Trade Day Thread

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I'm listening to Sirius' NBA Radio, so if anything comes across here or if anybody sees anything else, post it here, I guess.

DALLAS trades Anthony Johnson to ATLANTA for a second round draft pick (year not specifically mentioned).

[Mr. Body]

That a real trade?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

That a real trade?

That's what they said.

[50 cent]

Why would the Mavs be trying to get rid of him for a 2nd rounder? Seems odd.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Why would the Mavs be trying to get rid of him for a 2nd rounder? Seems odd.

Roster spot?

[Mr. Body]

Don't need Johnson. Salary dump, get a decent 2nd round pick in return. Nice trade.

[50 cent]

Maybe they are going to try to bring in Pippen.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Here's a thought: Does D-Wade's injury adversely affect the trade thoughts of the East's playoff contenders?

The Nets might now be not so willing to trade Kidd and Carter.

[sribb43]

i think its a salary dump and also to free up a roster spot, bc with Mbenga out mavs might be after a back up big man

[Jimcs50]

Stay tuned for my report on Spurs' blockbuster trade.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Stay tuned for my report on Spurs' blockbuster trade.

:lmao

Today, I wouldn't trust you if you said the sky was blue.

[Sportcamper]

J Kidd still available... (http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2007/0213/nba_a_kidd_412.jpg)

[Jimcs50]

:lmao

Today, I wouldn't trust you if you said the sky was blue.


Whatever do you mean?


:angel

[Solid D]

Whatever do you mean?


:angel


http://pbskids.org/lions/wolf/images/story/story4_top.jpg

"Wolf! Don't leave people. I promise there is a wolf."

[LEONARD]

trade is for a 2007 2nd rounder...

AJ never really "fit" here...

[AFBlue]

Good move for the Hawks, as Speedy has really been disappointing...

[intlspurshk]

Maybe SPURS get back speedy by trading Jackie and Beno

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Maybe SPURS get back speedy by trading Jackie and Beno

I would rather throw Jackie Butler to backup Tony than have a broken-down Speedy Claxton.

[AFBlue]

Maybe SPURS get back speedy by trading Jackie and Beno

Not likely...Speedy signed a BIG, long-term deal...one he's clearly not worthy of.

It does beg the question of whether they'll go with 4 pg's though. The Royal Ivey for a future second rounder doesn't sound half bad if the Spurs end up trading Beno....

[FromWayDowntown]

Yeah, physical problems aside, there's no way that the Spurs would be willing to take on Speedy Claxton's contract -- and that's a smart decision on their part.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Not likely...Speedy signed a BIG, long-term deal...one he's clearly not worthy of.

It does beg the question of whether they'll go with 4 pg's though. The Royal Ivey for a future second rounder doesn't sound half bad if the Spurs end up trading Beno....

i say we throw in butler also and get one of there SFs in return included with the 2nd rounder....

[mabber]

i think its a salary dump and also to free up a roster spot, bc with Mbenga out mavs might be after a back up big man

That's what I'm thinking. I think they are gonna try to get PJ Brown or Najera. Anthony Johnson wasn't going to get any playoff minutes anyway. They have JJ Barera (sp?) to use as 3rd point guard. He fits their style better than Johnson did anyway.

[AFBlue]

i say we throw in butler also and get one of there SFs in return included with the 2nd rounder....

Guarantee they don't get rid of any of their SF for anything less than a legitimate immediate contributor at PG or C. I(f you offered a second round pick for Smith/Childress/M. Williams, Knight would laugh in your face, pimp slap you, and tell you to get out of his office...

Hypothetical trade scenario (which won't happen because of ownership dispute and lack of desire to take on more large contracts):

PG Andre Miller for SF M. Williams/Childress

That's the kind of talent the Hawks can get back with ease....

[Extra Stout]

Stay tuned for my report on Spurs' blockbuster trade.
It just came through:

SAN ANTONIO SPURS trade:

FUTURE TITLE HOPES

for

PAYROLL RELIEF

[ploto]

Dallas may need room to trade one player for two.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Chad Ford's chat:



Chris (San Antonio): All of these teams wanting point guards and the Spurs not playing Beno Udrih at all. So far it doesn't look like it will happen, but do you think the Spurs will be able to find a taker?

SportsNation Chad Ford: (12:50 PM ET ) I think Indiana is interested though I'm not sure they'll pull off a deal. Seems like all the Spurs want is a little cap relief and a second round pick. Someone will probably make that deal. In fact, I wonder why the Hawks didn't try to get Udrih instead of Johnson.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

First I had heard about Indy's being interested in Beno (but I guess it's obvious with Indy's Most Wanted getting indicted)...

[angel_luv]

I hate trade day. :(

[Obstructed_View]

It just came through:

SAN ANTONIO SPURS trade:

FUTURE TITLE HOPES

for

PAYROLL RELIEF
I've never heard Beno referred to as "future title hopes" before. That's rich. :lol

[Jimcs50]

I've never heard Beno referred to as "future title hopes" before. That's rich. :lol


Where the heck did you get that pic of Eva??? That looks rough.

[baseline bum]

Chad Ford's chat:

Beautiful. As worthless as Udrih is, capspace isn't going to do a whole hell of a lot more on the floor.

[Big P]

Fred Jones for Juan Dixon? Possibly trade #2 according to Chad Ford.

[leemajors]

Fred Jones for Juan Dixon? Possibly trade #2 according to Chad Ford.

it's being reported on ESPN now.

[AFBlue]

There goes another guy I thought could help the Spurs....

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Dallas' benefits in the trade:



From ESPN.com's own Nick Silva, our cap guru: "The Hawks-Mavs trade saved Dallas 2.64M in tax for this year and 5.72M next year (2.86M salary + 2.86M tax) and they got the Hawks pick in the second round which is 37 right now and they gained a 2.64M trade exception."

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

No man has helped more franchises:

http://www.nba.com/media/hawks/Billy_Knight-Headshot-200.jpg

[AFBlue]

No man has helped more franchises:

http://www.nba.com/media/hawks/Billy_Knight-Headshot-200.jpg

Seriously...I hope to God Belkin wins the ownership battle, if for no other reason he'll fire Billy Knight's sorry ass (for siding with the other owners in the JJ debacle). THE WORST GM IN THE NBA!

