Peanut Butter-Salmonella, Salmonella-Peanut Butter...

[Nbadan]

..hummmm....


A salmonella outbreak that has slowly grown to nearly 300 cases in 39 states since August has been linked to tainted peanut butter, federal health officials said Wednesday.

It is believed to be the first salmonella outbreak associated with peanut butter in U.S. history, said officials with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

About 20 percent of the 288 infected people have been hospitalized, but none has died, said Dr. Mike Lynch, a CDC epidemiologist.

.......

The Food and Drug Administration warned consumers not to eat certain jars of Peter Pan or Great Value peanut butter because of the risk of contamination.

The affected jars have a product code on the lid that begins with the number "2111." The affected jars are made by ConAgra in a single facility in Sylvester, Ga., the FDA said.

Great Value peanut butter made by other manufacturers is not affected, the agency said.

ConAgra said it is recalling all Peter Pan and Great Value peanut butter beginning with product code 2111.

AP News

So the list of unsafe foods includes peanut butter now too..

That's Chicken, Milk, lettuce, tomatoes, cheese, spinach, peanut butter and anything made at Taco Bell or Taco Johns for you northerners.

What's up with these unsafe food standards? Are we sacraficing safety by rushing foods to market? Wat up FDA?

[Spurminator]

Mmmmm, I love salmon.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

The latest updates (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=areyUfCNFxY)

[boutons_]

Along with the health system that promotes denying care and punishes giving care while killing 100K people through medical errors, the US food system is so fucked up that food should be treated with HazMat techniques.

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Foodborne_illness_-_Statistics/id/1398594

"Foodborne illness - Statistics

There are every year about 76 million foodborne illnesses in the United States (26,000 cases for 100,000 inhabitants), 2 million in the United Kingdom (3,400 cases for 100,000 inhabitants) and 750,000 in France (1,210 cases for 100,000 inhabitants).

Foodborne illness - In the United States

In the United States, for 76 million foodborne illnesses (26,000 cases for 100,000 inhab.):

* 325,000 were hospitalized (111 per 100,000 inhab.);
* 5,000 people died (1.7 per 100,000 inhab.).

Source:

* Food safety and foodborne illness, WHO"

The (industrial) food the doesn't make you sick with pathogenic microbes/virusus still makes you sick over your lifetime (cardio-vascular, cancer, diabetes, etc, etc), the so-called "rich country diseases".

Go ahead, right-wingers, destroy the federal govt, de-regulate everything, and "trust the market". You'll get fucked harder and faster by the corps.

[Nbadan]

These rush-to-market strategies make me feel sick about the HPV vaccine and injecting this into girls as young as 9.

[Nbadan]

Mmmmm, I love salmon.

...and I love the taste of peanut butter!

[whottt]

Fucking Bush...

[ChumpDumper]

That's Chicken, Milk, lettuce, tomatoes, cheese, spinach, peanut butterI ate all of those this week. Stangely enough, I haven't died. How does one "rush" peanut butter to market?

[xrayzebra]

Along with the health system that promotes denying care and punishes giving care while killing 100K people through medical errors, the US food system is so fucked up that food should be treated with HazMat techniques.

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Foodborne_illness_-_Statistics/id/1398594

"Foodborne illness - Statistics

There are every year about 76 million foodborne illnesses in the United States (26,000 cases for 100,000 inhabitants), 2 million in the United Kingdom (3,400 cases for 100,000 inhabitants) and 750,000 in France (1,210 cases for 100,000 inhabitants).

Foodborne illness - In the United States

In the United States, for 76 million foodborne illnesses (26,000 cases for 100,000 inhab.):

* 325,000 were hospitalized (111 per 100,000 inhab.);
* 5,000 people died (1.7 per 100,000 inhab.).

Source:

* Food safety and foodborne illness, WHO"

The (industrial) food the doesn't make you sick with pathogenic microbes/virusus still makes you sick over your lifetime (cardio-vascular, cancer, diabetes, etc, etc), the so-called "rich country diseases".

Go ahead, right-wingers, destroy the federal govt, de-regulate everything, and "trust the market". You'll get fucked harder and faster by the corps.

And boutons is just one example of a product
of our health system. They kept him alive when
he was born. Just another example of poor
decisions of the American Health System....
:toast

[johnsmith]

I ate all of those this week. Stangely enough, I haven't died. How does one "rush" peanut butter to market?


