View Full Version : Scola shines on Tauīs win vs. Pau Orthez
Bruno
02-28-2007, 08:37 AM
Scola did the same.he became Spanish and kept his Arg,Nationality as well to keep on playing for the Arg Nat.Team,and I think Manu did the same in Italy years back.
You can't compare Scola, Manu... cases with Sanders.
Scola and Manu have got an european passport just because of the quota rule : their teams (and theirs agents) have found a link between them and an european country like some family or because they have stayed enough time in an european country.
Sanders case isn't the same thing. It's the georgian NT who has acted like a BB team and has given Sanders the georgian nationality to improve the level of the georgian NT. Sanders has no link at all with the Georgia and has just agreed to get the georgian nationality for the quota rules.
Now just imagine : a russian billionaire decides that he wants to have a great russian NT and gives to Nash and Duncan the russian nationality (and gives them tons of money to have their agreement). What will be the meaning of olympic games or of FIBA world championships if Russia beat teams like Argentina only because they have tons of money ?
BTW,this happens all the time in Europe because of those stupid quotas(limited forenge players rule)they have over there.
Iīm not sure but TPīs dad did the same I belive.Iīll look it up though.
I wouldn't call those "quotas" stupid.
In fact, they exist in order to try to keep teams from different countries their national or at least european identity, and "force" or "allow" them to play and develop local players.
It's supposed to prevent teams from looking all the same with 5 or 6 US players with no place for developing national players.
I wouldn't say it's completly working but if I take the french example, there are young players that you would never see without the quotas.
ArgSpursFan
02-28-2007, 08:51 AM
You can't compare Scola, Manu... cases with Sanders.
Scola and Manu have got an european passport just because of the quota rule : their teams (and theirs agents) have found a link between them and an european country like some family or because they have stayed enough time in an european country.
Sanders case isn't the same thing. It's the georgian NT who has acted like a BB team and has given Sanders the georgian nationality to improve the level of the georgian NT. Sanders has no link at all with the Georgia and has just agreed to get the georgian nationality for the quota rules.
Now just imagine : a russian billionaire decides that he wants to have a great russian NT and gives to Nash and Duncan the russian nationality (and gives them tons of money to have their agreement). What will be the meaning of olympic games or of FIBA world championships if Russia beat teams like Argentina only because they have tons of money ?
I know theyīre not the same example ,but Thatīs how it works in Europe(I was saying)
Scola and Manu did it for the quota,but other players do it for the money to play for a National team.(cause Sanders was never gonna make it in the US)but it happens in soccer all the time.Countries like Spain or italy give players the Citizenship in order to make them play for their nat.teams and also for the quotas at the domestic cups and Eurocup.
Remember that in Europe All Countries donīt have a 400 M people population(like US)to choose players from.
ArgSpursFan
02-28-2007, 09:01 AM
I wouldn't call those "quotas" stupid.
In fact, they exist in order to try to keep teams from different countries their national or at least european identity, and "force" or "allow" them to play and develop local players.
It's supposed to prevent teams from looking all the same with 5 or 6 US players with no place for developing national players.
I wouldn't say it's completly working but if I take the french example, there are young players that you would never see without the quotas.
I understand your point.but truth is that no team follows that rule,and they kind of cheat,by giving everybody a citizenship.They did it with manu and Scola and many more people who has a spanish or Italian background(italian or spanish parents or grandparents9or if they canīt do that they find another way to brake that rule.(thatīs why I call it stupid)
But i think It would be more fair for the domestic players in Eurpe if private teams and National teams didnīt do that all the time.
I know theyīre not the same example ,but Thatīs how it works in Europe(I was saying)
Scola and Manu did it for the quota,but other players do it for the money to play for a National team.(cause Sanders was never gonna make it in the US)but it happens in soccer all the time.Countries like Spain or italy give players the Citizenship in order to make them play for their nat.teams and also for the quotas at the domestic cups and Eurocup.
Remember that in Europe All Countries donīt have a 400 M people population(like US)to choose players from.
You have to dissociate nations and clubs competitions.
It doesn't happen so often. In fact, the georgian example is very marginal.
Maybe some "small" nation, or bigger eventually, will occasionally do it with a guy who's playing for a long time in the local country and is considered by all as a local and have been "assimilated" as it, but otherwise nations play guys from their countries. That's what makes those meetings exiting. People, fans couldn't accept to see a team who doesn't really represent their country, their history or culture.
that's why I don't think the georgian example would work, at term. It's more of a publicity or a rich man folly.
ArgSpursFan
02-28-2007, 09:27 AM
You have to dissociate nations and clubs competitions.
It doesn't happen so often. In fact, the georgian example is very marginal.
Maybe some "small" nation, or bigger eventually, will occasionally do it with a guy who's playing for a long time in the local country and is considered by all as a local and have been "assimilated" as it, but otherwise nations play guys from their countries. That's what makes those meetings exiting. People, fans couldn't accept to see a team who doesn't really represent their country, their history or culture.
that's why I don't think the georgian example would work, at term. It's more of a publicity or a rich man folly.
I can give you 100s examples in Europe(on many sports),of course most of them happen in private clubs to cheat on the quota rule,and not that many on National teams.But in games like soccer where SuthAmericans are considered like GOLD in europe, happens more tham in basketball.Either in private clubs (for domestics and euro Leagues) and Also on Nationals teams.Itīs
simple,countries in Europe donīt have big populations,and sometimes need some outside help.
RADECK
02-28-2007, 10:46 AM
Bring Scola to Spurs now! Oberto should go to Euroleague!
benefactor
03-23-2009, 01:32 PM
Bump!
Just to show how wrong the old time posters here were about Scola.
Enjoy the reading...
We know that not having Scola sucks. There is no need to bump every thread ever made about him.
urunobili
03-23-2009, 01:37 PM
The_Professor = ArgSpurFan
Ariel
03-23-2009, 02:54 PM
The_Professor = ArgSpurFan
:lol
No offense... but it took you this long to come to that realization? It became obvious to me the first time I read a post of his, with his worn out agenda and his mangled English. It reeked ArgSpursFan all over, and the stench just wouldn't go away. It's both he and his pal whottt that are responsible for this never ending Scola fixation, and until they get a life (yeah, right, like that's going to happen) we're doomed to Scola-limbo.
Agloco
03-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Bump!
Just to show how wrong the old time posters here were about Scola.
Enjoy the reading...
Man, fuck this bullshit.....
People bumping Scola threads need pinking in a bad way. :bang
Marcus Bryant
03-23-2009, 06:33 PM
I'm just glad the Spurs won the 2008 Luxury Tax Championship.
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