[NBAFan]

Don't hear any chatter from SPURS FO on the wires. Beno might still get traded 50-50 chance.

[ShoogarBear]

I hate trade day. :(You need to start developing emotional attachments to good players.

[Big P]

Hoopsworld:

Spurs Making A Deal?: The Spurs continue to be a team that needs one more player, and several teams have been calling about Beno Udrih – The Spurs have turned away suitors, but it is very likely a last minute deal peaks Greg Popovich’s interest enough to cash in his “insurance policy”.

[angel_luv]

What time is the deadline? 6 pm?

Boo Bear!

[ploto]

I hate trade day. :(
Brace yourself.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Hoopsworld:

Spurs Making A Deal?: The Spurs continue to be a team that needs one more player, and several teams have been calling about Beno Udrih – The Spurs have turned away suitors, but it is very likely a last minute deal peaks Greg Popovich’s interest enough to cash in his “insurance policy”.

I refuse to believe any site that proclaims to be as good as Hoopsworld believes they are that can't spell Pop's name right.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

What time is the deadline? 6 pm?

Boo Bear!

2 p.m. Central.

[angel_luv]

Brace yourself.

:(


I had a bad dream that the Raptors traded Rasho. I was so mad since he will be here so soon and I bought a game ticket especially to see him.

[AFBlue]

3 P.M. Eastern....90 minutes from now!

[angel_luv]

2 p.m. Central.


Almost over then- yea! :)

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

1 p.m. Mountain.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

20:00 Greenwich Mean Time.

[AFBlue]

20:00 Greenwich Mean Time.

:lol

Had to put it in local time...

[Mr. Body]

11:00 pm in Moscow.

[Mr. Body]

3:00am tomorrow morning Bangkok.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

5 a.m. in Tokyo.

[AFBlue]

85 minutes and counting...

[AFBlue]

:lol

Somebody else make a trade for God sakes...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

10 a.m. in Honolulu.

[Duncanoypi]

4 a.m (Friday) Philippines

[Streakyshooter08]

:corn:

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

1 a.m. in Islamabad, Pakistan.

[ShoogarBear]

Stardate 34450.34805 on Yorgon.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

The worst part about that trade for the Raptors (well, for their fans) is that Sam Mitchell might still keep his job.

[angel_luv]

The worst part about that trade for the Raptors (well, for their fans) is that Sam Mitchell might still keep his job.


Good. I like Coach Mitchell. :)

[ShoogarBear]

Boo Bear!http://www.retrocrush.com/100monsters/booberry.gif

[AFBlue]

The worst part about that trade for the Raptors (well, for their fans) is that Sam Mitchell might still keep his job.

The best part about Billy Knight making his deal is that he'll probably lose his job. Honestly, why they didn't go after Mike Bibby or Andre Miller is beyond me...well not really, I know the ownership situation but Jesus. I could run the damn Hawks better than Billy Knight and I'm 16 (not really)....

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Good. I like Coach Mitchell. :)


You need to start developing emotional attachments to good players.

That should probably extended to good coaches, too.

[angel_luv]

:lol @ the time zones...

So this will all be over 9pm Slovenia time. :)

[angel_luv]

That should probably extended to good coaches, too.


Boo Blaze!

I stand by all my favorites. :)

[Despot]

little off topic, but how many picks do we have in the draft this year? And what kind of pick could we get for Butler?

[Solid D]

Stardate 34450.34805 on Yorgon.

Yorgon? :lol As in "Your Gone" on Trading Day?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

1:45 a.m. in New Delhi.

[lessthannick11]

"Quote:
Originally Posted by angel_luv
I hate trade day.


You need to start developing emotional attachments to good players."




beat me to that line
true though

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

We need a trade badly or this thread's going to further derail itself.

7 a.m. in Sydney.

[Marklar MM]

little off topic, but how many picks do we have in the draft this year? And what kind of pick could we get for Butler?

Don't know, but the Pistons have 2 firsts and 2 seconds. =D

[spursincharge]

so i just read on RealGM.com that the Bibby to Cavs deal hit a snag because of leaks.

[AFBlue]

little off topic, but how many picks do we have in the draft this year? And what kind of pick could we get for Butler?

The Spurs' own first rounder, Milwakee's second rounder (late 30's overall, the Spurs own second rounder (likely in 50's), and possibly the Bulls second rounder if they finish with a top nine record (likely in 50's)...

Someone check me on that...seems right though.

[ploto]

The worst part about that trade for the Raptors (well, for their fans) is that Sam Mitchell might still keep his job.
Sam is without a doubt the coach of the year in the East. He probably won't win the award because of Sloane and Van Gundy, but he has shown what he can do when he has decent players with the right character. He also helped put this team together- having played with Rasho and coached TJ Ford.

What I can't wait for is when Bryan wins the Executive of the Year Award- after people blasted his trading for Rasho and TJ and not firing Sam. :D

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Sam is without a doubt the coach of the year in the East. He probably won't win the award because of Sloane and Van Gundy, but he has shown what he can do when he has decent players with the right character. He also helped put this team together- having played with Rasho and coached TJ Ford.

What I can't wait for is when Bryan wins the Executive of the Year Award- after people blasted his trading for Rasho and TJ and not firing Sam. :D

The reason I think it might hurt the Raps is it's gonna be a lot harder for Colangelo to bring in Marc Iavaroni.

[ploto]

The reason I think it might hurt the Raps is it's gonna be a lot harder for Colangelo to bring in Marc Iavaroni.
How does this particular trade do that?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

How does this particular trade do that?

Mainly because it doesn't hurt the Raptors, but essentially, it's been that Sam's done more than enough to realistically keep his job and Fred Jones was essentially dead weight with Calderon stepping up.

[angel_luv]

57 minutes left.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Boy this is a big ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz. Are we going to see anything

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Boy this is a big ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz. Are we going to see anything

You mean other than learning about the world's time zones?

[baseline bum]

Don't we usually see everything a couple of hours after the deadline, when all the paperwork has been approved by the league office?

[angel_luv]

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

:)

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Don't we usually see everything a couple of hours after the deadline, when all the paperwork has been approved by the league office?

Yes.

