody wanna know what set you claim"


How many fucking times do I have to say that I didn't include anyone from Cali on that list?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Also I can't forget about Andre Nickatina.I got to watch Nickatina at a couple house parties up in Chico. That dude was crazy. Scottie, Scottie, Scottie...........

[mookie2001]

I saw sleep and old dominion play live with cannibal ox and aesop rock in austin like 4 or 5 years ago-sleep made aesop rock look like ja rule, but ive never been able to find his shit. How does one obtain sleep?

[Fillmoe]

"He's from L.A. (ahh) Southern California
Fool the West coast, where everybody is somebody
And the game is fame, do everythang with a bang
And everybody wanna know what set you claim"


How many fucking times do I have to say that I didn't include anyone from Cali on that list?


heres some more i would add on

Pharoahe Monch
Ra the Rugged Man
Jedi Mind Tricks
Dead Prez
Cormega
AZ



and Grouch is from cali you bastard!

[TheSanityAnnex]

heres some more i would add on





and Grouch is from cali you bastard!Doh!

You got that new "city of dope" album with him and ZionI?

[Fillmoe]

Doh!

You got that new "city of dope" album with him and ZionI?

yah... its okay... wasnt really diggin it

[BeerIsGood!]

Best Reggae Artist?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I saw sleep and old dominion play live with cannibal ox and aesop rock in austin like 4 or 5 years ago-sleep made aesop rock look like ja rule, but ive never been able to find his shit. How does one obtain sleep?I saw Sleep open for Atmosphere a few years back. He is one fast rapping motherfucker. I picked up a Sleep solo album while I was there. It's not a bad album, but it's not one I play much. Send me a pm and remind me, and if I have time, I'll upload the whole thing and post it here for you to download.

One album I know you can get that has Sleep in it is a group that goes by "The Chicharones" The album is called "love at first bite". It's Sleep and Josh Martinez, and if you've never heard Josh Martinez, you are in for a treat. The two of them combine for some amazing songs. I'd recommend picking it up. In fact, I believe Itunes is now carrying it. Yup, just checked. Listen to the second song for an idea of what you are getting.

Pick up Josh Martinez's two albums as well. "Buck Up Princess" and "Midriff Music". He is one of the most unique and talented hiphop artists I've ever heard.

[TheSanityAnnex]

yah... its okay... wasnt really diggin it

"hit em" is a fucking banger. "trigger" and "bad lands" are the only other two I really like. that album wasn't all it should have been.

[TheSanityAnnex]

3 Melancholy Gypsies!!!

[SA210]

Bone Thugs -N- Harmony

[johnpaulwall21]

Z-Ro from H-town is one of the GOAT!!!!!!!!!!! Book it

[MrChug]

Rakim is a legend.