:lol :lol :lol

[johnsmith]

ssssss

[Yonivore]

I ate all of those this week. Stangely enough, I haven't died. How does one "rush" peanut butter to market?
Crunchy style.

[Yonivore]

i have a 2111 peanut butter..tastes fine to me
Keep eating...keep eating.

[Nbadan]

Keep eating...keep eating.

You your for darwinism?

:hat

[sabar]

I see the problem here.
It's Peter Pan peanut butter.

Great Value peanut butter? I'd expect salmonella with a generic brand name like that.

[Yonivore]

You your for darwinism?

:hat
Just in pimp's case. I'd like to see him get the award.

[Yonivore]

I see the problem here.
It's Peter Pan peanut butter.

Great Value peanut butter? I'd expect salmonella with a generic brand name like that.
I believe that's the WalMart brand; so, Bonus!

[exstatic]

I ate all of those this week. Stangely enough, I haven't died. How does one "rush" peanut butter to market?
In very fast trucks?
:fro

[Nbadan]

They used to 'process' vegatables and fruits before taking them to market. Today, they sell the stuff out of the back of trucks straight from the field. Washing your veggies has never been so important, but even the best hygiene won't help against some bacterial contaminations, this is why we need a FDA which the Bush administration has been gutting....

Meanwhile, the contamination continues....


MONDAY, Feb. 19 (HealthDay News) -- The drumroll for tainted food continued Monday with a nationwide recall of Oscar Mayer chicken breast strips for bacterial contamination.

.......

The chicken breast recall is the fourth food recall in a week. Fresh cantaloupe and selected jars of organic baby food were recalled late Friday, and a major recall of peanut butter was initiated late Wednesday after 300 people in 39 states were sickened.

In the case of the cantaloupes and peanut butter, the culprit was salmonella. The baby food was contaminated with Clostridium botulinum, which can cause botulism. Both are life-threatening illnesses. Dole Fresh Fruit Co. recalled roughly 6,104 cartons of imported cantaloupes from Costa Rica that were distributed to wholesalers in the eastern United States and Quebec between Feb. 5 and Feb. 8, the Associated Press reported. There were no reports of illness.

And the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned consumers late Friday not to use certain jars of Earth's Best Organic 2 Apple Peach Barley Wholesome Breakfast baby food because they may be contaminated with Clostridium botulinum,, a life-threatening illness.

The manufacturer, Hain Celestial Group of Melville, N.Y., initiated a recall on Feb. 9 of 4,072 cases of individual jars and 38,298 variety packs, the FDA said in a prepared statement. Production and distribution of the baby food has been suspended while the FDA and the company work to determine the source of the problem.

Yahoo (http://health.yahoo.com/news/172197)

[ChumpDumper]

There are fields of peanut butter?

[Nbadan]

Fields of peanuts. Remember the bad spinach? There was cow manuer in the spinach. You tell me how that happened?

[ChumpDumper]

There was a cow pasture near the field.

[ChumpDumper]

They don't process peanut butter anymore?

[Nbadan]

apparently not well enough...besides, my point is the cuts in FDA funds.

[ChumpDumper]

How much have they been cut?

[101A]

How much have they been cut?

CD. Your job would appear easy. None do it better.

I'm bettin Dan can't hang for long.

[Nbadan]

Another 5% just this year alone...


The fiscal year 2006 budget proposal released last week by President Bush would reduce funds for almost all.... FDA inspection programs, such as those that review imported foods and prescription drug manufacturing facilities abroad, USA Today reports. Under the budget proposal, the number of U.S. food safety inspections made next year would decrease by 5% from this year's estimate, the number of inspections of prescription drug manufacturing facilities abroad would decrease by 5.8% and the number of inspections of U.S. blood banks would decrease by 4.7%. Some experts have raised concerns that a reduction in FDA inspections could leave the United States more vulnerable to counterfeit prescription drugs or improperly manufactured products.

Medical News (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=20107)

[ChumpDumper]

Is that the budget that was passed?

[Nbadan]

An IOM study on the 'crisis' in the drug inspection industry....


Lack of clear regulatory authority and chronic underfunding at the Food and Drug Administration are among the problems affecting drug safety work for products already on the market, a Sept. 22 report from the Institute of Medicine said.