[Drive Like Jehu]

Boy this is a big ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz. Are we going to see anything

Everything happens at the last minute on trade day. Of course nothing may happen, but we won't know until after 2 pm CST.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

:)

Actually, Manu decides what time it is.

[alamo50]

Fred Jones for Juan Dixon? Possibly trade #2 according to Chad Ford.


I always love it when a guy gets cutt lose from a no playing situation (when is anybody gonna free Dan Gadzuric in Milwaukee).
Juan Dixon has a lot of skillz that were getting no recognition in Portland because of the newly draftees.

I knew he was gonna be traded when I saw he didn't play last night.
Happy for Juan and my fantasy squad!!!

:toast


P.S.
It's 8:10PM over here in Holland!

[angel_luv]

Actually, Manu decides what time it is.


:lol

[lefty]

Raptors : very good move ; they have 2 talented PG and they have added an excellent combo guard (Dix) ; Colangelo is good

Mavs : bad bad move ; Very bad move...
Unless they are making some room for Pip????????????????????

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Mavs : bad bad move ; Very bad move...
Unless they are making some room for Pip????????????????????

How? They gained cap relief, a mid-30s draft pick and a roster spot.

[Marklar MM]

Mavs : bad bad move ; Very bad move...
Unless they are making some room for Pip????????????????????


Free up a roster spot, save about 8 million dollars in tax over the next couple years, and get a draft pick in the 35 range or so.

[Marklar MM]

JB..grrrrr

[MoSpur]

I won't expect to here anything until like another 30 minutes. Not only that as someone mentioned earlier, some moves may not be reported until after the deadline because of all the paperwork.

[mabber]

How? They gained cap relief, a mid-30s draft pick and a roster spot.

Cuz Lefty is either clueless and/or just wants to dis the Mavs. :rolleyes

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

JB..grrrrr

Nah, the more people realize what an idiot lefty is, the better.

April 2.

[lefty]

I don't know ; AJ is one of the best backup PG's in the league ; sure, they still have Harris, but AJ has much more playoff experience.

And Johny, u are an asshole

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Cuz Lefty is either clueless and/or just wants to dis the Mavs. :rolleyes

Ooh, ooh, ooh...pick me, pick me, pick me! I know the answer!

It's "A"!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I don't know ; AJ is one of the best backup PG's in the league ; sure, they still have Harris, but AJ has much more playoff experience.

And Johny, u are an asshole

I may be an asshole, but I'm an asshole that recognizes the benefits of $8M in cap relief, a mid-30s draft pick and a roster spot.

[lefty]

Cuz Lefty is either clueless and/or just wants to dis the Mavs. :rolleyes

Clueless?? yeah, well, ur Dallas Chokers will miss his playoff experience later

[lefty]

I may be an asshole, but I'm an asshole that recognizes the benefits of $8M in cap relief, a mid-30s draft pick and a roster spot.

Wow, I'm impressed :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I don't know ; AJ is one of the best backup PG's in the league ; sure, they still have Harris, but AJ has much more playoff experience.



Since the beginning of 2007, AJ has played double-digit minutes THREE times and had NINE DNPs.

The Mavs traded that for $8M in cap relief, a mid-30s draft pick and a roster spot.

[mabber]

Clueless?? yeah, well, ur Dallas Chokers will miss his playoff experience later

Do players sit on the end of the bench differently during the playoffs? Does it take some playoff experience for that? :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Clueless?? yeah, well, ur Dallas Chokers will miss his playoff experience later

So apparently, Option B would have been accepted, too.

Even with the roster spot (which I would guess would be for a big), there's still Barea as your third PG along with the experience Terry and Harris have now...the third PG spot is not really the Mavs biggest problem, lefty.

[mabber]

So apparently, Option B would have been accepted, too.

Even with the roster spot (which I would guess would be for a big), there's still Barea as your third PG along with the experience Terry and Harris have now...the third PG spot is not really the Mavs biggest problem, lefty.

This is why Lefty is clueless, he doesn't realize that AJ is the Mavs 3rd PG and rarely plays. Is that being clueless or ignorant?

[lefty]

Yeah, I admit the fact that this transaction saves 8 millions for summer (and they get a solid draft pick), and I know AJ hasn't played much and that the Mavs have the best record right now.
However, if Harris has some difficulties in the playoffs, Avery won't hesitate to use Anthony Johnson ; the guy is a pro ; he'll be ready

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Yeah, I admit the fact that this transaction saves 8 millions for summer (and they get a solid draft pick), and I know AJ hasn't played much and that the Mavs have the best record right now.
However, if Harris has some difficulties in the playoffs, Avery won't hesitate to use Anthony Johnson ; the guy is a pro ; he'll be ready

Of course he'll be ready, he'll be watching on TV in Atlanta.

[lefty]

This is why Lefty is clueless, he doesn't realize that AJ is the Mavs 3rd PG and rarely plays. Is that being clueless or ignorant?

Well, Devin Harris is a choker..big time

[lefty]

Of course he'll be ready, he'll be watching on TV in Atlanta.
:depressed :depressed :depressed

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Yeah, I admit the fact that you're right, JB.

Fixed that for you.

[lefty]

Fixed that for you.


:sleep :sleep

[AFBlue]

Seriously do you guys have anything value added....

Like more time zones???? :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Seriously do you guys have anything value added....

Like more time zones???? :lol

It's not like lefty is giving me much to work with.

[lefty]

It's not like lefty is giving me much to work with.

Who can? u are hopeless

[spursreport]

If the Spurs dont do something in the next half hour, we are seriously fucked! Make a move you sons of bitches!! :madrun :madrun :madrun

[Holt's Cat]

It just came through:

SAN ANTONIO SPURS trade:

FUTURE TITLE HOPES

for

PAYROLL RELIEF


Bag of litter too? Please. I'm dying here.

[KEDA]

Juan Dixon goes to Toronto for Fred Jones according to NBATV

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

the trade deadline day is always hyped up and nothing ends up happening

[AFBlue]

25 minutes....

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

well, anything decent i meant

[AFBlue]

Juan Dixon goes to Toronto for Fred Jones according to NBATV

Old news KEDA....sorry.

I need something fresh...

[LEONARD]

Clueless?? yeah, well, ur Dallas Chokers will miss his playoff experience later


Well, Devin Harris is a choker..big time

You'd think that Spurs fans more than any other would know what Devin Harris can do after what he did the Spurs in the playoffs last year...he turned the series around in game 2 and was great in 4 of 7 games...

[AFBlue]

well, anything decent i meant

tough to beat the AI deal that happened a few weeks ago and the J-Kidd/VC rumors were far from possibles. It looks like Bibby may be the only "star" player on the move...

One question....what does Toronto do if Magliore doesn't get traded? Is he cut loose?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Juan Dixon goes to Toronto for Fred Jones according to NBATV

To the SpursTalk community, I have responded to KEDA via text message. :lol

[Marklar MM]

Rasho for Beno?

[AFBlue]

You'd think that Spurs fans more than any other would know what Devin Harris can do after what he did the Spurs in the playoffs last year...he turned the series around in game 2 and was great in 4 of 7 games...

Leo, give me the low down on him this year. Has Harris performed up to expectations? Is the AJ move just for salary, or do you think the move was made with confidence that Harris could get it done down the stretch?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Rasho for Beno?

I think Angel's head would explode.

[lefty]

You'd think that Spurs fans more than any other would know what Devin Harris can do after what he did the Spurs in the playoffs last year...he turned the series around in game 2 and was great in 4 of 7 games...

Against the Spurs, he just used his youth and quickness, but he didn't do much in the Finals :lol :lol

[Marklar MM]

I think Angel's head would explode.

Nah. She would have multiple orgasms at the thought of being reunited with Rasho.

[KEDA]

Rasho got traded to the Antarctica Ice Cubes for 2 penguins and a box of used kitty litter?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

but he didn't do much in the Finals :lol :lol

Neither did the Spurs.

[AFBlue]

Rasho got traded to the Antarctica Ice Cubes for 2 penguins and a box of used kitty litter?

Now that's fresh... :lol

[lefty]

Neither did the Spurs.

???? we didn't do much in the Finals????

[AFBlue]

Neither did the Spurs.

Ouch....good one :lol

[lefty]

Ouch....good one :lol

Read again...I said IN THE FINALS
:donkey

[AFBlue]

???? we didn't do much in the Finals????

That's what he's saying righty, because the Spurs didn't make it there...

And Harris was a big reason for that...

Although I'll say this, I don't think the Spurs had enough tape on this guy to understand his game and isolate his weaknesses. This time around, I think the Spurs would be ready for him if given the opportunity...

[LEONARD]

Against the Spurs, he just used his youth and quickness, but he didn't do much in the Finals :lol :lol

He "just" used his youth and quickness? WTF does that mean?

The whole team choked in the finals. Devin was hit or miss, but his "choking" definitely wasn't the reason the Mavs fell apart... :lol

You're not doing too well with your points today, lefty...even Spurs fans are ripping on you :lol

[LEONARD]

???? we didn't do much in the Finals????


Read again...I said IN THE FINALS
:donkey

as sharp as a bag of wet noodles...

[AFBlue]

He "just" used his youth and quickness? WTF does that mean?

The whole team choked in the finals. Devin was hit or miss, but his "choking" definitely wasn't the reason the Mavs fell apart... :lol

You're not doing too well with your points today, lefty...even Spurs fans are ripping on you :lol

You gonna answer me Leo? How's he doing this year?

[lefty]

He "just" used his youth and quickness? WTF does that mean?

The whole team choked in the finals. Devin was hit or miss, but his "choking" definitely wasn't the reason the Mavs fell apart... :lol

You're not doing too well with your points today, lefty...even Spurs fans are ripping on you :lol

U just said it ; the whole team choked ; that's why they need experience. Especially from a PG ; AJ2 is a leader

And I really don't care if Spurs fan are ripping on me
:dramaquee

[lefty]

as sharp as a bag of wet noodles...


:sleep :sleep

[ploto]

Last year no one would have even known during the day about the Barry trade if Rick hadn't talked about it on his radio show. Usually, the news is what trades were turned down.

[LEONARD]

You gonna answer me Leo? How's he doing this year?

When did you ask me??

I have no problem with Harris' game this season...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Last year no one would have even known during the day about the Barry trade if Rick hadn't talked about it on his radio show. Usually, the news is what trades were turned down.

Which is why I'm not changing stations until I head off to work.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Sounds like James might be going to Houston for Sura and a 1st rd pick

[AFBlue]

When did you ask me??

I have no problem with Harris' game this season...

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[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Sounds like James might be going to Houston for Sura and a 1st rd pick

Sounds like it could be legit.. where'd you read that?

[LEONARD]

U just said it ; the whole team choked ; that's why they need experience. Especially from a PG ; AJ2 is a leader

And I really don't care if Spurs fan are ripping on me
:dramaquee

AJ2 never fit in on this team and never did anything on the court...I can't speak to his lockerroom presence...

They got experience last year...

You keep arguing that this was a dumb move but everybody and their dog is disagreeing with you...


:sleep :sleep

Ah, you're sleepy...that's why you're not picking up on things today? :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Sounds like James might be going to Houston for Sura and a 1st rd pick

Man, Houston scares me more and more.

[AFBlue]

Sounds like James might be going to Houston for Sura and a 1st rd pick

Damn...that's a good move for Houston. As good as Rafer can be, he's not exactly the most consistent PG in the game and Luther Head might not be ready.

DAMMIT, everyone BUT the Spurs is getting better!

[lefty]

Ah, you're sleepy...that's why you're not picking up on things today? :lol


Yeah I need my coffee :wakeup

[lefty]

4 minutes left.... :(

[angel_luv]

I think Angel's head would explode.


I want Sho to play for the Raptors. He is doing great there.

What I want to do is trade Canada the Mavericks for the Raptors so Sho will be close and Cuban and clowns will be far away.


And Beno is a keeper.

[LEONARD]

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Leo, give me the low down on him this year. Has Harris performed up to expectations? Is the AJ move just for salary, or do you think the move was made with confidence that Harris could get it done down the stretch?

Too many replies flying in... :lol

I'd say he hasn't quite been up to expectations, but he's been good enough. I think it was a money / bench slot move. Jet and DH should be plenty at PG to get them by...44-9 so far this season with AJ playing VERY little (mostly garbage time). JJ Barea is a guy they really like, so maybe he can get in a little more now...