In particular, IOM said FDA's current organizational culture at its Center for Drug Evaluation and Research is "in crisis" and the center is underfunded.

The IOM study, The Future of Drug Safety: Promoting and Protecting the Health of the Public, is part of a drug safety initiative launched by FDA in 2005, and could have huge implications for future drug safety legislation and lead Congress to pass new drug safety reforms.

FDA official Paul J. Seligman told a conference in June that he anticipated the IOM report "will have a profound influence on future drug safety laws" (4 PLIR 748, 6/30/06 a0b2y4q5m3 ).

The FDA drug safety initiative was designed to make timely drug safety information available to the public and health care professionals and to make the agency's drug review and monitoring process more transparent.

Among other things, the IOM report concludes that there is a perception that FDA is beholden to the drug industry and that the agency panels are rife with conflicts of interest. In addition, the report says, FDA is underfunded and is working under weak regulatory authorities, which are particularly ambiguous on the enforcement front.

The report makes approximately 25 recommendations including: a six-year term for FDA commissioners; clarified authority and additional enforcement tools for the agency; labeling requirements and advertising limits for new medications; compulsory registration of clinical trial results to ease public access to drug safety information; substantial increases in funding and resources for the agency; and clarification of FDA's role in gathering and communicating additional information on marketed products' risks and benefits.

Pharmacutical and Law (http://subscript.bna.com/SAMPLES/plp.nsf/c65ed46694edd0cd85256b57005cc697/230a6faed009226f852571f700790183?OpenDocument)

[ChumpDumper]

When did we start talking about drugs?

[101A]

An IOM study on the 'crisis' in the drug inspection industry....



Pharmacutical and Law (http://subscript.bna.com/SAMPLES/plp.nsf/c65ed46694edd0cd85256b57005cc697/230a6faed009226f852571f700790183?OpenDocument)


Peanut butter = Drugs.

Who knew?

[Nbadan]

When weren't drugs a part of the problem?

[ChumpDumper]

Since there were three e coli and two salmonella outbreaks in the Clinton years when everything was apparently awesome, I'm having trouble accepting this is much more than "shit happens."

[Nbadan]

Right, and the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.

[ChumpDumper]

When weren't drugs a part of the problem?Before you ran out of food google.

[ChumpDumper]

Right, and the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.So why did all those outbreaks happen under Clinton?

[gtownspur]

Right, and the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.


You mean peanut oil? :smokin

[Nbadan]

So why did all those outbreaks happen under Clinton?

It's about numerical propensity. Sure, outbreaks happen, but the number of food and drug recalls recently sure points to a ascertainable cause and effect, at least statistically speaking.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure, outbreaks happen, but the number of food and drug recalls recently sure points to a ascertainable cause and effect, at least statistically speaking.What statistics?

[Nbadan]

What statistics?

read the news much?

It's not RS here...cut the funds and rely on more industry self-inspection and your begging for trouble. Especially at a time when we have become a net importer of food.

[ChumpDumper]

read the news much?link the statistics much?

[Nbadan]

link the statistics much?

Google yourself....

[ChumpDumper]

Google yourself....Why? You've seen them, right?

[Nbadan]

Why? You've seen them, right?

Seen what Chuck? I'm sure you've studied the scientific method, you seem educated. We could formulate hypothesis, post studies, fute and refute minor points, but I prefer to cut to the chase and conclude that cuts in FDA spending, along with beaucratic bumbling, have left our food supply in un-needed danger.

Care to post studies that refute my hypothesis?

[ChumpDumper]

Care to post studies that prove your hypothesis?


There's nothing scientific about your claim. You just saw a couple of news stories and said the outbreaks must have been caused by budget cuts you haven't even proved actually happened.

[Nbadan]

You haven't disproved it either....sure it's a 'guess', just like my guess about the missing WMD's in Iraq, the missing links to al-queda, the housing market, the value of the dollar, yada...yada...yada....and I'm still running about 90% right.

[ChumpDumper]

You haven't disproved it either....sure it's a 'guess'No quotation marks needed. It's a guess.
I'm still running about 90% right.I'm sure you have stats on that, too.

[Nbadan]

No quotation marks needed. It's a guess.I'm sure you have stats on that, too.

just count the number of dead bodies over the last two years....

:ihit

[ChumpDumper]

Did you guess that number?

[Nbadan]

Did you guess that number?

Nah, its a probability.