[AFBlue]

4 minutes left.... :(

I got eight...then again that's Eastern time.... :lol

[lefty]

3....

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

:lol if it happens then it makes Houston even better but its funny that there are now only 5 decent teams in the West (Mavs/Suns/Spurs/Jazz/Rockets)

Lakers suck and r sliding, same with the Nuggets and everyone else below that is under .500

[lefty]

2...

[spursreport]

Do something you bastards. We have less then 10 minutes now ughhhhh. :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss AGAIN FUCKING MAKE A TRADE HAPPEN AND GET A GODDAMN YOUNG WING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lefty]

1....

[AFBlue]

Rumor is that the James deal would likely include a player like Steve Novak going with Sura's contract in the deal to make the salaries match. Maybe he'll get off the pine now...

[AFBlue]

6...

[lefty]

Game Over

[LEONARD]

Game Over

You clock is wrong holmes...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

In another case of the internet imitating life: Lefty shoots his load early.

[spursreport]

ITS OVER! Spurs arent doing shit so we are done round 1! I cant believe these fucking sons of bitches didnt address the SF needs especially now that Bowen is somewhat breaking down.

[lefty]

You clock is wrong holmes...


Damn u are right

[angel_luv]

2:00 :)

[lefty]

ITS OVER! Spurs arent doing shit so we are done round 1! I cant believe these fucking sons of bitches didnt address the SF needs especially now that Bowen is somewhat breaking down.
:rolleyes

[Marklar MM]

3 minutes

[spursreport]

2:00 :)

I bet you are thrilled that the Spurs didnt do shit. This team is out round 1 now.

[AFBlue]

I got three minutes by my count...

[spursreport]

:rolleyes

The truth hurts doesnt it? We really needed a wing who could rebound but couldnt get it.

[angel_luv]

It is past two o'clock by my time.

[Mr. Body]

The truth hurts doesnt it? We really needed a wing who could rebound but couldnt get it.

No pieces for it. You'll all be happy when we manage to draft Jeff Green this summer.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

The deadline is 2, but some trades might not hit the press until hours later

[Marklar MM]

Your time is WRONG. :)

[anonymous source]

1 Minutes And Spurs Didn't Do A Damn Thing. Same O Same O!

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

The Spurs should just do a DJ for Beno trade to appease the crowd :lol

[AFBlue]

No pieces for it. You'll all be happy when we manage to draft Jeff Green this summer.

God if only....

[mabber]

Too many replies flying in... :lol

I'd say he hasn't quite been up to expectations, but he's been good enough. I think it was a money / bench slot move. Jet and DH should be plenty at PG to get them by...44-9 so far this season with AJ playing VERY little (mostly garbage time). JJ Barea is a guy they really like, so maybe he can get in a little more now...

They turned down Mike Bibby for Harris and Croshere (expiring contract) from the Kings so the Mavs must think that Harris is still progressing.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Sura and Bonzi to Chicago for Sweetney and Duhon

read that on another board, but no confirmation

[AFBlue]

They turned down Mike Bibby for Harris and Croshere (expiring contract) from the Kings so the Mavs must think that Harris is still progressing.

Or that Mike Bibby costs too much money and would be a "chemistry" problem.

[lefty]

http://www.gamingsteve.com/archives/images/game_over.gif

[spursreport]

:depressed :depressed It was fun while it lasted. Thanks for a great season spurs.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

another boring deadline passes

[Budkin]

Our play has picked up as of late but unless Ely becomes some amazing rebounder I think we're out in the second round this year. You just can't win in this league without rebounding and D.

[AFBlue]

Probably no big deal in the works, but several smaller deals will come to the forefront in the next couple hours as they pass through the league for approval.

[ArgSpursFan]

hey,at least we traded the old Elson for the new Elson
+ the old manu(from 2005)just got back yestarday..

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Rick Kamla says D-Wade is done for the season.

[steppy]

Call me crazy but I'm kind of happy a trade wasn't done. Pop made a statment and stuck to it. It could help with their confidence since he's showing faith in his team. There have been less worthy champions in the past.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Rick Kamla says D-Wade is done for the season.

I read that somewhere else and thought it was BS

[angel_luv]

I read that somewhere else and thought it was BS


What happened to Wade???

[Marklar MM]

Rick Kamla says D-Wade is done for the season.

Detroit vs. Who in the Finals.

[Marklar MM]

What happened to Wade???

He dislocated his shoulder yesterday. He must have torn something or something.

[AFBlue]

Who is Rick Kamla?

[AFBlue]

I read that somewhere else and thought it was BS

What haven't you read today that you thought was BS? :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Who is Rick Kamla?

http://www.nba.com/nba_tv/rick_kamla_bio.html

Co-host of "Inside The Paint" with Rick Barry on Sirius NBA Radio.

[angel_luv]

Ouch- poor Wade.

[batman2883]

d wade is a wuss man being wheeled off in a wheelchair for a dislocated shoulder

[spursreport]

Detroit* vs. Who in the Finals.

Fixed

[Marklar MM]

Detroit* vs. Who in the Finals.


Fixed


Depending how the west plays out, I guarantee it will be

Detroit* vs Who*

[spursreport]

Depending how the west plays out, I guarantee it will be

Detroit* vs Who*

The fact that you needed an injury like this to win the East shouldnt make you feel all that special. It isnt an official season ending injury yet but I know fans are praying that it is which makes me sick to my stomach!

[Vinnie_Johnson]

The fact that you needed an injury like this to win the East shouldnt make you feel all that special. It isnt an official season ending injury yet but I know fans are praying that it is which makes me sick to my stomach!

The Pistons didn't need this to win the East. The Pistons are still the best in the east. Send Wade out there we don't care.

[lefty]

Wade is out for 1 month and and a half ; interesting to see how his teamamtes can keep their playoffs chances intact

[thispego]

d wade is a wuss man being wheeled off in a wheelchair for a dislocated shoulder
batman, come now
have you ever dislocated your shoulder? im talkin about thre kind of dislocation where it swells up right away so that you appear to have two shoulders, one on top of the other? when that happens ANY movement will magnify the already excruciating pain. the feeling is indescribable

[spursreport]

The Pistons didn't need this to win the East. The Pistons are still the best in the east. Send Wade out there we don't care.

You said that shit last year and got your asses beat in a non-dramatic 6 game series. Wade had his way with the Pistons especially last year so dont give me "it wouldnt of mattered against the Pistons" bullshit

[angel_luv]

we don't want cuban

Fine.... him I'll ship up the Riverwalk. :lol

[sabar]

Have you heard of the legend where the mav fan broke both shoulders at age 4 and walked home without crying?

[AFBlue]

From Sac Bee just a few minutes ago confirming non-move of Bibby...

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/127443.html


Kings don't make move as trade deadline passes
By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 12:33 pm PST Thursday, February 22, 2007

Mike Bibby will remain with the Kings after the NBA trade deadline came and went without Sacramento making a move.

The NBA trade deadline came and went Thursday, and the Kings' roster looked the same after noon PST as it did before it.

While the efforts were many to move Mike Bibby for a package that could help the Kings going into the future, the point guard will, according to a team official, remain with the team.

The Cleveland Cavaliers continued a push to land Bibby early Thursday morning but was unable to come to a compromise. No other Kings trades took place either.

The Kings weren't alone in their inactivity at the trade deadline. Just a pair of minor trades took place Thursday morning, with Portland trading Juan Dixon to Toronto for Fred Jones in a swap of guards, and the Dallas Mavericks shipping veteran reserve guard Anthony Johnson to Atlanta for a second-round draft pick.

or Shareef, who had been in the rumor mill....

[mrose31]

Real boring trade deadline.


:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep

[AFBlue]

Real boring trade deadline.


:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep

Yeah I didn't expect any blockbusters, but I was hoping for some movement by the Spurs FO....

[SilverPlayer]

worst trade deadline in recent history....And here I thought this was going to be one of the busier ones.

[AFBlue]

According to the St. Paul Pioneer, James is still w/ T-Wolves...

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/breaking_news/16759796.htm


Timberwolves stand pat
The Timberwolves didn't make any trades today as the NBA's deadline passed at 2 p.m., so they will have to look within their current group to resolve their woes.

No magic solution was announced in the form of a trade. And, realistically, that might have been too much to ask. So Mike James is still here, along with Marko Jaric, Troy Hudson and the rest of the team's guards. The Wolves had too many, and now they still do.

Coach Randy Wittman said after Thursday's practice that he wanted his players to play the right way. It's an old Larry Brown expression that became popular when he was in Detroit. And now Wittman knows exactly which names to call upon moving forward with the final 28 regular-season games.

Wednesday night's 100-95 loss to the Charlotte Bobcats at home featured Minnesota's biggest blown lead of the season: 17 points. The Wolves are 25-29.

—Rick Alonzo

[AFBlue]

Sonics idle too...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sonics/2003584066_websonics22.html


Sonics pass on NBA trade deadline

By Seattle Times staff Seattle Times staffattle Times staff


Unlike last year, today's NBA tradeline passed without any moves being made by the Sonics.

At last year's trade deadline, the Sonics were part of four-team trade that gave them Bryon Russell and Earl Watson, as well as Mike Wilks.

No other teams had reported trades as of mid-day.

The Sonics are 21-32 and last place in the Northwest Division of the Western Conference. They are 14 games behind first-place Utah (35-18).

[Mr. Body]

There was no reason for any teams to make changes. No one could convince themselves to do it, not even the middling teams.

[AFBlue]

Confirmation of no-deals for Kidd and Carter, but interesting to see who reportedly offered what...

http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMjgmZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTcwODE3NzcmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2


Trade deadline ends, Nets keep Kidd and Carter

Thursday, February 22, 2007

By AL IANNAZZONE
STAFF WRITER

EAST RUTHERFORD — The Nets’ All-Star backcourt will remain intact for at least the rest of this season.

Jason Kidd and Vince Carter remained in New Jersey after the NBA trade deadline passed at 3 p.m. Thursday.

There was plenty of trade talk and rumors about the two players, but in the end Nets’ management didn’t find a deal that would help them immediately or in the future.

Kidd was linked to teams such as the Lakers, Suns, Warriors and Clippers. Carter received interest from numerous teams, including the Knicks.

The Nets were said to be considering a deal that would send Kidd back to Phoenix in a package that included Kurt Thomas, Raja Bell, Leandro Barbosa and a draft pick belonging to the Atlanta Hawks.

The Lakers wanted Kidd badly to team up with Kobe Bryant. But Los Angeles never sweetened the offer of Jordan Farmar, Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Aaron McKie and a couple of picks. The Nets wanted second-year center Andrew Bynum, but he was deemed untouchable.

The Knicks were offering a package for Carter that included Channing Frye, Malik Rose and Jamal Crawford.

Even though the Nets decided to stand pat with Kidd and Carter, either one — or both — could be moved after the season.


Now that the deadline has passed, however, the Nets can focus on making a playoff push. They have 27 games left and are two behind Miami for the eighth seed in the East.

Of greater concern now is the health of Kidd. He has been playing with a cracked rib for an unspecified time and may not play in Friday’s game against the Kings. Coach Lawrence Frank said Kidd was “hurting” Thursday and listed him as questionable for Friday. Kidd was unavailable for comment.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

You said that shit last year and got your asses beat in a non-dramatic 6 game series. Wade had his way with the Pistons especially last year so dont give me "it wouldnt of mattered against the Pistons" bullshit

I just did last year everything fell right for the Heat. The Pistons were spent and Sheed was banged up but whatever they beat us. You talk alot of shit for a fan of a team that Dallas beat last year why are you guys any better?

[AFBlue]

Cavs unable to pull off Bibby deal, or deal for any PG for that matter....

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/16759872.htm


No trade for Cavaliers
Attempts to land Bibby fail
By Brian Windhorst
Beacon Journal sportswriter
Despite two days of heavy negotiations, the Cavaliers were unable to complete a trade before 3 p.m. today, the deadline for trades in the NBA.

The team pursed a hand full of options to land Sacramento Kings point guard Mike Bibby but ultimately failed to get a third team involved.