[ObiwanGinobili]

this all gopes back to Factory Farms.
waste products from factory farms gettign into the ground water and the soil.
Over fertilization with manure from factory farms. Which contains all of the antibiotics, and hormones they inject the cows with, plus the chemicals they clean down with.

just google FACTORY FARM and start reading.
very interesting.

[gtownspur]

this all gopes back to Factory Farms.
waste products from factory farms gettign into the ground water and the soil.
Over fertilization with manure from factory farms. Which contains all of the antibiotics, and hormones they inject the cows with, plus the chemicals they clean down with.

just google FACTORY FARM and start reading.
very interesting.


Ugh,...animal porn is not cool.

[sabar]

Food contamination is still within a standard deviation of the norm, hence, statistically speaking, there is no correlation between a 5% budget cut and the recent outbreaks.

Anyways...

Contamination doesn't fall under the FDA anyways. The FDA approves things like what chemicals you can use to preserve food and so forth. Actual food inspection and safety falls under the US Department of Agriculture and their various departments. The Food Safety Inspection Service (FSIS) handles poultry inspection for instance.

There is certainly a problem, but it is much much older than this current administration. The US has had subpar food health quality for decades.

Recent statistics (foodborne illness).
[Wikipedia, World Health Organization]

Every year there are about 76 million foodborne illnesses in the United States (26,000 cases for 100,000 inhabitants), 2 million in the United Kingdom (3,400 cases for 100,000 inhabitants) and 750,000 in France (1,210 cases for 100,000 inhabitants).

UNITED STATES
325,000 hospitalized (111 per 100,000 inhab.);
5,000 dead (1.7 per 100,000 inhab.).

FRANCE
113,000 hospitalized (24 per 100,000 inhab.);
400 dead (0.9 per 100,000 inhab.).

Salmonella is the number one killer.

Anyways salmonella is easily prevented if you prepare food like you're supposed to. A cooking temperature of 165F will kill the bacteria. Always wash fruit and vegetables before eating them raw or cooked. Never let other food come in contact with raw chicken or any meat as the bacteria easily transfer and an unusually high percentage of US chicken is contaminated with salmonella.

Of course you can't wash peanut butter or cook it at 165F (well I guess you COULD)

[ChumpDumper]

Care to post studies that refute my hypothesis?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1464845&postcount=54

[spurster]

Food has always been unsafe. In general, there is an incentive to cut corners to increase profit, but making your customers sick is not a good business strategy.

[boutons_]

"making your customers sick is not a good business strategy."

It doesn't hurt Frito-Lay, Coke, Pepsi, and all other junk/fast-food food mfrs, food oil fabricators, chemical food fabricators, etc, etc, aided and abetted by their very well funded, very sophisticated, sinister marketing depts and ad agencies. They pocket 10s of $Bs of profits from the shit they convince you to swallow.

From farm to table is a long chain, (poor) nutrition is a complex process, lots of opportunities to point fingers at others for the acts the sicken and kill food consumers, either immediately or long term.

[Nbadan]

Oh, Chumpy...


The federal agency that’s been front and center in warning the public about tainted spinach and contaminated peanut butter is conducting just half the food safety inspections it did three years ago.

The cuts by the Food and Drug Administration come despite a barrage of high-profile food recalls.

“We have a food safety crisis on the horizon,” said Michael Doyle, director of the Center for Food Safety at the University of Georgia.

Between 2003 and 2006, FDA food safety inspections dropped 47 percent, according to a database analysis of federal records by The Associated Press.

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17349427)

Told ya so...

[Nbadan]

Meanwhile, the purge continues...

FDA to announce lab closure details
More than half of the 13 field labs, which inspect food and drugs, could be shuttered


Details of the plan have not yet been revealed to employees or the public. But based on information PEER pieced together from FDA memos and briefings, Ruch said, it seems likely that six labs -- located in Atlanta, Cincinnati, Jefferson (Arkansas), Los Angeles, New York, and Seattle -- will remain open. He said the remaining seven facilities, in Denver, Detroit, Kansas City, Philadelphia, San Francisco, San Juan (Puerto Rico), and Winchester (Massachusetts), could be closed.

"The FDA plans are sort of a black box," Ruch told The Scientist. "We don't know what they're evolving toward and why they'll be a better organization for it."

The Scientist (http://www.the-scientist.com/news/home/52876)