The Cavs had serious talks with three or four trade partners in an attempt to land the pieces to acquire Bibby but were unable to pull it off.

See Ohio.com and the Akron Beacon Journal for more details tomorrow.

[AFBlue]

As part of the trade, Jones has agreed not to exercise the player option year of his contract, meaning his current deal will expire at the end of the 2007-08 season.

Found this nugget in an article (will post link below) that states Jones has agreed to cut his contract short one year, basically making this trade a wash contractually....

http://www.salem-news.com/sports/february222007/blazerstrade_022227.php

[AFBlue]

No deal for Bulls players either....looks like the only two to go down were Dixon-Jones and Johnson-pick....

SUCKS!

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/story.asp?id=284073


Bulls' bosses stand pat as NBA deadline passes
By Mike McGraw
Daily Herald Sports Writer
Posted Thursday, February 22, 2007


CLEVELAND _ The Bulls couldn’t get a deal done before the NBA’s trade deadline passed at 2 p.m. Thursday. They will carry the same undersized roster they’ve had all season into tonight’s game against the Cleveland Cavaliers at Quicken Loans Arena.

According to a league source, Bulls general manager John Paxson worked the phones hard all week trying to acquire any kind of post scorer.

Most of the attention has been focused on Memphis 7-footer Pau Gasol, who asked to be traded last month. But the Bulls also had interest in players such as Sacramento’s Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Houston guard Bonzi Wells and Washington’s Etan Thomas.

The lack of activity is a disappointment for the Bulls, because they had more than $13 million in expiring contracts to peddle between P.J. Brown, Michael Sweetney, Malik Allen and Andre Barrett. Since those players may not be back next season, the Bulls will lose some of their payroll flexibility.

Paxson refused to part with any players from the Bulls’ young nucleus, specifically Ben Gordon, Luol Deng or Kirk Hinrich. It’s possible the Bulls and Grizzlies could revisit a Gasol trade this summer.

Two minor trades were announced prior to the deadline. Toronto sent Fred Jones to Portland for Juan Dixon in an exchange of undersized shooting guards. Atlanta acquired point guard Anthony Johnson from Dallas for a second-round pick.

Cleveland was rumored to be chasing Sacramento guard Mike Bibby in a trade that would reportedly send power forward Drew Gooden to the Kings. But that deal hadn’t happened, either, by 2 p.m. and it appeared the Cavs’ personnel will be unchanged at tonight’s game against the Bulls.

Mike McGraw will have more on Bulls and reports from the game in Friday’s Daily Herald and later at dailyherald.com.

[AFBlue]

No word yet confirming no moves by Spurs...still optomistic (not really)

[Streakyshooter08]

:pctoss

[AFBlue]

ONE MORE DEAL.....not exactly awe-inspiring though....

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660197903,00.html


Jazz make trade for Henderson

But team expected to waive veteran big man

By Tim Buckley
Deseret Morning News
The Utah Jazz made only one minor deal before Thursday's NBA trade deadline, acquiring veteran big man Alan Henderson from Philadelphia in exchange for a swap of second-round draft picks, and cash consideration going from Philadelphia to Utah.
The move, however, is not expected to impact the Jazz's current 14-man roster. That is because Utah is expected to waive Henderson, who has played 34 games and averaged 3.5 points in a mostly reserve role for the Sixers this season.
The trade will lead to the Jazz having a better second-round pick, though details on the second-round picks involved were not immediately available.
Jazz basketball operations senior vice president Kevin O'Connor said he was not tempted enough to pull the trigger on any other deals.
"I felt like if we could have improved our team we would have tired to," O'Connor said. "But we didn't think we could."
The Jazz are idle until playing Friday night at Denver.

[AFBlue]

Confirmed by LA Times...no Maggette :bang

No moves for either LA team...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakerep23feb23,0,682899.story?coll=la-home-sports


Lakers decide to stand pat
Clippers also opt to make their run for a playoff spot without dealing for another player.
By Mike Bresnahan and Jason Reid, Times Staff Writers
1:18 PM PST, February 22, 2007


No deal
The noon trade deadline came and went, and the Lakers stayed the way they were.

Jason Kidd went to practice Thursday morning as a member of the New Jersey Nets, and the Lakers assembled, fully intact, a few hours later for practice at their El Segundo training facility.

The Lakers had been trying to make something work for Kidd, but it was difficult with Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom and, obviously, Kobe Bryant designated as untouchables.

As expected, the Clippers also made no moves.

General Manager Elgin Baylor spoke with many teams about potential trades before the deadline, but nothing proposed would have significantly helped the Clippers in their bid to earn a Western Conference playoff berth, team sources said.

The Clippers (25-29) have lost four in a row and are tied for ninth place in the conference with the Minnesota Timberwolves, a half a game behind the Golden State Warriors for the final playoff spot.

The Clippers play host to the Warriors on Saturday at Staples Center.

Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak did not attend Wednesday's home game against Portland, preferring to stay in El Segundo to work the phones.

His Wednesday night premonition that a trade was "very unlikely" turned out to be accurate, and by late Thursday morning, the Lakers had only faint hopes for a late-breaking deal.

It all became official when morning turned into afternoon.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

jesus...

[Mr. Body]

Some of those proposed deals were flat silly. Lakers wanted Kidd for free and Chicago keeps wanting Gasol practically for free, as well.

If I'm New Jersey, I might have made a mistake not to take those packages for Kidd (from Phoenix) and for Carter (from New York). There were some nice pieces in there.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Any confirmation on Memphis? I want to see if they were really after Atkins.

[AFBlue]

Any confirmation on Memphis? I want to see if they were really after Atkins.

No confirmation as of yet...

[AFBlue]

From Hoopsworld, so trust it or not, but here were some almost-deals that are interesting...also a note on the Spurs, but still no official word (I'm not sold just yet...)

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_20944.shtml




By Steve "BskBALL" Kyler
for HOOPSWORLD.com
Feb 22, 2007, 16:48


You Can’t Say I Didn’t Tell You…

It’s in the video on the main page – there was a lot of talk… at the end of the day, two deals got done and that’s the end of the 2007 NBA trade season.

Here are some of the things that didn’t happen but got close – according to the 45 phone calls exchanged at 3:05pm EST…

A For Effort- You gotta hand it to the Cavaliers – they worked the phones all day trying to make something out of nothing. At the end of the day they did not have the pieces to get Sacramento to move on Mike Bibby. The Kings will likely explore moving Mike this summer when there are more options, and do not be surprised to see Cleveland back in the hunt for Bibby in 4 months.

Miami Tried- Word is the HEAT were simply too late to the dance, word is they had Dorell Wright and Udonis Haslem on the table for Bibby, but that was not enough. One Miami source wondered aloud if that was offered for Bibby, what did Miami offer for Vince Carter and Jason Kidd?

The Spurs Played It Safe- At the top of the day it was said the Spurs were willing to trigger the “right deal” – several teams called about Beno Udrih, and Beno himself said last week his agent told him more than a handful of team were interested. Spurs head coach Greg Popovich said yesterday that he’d be hard pressed to move his “insurance policy”

Toronto Made A Move On Darko- The Raptors had a second deal in mind when they triggered Juan Dixon, and that was sending Morris Peterson to Orlando for Darko Milicic. The Magic passed on the deal, but word is Toronto may make another run at Darko this summer when he hits restricted free agency.

Lakers Thought They Had Him- The Lakers genuinely thought they had a deal for Jason Kidd last night, word was Jerry Buss agreed to send $3 million in cash and two future number one draft choices, including this year’s pick. At the end of the day it was not enough for New Jersey – who was steadfast that a Kidd deal had to involve Andrew Bynum. The Lakers are expected to add Scottie Pippen in the coming days and will be watching the waiver wires.

Dennis Johnson Dies During Practice- Former Celtic star and D-League coach of the Austin Toros Dennis Johnson collapsed during a practice today, and ultimately died. The cause is not yet known, and the news was shocking as the league tried to uncover all the trade moves taking place. Dennis Johnson was 52.


I also find the almost-deal for Darko interesting...and the continued future interest...

[jaespur21]

just got out of jail. what a boring trade day thanks for the info. fellas

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Sweet. The Spurs stand pat due to this winning streak giving them false hope! Love it! BTW nice move for the Mavs getting a decent pick. :elephant :elephant

[ploto]

Found this nugget in an article (will post link below) that states Jones has agreed to cut his contract short one year, basically making this trade a wash contractually....

http://www.salem-news.com/sports/february222007/blazerstrade_022227.php
Guess that means that he wanted the trade. He wasn't getting to play at all, and he's back home.



I also find the almost-deal for Darko interesting...and the continued future interest...
Chad Ford has been grumbling about Darko to Toronto for a while. They would have to move Rasho in the summer to sign Darko.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, I suppose we can hope that Atkins gets bought out now.

[AFBlue]

Well, I suppose we can hope that Atkins gets bought out now.

But the Spurs don't have a roster spot available to sign him...

[ChumpDumper]

But the Spurs don't have a roster spot available to sign him...Easy enough to waive a player.

[AFBlue]

Chad Ford has been grumbling about Darko to Toronto for a while. They would have to move Rasho in the summer to sign Darko.

Why? They won't be far enough under the cap to sign him to an offer sheet if they don't?

It's not like Rasho is averaging 35MPG and the Raps play Bosh out of position at Center for a prolonged stretch on the Court. Darko just adds to the potential depth at F/C and if I'm not mistaken, the Raps have the cap space to at least make a decent offer...

[AFBlue]

Easy enough to waive a player.

I know Chump...which one is what I was getting at? The Spurs only expiring contract is Bonner...the Spurs would have to eat the cost into next year if it was anyone else...

[ChumpDumper]

Vaughn is on a one year deal and I believe White's next year is nonguaranteed.

[Mr. Body]

I don't see them waiving anyone. White and Udrih are still valuable and they'll keep Vaughn for chemistry and for producing at least something so far. On court chemistry is at least as important as anything else.

[AFBlue]

Vaughn is on a one year deal and I believe White's next year is nonguaranteed.

Yeah, White's next year is a team option, so that is a possiblity.

I have a hard time thinking the Spurs would get rid of Vaughn, they obviously like his hustle and defense enough to jump him over Beno for the second spot...

But, I'd be all for it...

[ChumpDumper]

What value does White have?

[AFBlue]

What value does White have?

No current value, but potential future value....

He was good enough to get drafted at the top of the second round and was good enough to get picked up a second time after Rick Carlisle made "the hardest cut of his life", and if the Spurs get rid of him, I guarantee he doesn't last more than 10 days w/o a contract. I wouldn't give up on him just yet....

[Mr. Body]

What value does White have?

A little. Julius Hodge just got unceremoniously waived, so I'd say White has a grace period of a year before he reaches that point. I was thinking he'd be worth sweetening a deal for another player, but that's not likely to happen, either. He's basically Bobby Jones at this point. Who's Bobby Jones, you may ask? Exactly. The real winner? Portland.

[ChumpDumper]

He was good enough to get drafted at the top of the second round and was good enough to get picked up a second time after Rick Carlisle made "the hardest cut of his life"He also cleared waivers and didn't exactly set the D-League on fire.
if the Spurs get rid of him, I guarantee he doesn't last more than 10 days w/o a contract.Same with Atkins. Who would help this team win this year? Sure I wouldn't be crazy about letting White go, but this is a no brainer.

[ChumpDumper]

A little. Julius Hodge just got unceremoniously waived, so I'd say White has a grace period of a year before he reaches that point.Not really, the only thing that kept Hodge in the league that long was a guaranteed rookie scale contract.

[Leetonidas]

What time is the deadline?

[Mr. Body]

The 'grace period' I meant in terms of "he's turning the corner soon!" It's surprising how fast some teams are willing to throw away guys who haven't produced -- Utah was avidly shopping Ronnie Brewer, the Clippers were done with Korolev a while ago -- which begs the question, how long does a pick get before he gets thrown away?

Not saying White will turn the corner. IMO he's as fundamentally worthless as Jackie Butler>>> and, Mrs. White and Mrs. Butler, I'm not saying that personally about your sons.

[leemajors]

What time is the deadline?

105 mins ago.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure there's potential, but again -- who would help win this year? White or Atkins? If Atkins wants to join, are you really willing to say "No thanks, James White might be able to play in an NBA game someday."?